Property talk:P3792

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rate of fire
the frequency at which a specific weapon can fire or launch its projectiles

Description	the frequency at which a specific weapon can fire or launch its projectiles
Represents	rate of fire (Q753454)
Data type	Quantity
Template parameter	|rate= at en:Template:Infobox Weapon
Domain	weapon (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed values	According to this template: number According to statements in the property: 0 ≤ 𝓧 ≤ 1,000,000 When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed units	According to this template: rpm According to statements in the property: rounds per minute (Q38623562) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Example	M198 (Q1042260) → 4 rounds per minute AK-47 (Q37116) → 600 rounds per minute
Robot and gadget jobs	probably
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Minimum and maximum Items with highest numeric value Items with lowest numeric value Database reports/Constraint violations/P3792 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 27 Main statement 25 92.6% of uses Qualifier 2 7.4% of uses

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Range from “0” to “1000000”: values should be in the range from “0” to “1000000”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3792#Range

Units: “rounds per minute (Q38623562)”: value unit must be one of listed. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3792#Units, hourly updated report

Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3792#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Use this property for camera items

@Pigsonthewing, GZWDer, Dhx1: I assume that this property was created to inform "shoot frequency" in weapons items. However, "(maximun) shoot frequency" is also present as shutter characteristic for photographic cameras.

As shutter frequency for camera doesn't exist as a property and the present P3792 is only used in 21 items, my suggestion is to use this P3792 to show also "shoot rate for cameras".

As a example I use it in Canon EOS 850D (Q93428008).

Then, we must change domain to weapon (Q728) & camera (Q15328), including frame rate (Q119565) as a valid unit and, maybe, adjust some other constraints.

We should adjust the property name to some more "cross-topic", for instance "shooting rate" instead of "rate of fire", because cameras shoot, but not fire.

If there are no rejections, I assume it's OK and I'll change in 10 days, Thanks. Amadalvarez (talk) 17:55, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

This may be awkward in some other language. A new property is probably needed. GZWDer (talk) 17:58, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

I don't believe this happens. In catalan we "make pictures", but everybody understand "shoot the camera". Anyway.

Ask for a new property is the easy way, but it's a pity to have this one almost unused. With only 21 items since 2017, may be it worth to reuse 100% for cameras and forget the presents uses. Thanks for your opinion. Amadalvarez (talk) 20:39, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

 Oppose reuse of this property. This property is the rate at which an object is emitted by another object. Taking a photo on a camera is a sampling rate (Q333746) or how often electromagnetic radiation received by an object is measured. I suggest a new property for sampling rate (Q333746), and this new property would have many uses outside of just photography. Dhx1 (talk) 14:31, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, @Dhx1 for this good explanation. I'll open a proposal for a property oriented to a "camera shooting rate". Could you help me to transform the basic version in an multi-uses property ?. I'll ping you when I prepare. Thanks, Amadalvarez (talk) 15:53, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

@Dhx1 I appreciate if you may complement the description of Wikidata:Property proposal/frame rate. I asked for photo & video camera, but also to be valid for sampling (Q210868). However, I've not enough knowdledge on this topic. Thanks, Amadalvarez (talk) 16:35, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

 Done, see sampling rate (P11413). Thanks to @Dhx1 @GZWDer. Amadalvarez (talk) 06:43, 31 December 2022 (UTC)