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Non-admin closure of RfDs
[change source]We don't really do that here (see this discussion), so please don't. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 16:40, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) - Hi @Auntof6, Just curious do you have any examples of problematic RFD closures ?,
- If you're referring to Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2024/Template:Hospitals in State of Palesitne and Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2024/Alireza-Jadidi then yourself and the other admin didn't close it and I wouldn't say these were problematic ?, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 18:16, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't remember every case, so I can't point to any that were problematic. However, that's not the point. The point is that we decided not to have them here. -- Auntof6 (talk) 03:30, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Davey2010: Sorry, forgot to ping you. -- Auntof6 (talk) 03:30, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Auntof6, So if you don't have examples then why this message ?, Cleaning up after admins I wouldn't was in the purview of that discussion - If Cactus didn't close it then who would and when ?, One closure was 5 hours later and the other was 12 hours later ..... So I don't see where the problem is?, If they were closing discussions as keep/snow keep then sure you'd have a point/arguement to make ... but they don't ...., Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 07:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Davey2010: We didn't decide not to have non-admin closures when they're problematic. We decided not to have them at all. So in that sense I guess they're all problematic.
- I don't see this as "cleaning up after admins" (passive aggressive much?). On the one for hospitals in Palestine, I specifically said I wasn't closing it and another admin would need to do it. If Cactus didn't close it, an admin eventually would. I know people don't like it when RfDs stay open past their date, or after an action has already been taken, but in cases like the ones you list it makes no difference exactly when it gets closed -- it's not like a bad page stayed on existence any longer.
- So I've said all I have to say on this. @Cactusisme: please don't close any more, for any reason, no matter what the situation is. @Davey2010: If you want to re-revisit non-admin closures, please do so as a general discussion. -- Auntof6 (talk) 08:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Auntof6 I agree we did however the community clearly expected more from the admins in terms of closing the discussions,
- I don't see how that's passive aggressive - someone's taking the time of their day to clean up the mess an admin left behind which they don't have to do - if admins closed RFDs after then this would be a non-issue, I appreciate that but leaving the RFD open invites people to comment when the article has already been deleted so in that respect I would say there is some urgency in closing them,
- Regarding the hospital RFD; Why would you nominate the template for deletion and then QD it after anyway? (the RFD was open by yourself so imho you should've left the deletion to another admin - was there any urgency here?, also the RFD should trump the authors wishes anyway),
@Cactusisme continue as you are.Happy editing all, –Davey2010Talk 08:23, 13 September 2024 (UTC)- I don't get it now, who should I listen to? Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 11:30, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Me because there's literally no point in leaving RFDs open when the article has already been deleted. You're not closing keep RFDs or redirect rfds etc etc,
closing RFDs where the article has been deleted is fine so carry on my friend, If Auntof6 has a problem they can go to Simple Talk and either ask for clarification or start a proposal on the matter,Have a great day Cactus, Many thanks, Warm Regards, –Davey2010Talk 13:36, 13 September 2024 (UTC)- @Davey2010 Thanks Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 23:06, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just noting for historical purposes that I've struck parts of my replies above as per this thread initiated by Cactus whom apparently misunderstood my reply above, Consensus was sought and consensus was achieved. –Davey2010Talk 13:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Davey2010 Thanks Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 23:06, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Me because there's literally no point in leaving RFDs open when the article has already been deleted. You're not closing keep RFDs or redirect rfds etc etc,
- I don't get it now, who should I listen to? Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 11:30, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Auntof6, So if you don't have examples then why this message ?, Cleaning up after admins I wouldn't was in the purview of that discussion - If Cactus didn't close it then who would and when ?, One closure was 5 hours later and the other was 12 hours later ..... So I don't see where the problem is?, If they were closing discussions as keep/snow keep then sure you'd have a point/arguement to make ... but they don't ...., Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 07:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
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[change source]- Thanks!!! Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 08:14, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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For your good contributions and your hard work! And you are always being in the DYK! Highway Helper (talk) 23:49, 17 September 2024 (UTC) |
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[change source]Hey, I got the new right on main wiki [6]. Xegma(talk) 04:51, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Congrats!!! Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 07:43, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Make good use of the role!! Cactus🌵 spiky ouch 07:52, 18 September 2024 (UTC)