Timwi wrote: Yes, but isn't that all the more reason to assume that we won't de-admin two long-time trusted contributors just to save one contributor whom we don't even know? I just don't get why so many newbies instantly think that they're the most valuable Wikipedian ever born and that established admins must leave to make room for them.
I don't believe I ever expressed or implied that I was the most valuable wikipedian ever born, nor that everything will fall apart as a result of my departure. But I would submit that the entire enterprise depends on people like me, and that it's not a good idea to piss us off unnecessarily.
As for being a newbie, I have 2400 edits under my belt - a tenth of yours but still respectable, if I may say so myself. I'll admit it was the first time I was ever blocked, so in that sense I am new to the experience. It would have taken you a couple of minutes to find out who I was and what I'd done, so don't complain that you don't know me.
I do think that complaints against admins should be taken seriously. Nobody should be de-admined because of one editor's grievances, but if there's a pattern of bad and borderline abusive behavior, action should be taken.
Leif Knutsen ([email protected]) [050511 06:00]:
I do think that complaints against admins should be taken seriously. Nobody should be de-admined because of one editor's grievances, but if there's a pattern of bad and borderline abusive behavior, action should be taken.
There are in fact procedures suited to this, e.g. WP:AN/I discussion, and if nothing else works then arbitration. (And the AC does deal with complaints against admins, talk from some non-admins notwithstanding.)
What gets me, though, is with your supposed experience, that you think the three-revert rule doesn't apply to you, and that it somehow has become a five-revert rule.
Do please reread [[WP:3RR]], particularly the bit which points out: "Note that historically, public denunciation of the blocking admin has not tended to gain sympathy." Think about why that might be the case.
- d.