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== Jon DeVries ==

Q104346704 (duplicate: Q111549344) [[User:RIMOLA|RIMOLA]] ([[User talk:RIMOLA|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:54, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

:{{merged}}{{done}} <br> {{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:54, 6 July 2024 (UTC)}}
== Named after ==

we have the property "named after" which ban have the value John Smith. Is there a property to use at John Smith to show "things named after this person"? [[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:31, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

:If such a property would exist you would see it listed at {{P|138}}. We generally avoid inverse properties and I can't think of a good reason to have the property "things named after this person". [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 16:47, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
:Not sure if this would be useful for you but there is a gadget that you can enable in preferences called "relateditems" which "Adds a button to the bottom of item pages to display inverse statements." So would show all things named after the person as well any other properties that link to the item [[User:Piecesofuk|Piecesofuk]] ([[User talk:Piecesofuk|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:01, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
* We have lots: "Father:Child"; "Owner_of (P1830):Owned_by (P127)"; "Occupant (P466):Residence (P551)"; "member of the crew of (P5096):crew member(s) (P1029)" those just ones I can think of without searching. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:32, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
*:The latest proposal was [[Wikidata:Property proposal/Namesakes]]. [[User:GZWDer|GZWDer]] ([[User talk:GZWDer|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:49, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
*:All those examples are properties created early, grandfathered in when the issues with inverses became clearer. [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

== Merging [[Q117208646]] (exercise & fitness product) into [[Q352222]] (exercise equipment)? ==

The former seems to be generated from Google's product taxonomy, but overall seems to refer to the same concept. The subgraphs of both terms are overlapping but not identical, so perhaps a clean-up would be welcome. Any thoughts? [[User:Alcinos|Alcinos]] ([[User talk:Alcinos|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:34, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

:Is there any fitness products that are not exercise equipment? [[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
::Fitbits and other {{Q|16001686}} perhaps. Not my area, but all of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Q117208646 look like they could fit in the other category [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Activity trackers are a good example, one could argue that they are indeed fitness products but not really exercise equipment (although the link to either concept is currently missing in the page you linked). Other elements that could be in the same case: {{Q|Q25104632}}, {{Q|Q116454756}}, perhaps also {{Q|Q110997596}}.
:::In the light of this, here is a refined proposal:
:::- rename {{Q|Q117208646}} to "fitness product", and make {{Q|Q352222}} a subclass of it
:::- move all current sub-classes of {{Q|Q117208646}} to be sub-classes of {{Q|Q352222}} (as {{U|Vicarage}} noted, currently all of them seem to be appropriate sub-classes
:::- add links for the remaining "fitness products" that are not "exercise equipment", such as activity tracker and the other listed above
:::How does that sound? [[User:Alcinos|Alcinos]] ([[User talk:Alcinos|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Other proposed "fitness products" that are not "exercise equipment":
::::- {{Q|Q925303}} although that one is currently listed as an exercise equipment, not sure if I agree
::::- {{Q|Q8054336}} (perhaps it would be nice to have a "workout clothes" class? I can't seem to find one currently) [[User:Alcinos|Alcinos]] ([[User talk:Alcinos|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{Q|645292}} includes exercise in description [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:37, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::It may be too broad to be a subclass of "fitness product". Eg {{Q|Q2623418}} is a sportswear but likely wouldn't be a good (indirect) subclass of "fitness product" [[User:Alcinos|Alcinos]] ([[User talk:Alcinos|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:09, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

== Bogus disease English aliases prefixed with "obsolete" - cleanup needed ==

A large number (thousands?) of pages for diseases and classes of diseases currently have bogus aliases in English "obsolete X", where X is usually the main English label. For example, {{Q|Q134003}} has the alias "obsolete hemophilia". Likewise, {{Q|Q157008}} has alias "obsolete rinderpest" (though in a sense it actually is obsolete!). Some have variations, e.g. {{Q|Q1996053}} has alias "obsolete relapsing pancreatitis".

These seem to have been added by a bot trying to import an external taxonomy in 2020. Example of a bad revision: https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q194435&oldid=1313119769

How should these be cleaned up? Can a bulk query be used to find them all?

[[Special:Contributions/73.223.72.200|73.223.72.200]] 05:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
== Wikidata weekly summary #634 ==

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''' Discussions '''
* New requests for permissions/Bot:
** [[d:Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/DifoolBot_4|DifoolBot 4]] Task(s) - Split single references containing multiple reference URLs into multiple references.
** [[d:Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/Bot_Bozze|Bot Bozze]] Task(s) - Add sitelinks to itwiki draft articles after they've been moved to the main namespace.
* New request for comments: [[d:Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Spelling_convention_for_labels_and_descriptions_in_English|Spelling convention for labels and descriptions in English]] - RfC started 2024-06-25. This RfC requests feedback and input for finding consistency in spelling convention as English has multiple regional variations.

''' [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Events|Events]] '''
* Past: The [[d:Wikidata:Events/Lexicodays 2024|Lexicodays 2024]] was an online event designed to offer a discussion space for the Wikidata community about Lexicographical Data. An archive of some of the slides and session recordings are here [[c:Category:Lexicodays 2024]]. More will be added as they become available.
* Upcoming:
** The next [[d:Wikidata:Events#Office_hours|Wikidata+Wikibase office hours]] will take place on Wednesday, 16:00 UTC on Wednesday, 10th July 2024 (18:00 Berlin time) in the [https://t.me/joinchat/IeCRo0j5Uag1qR4Tk8Ftsg Wikidata Telegram group]. ''The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.''
** [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/GZRRMNW6B75FMBR7HYSAJZGCMQQCCIUP/ Talk to the Search Platform / Query Service Team—July 3, 2024]
** Botany-focused Wikidata online workshop online as part of the #IBC2024. Date: Tuesday 9th July at 9pm NZST (GMT+12) / 11 am central Europe. [https://wikis.world/@siobhan_leachman@mastodon.nz/112691029608457323 Register here]!

''' Press, articles, blog posts, videos '''
* Blogs
** [https://www.bobdc.com/blog/wikidataaudio/ Querying for audio on Wikidata] - This blog post discusses using SPARQL queries on Wikidata to find audio recordings, focusing on musical compositions and their associated genres.
** [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/06/10/stories-from-the-anti-disinformation-repository-why-wikimedia-is-an-antidote-to-disinformation/ Stories from the anti-disinformation repository: Why Wikimedia is an antidote to disinformation] - The blog post highlights how Wikidata, as a central storage repository, plays a crucial role in countering disinformation by providing reliable, structured data for Wikimedia projects and beyond.
** [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/06/30/ld42023-vi-imagining-a-wikidata-future-for-librarians-together/ Diff Blog: Imagining a Wikidata future for librarians together] - the sixth and final blog post from the LD42023 conference.  Silvia Gutiérrez (WMF) and Giovanna Fontenelle (WMF) document the results of the collaborative session on building a bridge between the Library-Wikidata community and WMF.
** [https://www.census.de/blog/census-ids-are-now-wikidata-external-identifiers/ Census IDs are Now Wikidata External Identifiers]
** [https://www.choice360.org/libtech-insight/library-knowledge-as-linked-data-a-wikidata-approach/ Library Knowledge as Linked Data: A Wikidata Approach]: Contributing to a shared data commons. David Erlandson describes the experiences of using Wikidata for the pilot Program for Cooperative Cataloging to "accelerate the movement towards ubiquitous identifier creation and identity management at the network level".
* Papers
** [https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.17903 Mapping the Past: Geographically Linking an Early 20th Century Swedish Encyclopedia with Wikidata] - This paper describes the extraction of location entries from a prominent Swedish encyclopedia and sheds light on selection and representation of geographic information in the Nordisk Familjebok. By A. Ahlin, A. Myrne & P. Nugues.
** [https://wikiworkshop.org Papers from the just-ended Wiki Workshop 2024]
*** [https://wikiworkshop.org/papers/do-lod-conventions-impede-the-representation-of-diversity-the-case-of-disabled-actors-in-dbpedia-and-wikidata.pdf Do LOD Conventions Impede the Representation of Diversity? The Case of Disabled Actors in DBpedia and Wikidata?]
*** [https://wikiworkshop.org/papers/sparql-for-lis-analytics-exploring-gender-representation-amongst-pcc-wikidata-pilot-participant.pdf SPARQL for LIS Analytics: Exploring Gender Representation amongst PCC Wikidata Pilot Participant]
*** [https://wikiworkshop.org/papers/wikidata-vandalism-detection-with-graph-linguistic-fusion.pdf Wikidata Vandalism Detection with Graph-Linguistic Fusion]
*** Wikidata Quality Toolkit: Entity Schema Generator Demonstration (tool demonstration)
* Videos
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Qbb1yuLkE&pp=ygUId2lraWRhdGE%3D Wikidata Knowledge Graph to Enable Equitable and Validated Generative AI] - Wikimedia Deutschland's Jonathan Fraine and [[d:User:Lydia Pintscher (WMDE)|Lydia Pintscher]] show how Wikidata can be used to provide well-cited information and how semantic search can augment generative AI inference. Presented at the Open Source GenAI & ML Summit.
**[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOqZce65Fgg&pp=ygUId2lraWRhdGE%3D Wikidata Editing LIVE at Lexico Days 2024] - [[d:User:Abbe98|User:Abbe98]] and [[d:User:Ainali|User:JanAinali]] are back for another session of live-editing, focused on lexicographical data, during the Lexico Days 2024 event that took place this last weekend, June 28 - June 30.
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2PHkK6jEEA Get more out of Wikidata with Resonator] - Rachel Hendrick and Gary Price of LibTech Tools walk through Resonator and point out the best ways to use it. Resonator is available on [https://reasonator.toolforge.org/ ToolForge].
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjGNWM_9Y4M Knowledge Integrity: Reliability- Wikidata Vandalism Detection with Graph Linguistic Fusion] - [[m:User:Diego_(WMF)|Diego (WMF)]] and Mykola Trokhmovych showcase their work on building a model to help Wikidata editors identify edits that require patrolling, as part of the [[https://wikiworkshop.org/ Wiki Workshop 2024].
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF-xy7KL_ek Inclusion of Communities: Using Wikibase to Leverage Community Sourced Data Initiatives] - Erin Yunes talks about their work in using Wikibase Cloud as part of the Compel project (COmputer Music Preservation Electronic Library).
** (es) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7Nw0xPT1tw ¿Cómo fortalecer el dominio público con Wikidata?] - This Wikitools Workshop hosted by Jorge Gemetto is on [https://paulina.toolforge.org/ Paulina], a tool for exploring and accessing public domain information on authors and their works.

''' Tool of the week '''
* [https://www.loom.com/share/2fab1acb8abf404da8b03a24d4d4d473?sid=6ad654de-486d-44c3-9ae9-8193792720f9&t2 Automatic Structuring of text for Wikidata] - [[d:User:BrokenSegue|User:BrokenSegue]] introduces their new tool.
* [[d:User:Zvpunry/CreateNewItem|User:Zvpunry/CreateNewItem]] - This is a User script to easily add a new Item while editing a Statement and noticing that the desired Item is missing.

''' Other Noteworthy Stuff '''
* The second iteration of the [[d:Wikidata:Open Online Course|Wikidata:Open Online Course]] has begun. Class will continue until August 11. Whether you're a beginner taking your first steps, an individual in need of a refresher on Wikidata concepts, or a seasoned trainer looking to level up your skills - this course is right for you.

''' Newest [[d:Special:ListProperties|properties]] and [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Property proposal|property proposals]] to review '''

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* Newest General datatypes:
**[[:d:Property:P12795|showrunner]] (<nowiki>person who is responsible for the day-to-day operation of a television show</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12830|music mood]] (<nowiki>qualifier carrying an emotion (mood) relevant to a musical audio recording</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12849|coin edge]] (<nowiki>image or images that show the edge of a coin</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12853|ozone depletion potential]] (<nowiki>relative amount of degradation to the ozone layer relative to CFC-11</nowiki>)
* Newest External identifiers:  [[:d:Property:P12784|Locomotive Yaroslavl HC player ID]], [[:d:Property:P12785|Orthoptera Species File taxon ID (new)]], [[:d:Property:P12786|Flown From the Nest person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12787|Online Swahili - English Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12788|A Dictionary of Plant Sciences ID]], [[:d:Property:P12789|A Dictionary of Zoology ID]], [[:d:Property:P12790|A Dictionary of Contemporary Icelandic ID]], [[:d:Property:P12791|Seret film ID]], [[:d:Property:P12792|Limited Liability Partnership Identification Number]], [[:d:Property:P12793|Paleobiology database reference ID]], [[:d:Property:P12794|PNG School Code]], [[:d:Property:P12796|Téarma ID]], [[:d:Property:P12797|IMAIOS entity ID]], [[:d:Property:P12798|Naturalis Repository ID]], [[:d:Property:P12799|English-Spanish Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12800|Vikidia article ID]], [[:d:Property:P12801|thisisbasketball.be player ID]], [[:d:Property:P12802|poblesdecatalunya.cat ID]], [[:d:Property:P12803|Oqaasersiorfik ID]], [[:d:Property:P12804|MNAHA person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12805|Greenlandic-English Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12806|Te Aka Māori Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12807|Tropicos person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12808|He Pātaka Kupu ID]], [[:d:Property:P12809|vehicle keeper marking (VKM)]], [[:d:Property:P12810|‎AllGame style ID]], [[:d:Property:P12811|FC Metz player ID]], [[:d:Property:P12812|MoFo ID]], [[:d:Property:P12813|‎itch.io numeric ID]], [[:d:Property:P12814|filmas.lv film ID]], [[:d:Property:P12815|‎filmas.lv person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12816|‎filmas.lv studio ID]], [[:d:Property:P12817|Cockroach Species File taxon ID (new)]], [[:d:Property:P12818|Lygaeoidea Species File taxon ID (new)]], [[:d:Property:P12819|Phasmida Species File taxon ID (new)]], [[:d:Property:P12820|Psocodea Species File taxon ID (new)]], [[:d:Property:P12821|Spanish-English Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12822|Norwegian National Museum producer ID]], [[:d:Property:P12823|‎Burgenwelt ID]], [[:d:Property:P12824|Irish-English Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12825|Tesoro della Lingua Italiana delle Origini ID]], [[:d:Property:P12826|Tommaseo-Bellini Online ID]], [[:d:Property:P12827|danskfodbold.com player ID]], [[:d:Property:P12828|DAKA Danish-Greenlandic Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12831|DAKA Greenlandic-Danish Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12832|‎Canadian Great War Project person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12833|English-Irish Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12834|PMC journal ID]], [[:d:Property:P12835|Census ID]], [[:d:Property:P12836|Douban personage ID]], [[:d:Property:P12837|Avibase person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12838|Brezhoneg21 ID]], [[:d:Property:P12839|European Education Thesaurus ID]], [[:d:Property:P12840|‎Cineuropa distributor ID]], [[:d:Property:P12841|‎Cineuropa production company ID]], [[:d:Property:P12842|OpenCitations Meta ID]], [[:d:Property:P12843|IGN franchise ID]], [[:d:Property:P12844|Federal Reserve Subject Taxonomy ID]], [[:d:Property:P12845|Farhang-i forsī ba rusī ID]], [[:d:Property:P12846|Devri ID]], [[:d:Property:P12847|Cambridge University Press ID]], [[:d:Property:P12848|Canadian Virtual War Memorial ID]], [[:d:Property:P12850|Personnel Records of the First World War ID]], [[:d:Property:P12851|Fowler’s Concise Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12852|NooSFere publisher ID]], [[:d:Property:P12854|Plex person key]], [[:d:Property:P12855|BHMPI OBJ ID]], [[:d:Property:P12856|Index Fungorum person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12857|stiga.trefik.cz player ID]], [[:d:Property:P12858|UNIBO professor ID]], [[:d:Property:P12859|Cineuropa international sales agent ID]], [[:d:Property:P12860|Mapes de Patrimoni Cultural ID]]
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* New General datatypes property proposals to review:
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/number of local branches|number of local branches]] (<nowiki>number of branches of this organization at the lowest (local) level</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/KANAL inventory ID|KANAL inventory ID]] (<nowiki>inventory number of a creative work assigned by KANAL</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Tüik mahalle id|Tüik mahalle id]] (<nowiki>Identifier of neighborhoods <small>({{q|Q17051044}})</small> in Turkey in TÜİK <small>({{q|Q1375058}})</small> database</nowiki>)
* New External identifier property proposals to review: [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: English-French ID|Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: English-French ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Biodiversity Information System for Europe ID|Biodiversity Information System for Europe ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Elonet company ID|Elonet company ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Numista issuer ID|Numista issuer ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Overcast episode ID|Overcast episode ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Metamath statement label|Metamath statement label]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: English-German ID|Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: English-German ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: English-Italian ID|Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: English-Italian ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Il Nuovo DOP ID|Il Nuovo DOP ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/FEI horse ID|FEI horse ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Google Play author ID|Google Play author ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/identifiant d'une personne sur Archelec|identifiant d'une personne sur Archelec]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Standard Ebooks ID|Standard Ebooks ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Lojas com História ID|Lojas com História ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/RGALI person ID|RGALI person ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/RGALI organization ID|RGALI organization ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Hebrew Academy term ID|Hebrew Academy term ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/milononline.net entry ID|milononline.net entry ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/KANAL identifier|KANAL identifier]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/LAGL author ID|LAGL author ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Alle Burgen|Alle Burgen]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/FC Krasnodar player id|FC Krasnodar player id]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: Italian-English ID|Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: Italian-English ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: German-English ID|Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: German-English ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: French-English ID|Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: French-English ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Manhom Arabic Profile ID|Manhom Arabic Profile ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/GOArt databas|GOArt databas]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/ArchWiki article|ArchWiki article]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Star Wars.com|Star Wars.com]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/identifikátor filmu ve Filmové databázi (FDb)|identifikátor filmu ve Filmové databázi (FDb)]]
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You can comment on [[d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Overview|all open property proposals]]!

''' Did you know? '''
* Query examples:
** [https://w.wiki/AVZ8 Number of people who are both politicians and musicians by political spectrum] ([https://wikis.world/@moebeus@mastodon.online/112684088394297452 source])
** [https://w.wiki/AJ5u Lexeme coverage of Indonesian languages]
** [https://w.wiki/AVCS UK MPs and their office start/end years] ([https://x.com/generalising/status/1805719787953111151 source])
* Newest [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:WikiProjects|WikiProjects]]: [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject_Inuktitut|Inuktitut]] - This is the space to organize work to assure that the sum of all knowledge and the supporting infrastructure for necessary services are available in Inuktitut (ᐃᓄᒃᑎᑐᑦ, Inuktitut).
* Newest [[d:Wikidata:Database reports|database reports]]: [[d:User:Ivan_A._Krestinin/To_merge|Merge candidates based on same pattern]]
* [[d:Wikidata:Showcase items|Showcase Items]]: [[d:Q761735|Montblanc (Q761735)]] - town in the province of Tarragona, Catalonia
* [[d:Wikidata:Showcase lexemes|Showcase Lexemes]]: [[d:Lexeme:L725113|gbuɣi (L725113)]] - Dagbanli verb, translates to "vomiting" and "sprouting"

''' Development '''
* EntitySchemas:
** We worked around an issue where EntitySchema pages were no longer considered “content” and had become unsearchable ([[phab:T368010]])
** We prepared for the release of the new datatype on July 2nd.
* mul language code: We are working on the last remaining blocker before rolling out the first stage to Wikidata ([[phab:T362917]])
* Wikibase REST API: We are continuing to rework API errors ([[phab:T366911]], [[phab:T366239]])

[[phab:maniphest/query/4RotIcw5oINo/#R|You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here]]. If you want to help, you can also have a look at [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/71/query/zfiRgTnZF7zu/?filter=zfiRgTnZF7zu&order=priority the tasks needing a volunteer].

''' Weekly Tasks '''
* Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed [[d:Wikidata:Status_updates/Next#Newest_properties_and_property_proposals_to_review|above]].
* Contribute to the showcase Item and Lexeme [[d:Wikidata:Status_updates/Next#Did_you_know?|above]].
* Participate in [https://dicare.toolforge.org/lexemes/challenge.php this week's Lexeme challenge]:
* Govdirectory weekly focus country: [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject Govdirectory/Argentina|Argentina]]
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== The wiki is now in read-only mode ==

"Failed to save due to an error." and "The wiki is now in read-only mode." pop up. Why? [[User:Eurohunter|Eurohunter]] ([[User talk:Eurohunter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

:Apparently there were some [https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/TUJ0V-0Zk/wikidata-alerts?orgId=1&from=1719892800000&to=1719900000000&viewPanel=12 brief spikes] of [[mw:replication lag|replication lag]] around the time you posted that message; when this happens, the wiki may automatically put itself into read-only mode temporarily until the database has caught up again. [[User:Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)|Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)]] ([[User talk:Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

== Implementing Orphanet Data into Wikipedia ==

Orphanet is an important reference within wikipedia with over 1000 refs. Recently, they changed their data structure, thus the former {{Orphaned}} does no longer work. I got a file with relevant changes I would like to be implemented. [[User:Zieger M|Zieger M]] ([[User talk:Zieger M|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Zieger M|Zieger M]] Hi, can you share the file publicly, so that I (or others) can have a look and decide if we're able to implement the change? [[User:Vojtěch Dostál|Vojtěch Dostál]] ([[User talk:Vojtěch Dostál|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, how can I share it? [[User:Zieger M|Zieger M]] ([[User talk:Zieger M|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:44, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Zieger M|Zieger M]] If it is a table file, maybe you can upload somewhere and share a link? Ideally, with properly labelled columns so that we understand what changes to what :-). [[User:Vojtěch Dostál|Vojtěch Dostál]] ([[User talk:Vojtěch Dostál|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::::"upload somewhere"? Never done, don't know where to. Sorry [[User:Zieger M|Zieger M]] ([[User talk:Zieger M|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::https://www.mediafire.com/file/uimhjnvs9g4uf49/Linkliste+Orphanet_Original.xlsx/file [[User:Zieger M|Zieger M]] ([[User talk:Zieger M|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:01, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Zieger M|Zieger M]] Hi, I checked the file and I think I now better understand what you mean. In fact, the change does not have anything to do with Wikidata - you just want [[de:Template:Orphanet]] to properly format its links to Orphanet. I think that you only need to replace the URL string "https://www.orpha.net/consor/cgi-bin/Disease_Search.php?lng=DE&data_id=" at [[:de:Template:Orphanet]] with "https://www.orpha.net/en/disease/detail/". Isn't that right? You can do it locally in Dewiki. [[User:Vojtěch Dostál|Vojtěch Dostál]] ([[User talk:Vojtěch Dostál|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:16, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

== Wikidata Question ==

Hi Wikipedia,
I have two concerns regarding data for Blic, daily newspaper from Serbia.
I have tried entering publication interval and for some reason it does not let me publish it. Also, I have tried editing their social media information and it did not let me. For both of them, it does not let me publish changes.
Can you tell me why ?
<span style="font-family:Century Gothic;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px #999;">[[User:Боки|<span style="color:red;">'''Боки'''</span>]] [[User_talk:Боки|<span style="color:blue;">✉</span>]]</span> 18:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

:What does it say? [[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] it doesnt say anything. 
::Basically, when I try and change it, publish button is blanked so I cant click on it. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px #999;">[[User:Боки|<span style="color:red;">'''Боки'''</span>]] [[User_talk:Боки|<span style="color:blue;">✉</span>]]</span> 18:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:If you enter say "1 week" in the field for publication interval then the check-mark can't be clicked. Unit goes into a separate field. [[User:Infrastruktur|Infrastruktur]] ([[User talk:Infrastruktur|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:03, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

== {{q|28196266}} used for many medicine-related topics on iodine, instead of {{q|1103}} or perhaps another (new) item ==

I noticed that this item is linked not only as an antiseptic but also for many other medical topics. Its description only mentioned "antiseptic" and I've added the prevention and treatment of iodine deficiency, based on its page linked from ''WikiProjectMed.'' The mistake may arise from the fact that it's disambiguated in the English- (and several other) language Wikipedia(s) as "iodine (medical use)". I think all other medical uses (e.g. {{q|13233408}}) should link to either to iodine as an element ({{q|1103}}), or to a new item created for this purpose, but the antiseptic (and possibly the deficiency-preventing) use shouldn't be conflated with the radioactive or other medical means of using it. [[User:Adam78|Adam78]] ([[User talk:Adam78|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Adam78|Adam78]] Is iodine as antiseptic in any way chemically different from the iodine element? If not, all such links should point to {{Q|1103}} and Q28196266 should instead be {{Property|P1269}} of {{Q|1103}} or something of that sort. A similar example is {{Q|Q60097}}. [[User:Vojtěch Dostál|Vojtěch Dostál]] ([[User talk:Vojtěch Dostál|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
== API / Pyton / SPARQL access questions ==

Hi everyone,

please see [[Wikidata:Project chat#Conventions for Knowledge Graph aligning]] for context.


TL;DR, we're looking to check if a wikidata instance exists for ~500 entries we have in our database. We also don't want to overburden the Wikidata API, hence:

What can we do to most efficiently query the wikidata database?


What currently do is:
<syntaxhighlight lang="python">
query = f"""
SELECT ?item ?itemLabel (GROUP_CONCAT(DISTINCT ?altLabel; separator = ", ") AS ?altLabels) 
(SAMPLE(?description) AS ?description) WHERE {{
{selection[select]}
OPTIONAL {{?item skos:altLabel ?altLabel FILTER(LANG(?altLabel) = "en")}}
OPTIONAL {{?item schema:description ?description FILTER(LANG(?description) = "en")}}
SERVICE wikibase:label {{bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en".}}
}}
GROUP BY ?item ?itemLabel
LIMIT {limit}
"""
</syntaxhighlight>
, wherin we limit the results to 20 at most, and select based on:
<syntaxhighlight lang="python">
selection = {
    'label' : f'?item rdfs:label "{label}"@en.',
    'altLabel' : f'?item skos:altLabel "{label}"@en.'
}
</syntaxhighlight>
Then, per label, we check if:

# entries with that label are available (e.g. "STEP file" to [[Q3509055]]
# if these entries do not sum up to our limit (20), then we also check if entries with that label as altLabel exist (e.g. ".stp" to [[Q3509055]]),
# if these entries do not sum up to our limit (20) then we try 1. and 2. again with (if != label):
## label.lower(), so "STEP" -> "step",
## label.capitalize(), so "STEP" -> "Step",
## label.upper(), so "STEP" -> "STEP" -> not done, since == label


Then we store all queries and results so we run no query twice, and can just check our local "copy" for the result.


Given all this, our Question:

# Is there a better way?

Better as in "easier on wikidata / time" as well as "better results", since currently we have about 40% match rate. Likely, many ouf our instances do, in fact, have no match, but others (like [[Q2117885]] "Systems Modeling Language" or "SysML") are currently just not catched. We have seen advise to run some preprocessing on the labels, to lower all wikidata labels in a filter, but that seemed unfathomably taxing on all parties involved. 

There is also the general advice to use a data dump. We have checked [[Wikidata:Database download]] and https://dumps.wikimedia.org/wikidatawiki/entities/, and not found a dump that contains all labels AND is relatively small. The lexemes do not seem to contain all labels, presumably only [[Q111352]] instances. All the aformentioned entries, e.g. .p21 and .stp, are not mentioned therein.


I really appreciate your help, and am open to suggestions, improvements, hints or anything, really :)


Best, [[User:TimBorgNetzWerk|TimBorgNetzWerk]] ([[User talk:TimBorgNetzWerk|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

:Have you considered using a tool like [https://openrefine.org/ OpenRefine] to help reconcile your data with Wikidata's? [[User:M2Ys4U|M2Ys4U]] ([[User talk:M2Ys4U|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
::Haven't heard about it yet (I think), will be looking into it, thanks! [[User:TimBorgNetzWerk|TimBorgNetzWerk]] ([[User talk:TimBorgNetzWerk|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
:::OpenRefine is nice if you intend to import data into Wikidata. Last time I checked the reconciliation it uses yielded less than ideal results. Is this a publicly available graph? If your graph had it's own identifier registered on Wikidata you could use Mix'n'match to do a preliminary matching of the dataset and then let you verify each match manually. Asking for a new identifier can be done at [[WD:PP]].
:::In any case freetext search may be what WDQS is worst at. Unsurprisingly the built-in search does a much better job, see [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:WikibaseCirrusSearch] for Wikidata specific functionality. You won't tax the API as long as you make calls sequentially and support maxlag. There are libraries available that makes this easier. [[User:Infrastruktur|Infrastruktur]] ([[User talk:Infrastruktur|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:36, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

== "agency" property? ==

I'm getting "<nowiki>{{cite journal}}</nowiki>: |author= has generic name (help)" from: 
* <!--CNN Newsource (2021-02-24) "Urban League of Greater Kansas City unveils social justice bus", KMIZ-->{{cite Q|Q126365824|author = CNN Newsource}} 
in [[Wikipedia:Gwendolyn Grant (activist)#References]]. 

In a section on "work with [[template:Cite Q]]?" on the talk page associated with [[Wikipedia:Template:Sfn]], [[Wikipedia:User:ActivelyDisinterested]] said, "CNN News Source is not a valid author name ... . The correct field in this case would be |agency= but [that is not] supported by Wikidata / Cite Q." I've experimented with assigning "CNN Newsource" to different properties, so far without finding one that makes this complaint disappear.

Can someone help me find a property to which to assign "CNN Newsource" ([[Q5013147]]) so this complaint in Wikipedia disappears? 
Thanks, [[User:DavidMCEddy|DavidMCEddy]] ([[User talk:DavidMCEddy|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
== {{Q|21510864}} ==

Why If I add {{P|279}} with for example {{Q|679741}} then {{Q|21510864}} pop up? For example, it pop up at {{Q|1514212}} while it not pop up in {{Q|11925955}}. [[User:Eurohunter|Eurohunter]] ([[User talk:Eurohunter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Eurohunter|Eurohunter]] You have to make sure there is a complete hierarchy of classes. In the example you have given, Q1514212 has class Q679741, but Q679741 needs to have some class too... I suggest Q122131 be added there as P279. [[User:Vojtěch Dostál|Vojtěch Dostál]] ([[User talk:Vojtěch Dostál|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:: {{re|Vojtěch Dostál}} Thanks. [[User:Eurohunter|Eurohunter]] ([[User talk:Eurohunter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:14, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

== We need to put an end to this ==

For months, items like
<div style="column-width:8em;">
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q24441&action=history Q24441]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q31230&action=history Q31230]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q144969&action=history Q144969]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q485010&action=history Q485010]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q651412&action=history Q651412]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2029443&action=history Q2029443]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4082991&action=history Q4082991]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4114835&action=history Q4114835]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4132179&action=history Q4132179]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4278515&action=history Q4278515]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4290856&action=history Q4290856]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4290856&action=history Q4290856]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4315257&action=history Q4315257]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4337088&action=history Q4337088]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4455859&action=history Q4455859]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4505404&action=history Q4505404]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4506070&action=history Q4506070]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4506079&action=history Q4506079]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q4537487&action=history Q4537487]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q13642333&action=history Q13642333]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q13642335&action=history Q13642335]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q15916991&action=history Q15916991]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q16640677&action=history Q16640677]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q18771937&action=history Q18771937]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q60849965&action=history Q60849965]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q86661703&action=history Q86661703]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q109489638&action=history Q109489638]
* [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q111302210&action=history Q111302210]
</div>
and likely more others have been target of constant edit warring, having English and Russian description changed back and forth by various IP addresses and few-edits-accounts. Could anyone have a look, say what is going on and suggest how administrators should deal with it? --[[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:57, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

:Chechen-Ingush wars. All items should be protected at a random version. May be we should block the warriors as well. [[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
::Though may be things like [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q24441&diff=prev&oldid=2196311360 this] would help before protection, but then I need to go manually through the list. I can do it, but very slowly. [[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:44, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
::I see no good reason to protect them to be only edited by admins. Semiprotections should be good enough. [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 21:09, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

== set confirm user ==

i contribute in wp/fa with 1300 edits.
in wiki data i cant change semi protected pages, so im gonna ask you for give me this level. thank you [[User:میسانو|میسانو]] ([[User talk:میسانو|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

:{{done}} [[User:Infrastruktur|Infrastruktur]] ([[User talk:Infrastruktur|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:14, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
{{section resolved|1=[[User:Infrastruktur|Infrastruktur]] ([[User talk:Infrastruktur|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:14, 13 July 2024 (UTC)}}

:no problem. first i didn't know where i can issue that [[User:میسانو|میسانو]] ([[User talk:میسانو|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
== constraint on instance or subclass of ==

{{P|11395}} has constraint

 subject type constraint:
 class - type of award 
 relation - instance or subclass of

So why is {{Q|906455}} which is a {{P|279}} of {{Q|107581015}}, an {{P|31}} of {{Q|107467117}} OK

While {{Q|8004646}} which is an {{P|31}} of {{Q|378427}}, an {{P|31}} of {{Q|107467117}} reports a violation? [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
: Because {{Q|8004646}} is currently neither an instance nor a subclass of {{Q|107467117}} ({{P|P31}} is not transitive and neither {{Q|378427}} nor {{Q|906455}} are subclasses of {{Q|107467117}}) while {{Q|906455}} is a direct instance of {{Q|107467117}}. It seems to me that the subject type of {{P|P11395}} should be instance or subclass of {{Q|Q107581015}}, not {{Q|107467117}}.  - [[User:Valentina.Anitnelav|Valentina.Anitnelav]] ([[User talk:Valentina.Anitnelav|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
::Ah, I was expecting {{P|31}} to be transitive in this check. Changing {{P|11395}} as you suggest solves my problem. Thanks. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

== Removing unreferenced religions and ethnicities ==

{{Ping|Nikkimaria}} Was a decision made to remove all unreferenced religions and ethnicities at some point? If so I missed that discussion. If the decision was made they should be deleted by a bot, not one-by-one by any individual. Doing it that way will lead to selection bias. I noticed some disappearing and traced the deletions to Special:Contributions/Nikkimaria [[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:21, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

:These are mostly reverts of a particular problematic IP editor who pops up periodically in [[Special:AbuseFilter/95]]. If there is a preference to revert such edits by bot I have no objection. [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:37, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
:For ethinicities, removal was approved for unreferenced statements and deprecation for Wikipedia-referenced statements, see  [[Wikidata:Bot_requests/Archive/2021/10#request_to_depreciated_ethnic_group_only_sourced_with_P143_%282021-10-23%29]]. At the time I think it was also notified or discussed on Project chat. [[User:Vojtěch Dostál|Vojtěch Dostál]] ([[User talk:Vojtěch Dostál|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
* I am all for deprecating the info until referenced, this is deleting the info. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:11, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

== Voting to ratify the Wikimedia Movement Charter is ending soon ==

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Hello everyone,

This is a kind reminder that the voting period to ratify the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Charter|Wikimedia Movement Charter]] will be closed on '''July 9, 2024''', at '''23:59 UTC'''.

If you have not voted yet, please vote [[m:Special:SecurePoll/vote/398|on SecurePoll]]. 

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== Is there something like a Wikidata [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Privacy_of_personal_information_and_using_primary_sources WP:DOB]? ==

Specifically [https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5364577 Q5364577], which seems to be ultimately sourced to imdb. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:43, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

:Yes - see [[Wikidata:BLP]]. [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
:Thankfully, Wikidata can structure these claims better than a textually-based Wikipedia project can.
:For example, references can be attached directly to the DOB claim; these will unambiguously support that particular claim, and no others.
:Also, multiple claims can be attached to one person's bio. Therefore if there is dispute, ambiguity, or competing claims for a DOB, all can be included!
:Deprecation and preference values can be assigned. Therefore, if a DOB claim is found to be incorrect or invalid, it can be deprecated, colored red, and notations can be made about those reasons. Likewise, if a DOB is found to be valid above the others, it can be marked "preferred".
:In this way we can better document any controversy, weak/strong sourcing issues, or disputes, not only about a date of birth but about any germane fact for a Wikidata item. It's a shame that enwiki still doesn't want to play nice and draw from Wikidata's growing pool of structured data such as this, because it's way easier to document and track such disputes here in one centralised location, than in parallel, on dozens or hundreds of language-specific wikis, with mazes of twisty little policies and guidelines, all different. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:36, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

== Wikidata weekly summary #635 ==

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''' [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Events|Events]] '''
* Upcoming:
** The next [[d:Wikidata:Events#Office_hours|Wikidata+Wikibase office hours]] will take place on Wednesday, 16:00 UTC on Wednesday, 10th July 2024 (18:00 Berlin time) in the [https://t.me/joinchat/IeCRo0j5Uag1qR4Tk8Ftsg Wikidata Telegram group]. ''The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.''
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''' Tool of the week '''
* [[d:User:Teester/EntityShape.js|User:Teester/EntityShape.js]] - a userscript that adds an input box to a Wikidata page wherein you can enter an EntitySchema (such as [[d:Entityschema:E10|E10]]). When you click "Check", checks whether each statement and property conforms to the schema.  It then displays a summary at the top of the Item for each property indicating whether they conform or not. It also adds a badge to each statement and each property on the page indicating whether they conform or not.

''' Other Noteworthy Stuff '''
* Wikidata teams' development goals for the third quarter of 2024 have been updated: [[d:Wikidata:Development plan|Wikidata:Development plan]]

''' Newest [[d:Special:ListProperties|properties]] and [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Property proposal|property proposals]] to review '''

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* Newest General datatypes:
**[[:d:Property:P12830|music mood]] (<nowiki>qualifier carrying an emotion (mood) relevant to a musical audio recording</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12849|coin edge]] (<nowiki>image or images that show the edge of a coin</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12853|ozone depletion potential]] (<nowiki>relative amount of degradation to the ozone layer relative to CFC-11</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12861|EntitySchema for class]] (<nowiki>schema that members of a class should conform to</nowiki>)
* Newest External identifiers: [[:d:Property:P12798|Naturalis Repository ID]], [[:d:Property:P12799|English-Spanish Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12800|Vikidia article ID]], [[:d:Property:P12801|thisisbasketball.be player ID]], [[:d:Property:P12802|poblesdecatalunya.cat ID]], [[:d:Property:P12803|Oqaasersiorfik ID]], [[:d:Property:P12804|MNAHA person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12805|Greenlandic-English Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12806|Te Aka Māori Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12807|Tropicos person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12808|He Pātaka Kupu ID]], [[:d:Property:P12809|vehicle keeper marking (VKM)]], [[:d:Property:P12810|‎AllGame style ID]], [[:d:Property:P12811|FC Metz player ID]], [[:d:Property:P12812|MoFo ID]], [[:d:Property:P12813|‎itch.io numeric ID]], [[:d:Property:P12814|filmas.lv film ID]], [[:d:Property:P12815|‎filmas.lv person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12816|‎filmas.lv studio ID]], [[:d:Property:P12817|Cockroach Species File taxon ID (new)]], [[:d:Property:P12818|Lygaeoidea Species File taxon ID (new)]], [[:d:Property:P12819|Phasmida Species File taxon ID (new)]], [[:d:Property:P12820|Psocodea Species File taxon ID (new)]], [[:d:Property:P12821|Spanish-English Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12822|Norwegian National Museum producer ID]], [[:d:Property:P12823|‎Burgenwelt ID]], [[:d:Property:P12824|Irish-English Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12825|Tesoro della Lingua Italiana delle Origini ID]], [[:d:Property:P12826|Tommaseo-Bellini Online ID]], [[:d:Property:P12827|danskfodbold.com player ID]], [[:d:Property:P12828|DAKA Danish-Greenlandic Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12831|DAKA Greenlandic-Danish Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12832|‎Canadian Great War Project person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12833|English-Irish Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12834|PMC journal ID]], [[:d:Property:P12835|Census ID]], [[:d:Property:P12836|Douban personage ID]], [[:d:Property:P12837|Avibase person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12838|Brezhoneg21 ID]], [[:d:Property:P12839|European Education Thesaurus ID]], [[:d:Property:P12840|‎Cineuropa distributor ID]], [[:d:Property:P12841|‎Cineuropa production company ID]], [[:d:Property:P12842|OpenCitations Meta ID]], [[:d:Property:P12843|IGN franchise ID]], [[:d:Property:P12844|Federal Reserve Subject Taxonomy ID]], [[:d:Property:P12845|Farhang-i forsī ba rusī ID]], [[:d:Property:P12846|Devri ID]], [[:d:Property:P12847|Cambridge University Press ID]], [[:d:Property:P12848|Canadian Virtual War Memorial ID]], [[:d:Property:P12850|Personnel Records of the First World War ID]], [[:d:Property:P12851|Fowler’s Concise Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12852|NooSFere publisher ID]], [[:d:Property:P12854|Plex person key]], [[:d:Property:P12855|BHMPI OBJ ID]], [[:d:Property:P12856|Index Fungorum person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12857|stiga.trefik.cz player ID]], [[:d:Property:P12858|UNIBO professor ID]], [[:d:Property:P12859|Cineuropa international sales agent ID]], [[:d:Property:P12860|Mapes de Patrimoni Cultural ID]], [[:d:Property:P12862|Il Nuovo DOP ID]], [[:d:Property:P12863|RGALI person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12864|RGALI organization ID]], [[:d:Property:P12865|Archelec person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12866|Lojas com História ID]], [[:d:Property:P12867|milononline.net entry ID]], [[:d:Property:P12868|Hebrew Academy term ID]], [[:d:Property:P12869|LAGL author ID]], [[:d:Property:P12870|KANAL ID]], [[:d:Property:P12871|Google Play author ID]], [[:d:Property:P12872|‎Overcast episode ID]], [[:d:Property:P12873|ArchWiki article]], [[:d:Property:P12874|Valencian Library ID]], [[:d:Property:P12875|‎Star Wars.com ID]]
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* New General datatypes property proposals to review:
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/number of local branches|number of local branches]] (<nowiki>number of branches of this organization at the lowest (local) level</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/KANAL inventory ID|KANAL inventory ID]] (<nowiki>inventory number of a creative work assigned by KANAL</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Tüik mahalle id|Tüik mahalle id]] (<nowiki>Identifier of neighborhoods <small>({{q|Q17051044}})</small> in Turkey in TÜİK <small>({{q|Q1375058}})</small> database</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/myfixguide.com|myfixguide.com]] (<nowiki>Photos about how to disassemble hardware</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/date de vote|date de vote]] (<nowiki>vote date, date on which people decided or casted their ballot</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Sandbox-EntitySchema|Sandbox-EntitySchema]] (<nowiki>Sandbox property for value of type "EntitySchema"</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Imperial University of Dorpat student ID|Imperial University of Dorpat student ID]] (<nowiki>matriculation number of a student of the Imperial University of Dorpat</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/indexer|indexer]] (<nowiki>entity responsible for compiling an index of a book, database, website or other forms of media publications in the form of a methodical arrangement of records designed to enable users to locate information quickly. Example: Hazel K. Bell (Q70226489)</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/WorldCyclingStats ID|WorldCyclingStats ID]] (<nowiki>identifier on the website WorldCyclingStats (www.worldcyclingstats.com)</nowiki>)
* New External identifier property proposals to review: [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: English-French ID|Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: English-French ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Biodiversity Information System for Europe ID|Biodiversity Information System for Europe ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Elonet company ID|Elonet company ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Numista issuer ID|Numista issuer ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Metamath statement label|Metamath statement label]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: English-German ID|Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: English-German ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: English-Italian ID|Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: English-Italian ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/FEI horse ID|FEI horse ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Standard Ebooks ID|Standard Ebooks ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Alle Burgen|Alle Burgen]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/FC Krasnodar player id|FC Krasnodar player id]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: Italian-English ID|Pocket Oxford Italian Dictionary: Italian-English ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: German-English ID|Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: German-English ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: French-English ID|Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: French-English ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Manhom Arabic Profile ID|Manhom Arabic Profile ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/GOArt databas|GOArt databas]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/identifikátor filmu ve Filmové databázi (FDb)|identifikátor filmu ve Filmové databázi (FDb)]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/identifikátor osoby ve Filmové databázi (FDb)|identifikátor osoby ve Filmové databázi (FDb)]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/ScienceDirect journal ID|ScienceDirect journal ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Iraqnla Book ID|Iraqnla Book ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/islamway authority ID|islamway authority ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Hermitage Museum artist ID|Hermitage Museum artist ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Coptic Dictionary Online ID|Coptic Dictionary Online ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/autoritateak.eus|autoritateak.eus]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Museum of the Russian Academy of Arts artist ID|Museum of the Russian Academy of Arts artist ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Thinkwiki article|Thinkwiki article]]
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You can comment on [[d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Overview|all open property proposals]]!

''' Did you know? '''
* Query examples:
** [https://w.wiki/AaNJ Cumulative experience of UK MPs on election day (since 1922)] ([https://x.com/generalising/status/1809302517916004518 source])
** [https://w.wiki/AbkU Location of GLAMs with open access policies]
** [https://w.wiki/4pKw Images of biologists by height]
* Newest [[d:Wikidata:Database reports|database reports]]: [[d:User:Pasleim/commonsmerge|User:Pasleim/commonsmerge]] - Merge candidates based on same commons category
* [[d:Wikidata:Showcase items|Showcase Items]]: [[d:Q1496|Ferdinand Magellan (Q1496)]] - Portuguese explorer in the service of Spain
* [[d:Wikidata:Showcase lexemes|Showcase Lexemes]]: [[d:Lexeme:L1083157|bergkant (L1083157)]] - Nynorsk noun, translates to "the top edge of a mountain"

''' Development '''
* EntitySchemas: The new datatype to link to EntitySchemas in statements has been released.
* mul language code: We are preparing the release.

[[phab:maniphest/query/4RotIcw5oINo/#R|You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here]]. If you want to help, you can also have a look at [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/71/query/zfiRgTnZF7zu/?filter=zfiRgTnZF7zu&order=priority the tasks needing a volunteer].

''' Weekly Tasks '''
* Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed [[d:Wikidata:Status_updates/Next#Newest_properties_and_property_proposals_to_review|above]].
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* Participate in [https://dicare.toolforge.org/lexemes/challenge.php this week's Lexeme challenge]:
* Govdirectory weekly focus country: [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject Govdirectory/Armenia|Armenia]]
* Summarize your [[d:Wikidata:Status_updates/Next#Did_you_know?|WikiProject's ongoing activities]] in one or two sentences.
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== Showcase items discussion ==

Editors are invited to join the discussion at {{section link|Wikidata talk:Showcase items#Formalizing the process}}. <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 19:31, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
== Ingest of SEC EDGAR data into Wikidata? ==

I have recently noticed that many company infoboxes on Wikipedia are frequently out of date, even though they draw from Wikidata for many values like yearly results. All of this data is available online through the SEC's EDGAR system, at least for publicly traded companies in the US, so I was wondering whether it would be worthwhile to write a bot that would read SEC data and update Wikidata with it?

[[User:Botlord|Botlord]] ([[User talk:Botlord|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
* {{ping|Botlord}} that sounds like a great idea - if you are proposing to do it yourself, the general procedure is to write the code, test it on a small number of items, and then ask for bot status approval for a bot account to regularly run it on at [[Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot]]. If you are hoping somebody else will do it then [[Wikidata:Bot requests]] is the place to start. [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Botlord|Botlord]]Yes, that would be nice and useful for a lot of infoboxes on various wikis. I think it would definitely be possible to do the mapping using XBRL. Feel free to discuss any kind of details at [[Wikidata talk:WikiProject Companies]]. [[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]] ([[User talk:Jklamo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

== Conventions for Knowledge Graph aligning ==

Dear Wikidata Community,

We're looking to build a Aerospace Engineering Knowledge Graph, and linking (all) entries to wikidata. For some, like [[Q3319996]], that's easy, for others like conceptual modelling not so much. Others, like CPACS, are not even in Wikidata yet, or Wikipedia for that matter. Given that context, I have the following cases and questions:

# If a perfect match exists, no questions.
# If a match exists that does look correct, but seems to be lacking relations, should we populate this entry as we see fit? (assumed answer: yes, see [[:en:WP:BOLD]])
# If a match exists that does look somewhat corect, but does not have the right type, should we split it into two different entities?
## e.g. [[Q377960]] not being a [[Q3249551]], but an [[Q166142]] - should we create a new process instance with the same label?
## what about instances such as [[Q2623243]], which specifically lists conceptual model (an object) and conceptual modelling (a process)? Does the existence of this entry mean differentiation is not desired?
# If no match exists, I assume we should create one. I've taken a look at [[Wikidata:Notability]]:
## "It refers to an instance of a clearly identifiable conceptual or material entity that can be described using serious and publicly available references."
### All instances would fall under this category, since all are derived from a systematic literature review and we can link to the respective papers where they are discussed.
## All our instances would be instances of [[Q10843872]], [[Q7397]], [[Q235557]] or similar. Examples: https://github.com/DLR-SC/tixi, https://dlr-sl.github.io/cpacs-website/

Furthermore, I have some SPARQL / Database questions, which I'll add to a separate topic to not overflow this one.

Thanks, [[User:TimBorgNetzWerk|TimBorgNetzWerk]] ([[User talk:TimBorgNetzWerk|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:00, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

:2. --> yes, be warry of the distinction between {{P|P31}} and {{P|P279}}. Make sure that the relations you add respect the transitivity rule.
:3. Probably hard to give a general answer, it's likely a case-by-case basis. For the examples you gave
: - {{Q|Q377960}} is a bit of a weird case because after a quick skim it appears that the linked wikipedia pages themselves don't have the same type: the English seems to talk about a {{Q|Q3249551}} while the French one seems to be talking about software? If you decide to split the two, perhaps the wiki pages should be re-linked as well.
: - On {{Q|Q2623243}} I don't know the original author's intent here, but will point out that the corresponding edit seems to have been partially automated, so there is a chance that mistakes slipped through. The same author added "Conceptual models" as an alias, which is spurious on the sole basis that it shouldn't be capitalized. In any case, I think it makes sense to create an entry for "conceptual modeling", with appropriate cross-links such as {{P|P1269}}.
:Overall, it's possible that there were no curators with a deep expertise and a good overall view of this part of the graph, hence possible inconsistencies. Improvements welcome!
:4. I would say yes, especially if you link the references.
:Lastly I am not sure if your Aerospace Engineering Knowledge Graph will be publicly available, but if it is perhaps you could create an identifiers to link to it? Although I must say I'm not sure what is the process to create a new identifier, nor what the criterion are to propose a new one. [[User:Alcinos|Alcinos]] ([[User talk:Alcinos|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

== The Community Wishlist is reopening July 15, 2024 ==

'''Here’s what to expect, and how to prepare.'''

Hello everyone, the new Community Wishlist (formerly Community Wishlist Survey) opens on 15 July for piloting. I will jump straight into an FAQ to help with some questions you may have:

'''Q:''' How long do I have to submit wishes?

'''A:''' As part of the changes, Wishlist will remain open. There is no deadline for wish submission.

'''Q:''' What is this ‘Focus Area’ thing?

'''A:''' The Foundation will identify patterns with wishes that share a collective problem and group them into areas known as ‘[[metawiki:Community_Wishlist_Survey/Future_Of_The_Wishlist/Preview_of_the_New_Wishlist#Introducing_%E2%80%9CFocus_Areas%E2%80%9D|Focus Areas’]]. '''The grouping of wishes will begin in August 2024.'''

'''Q:''' At what point do we vote? Are we even still voting?

'''A:''' Contributors are encouraged to discuss and vote on Focus Areas to highlight the areas.

'''Q:''' How will this new system move wishes forward for addressing?

'''A:''' The Foundation, affiliates, and volunteer developers can adopt Focus Areas. The Wikimedia Foundation is committed to integrating Focus Areas into our Annual Planning for 2025-26.

Focus Areas align to hypotheses (specific projects, typically taking up to one quarter) and/or Key Results (broader projects taking up to one year).

'''Q:''' How do I submit a wish? Has anything changed about submissions?

'''A:''' Yes there are some changes. Please have a look at [[metawiki:Community_Wishlist_Survey/Updates#July_1,_2024:_The_Community_Wishlist_is_re-opening_Jul_15,_2024._Here%E2%80%99s_what_to_expect,_and_how_to_prepare.|the guide]].

I hope the FAQ helped. You can read more about [[metawiki:Community_Wishlist_Survey/Future_Of_The_Wishlist/Preview_of_the_New_Wishlist#July_1,_2024:_The_Community_Wishlist_is_re-opening_Jul_15,_2024._Here%E2%80%99s_what_to_expect,_and_how_to_prepare.|the launch]].

You are encouraged to start drafting your wishes at your pace. Please consult the guide as you do so. Also if you have an earlier unfulfilled wish that you want to re-submit, we are happy to assist you draft.

You can start your draft (see [[metawiki:User:STei_(WMF)/Sample_Wish_Make_it_easier_for_newcomers_to_create_their_first_article|an example]]) and don't hesitate to ask for support when drafting, please notify me via the '''[[metawiki:Talk:Community_Wishlist_Survey/Future_Of_The_Wishlist#Drafts_List|Drafts List]].'''

–– [[User:STei (WMF)|STei (WMF)]] ([[User talk:STei (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

== U4C Special Election - Call for Candidates ==

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Hello all,

A special election has been called to fill additional vacancies on the U4C. The call for candidates phase is open from now through July 19, 2024.

The [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the [[:foundation:Wikimedia Foundation Universal Code of Conduct|UCoC]]. Community members are invited to submit their applications in the special election for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter|U4C Charter]].

In this special election, according to [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter#2. Elections and Terms|chapter 2 of the U4C charter]], there are 9 seats available on the U4C: '''four''' community-at-large seats and '''five''' regional seats to ensure the U4C represents the diversity of the movement. [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter#5. Glossary|No more than two members of the U4C can be elected from the same home wiki]]. Therefore, candidates must not have English Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, or Italian Wikipedia as their home wiki.

Read more and submit your application on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Election/2024 Special Election|Meta-wiki]].

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== Railway junctions:  Q24045957 vs Q336764 ==

I'd be grateful if anyone could help me distinguish {{Q|24045957}} and {{Q|336764}} -- both used specifically for railway junctions, and distinct from {{Q|Q82818}} and the more general {{Q|Q1777515}}.

There seem to be two different concepts here, at least in German, but I'm not entirely seeing how they should be named in English to express the difference, or whether articles in the various different language wikis are all connected to the correct item.

Which would be most appropriate for a location where one linear {{Q|113990375}} of track (perhaps 50 km long, double-track) meets another such section?   [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
:<small>{{Ping project|Railways}}. (I did ask [[Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Railways#Junctions|on the talk page there]] a couple of years ago, but it didn't get any responses.) [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:14, 2 July 2024 (UTC) </small>

:: I can explain these from the Czech point of view, but the explanation is similar for all countries in the central Europe (Poland, Germany, Slovakia etc.). At thirst {{Q|24045957}} is very big (hundreds of switches) and {{Q|336764}} is very small (sometimes only one switch, but usually not more than four switches). {{Q|24045957}} express connection of lot of railway lines usually in one town/city. E.g. železniční uzel Praha (Prague junction) consists of all railway station in {{Q|1085}}, in which all railway lines leading to this big city are connected. {{Q|336764}} is usually a place where one railway line splits into two railway lines and it is not {{Q|55488}}, so if the railway lines are with one track, then one switch can be enough. In Czechia and Poland it is also a place on the double track line between two stations, where are 4 switches to go from the left to the right track and vice versa (the same place is Slovakia (till 2000 also in Czechia) is classified as {{Q|784159}}). But I have no idea how to name these different places in English. When I translate it, I usually use "junction" for both, although they have completely different meanings. --[[User:Cmelak770|Cmelak770]] ([[User talk:Cmelak770|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:54, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

:: In Germany we strongly distinguish between {{Q|Q1302250}} which roughly means track which is not part of a {{Q|Q55488}} and tracks that are part of a {{Q|Q55488}}. {{Q|336764}} is a junction, that is not part of a {{Q|Q55488}}. As far as I know, (most?) english speaking countries don't have this concept {{Q|Q1302250}}, so this may not be easy to translate. --[[User:Trockennasenaffe|Trockennasenaffe]] ([[User talk:Trockennasenaffe|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

:<small>[[:en:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_Railways#Junctions|Asked]] at [[:en:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_Railways]] whether anyone there can suggest better English-language labels / descriptions [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:56, 7 July 2024 (UTC) </small>
:::{{re|Cmelak770|Trockennasenaffe}} After some input from en-wiki and ChatGPT, I have updated the label/description for Q24045957 to "railway node" = "significant location in the railway network which may encompass multiple connected lines, stations, and facilities, often a major transit hub".
:::I also considered "rail hub" or "railway hub", which I think better captures the sense of the articles for [[Q24045957]] in cs-wiki and ru-wiki, and of items like {{Q|12046953}} and {{Q|Q20860267}}; however the concept described in the de-wiki, nl-wiki, and it-wiki articles seems not necessarily to be on such a large scale.
:::{{Q|336764}} would then be for specific locations of track divergence, usually not in stations.
:::This could probably still be improved or refined, but it may be a start at least.  [[User:Jheald|Jheald]] ([[User talk:Jheald|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks, I think the English description is quite correct now. [[User:Cmelak770|Cmelak770]] ([[User talk:Cmelak770|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

== {{P|902}} having {{Q|21510864}} with {{P|227}} ==

I'm new to Wikidata specific practices, sorry if I screw anything up or asked in the wrong place. I don't think HDS should require a GND ID, considering there are many topics with an HDS article that do not have a GND ID. For example,  {{Q|633032}}. Unless I am horrifically misunderstanding something. [[User:PARAKANYAA|PARAKANYAA]] ([[User talk:PARAKANYAA|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

:I agree, I have removed; too many topics don't have {{P|227}}, so having this constraint isn't worthwhile. [[User:Epìdosis|'''Epì''']][[User talk:Epìdosis|<span style="color:green">'''dosis'''</span>]] 08:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Epìdosis|Epìdosis]] Thank you very much :) [[User:PARAKANYAA|PARAKANYAA]] ([[User talk:PARAKANYAA|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:53, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

== Spelling convention for labels and descriptions in English: Request for comment ==

Hello everyone, just a heads up that a new [[Wikidata:Requests for comment/Spelling convention for labels and descriptions in English|Request for comment]] has been created to discuss a standard approach for labelling in Wikidata. If you're interested, please take a look and share your thoughts. [[User:Carbonaro.|Carbonaro.]] ([[User talk:Carbonaro.|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

== Very widely used property no longer works ==

See [[Property talk:P5380#No longer works]] [[User:BhamBoi|BhamBoi]] ([[User talk:BhamBoi|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

:This is {{P|P5380}}. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 09:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

== Suggestion for Wikidata property to identify online accounts ==

i did already create this before posting (whoops) because i am still kind of new (i can't figure out how/if i could delete it,double whoops, sorry!)
basically i've noted several authors who have "official" archive of our own (AO3) accounts and I feel we should be able to note this, so now archive of our own username exists, and i would like to actively use it. [[User:Honeybeeandtea|Honeybeeandtea]] ([[User talk:Honeybeeandtea|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

:by "official" i mean linked to on their official websites, but aren't offical in the sense that their publishers are involved [[User:Honeybeeandtea|Honeybeeandtea]] ([[User talk:Honeybeeandtea|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:53, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::You have rather jumped the gun. You should use {{P|8419}} with qualifiers, and ask for your item {{Q|127358232}} to be deleted. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:32, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:::i don't disagree with you on the fact that i jumped the gun, but in the case of AO3, tags have a specific purpose that is separate from that of a username. using the the "ao3 tag" and then amending it to "but actually i mean the username" feels like an ineloquent and roundabout way to express a relationship as linear as "this is that person's username" [[User:Honeybeeandtea|Honeybeeandtea]] ([[User talk:Honeybeeandtea|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:55, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:There's currently no dedicated property for AO3 accounts. You can use {{Property|P553}} instead (see the property examples on that page for how to use it). Additionally, you could propose a new property specifically for AO3 accounts (see [[Wikidata:Property proposal]]) - but those are usually only succesfull if there's a significant number of potential items for persons with such accounts. --[[Special:Contributions/2A02:810B:580:11D4:D5AC:53B7:B54E:983E|2A02:810B:580:11D4:D5AC:53B7:B54E:983E]] 19:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::I tend to use {{P|1343}} with URL and other qualifiers for non-property relations to external sites. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:48, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:::I'd say {{P|1343}} is more for webpages that are ''about'' the thing/concept (and preferably actually contain some in-depth information). While accounts/user profiles are IMO better suited for {{Property|P553}}, since that's the whole purpose of the property. Using more specific properties makes it much easier to evaluate the exact nature and potential use of the linked pages. --[[Special:Contributions/2A02:810B:580:11D4:9156:3944:B752:5BF9|2A02:810B:580:11D4:9156:3944:B752:5BF9]] 12:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Good point, but I'm surprised how unused it is, only 25 records for British authors, and 2500 for all humans. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::maybe it's a sign we have good coverage over must sites people have accounts on [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] ([[User talk:BrokenSegue|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
== [[Q3281534]] ("modern history") has a misleading name ==

I tried to find instructions on how to request renaming of an item but couldn't find anything, so I'm posting here.

The object in question is incorrectly named. As a historical period, the term is "modern period" or "modern era". Calling it "modern history" would be like naming [[Q12554]] "medieval history" or [[Q9903]] "Ming history".

The term "modern period" or "modern era" are the standard terms among English-language academic sources. [[User:Peter Isotalo|Peter Isotalo]] ([[User talk:Peter Isotalo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

:I don't disagree, but please don't leave the en-gb label with the old name, just delete it [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:I thought it strange when I tried to add "Modern History" as an {{P|P812}} to an item earlier today and it wasn't appearing in the search. I've re-added "modern history" as an alias as this item is used for the {{Q|Q11862829}} and is the widely used term: https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/subjects/history/modern-history-ma/ https://www.lincoln.ac.uk/course/modhstub/ https://courses.aber.ac.uk/postgraduate/modern-history-masters/ See also for example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_History and https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_history [[User:Piecesofuk|Piecesofuk]] ([[User talk:Piecesofuk|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:00, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]], I'm not really that handy with Wikidata. To change the name of something, do I just edit the label?
::@[[User:Piecesofuk|Piecesofuk]], I'm not sure I understand the logic here. Is a historical period the same as the discipline studying that historical period? Isn't that like saying that "[[Q1662673|gender studies]]" has to be an alias of "[[Q48277|gender]]"?
::Note that the English Wikipedia article has never been located at "modern history". It's just a redirect. [[User:Peter Isotalo|Peter Isotalo]] ([[User talk:Peter Isotalo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes, I agree, it probably should be split into two. But at the moment there are hundreds of items that link to {{Q|Q3281534}} assuming it's an {{Q|Q11862829}}. English Wikipedia is using "modern history" as an alias, for example see in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_Attlee and the link in the sentence "In 1901, Attlee went up to University College, Oxford, reading '''modern history'''." Unless someone creates a new item for the academic discipline and moves all the linking items then I think the "modern history" alias should remain. [[User:Piecesofuk|Piecesofuk]] ([[User talk:Piecesofuk|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:08, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Yes, just edit the label section and make the en-gb line blank. I think it needs to be split, like early modern history is.
::::{{SPARQL|query=SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE {?item wdt:P69 ?place;p:P69 [ pq:P812 wd:Q3281534].} }}
::::Shows 44 the people for which is was an academic major. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:52, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::Okay, thanks for the clarifications. I see the logic in keeping the alias. I'm trying to work to improve the coverage of this and adjacent topics over at English Wikipedia. I think that needs to be dealt with before sorting things out here.
:::::But very good pointers for the future. Thanks! [[User:Peter Isotalo|Peter Isotalo]] ([[User talk:Peter Isotalo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::One thing, you made the change before allowing people to comment here. Its always tempting to leap ahead, but you need to allow people to comment on a proposed change, rather than persuade you to revert it. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:52, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

== {{Q|Q15720608}} ==

By the time of now, this label is `Mahfuja`, but the evidences are this was `Wikidata qualifier`, that you and I knew well. Is this a joke or something? [[User:JuguangXiao|JuguangXiao]] ([[User talk:JuguangXiao|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:The item had been vandalised. [[User:Peter James|Peter James]] ([[User talk:Peter James|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:Yet another valuable [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q15720608&diff=prev&oldid=2202877265 IP contribution]. [[User:DarwIn|<span style="font-family:Candara; color:#4153A0; font-size:110%;"> '''Darwin'''</span>]] [[User talk:DarwIn|<span style="color:#4153A0; font-style:oblique;"><sup>Ahoy!</sup></span>]] 14:52, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

== Identical website address ==

{{Q|5132479}} have two identical address for {{P|856}}. Can someone delete one of them? [[Special:Contributions/151.95.91.76|151.95.91.76]] 13:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

:{{done}} {{Section resolved||1=[[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:47, 19 July 2024 (UTC)}}
== Good practice on labels ==

(pinging @[[User:Tm|Tm]]. continuing discussion from [[User talk:Tm#Edits on stores for Lojas com História]]. no harm to {{them|Tm}}.)

to the Wikidata community, I want to ask about [[Help:Label]] and what is the good practice in this situation. some Wikidata items, in this case buildings, are labeled simply as their street address with a prefix. take for example, {{Q|98962545}} (literally, "building on Rua Joaquim António de Aguiar, 45") or {{Q|90315021}} (literally, "Loja Confeitaria Nacional, ground floor, including integrated movable heritage"). this is taken straight from the sourced external databases. 

according to [[Help:Label]]: {{xt|Labels begin with a lowercase letter except for when uppercase is normally required or expected [...] [[:en:Proper_noun|proper nouns]] such as the names of specific people, specific places, specific buildings, specific books, etc., should be capitalized}}. my question is, would this be counted as a proper name? the building itself has no name and these are simply descriptions of the given place. so then how would it be labeled? [[User:JnpoJuwan|JnpoJuwan]] ([[User talk:JnpoJuwan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:13, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

:These are proper names, as i said to you. They have their proper name by the portuguese cultural heritage, the former DGPC. If you had taken a few minutes you would see that, no ad hoc translation made with any sourced translated name is made, these are proper names named so in legislation and\or portuguese cultural heritage databases kept by the portugues estate organizations that have in their remit said cultural heritage. You said that [[Q98962545|
:Prédio na Rua Joaquim António de Aguiar, 45]] that "the building itself has no name and these are simply descriptions of the given place" yet you have [https://servicos.dgpc.gov.pt/pesquisapatrimonioimovel/detalhes.php?code=21461685 the main DGPC database], [https://anoeuropeu.patrimoniocultural.gov.pt/pt/patrimonio/itinerarios/norte-junior-itinerarios-1930-1947/edificio-na-rua-duque-de-palmela-32-32d-onde-se-encontra-instalado-o-hotel-aviz other database of DGPC with the same name].
:And [[Q90315021|Loja Confeitaria Nacional, piso térreo, incluindo o património móvel integrado]]] is the listed part of the shop [[Q2992412|Confeitaria Nacional]], as the shop is not all listed cultural heritage in its totality. Again the name is the proper name, as stated in  [https://servicos.dgpc.gov.pt/pesquisapatrimonioimovel/detalhes.php?code=23229141 main DGPC database] and legislation listing it, from [https://files.diariodarepublica.pt/2s/2017/10/195000000/2287022870.pdf  Anúncio n.º 174/2017], going with [https://files.diariodarepublica.pt/2s/2020/02/042000000/0015500155.pdf Anúncio n.º 38/2020] and ending in [https://files.diariodarepublica.pt/2s/2020/10/203000000/0007100072.pdf Portaria n.º 613/2020]. [[User:Tm|Tm]] ([[User talk:Tm|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
::And these names are completly used in Wikidata, just as an example [[Q17554902|Iron Foundry (building Number 1/140) Iron Foundry (building Number 1/140) Including Railings And Bollards]] or [[Q26398306|Vulcan Block (Building Number 21) And Attached Bollards]] or  [[Q26654974|Number 15 And Attached Agricultural Building]] or  [[Q26508894|Factory Building Outbuilding Attached To Number 55]] or [[Q26606038|Castle Farm Cottages Number 5 And Farm Building Attached]], british listed cultural heritage monuments, among of hundreds silimars. [[User:Tm|Tm]] ([[User talk:Tm|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
:::I am also asking to a wider community to determine whether it is a good thing to continue doing as such. [[User:JnpoJuwan|JnpoJuwan]] ([[User talk:JnpoJuwan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Any search for listed buildings will show you that this is a common and long established pratice. [[User:Tm|Tm]] ([[User talk:Tm|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:07, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::Like, as an example of an US building [[Q126877102|New York Herald Building]] or the listed building in U.S. National Register of Historic Places [[Q1003019|Building at 73 Mansion Street]] and this last building uses same the name in its articles in [[:w:en:Building_at_73_Mansion_Street|english Wikipedia]] and [[:w:de:Building_at_73_Mansion_Street|german Wikipedia]] [[User:Tm|Tm]] ([[User talk:Tm|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:35, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
:::The labels for British buildings comes from their source as being imported from a heritage register. We ensure that the listing property has {{P|1810}} to preserve this, but I fully expect that we might change the name to a more colloquial form on WD, as we should not be bound by a listing officer's conventions on defining a site's scope, and it makes little sense to create 2 items merely to have them with and without their bollards. There are many examples of things where their official name is different from the common name. We should record both in the body of the entry, but the label, for use by humans scanning the site and report summaries, should be the colloquial version. I'd also expect foreign language labels to adjust for their own formatting conventions (moving the street number to the start in English for example), but without actually translating names literally. 

:::"The Vulcan Building" is a good example, and I'd expect other Portsmouth historic buildings to be changed too in time  [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
::I have seen the descriptions given in these items, that I do not doubt. what I ask is: what is considered a proper name here, as the same databases list many other designations for the same item besides that, or for SIPA, do not list the original. 
::even if these are the legally recognised names, is it useful to list these names first as opposed to descriptive and importantly translatable names? [[User:JnpoJuwan|JnpoJuwan]] ([[User talk:JnpoJuwan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
:::This are monuments are named so in legislation and the databases of the portuguese Património Cultural, IP (former DGPC), so these are proper names. The pratice in Wikidata is not not  make ad hoc translation without proper sources that state that there is a commons translated name and you have the example of the british listed cultural heritage monuments to see what these are proper names and they are capitalized in Wikidata. 
:::These are designations are other proper names to the same items, from the databases of portuguese Património Cultural, IP (former DGPC) from the main DGPC database (and legislation) for cultural heritage monuments. For complement, there are other databases from Património Cultural, IP (former DGPC) like the SIPA database and, for specific cases, other databases of works of specific routes or arquitects like the as the one linked as "other database of DGPC" and or archeological sites database. [[User:Tm|Tm]] ([[User talk:Tm|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:04, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
: I think a good rule of thumb here is "how would this label work in the middle of a sentence?" Would one write "This is a photo of Prédio na Rua Joaquim António de Aguiar, 45" or "This is a photo of prédio na Rua Joaquim António de Aguiar, 45"? Maybe in English the answer would be one way and in another language it would be different; I know for example in French lower-case is very common for what in English would be upper-cased. In any case I think this general rule should work across most languages. [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:43, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
::for this case, it is would certainly be lowercased as "prédio" is not a proper noun, it is just the word for building and describing the given address, for that reason I suggest using an informal approach for these items. [[User:JnpoJuwan|JnpoJuwan]] ([[User talk:JnpoJuwan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
:::In this case this is certainly uppercase as this is a proper name of this building, as stated in two different sources databases of portuguese Património Cultural, IP (former DGPC) , that talk and describe specifically this building. [https://anoeuropeu.patrimoniocultural.gov.pt/pt/patrimonio/itinerarios/norte-junior-itinerarios-1930-1947/lisboa-parque-eduardo-vii-e-bairro-azul-predio-na-rua-joaquim-antonio-de-aguiar-45 in one source is clearly stated "Designação:Prédio na Rua Joaquim António de Aguiar, 45" or "Name\designation:Prédio na Rua Joaquim António de Aguiar], [https://servicos.dgpc.gov.pt/pesquisapatrimonioimovel/detalhes.php?code=21461685 the same as other source]. These is a name with not one but two sources. [[User:Tm|Tm]] ([[User talk:Tm|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Also im portuguese one capitalizes the proper names of buildings as stated in [https://ciberduvidas.iscte-iul.pt/consultorio/perguntas/pontuacao-em-enderecos/13967 Ciberdúvidas da Língua Portuguesa  "A maiúscula é obrigatória apenas para os nomes próprios (dos edifícios, das vias, dos bairros, das localidades...)."] or in english "Capital letters are mandatory only for proper nouns (of buildings, roads, neighborhoods, towns...)". [[User:Tm|Tm]] ([[User talk:Tm|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:44, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::Another page on [https://ciberduvidas.iscte-iul.pt/consultorio/perguntas/a-expressao-pacos-do-concelho/36277 Ciberdúvidas da Língua Portuguesa states that "Como geralmente é expressão referente a um edifício histórico importante, escreve-se com maiúsculas iniciais" or in english "As it is generally an expression referring to an important historical building, it is written with initial capital letters"]. This also applies to this building as is also an important historical building, as is described, with this same capitalized name, in three different databases of the Património Cultural, IP (former DGPC), the department of the portuguese Ministry of Culture responsible for the listing of the portuguese immovable cultural heritage, besides [https://culturaportugal.gov.pt/pt/conhecer/rota/mmp-rotas/rota-norte-junior-1930-1947/ another database of the portuguese Ministry of Culture], so showing that this is a clear important historical building. [[User:Tm|Tm]] ([[User talk:Tm|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::And, if any there is any doubt the [[:w:Portuguese Language Orthographic Agreement of 1990|Portuguese Language Orthographic Agreement of 1990]] as  "SÍNTESE DO USO DA MAIÚSCULA INICIAL E DA MINÚSCULA INICIAL [[https://www.incm.pt/actos/acordo_ortografico.html I A letra inicial maiúscula é utilizada: (...) 11.º Na letra inicial de palavras usadas em categorizações de logradouros públicos, de templos e de edifícios: Bairro de Alvalade; Rossio; a Alta de Lisboa; (...) Rua Augusta; Rua da Palma; Pátio do Tijolo; Basílica da Estrela; Capelas Imperfeitas; Convento dos Capuchos; Igreja de Santa Maria Maior; Igreja do Bonfim; Templo do Apostolado Positivista; Mosteiro de Santa Maria(...); Edifício Azevedo Cunha.] or in english ""SUMMARY OF THE USE OF INITIAL CAPITAL AND INITIAL LOWERCASE The initial capital letter is used: (...) 11th In the initial letter of words used in categorizations of public places, temples and buildings" [[User:Tm|Tm]] ([[User talk:Tm|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

: all in all, I will respect [[User:Tm|Tm]]'s decision and keep the labels as is, as {{they have|Tm}} made good arguments in regards to this. I am so sorry if this was a headache for you. --[[User:JnpoJuwan|JnpoJuwan]] ([[User talk:JnpoJuwan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

:It's a complex question and it partially depends on the language. I'm not sure for Portuguese but in French, proper names often start with a lowercase. For English, I would like a confirmation (ping {{U|ArthurPSmith}}) but cases like {{Q|1003019}} should probably be begin with a lowercase too (like in the Wikipedia article). Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:53, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, given that the associated enwiki article starts "The building at 73 Mansion Street [...]" the wikidata entry should be labeled "building at 73 Mansion Street" in English. I've fixed it. [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:39, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:pinging Portuguese users @[[User:DiogoBaptista|DiogoBaptista]], @[[User:GoEThe|GoEThe]] to see this. [[User:JnpoJuwan|JnpoJuwan]] ([[User talk:JnpoJuwan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:48, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
::I am Portuguese, and quite familiar with that documentation, constantly working with it for almost 20 years. Thinks like "building in street x" are mere descriptions for effects of listing of the heritage, and not official names of anything. They are just a way that allows some identification (often not even that precise) of the listing. They are not intended to be used as official names, nor should be used as such. As for the SIPA database, it's a expert sourced mixed with crowdsourced repository with many mistakes, some of them egregious. Can be used with care, but definitely is not a source of official names, being even worst on that subject than the documentation itself. In any case, those are mere descriptions, and they are not necessarily, by any stretch of imagination, intended as official names. [[User:DarwIn|<span style="font-family:Candara; color:#4153A0; font-size:110%;"> '''Darwin'''</span>]] [[User talk:DarwIn|<span style="color:#4153A0; font-style:oblique;"><sup>Ahoy!</sup></span>]] 15:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

:::Como referiste e bem há erros graves de nomes na SIPA e até na DGPM, pelo que não são fontes totalmente confiáveis especialmente em matéria de nomes, caso que me parece grave e que está a gerar conflito é o do Bairro das Estacas ou Bairro de habitações económicas de São João de Deus e não de São José https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25418835 situação que eu corrigi e que foi revertida sem qualquer justificação pelo utilizador @[[User:Tm|Tm]]. Fontes que suportam essa denominação. https://dre.tretas.org/dre/4454194/anuncio-51-2021-de-17-de-marco https://amensagem.pt/2021/07/12/a-vida-entre-estacas-alvalade/ https://www.publico.pt/2021/03/17/local/noticia/bairro-estacas-alvalade-vias-classificacao-1954810 [[User:DiogoBaptista|DiogoBaptista]] ([[User talk:DiogoBaptista|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:18, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:::: {{cot|title=Translation of Diogo Baptista}}
As you rightly pointed out, there are serious naming errors in SIPA and even in the DGPM, so they are not totally reliable sources, especially in terms of names. A case that seems serious to me and that is generating conflict is the Bairro das Estacas or Bairro de habitações económicas de São João de Deus and not São José https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25418835 this is something that I corrected and that was reverted without any justification by the user Tm. Sources that support this denomination. https://dre.tretas.org/dre/4454194/anuncio-51-2021-de-17-de-marco https://amensagem.pt/2021/07/12/a-vida-entre-estacas-alvalade/ https://www.publico.pt/2021/03/17/local/noticia/bairro-estacas-alvalade-vias-classificacao-1954810
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:::: [[User:JnpoJuwan|JnpoJuwan]] ([[User talk:JnpoJuwan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:39, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

::Ping @[[User:GualdimG|GualdimG]] [[User:DarwIn|<span style="font-family:Candara; color:#4153A0; font-size:110%;"> '''Darwin'''</span>]] [[User talk:DarwIn|<span style="color:#4153A0; font-style:oblique;"><sup>Ahoy!</sup></span>]] 15:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:Não sei quem anda a copiar os nomes todos da antiga DGPC inclusive fazendo-o ignorando paginas e categorias wikidata e wikicommons que ja existiam duplicando assim paginas sobre o mesmo assunto.
:É um absurdo o nome da Confeiteria Nacional ser “Loja Confeitaria Nacional, piso térreo e primeiro andar, incluindo o património móvel integrado” ou o Banco de Angola e Metrópole ser "Edifício do Banco de Fomento Nacional na Rua da Conceição, n.º 134-136" este ultimo caso duplicou paginas ignorando a já existente. Ainda um pior, o edificio Almirante Reis, 2 a 2-K foi denominado de "Prédio situado no gaveto formado pela Avenida do Almirante Reis, 2 a 2-K, e Largo do Intendente Pina Manique, 1 a 6"
:A DGPC não tem qualquer poder em alterar os nomes comuns ou oficiais dos lugares, esses nomes são técnicos e meramente da DGPC para fins de classificação patrimonial e não tem qualquer correspondência com a realidade ou com o nome oficial de certo lugar. Em certos casos esse nome da DGPC agrupa vários objectos num só não sendo possível assim a distinção de cada um de forma individual. Aliás, penso até que o nome das paginas da wikidepia deve prevalecer a denominação mais comum e popular havendo espaço reservado para outros nomes (wikidata por exemplo) ou redirecionamentos. [[User:DiogoBaptista|DiogoBaptista]] ([[User talk:DiogoBaptista|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:08, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:: {{cot|title=Translation of Diogo Baptista}}
I don't know who went about copying all the names from the old DGPC including doing so ignoring existing pages and categories on Wikidata and Commons and so duplicating pages for the same thing

It is absurd for the name of Confeitaria Nacional to be "Loja Confeitaria Nacional, piso térreo e primeiro andar, incluindo o património móvel integrado" or the Banco de Angola e Metrópole to be "Edifício do Banco de Fomento Nacional na Rua da Conceição, n.º 134-136". This last one duplicated oages ignoring the existing ones. An even worse one is the Almirante Reus building, 2 to 2-K, was named "Prédio situado no gaveto formado pela Avenida do Almirante Reis, 2 a 2-K, e Largo do Intendente Pina Manique, 1 a 6"

DGPC holds no any power to change common or official place names, these names are technical and merely used by the DGPC for heritage classification purposes and lack any connection with reality or with the official name of a certain place. In certain cases, this name by the DGPC groups several objects into one without it being possible to distinguish each one separately. Furthermore, I think that even in the page titles for Wikipedia, the common and popular name should take precedence, with reserved space for other names (Wikidata for example) or redirects
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:: [[User:JnpoJuwan|JnpoJuwan]] ([[User talk:JnpoJuwan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Do buildings (properties, in general) have a "proper name" (official designation) in Portugal? Yes, they do. This first name is what is registered at the Land Registry Office (Conservatória do Registo Predial) to which corresponds a Land Registry (Caderneta Predial) (like people, who are registered in the Identification File (Arquivo de Identificação) and who have a Citizen Card). The buildings are also registered with "Finance" (Taxes Department), where they have a matrix registration number (people also have a tax identification number). Then, the buildings have other designations, some official, others more common. In Portugal, there are buildings (castles, palaces, manor houses, churches, chapels, etc.) that are subject to cultural heritage classification and by that obtain another official designation by law (laws, decrees, ordinances, etc.). This official designation is reflected in two state databases (which overlap) which we can call one DGPC and the other SIPA (there are other unofficial databases such as [https://www.e-cultura.pt /patrimonio/ e-cultura], for example). The DGPC database uses the official designation of the classification process more specifically, while SIPA is not as strict regarding the use of the legal designation. It is interesting to note that, for the example already given of Confeitaria Nacional in Lisbon, the DGPC indicates [https://servicos.dgpc.gov.pt/pesquisapatrimonioimovel/detalhes.php?code=23229141 "Loja Confeitaria Nacional, piso térreo e primeiro andar, incluindo o património móvel integrado"] while SIPA indicates [http://www.monumentos.gov.pt/Site/APP_PagesUser/SIPA.aspx?id=20900 "Edifício na Praça da Figueira, n.º 18/ Edifício da Confeitaria Nacional"]. It should be noted that the object of classification was only the ground floor and the first floor, which is expressed in the DGPC db, while in the SIPA db both designations point to the entire building, being certain that the ground floor and the 1st floor are obviously part of the set.

Then the problem arises of distinguishing the property itself from the use/user given to it. In this case they still coincide, and Confeitaria Nacional can indicate both the property and the use given to it. Since in Wikidata there are two elements (and well), one for the property (Q90315021), and another for the user (Q2992412), although in this case it is wrong to say that the user is "part of" a property, when the correct thing would be that has "headquarters" in that property. But, for me, the Wikidata element referring to the property (Q90315021) could just have the designation "Confeitaria Nacional", for the sake of simplicity (and without risk of confusion), as long as it should had a correct "Description", which could be "building in Lisbon where Confeitaria Nacional is located, ground floor and first floor, including the integrated movable assets".

In summary. The rule that has been followed should continue to be applied, that the designation Wikidata/Commons is the legal designation whenever it exists, that is, the designation of the legal instrument that classifies the property (or the classification process that has not been completed), and should be simplified whenever possible and without the possibility of error, as in the case mentioned, in which the Wikidata elements Q90315021 and Q2992412 could both have the same first name, "Confeitaria Nacional", the first for the building and the second for the user (confectionery).[[User:GualdimG|GualdimG]] ([[User talk:GualdimG|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:23, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

:what is your opinion on labeling other items such as Trees of Public Interest? these all are named like {{Q|98444561}}, which is less than useful. in the history, you can see how I did it.
:* label: <tree species> in <place>
:* description: Tree of Public Interest in <place>, <city>
:none of these are really proper names but one is more descriptive. [[User:JnpoJuwan|JnpoJuwan]] ([[User talk:JnpoJuwan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
:another option is adding info from their sources, such as numbers. [https://www.jf-campodeourique.pt/media/upload/news/75/files/01-02-metrosidero.pdf this] states that the tree above is "Árvore Classificada de Interesse Público D.R. 2.ªsérie – N. º169 de 03/09/2018". the label could perhaps include that for distinction and descriptiveness. [[User:JnpoJuwan|JnpoJuwan]] ([[User talk:JnpoJuwan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:31, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

== Wikidata weekly summary #536 ==

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* New requests for permissions/Bot: [[d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/SpinachBot|SpinachBot]] - Task/s: AI agent-enabled question answering through the creation and execution of complex SPARQL queries on Wikidata. Users tag the bog with wikidata-related questions, and it tries to come up with an answer by iteratively creating SPARQL queries. 

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''' Press, articles, blog posts, videos '''
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** [https://wikiedu.org/blog/2024/07/10/an-intelligent-system-what-i-learned-through-taking-an-introductory-wikidata-course/ An Intelligent System: What I learned through taking an introductory Wikidata course] - The author, Anne-Christine Hoff, dispels misconceptions about Wikidata. She highlights that it is a relational communication system, not solely bot-driven, and allows users worldwide to add localized data in multiple languages, creating a self-structuring repository of information
** [http://magnusmanske.de/wordpress/archives/731 Merge and diff] - blog post by Magnus about adding new properties (taxon data speficially, NCBI, GBIF, and iINaturalist) to the AC2WD tool. If you have the user script installed on Wikidata (see tool below), AC2WD will automatically show up on relevant taxon items.
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2MXK2yWJko Documenting Women Artists Through Wikidata] - this project reveals how works by women artists can be given greater public visibility.
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVe2CSWCDZ0 Dagbani Lexemes (how-to-workshop in Dagbanli)] - increase the vocabulary and standardize existing entries.
* Papers: [https://acl-bg.org/proceedings/2023/RANLP%202023/pdf/2023.ranlp-1.2.pdf Automatic Generation of Hindi Wikipedia Pages" based on information from Wikidata]
* Videos
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRD2XbxQqPQ Online workshop Upskilling in Wikidata for maximum impact IBC 2024] - Recording of the virtual Wikidata workshop given on the 9th of July 2024. An onboarding and introductory event in anticipation of a full in-person workshop to be held at the International Botanical Congress 2024 in Madrid on the 21st of July 2024
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK-qOCk2fUE Connecting University Art Collections Wikidata Demo]
* Notebooks
** [https://observablehq.com/collection/@pac02/tour-de-france Collection of notebooks about the Tour de France]
** [https://observablehq.com/@pac02/computing-jaccard-similarity-between-wikidata-item Computing Jaccard similarity index between Wikidata items based on properties used in statements].

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* [https://observablehq.com/@pac02/relationships Relationships between two Wikidata items] a new tool hosted on Observable which looks at all statements involving a pair of Wikidata items.
* [[d:User:Magnus Manske/ac2wd.js|User:Magnus Manske/ac2wd.js]] - This script adds an "AC2WD" link in the tools sidebar.  When you click on it, it uses the [https://ac2wd.toolforge.org AC2WD] tool to check the item for certain Authority Control IDs (eg VIAF). It then checks these AC datasets for statements (and more AC IDs). It will then add any new information it found as new statements, or add more references to existing statements where possible. A green checkmark will be appended to the link if data was added (reload the page to see), otherwise a "&mdash;" if no new data was available.

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* [https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/releases/tag/3.8.2 OpenRefine 3.8.2&nbsp;was released]
* [https://github.com/johnsamuelwrites/awesome-wikidata/blob/main/README.md#shape-expressions-entity-schemas Awesome Wikidata: Shape Expressions (Entity Schemas)] - Tools for creating, editing, and generating entity schemas

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A [[Special:Contributions/94.176.18.80|94.176.18.80]] 02:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

== Location of Trump rally ==

Greetings editors,
I just want to raise this issue in a centralized location for your attention.
It would seem that the most controversial element of last weekend's Trump rally is its location. Reliable sources and editors are bitterly divided on this issue.
Therefore I've put in some research, and proposed some compromises and a path forward.

Please keep the peace! Contribute any opinions or suggestions at [[Talk:Q127421251#Location suggestions]]. Thank you! [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:43, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
== not sure what transcluded means in new property proposal ==

I have tried to propose a new property 
[[Wikidata:Property proposal/africanmusiclibrary.org artist id]]
but somehow messed it up. it says
"You have not transcluded your proposal on Wikidata:Property proposal/Person yet. Please do it."
but I'm not sure what this means, and it's not obvious what to do when clicking the "Please do it" link
Please could someone help me
Thanks. [[User:QWER9875|QWER9875]] ([[User talk:QWER9875|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

:[https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?diff=2201964972 This] was the desired action. --[[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:58, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
::thank you! [[User:QWER9875|QWER9875]] ([[User talk:QWER9875|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

== How to add RSS and OAI-PMH links to articles ==

I'm working on {{Q|Q96737379}} and would link to add links to the three kinds of RSS feed provided and the OAI-PMH feed. How do I do this? I can see the {{Q|Q45432}}  {{Q|Q267956}}  and {{Q|Q2430433}} but not associated properties. [[User:Stuartyeates|Stuartyeates]] ([[User talk:Stuartyeates|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

:There is {{P|1019}}, which I believe is what you want. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:40, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you, [[User:Koavf]], that was the answer I was looking for. [[User:Stuartyeates|Stuartyeates]] ([[User talk:Stuartyeates|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Genuinely amazing when I get something correct. Glad I could help, Stuart. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

== Locations of part-time Japanese schools ==

Hello! Many part-time overseas Japanese schools (schools for Japanese citizens living overseas which hold classes on weekends) have a setup where they have the school office in one location, but use a rented facility (usually another school) to actually hold the classes. For example, Columbus Japanese Language School ([[Q97216986]]) has its administrative office in Worthington, but it uses a middle school in Marysville to conduct its classes.

I set the primary location to be the administrative office and not the classroom location. Would this be OK?

As for the one in Princeton, New Jersey ([[Q19840596]]), it has an office from Tuesday to Friday in Princeton, New Jersey, but its Sunday office and classroom space is at Rider University in Lawrence Township. Should the Princeton location be the primary location, or should it be the Rider University one? [[User:WhisperToMe|WhisperToMe]] ([[User talk:WhisperToMe|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

== Editing is broken on m.wikidata.org ==

I wasted like 45 minutes looking up guides and FAQs in order to figure out how to make a simple change, turns out it just doesn't work and you have to go on the desktop site. Sorry if this is the wrong place for such feedback but that's kind of bad. [[User:Asdf433|Asdf433]] ([[User talk:Asdf433|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
== Testing a new scholia-derived scraper ==

I have been working on a scholia-derived scraper (code at https://github.com/stuartyeates/scholia) which rather than being doi-centric is journal centric. That is it understands that journals have issues and issues have items in a hierarchy and crawls and links them appropriately. I'm aware that there are rules around bots and I'm a long way from running the scraper in a even a semi-automated fashion. I've got to to the point where I'm generating what look like good quick statement batches, but I've not actually tried executing them.  My question really relates to testing the thing as I hand crank it: are people going to object if I import and then revert a couple of batches a dozen times as I iron out issues and get the coverage I'm looking for? My code is reasonably complex, because where items already exist for journals (which is where I'm starting) I'm trying to enhance them with proper RSS feeds, OAI-PMH info, etc, etc. [[User:Stuartyeates|Stuartyeates]] ([[User talk:Stuartyeates|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Stuartyeates}} If I understand what you're asking, you probably should post this on [[Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot]]. Typically 50-100 edits are fine before approval of a new bot task. [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
:I am not sure I understand what you want to do. Do you suggest items to be created for the journal volumes and issues, or do you suggest to pull in full issues? [[User:Egon Willighagen|Egon Willighagen]] ([[User talk:Egon Willighagen|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
:: The OJS software (which has >10000 installs and is the software I'm targeting), is issue-focused so provides clear, consistent and reliable metadata for issues, but not so much for volumes, so I'm creating items for issues but not volumes. [[User:Stuartyeates|Stuartyeates]] ([[User talk:Stuartyeates|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

== Described by source can only be used for "printed dictionaries and encyclopedias" ==

I thought this was settled years ago, but it has cropped up again. See the argument at [[Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions#Q126936162]] as a rationale for deletion. Please contribute to the debate at [[Property_talk:P1343#Encyclopedias_and_dictionaries_only]]. While the property was created for encyclopedias and dictionaries in 2014 it has been expanded to other reliable sources that we have Wikidata entries for. The rationale for expanding its use was to make it unnecessary to create hyper-specific properties for news articles and books and obituaries. [[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:06, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

== Genes in Wikidata ==

The way that we handle genes in Wikidata is different from how they are handled on Wikipedia. For example, for the [[:en:COX1 gene|COX1 gene]], Wikidata has items for:
*{{Q|14865314}} - COX1 in Homo sapiens
*{{Q|14865315}} - COX1 in Mus musculus
*{{Q|27543918}} - COX1 in Saccharomyces cerevisiae S288c
*{{Q|24395071}} - COX1 in Rattus norvegicus
*{{Q|29763558}} - COX1 in Danio rerio
*{{Q|68073820}} - COX1 in Caenorhabditis elegans
But we don't have an item for the COX1 gene in general, a gene that is present in all eukaryotes (plants, animals, fungi, etc.). The Wikipedia article is about the gene in all eukaryotes, but it is linked only to {{Q|14865314}} (the gene in humans). Every gene I've checked on Wikidata is set-up in the same way, with items for the genes in specific species, but no items for the genes in general. Should we create items for the genes in general and link those to the Wikipedia articles? If so, what properties should be used to connect the general items to the species-specific items? And I realize some genes are only known from specific groups of organisms or species, so this wouldn't necessarily apply to every gene. [[User:Nosferattus|Nosferattus]] ([[User talk:Nosferattus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:33, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

:It does indeed sound like overkill, especially as {{P|703}} allows a list of species for the rarer ones. I'd ask in [[Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Biology]], which is active. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
== {{P|973}} and {{Q|126379084}} ==

There has been an influx of links using {{P|973}} to add links to {{Q|126379084}} [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q76485&curid=79113&diff=2204445842&oldid=2200582872 such as this example].  This looks like link spam, since the web address is a Web Portal, and not a database. --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] ([[User talk:EncycloPetey|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 02:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

:This issue has been raised in the past at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Reinheitsgebot#Please_stop, but is still continuing. They're very low-value links, often with nothing but low-quality user-submitted photos (if even that), and certainly should not be included using {{P|P973}}. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 02:51, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
::How about we just add the URL to the blacklist? [[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Yes, that might be the better solution. Not sure what the process for that is here. <span style="font-variant:small-caps; white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:3px 2px 6px slateblue;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 22:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Not if it's just the bot, which can be blocked if it continues (and if there are additions by other users of Mix'n'match, the data can be deleted there). [[User:Peter James|Peter James]] ([[User talk:Peter James|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

::Could you please add the URL to the blacklist {{ping|Lymantria}}--[[User:Trade|Trade]] ([[User talk:Trade|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
:::{{Done}} --[[User:Lymantria|Lymantria]] ([[User talk:Lymantria|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC) P.S. Requests can be made at [[MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist]].
::::Addition of the links had already stopped. The blacklist entry is likely to only have one effect - to make it impossible to revert an old version after vandalism or other incorrect edits. [[User:Peter James|Peter James]] ([[User talk:Peter James|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::Check that, indeed too many false positives. I've removed it from the spam blacklist again. --[[User:Lymantria|Lymantria]] ([[User talk:Lymantria|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:55, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
:There are still many instances added round that date, including [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q75854&curid=78495&diff=2204473525&oldid=2196087005], [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q108555&curid=111177&diff=2204475608&oldid=2179105211], and [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q167837&curid=168335&diff=2204511229&oldid=2182787404].  The ones I've found are all the result of mix-n-match, but none are from the same batch. --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] ([[User talk:EncycloPetey|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:01, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

== Q75663418 ==

At {{Q|Q75663418}} it looks like there was a bad merge of two people with similar names. Anyone want to take on the challenge of sorting them out? [[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
* Thanks for fixing! --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 05:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

== I'm not sure {{Q|111901161}} adheres to the notability policy ==

Hi,

I came across this entity and noticed that every identifier comes from the original entity ({{Q|239}}).<br>
This issue has been raised on the [[Talk:Q111901161|talk page]]. But I'm not convinced this is the right way to do things. [[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:49, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
: Basically this is the issue I described in [[Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2023/01#natural_locality_vs_administrative_division]].--[[User:GZWDer|GZWDer]] ([[User talk:GZWDer|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:00, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

== Monument in Chile is whole town that we have an item of ==

Hej, I stumbled upon {{Q|42897945}}, which describes a national monument of Chile. The monument classifies the whole town of {{Q|187893}} as a ''Zona Típica'', i.e. a traditional village. Should these be two seperate entities or should the two items be merged?

I reckon the classification should be similar to e.g. UNESCO heritage sites. Hence, we could use {{P|1435}}? (See {{Q|12508}} for an example.) Writing this out, I have actually become quite confident that this would be the correct process but since Wikidata still is an enigma to me at most times, I want to make sure :) [[User:Fallen Sheep|Fallen Sheep]] ([[User talk:Fallen Sheep|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

:No, they should not be merged, this would result in a bunch of constraint violations. [[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:00, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
== Wikidata’s 12th birthday & decentralized events in October 2024 ==

Hello all,

Every year, the month of October is dedicated to celebrating '''Wikidata’s birthday''', as our favorite Wikimedia project went live on October 29th, 2012. Since then, we’ve been celebrating together the '''achievements of the community,''' bringing together '''active editors and newcomers,''' and taking this opportunity to do outreach and '''bring more people onboard.'''

This year, for Wikidata’s 12th birthday, we would love to see many decentralized community events taking place all around the world in October and November.

Whether you are involved in a local chapter or user group, or in touch with another organization that could organize an event, or simply interested in connecting with other Wikidata editors, we invite you to start thinking about '''organizing a Wikidata birthday event''' in the upcoming months!

[[Wikidata:Twelfth Birthday|'''On the Twelfth Birthday page''']], you will find more information about the birthday and how to organize an event.

'''Wikidata birthday decentralized events''' are organized by local groups within the Wikidata community, onsite as well as online. They can take many forms and can be adapted to the wishes, languages, favorite topics and interests of the local group. It can be for example:

* A meetup / get together with your local/regional community to share a piece of birthday cake ;
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* A “translathon” to improve the labels of Wikidata in your language ;
* A workshop in a library or university to get more people aware of Wikidata ;
* A livestream presentation to showcase interesting tools ;
* …and many other things!

On the [[Wikidata:Twelfth Birthday/Run an event|'''How to run an event page''']], you will find many other examples of events, and you can take inspiration from the past years and what other people have been organizing.

You will also find a communication kit with visuals that you can use to communicate about your event, and instructions on how to add your event to the global schedule.

If you are planning an event for Wikidata’s birthday, you may need some financial support in order to run the event smoothly. [[Wikidata:Twelfth Birthday/Run an event/Funding|'''On the Funding page''']], you will find some useful information about how to get funding, to help your participants join or to provide equipment or refreshments.

What is new this year: Wikimedia Deutschland will run an experiment on providing '''microgrants to fund projects related to the Wikidata birthday'''. These grants, of a maximum amount of 1,000€, will be provided to the selected projects after an application process that is running until September 1st. You also have the option to ask for WMF’s Rapid Fund if the amount or eligibility criteria work better for you. You will find all the information about how to apply and what to prepare [[Wikidata:Twelfth Birthday/Run an event/Funding|on the Funding page]].

If you are interested in organizing an event, we strongly encourage you to '''do it together with other people'''. We suggest that you reach out to your local affiliate to get logistical and communication support, or to other Wikidata editors who share similar interests, for example your favorite WikiProject.

You are also very welcome to join the [https://t.me/joinchat/HGjGexK8LA2wJZEk1x1p_A '''Wikidata Events Telegram group'''], in which you will find other community organizers who have been running events in the past and can answer your questions or provide inspiration. On top of that, we are running [[Wikidata:Twelfth Birthday/Run an event#Connect with organizers|'''organizers office hours''']] from July to October: you can join these online meetings to connect with other organizers and ask questions to the coordination team.

I’m looking forward to hearing about your Wikidata birthday events, and I’m available at [mailto:lea.lacroix_ext@wikimedia.de lea.lacroix_ext@wikimedia.de] if you have any questions.

Best, [[User:Lea Lacroix (WMDE)|Lea Lacroix (WMDE)]] ([[User talk:Lea Lacroix (WMDE)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:58, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

== empty items relating to EuroGames 2024 Vienna ==

Please do not delete empty items that are part of action on '''EuroGames 2024 Vienna''' as we have live event (with new contributors) for next 5 days and many sub-categories will be populated even if you find them empty. Thank you for understanding on behalf of #WikiLovesPride organizers. -- [[User:Zblace|Zblace]] ([[User talk:Zblace|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:17, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

== How merge items ? ==

Hi guys,
Can you tell me how merge these two items refearing to the same thing : Q51639 & Q15217318 ? [[User:Laszlo|Laszlo]] ([[User talk:Laszlo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:37, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

:Hello, these two objects cannot be merged, since they have sitelinks to
:* [[:d:Q51639]] - 46 
:* [[:d:Q15217318]] - 23 
:articles, which would leed to a conflict. Two objects only can be merged, if there is only at maximum one article per language version. [[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:45, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

== Wikimedia Movement Charter ratification voting results ==

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Hello everyone,

After carefully tallying both individual and affiliate votes, the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Charter/Ratification/Voting#Electoral Commission|Charter Electoral Commission]] is pleased to announce the final results of the Wikimedia Movement Charter voting.  

As [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Talk:Movement Charter#Thank you for your participation in the Movement Charter ratification vote!|communicated]] by the Charter Electoral Commission, we reached the quorum for both Affiliate and individual votes by the time the vote closed on '''July 9, 23:59 UTC'''. We thank all 2,451 individuals and 129 Affiliate representatives who voted in the ratification process. Your votes and comments are invaluable for the future steps in Movement Strategy.

The final results of the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Movement Charter|Wikimedia Movement Charter]] ratification voting held between 25 June and 9 July 2024 are as follows: 

'''Individual vote:'''

Out of 2,451 individuals who voted as of July 9 23:59 (UTC), 2,446 have been accepted as valid votes. Among these, '''1,710''' voted “yes”; '''623''' voted “no”; and '''113''' selected “–” (neutral). Because the neutral votes don’t count towards the total number of votes cast, 73.30% voted to approve the Charter (1710/2333), while 26.70% voted to reject the Charter (623/2333).

'''Affiliates vote:'''

Out of 129 Affiliates designated voters who voted as of July 9 23:59 (UTC), 129 votes are confirmed as valid votes. Among these, '''93''' voted “yes”; '''18''' voted “no”; and '''18''' selected “–” (neutral). Because the neutral votes don’t count towards the total number of votes cast, 83.78% voted to approve the Charter (93/111), while 16.22% voted to reject the Charter (18/111).

'''Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation:'''

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees voted '''not to ratify''' the proposed Charter during their special Board meeting on July 8, 2024. The Chair of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees, Nataliia Tymkiv, [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/Board_resolution_and_vote_on_the_proposed_Movement_Charter|shared the result of the vote, the resolution, meeting minutes and proposed next steps]].  

With this, the Wikimedia Movement Charter in its current revision is '''not ratified'''.

We thank you for your participation in this important moment in our movement’s governance.

The Charter Electoral Commission,

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== Create Event coordinators rights group (or just change rights set for current Account creators group) ==

Hi, I proposed to create a new Event coordinators rights group (or just change rights set for current Account creators group) for those who don't use outreach dashboard for promotional events. Please check [[Wikidata:Requests for comment/Clarify Wikidata:Account creators abilities and where to request#New proposal]], thank you!--[[User:S8321414|S8321414]] ([[User talk:S8321414|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

== SPARQL query to sum number of seats of lower houses ==

Hi all, I am a bit new to Wikidata, and to SPARQL even more. I created {{Q|127603696}} to specifically list all relevant lower houses in the EU (and the matching {{Q|127603941}}). I am now trying to find a way to sum the {{P|1342}} of each of these lower houses. I tried my luck with the [[Wikidata_talk:SPARQL_tutorial]] and the Wikidata Query Service, and even asked on the live chat, but was not able to find the solution, which I believe should not be too complicated. A side question is: how can I then use this query as a figure on Wikipedia? I am trying to replace a string of manually-entered figures there (which would be good since the number of seats of lower houses is otherwise hard to keep track of). [[User:Julius Schwarz|Julius Schwarz]] ([[User talk:Julius Schwarz|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

:The folks at [[Wikidata:Request_a_query]] are very helpful [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:50, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
::Much appreciated, thank you! [[User:Julius Schwarz|Julius Schwarz]] ([[User talk:Julius Schwarz|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:50, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
== Casualty counts - include perpetrators? ==

Greetings,

Over on [[Talk:Q127421251#Casualty count]] I'm questioning our method of tallying the count of victims/casualties/injuries. Currently over there (and other items such as {{Q|Q24561572}}, the casualties are tallied with both {{P|1011}} and {{P|1012}} qualifiers. Personally, I feel this is somewhat unwieldy that we're maintaining and referencing two parallel datasets, where one value can be inferred from the others.

Is there consensus, or a lack thereof, on how to count these? Has there been any prior discussion or dispute in this area? Should we take cues from established decisions such as enwiki's? [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:12, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Trade|Trade]] now insists that any {{P|8031}} does not count as a {{P|P8032}} and that these qualities are, in fact, mutually exclusive. In fact to the point that they seemed quite upset that I would even imply that Crooks was some sort of victim in all this.
:My common sense says that he is indeed a "shooting victim" as well as "homicide victim" (justifiable as it was, homicide is still homicide). Consensus appears to disagree with my opinion, but it'd be good to hear some more opinions on that point as well. (In fact some of the other items I checked even excluded perpetrators who committed suicide, which sure as hell seems like victimhood to me. In fact I could boldly argue that most of these type events are "suicide by cop" situation that few perps wver intended to survive.) [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:00, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
::Use {{P|1345}} and {{P|1120}} without qualifiers, the difference being 1. {{P|1590}} is fairly useless if we insist on recording minor injuries, but then the ear is consequential, the ankle is not. It is distasteful to label perpetrators as victims. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:51, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
:::I can see your perspective here, because obviously this incident involved one very bad man against many heavily armed good guys. The bad man doesn't deserve victimhood and it was totally legal to gun him down in the act. He got what he deserved?
:::* [[:wiktionary:victim]]
:::So let's explore another few corner cases.
:::* {{Q|Q338389}} was driving while intoxicated at 117mph. Now that's clearly a criminal offense in itself and has potential for vehicular manslaughter and worse, right? So in the process of perpetrating a crime, the police beat him mercilessly, which was found, in a court of law much later, to be a crime in itself. So with hindsight 20/20, who's a perpetrator and who's a victim for that event?
:::* {{Q|Q298364}} was an extremely prolific and brutal serial killer who was killed in prison. Was Dahmer still a perpetrator at the time of death, or a defenseless victim? Don't forget that Dahmer was really bad and perhaps Scarver considered him deserving of death, although the courts couldn't obtain that sort of justice at the time.
:::* {{Q|Q48745}} was fatally shot by {{Q|Q192519}} who wasn't law enforcement and probably also a bad man. Was Oswald a victim at that point? Would that change if Ruby had been a badge-wearing Good Guy instead?
:::* {{Q|Q302}} was a dangerous revolutionary/heretic figure. He was justly tried by the Sanhedrin as well as the Imperial authority and a death sentence was duly carried out, in order to minimize the harm that could come to Israel or Rome because of his teachings. Who knows how many victims that perpetrator could've racked up in 2000 years?! The State+Church also took care of perpetrators in the {{Q|Q51657}} and {{Q|Q7226}}. Whew.
:::* Lastly, consider the recent anniversary of the {{Q|Q1356047}}. The Romanovs were ruling Russia, with the Divine Right of Kings and legal succession. They enjoyed every prerogative of state power and they really used it! They were also brutally executed: tsar, wife and children. How many should be listed as victims, how many cannot be considered victims at all, and how many perpetrators were killed that day?
:::I hope that these horrific examples drive home a point or two about the intrinsic humanity and equality of these "bad guys". I sincerely hope that we here can neutrally and dispassionately discern victimhood of a violent act, apart from perpetration of an evil crime, because IMHO, the latter does not preclude the former in any way. 
:::Oh, I'd be willing to bet that nobody is willing to list the Secret Service agents as "perpetrators", and that's a harder question, because "perpetration" connotes/implies something illegal, but strictly speaking, they were belligerents and combatants in this fracas just as much as Crooks was, and indeed deserve the badge of victimhood for injuries. It's just not so easy when you try to carve a moat of "bad guy" around some of the casualties in any given event. And that's the intent here, after all: you need to label some "good" and some "bad" and a "bad person" can't be labeled "victim" because that evokes sympathy and defenselessness for you, even though you just read the dictionary definition of the word.
:::If you want to use {{P|1345}} as suggested, that's great, because "killer" is a morally neutral term to describe Secret Service agents! So how many killers were there? Did only one agent perforate Crooks, or was there a whole firing squad involved?
:::If y'all want to subclass this down to "innocent victims", or "defenseless victims", or "court-adjudicated victims", by all means go ahead, but a shooting victim is a shooting victim, at the end of the day, whether they went out in a blaze of glory or had an ignominious end. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:59, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
::::You're over-thinking. For each illegal event (and for that purpose we exclude most acts of war, as barring agreed war crimes, they are legal) within the jurisdiction at the time, we have perpetrators and victims. We don't assess the moral status of the people involved, branches of the state acting under legal authority cannot be perpetrators. {{P|1345}} should have killer changed to perpetrator. As you work more with WD you will realise life is messy, and its a big mistake to try and handle edge cases by complicating the more straightforward examples. This is a classic computer programmer weakness. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:35, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::So if "branches of the state" cannot be perpetrators then you're using a narrow and legal definition of that. Also we see an attempt to narrow other terms like "homicide" and "victim" but the definitions we work with, and the qualities of the properties and items here, belie those usages.
:::::Y'all can't have it both ways. Semantics and edge cases ARE extremely important. Wikidata is perfectly capable of modeling a lot of messy stuff until humans insert emotions and moral judgement and become irrational and biased about this stuff. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
:Seems to be an argument around semantics. As for whether you should count the shooter among the dead, why not? If it's properly qualified, who cares either way? The more interesting discussion centers around whether you should list the perpetrator among the victims and I tend to agree with Trade here. The words imply guilt or innocence. Homicide also implies a killing was unlawful as opposed to a justified killing. Now there may indeed by cases where these are not mutually exclusive, if someone puts a gun to their own head and fires they are presumably both. One also need to take into account the context here. Trump was a victim by the shooting by Crooks, while Crooks was not a victim by that same action. The two killings/attempts were related, but not based on the same action. [[User:Infrastruktur|Infrastruktur]] ([[User talk:Infrastruktur|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
::Correct: we do not judge an individual's morality when assessing victimhood. Nor is the term "homicide" a moral judgement: while it carries a connotation of illegality or "murder" it has a more inclusive definition. Crooks' death was a homicide equal to Comperatore's; LEO's injured ankle was a victim/casualty in this well-defined event, and Crooks himself is unambiguously a victim of shooting/homicide. Any arguments against these semantics rely on emotion, bias, or moral judgement. I have no idea how an "illegal act" changes anything (see my list of examples: there are more where that came from)
::This event encompasses more than "guy takes gun and shoots it" this was a rally with security and multiple actors in a shootout situation. An injured ankle casualty is a victim of the event due to direct involvement, not Crooks' gun. Crooks paid the price of his action becoming a shooting/homicide victim. No judgement and he didn't turn on himself, but this event is more than "bad guy shoots orange man's ear." Thank you. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:55, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

== Zebra swallowtail / scientific names ==

Am I right in thinking that two scientific names for the [[:w:zebra swallowtail]] should be separate items, even if they are the exact same subject? And that Wikipedia articles should be moved to one of the two items depending on what their title is?

The items are {{Q|3016214}} and {{Q|21163005}}. I notice that the English Wikipedia article has a different title than all the others. [[Special:Contributions/136.152.209.67|136.152.209.67]] 20:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
== Start time/end time of logos ==

[[Special:Diff/2208054935]] gave a ''single-value constraint'' warning. Should it be done some other way? The logo was used, then replaced, then changed back again. [[User:Jonteemil|Jonteemil]] ([[User talk:Jonteemil|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:56, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Jonteemil|Jonteemil]] there are two {{P|580}} [[User:RVA2869|RVA2869]] ([[User talk:RVA2869|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
::Well, yeah? There ''are''. [[User:Jonteemil|Jonteemil]] ([[User talk:Jonteemil|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:41, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
::: {{ping|Jonteemil}} Constraint violation warnings are advisory, not mandatory. If you are aware of a small number of exceptions to a constraint you can add them I think in property documentation to remove the warning. If there are a large number of violations then maybe the constraint is wrong and should be removed - discuss on the property talk page. [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:15, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
::::The question was if I had done it correctly, because the display isn't really that optimal. It should be more like: ''1905-2017, 2022-'', the first end time should be shown before the second start time, otherwise it looks weird, like it does now. [[User:Jonteemil|Jonteemil]] ([[User talk:Jonteemil|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:48, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::Just have two statements about the same logo with different time. --[[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::Wasn't that what I tried to do? [[User:Jonteemil|Jonteemil]] ([[User talk:Jonteemil|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:41, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::::This is what I mean: [[Special:PermaLink/2208672948#P154]]. Free of any warnings. --[[User:Matěj Suchánek|Matěj Suchánek]] ([[User talk:Matěj Suchánek|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:10, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

== Question about properties ==

Are we now creating properties to reference aspirational projects with no more that a few hundred links, but with the intention of having more? Because I always assumed about a thousand was sort of the bottom limit. I opposed this one and just received a notice it was created {{P|P12902}} [[User:Jane023|Jane023]] ([[User talk:Jane023|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:36, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
:[[Help:Properties#Creating_properties|The recommendation]] is to decline properties that can't be used on more than 100 items. If it's not above this, then votes doesn't matter. [[User:Infrastruktur|Infrastruktur]] ([[User talk:Infrastruktur|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:19, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks I thought the limit was 1000. I will try to remember 100 from now on. [[User:Jane023|Jane023]] ([[User talk:Jane023|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

== Preventing bad merges ==

I patrol [[Wikidata:Database reports/items with P569 greater than P570]] and reverse bad merges where the birth and death dates do not match triggering an entry in the report. Is there any way we can add a warning during the merge process when the birth, and or, the death dates are off by at least 3 years? It would cause the person merging to double check that they have the correct person. At Familysearch you get a warning when this occurs, it would be helpful here. [[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:20, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
== Bug: Facebook pages URL are wrong ==

Every politian (and maybe every popular person) that has a Facebook page there is the field to add the username, let's say "myusername".  The bug is that Wikidata is adding "/page" in the URL so it's pointing to facebook.com'''/page'''/myusername and it's a 404 not found error. Example: [[Q4137510]]

I don't know how to get rid of "/page/" in the URL. I might be wrong but I think this is a global Wikidata bug. [[Special:Contributions/2802:8012:5319:FF00:ECA1:37BC:3D5D:99CE|2802:8012:5319:FF00:ECA1:37BC:3D5D:99CE]] 07:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

:Verification of your claim failed in my case. The corresponding URL formater is correct and does not seem to have been changed recently. —[[User:Mykhal|Mykhal]] ([[User talk:Mykhal|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:02, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
:… and if you mean at eswiki(pedia) for the example ([[w:es:special:permalink/161133949#Enlaces_externos|here]]), it's not related to wikidata; and I also cannot confirm trailing slash being a problem. —[[User:Mykhal|Mykhal]] ([[User talk:Mykhal|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:10, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
::There are five properties with "Facebook" in the name, and the identifier in Q4137510 correctly uses {{P|2013}}, but [[Q4137510#P856]] had {{P|4003}} (with "/pages/" in the URL) in the references, which I changed to {{P|2013}}. [[User:Peter James|Peter James]] ([[User talk:Peter James|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Thank you very much. I confirm that now is working correctly. [[Special:Contributions/190.176.187.23|190.176.187.23]] 10:21, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

== All (but 1) UEFA teams since 1960 now link to players ==

Wanted to share the result of some work I recently undertook to link all UEFA teams (eg {{Q|124150793}}) since the championship began in 1960 to the players that played on their teams. This was a semi-automated approach where I copied player tables on the French or German Wikipedia pages, used a [https://codepen.io/cdrini/full/MWMwPQv custom little interface] to convert them to QuickStatements which added the links to Wikidata. Some were already there, but in total there are now 4695 linkages! Besides the player themselves, some teams also have extra information, like player position, number of games played, goals scored, or jersey number. But these weren't consistently present on the Wikipedia pages themselves, so aren't always present.

Here are some SPARQL queries to explore the results:

* [https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fteam%20%3FteamLabel%20%28year%28%3Fpoint_in_time%29%20as%20%3Fyear%29%20%3FplayerLabel%20%3FplayerBirth%20%28%3Fyear%20-%20year%28%3FplayerBirth%29%20as%20%3FplayerAge%29%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fteam%20%20wdt%3AP31%2Fwdt%3AP279%20wd%3AQ115647787.%0A%20%20%3Fteam%20wdt%3AP710%20%3Fplayer.%0A%20%20%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fplayer%20wdt%3AP569%20%3FplayerBirth%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fteam%20wdt%3AP1344%2Fwdt%3AP585%20%3Fuefa_pot.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fteam%20wdt%3AP585%20%3Fteam_pot.%20%7D%0A%20%20BIND%28IF%28bound%28%3Fuefa_pot%29%2C%20%3Fuefa_pot%2C%20%3Fteam_pot%29%20AS%20%3Fpoint_in_time%29%0A%20%20%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%0A%0A All players that have taken part with their age]
* [https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fteam%20%3FteamLabel%20%28year%28%3Fpoint_in_time%29%20as%20%3Fyear%29%20%3Fplayers%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fteam%20%20wdt%3AP31%2Fwdt%3AP279%20wd%3AQ115647787.%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20SELECT%20%3Fteam%20%28count%28%3Fplayer%29%20as%20%3Fplayers%29%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Fteam%20%20wdt%3AP31%2Fwdt%3AP279%20wd%3AQ115647787.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%3Fteam%20wdt%3AP710%20%3Fplayer.%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%20GROUP%20BY%20%3Fteam%0A%20%20%7D%0A%20%20%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fteam%20wdt%3AP1344%2Fwdt%3AP585%20%3Fuefa_pot.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fteam%20wdt%3AP585%20%3Fteam_pot.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Farticle_fr%20%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fteam%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20schema%3AinLanguage%20%22fr%22.%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%20%3Farticle_de%20%20schema%3Aabout%20%3Fteam%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20schema%3AinLanguage%20%22de%22.%0A%20%20%20%20%7D%0A%20%20BIND%28IF%28bound%28%3Fuefa_pot%29%2C%20%3Fuefa_pot%2C%20%3Fteam_pot%29%20AS%20%3Fpoint_in_time%29%0A%20%20%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%20ORDER%20BY%20asc%28%3Fyear%29 All teams with the number of players on the team]
* [https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fteam%20%3FteamLabel%20%28year%28%3Fpoint_in_time%29%20as%20%3Fyear%29%20%3FplayerLabel%20%3FplayerBirth%20%28%3Fyear%20-%20year%28%3FplayerBirth%29%20as%20%3FplayerAge%29%20%3FpositionLabel%20%3FjerseyNumber%20%3Fgames%20%3Fgoals%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fteam%20%20wdt%3AP31%2Fwdt%3AP279%20wd%3AQ115647787.%0A%20%20%3Fteam%20p%3AP710%20%3FplayerStatement.%0A%20%20%3FplayerStatement%20ps%3AP710%20%3Fplayer.%0A%20%20%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fplayer%20wdt%3AP569%20%3FplayerBirth%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fteam%20wdt%3AP1344%2Fwdt%3AP585%20%3Fuefa_pot.%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fteam%20wdt%3AP585%20%3Fteam_pot.%20%7D%0A%20%20BIND%28IF%28bound%28%3Fuefa_pot%29%2C%20%3Fuefa_pot%2C%20%3Fteam_pot%29%20AS%20%3Fpoint_in_time%29%0A%20%20%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3FplayerStatement%20pq%3AP413%20%3Fposition%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3FplayerStatement%20pq%3AP1618%20%3FjerseyNumber%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3FplayerStatement%20pq%3AP1350%20%3Fgames%20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3FplayerStatement%20pq%3AP1351%20%3Fgoals%20%7D%0A%20%20%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%7D%0A%0A Extra, but inconsistent data like position, etc]

There is one team which I haven't completed, {{Q|Q115647657}}, which is peculiarly the ''only'' team that does not have a French or German Wikipedia page! If I can find data for that somewhere, will import it as well.

Cheers, [[User:Hardwigg|Hardwigg]] ([[User talk:Hardwigg|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:21, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
:It's the only team with no French article, but there is {{Q|1318209}} in German and Ukrainian. [[User:Peter James|Peter James]] ([[User talk:Peter James|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:30, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
::Oh fantastic, thank you for merging! Just ran the quickstatement import; now it's all! [[User:Hardwigg|Hardwigg]] ([[User talk:Hardwigg|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
== How are images selected? ==

I am rather new to Wikidata so forgive me. How are images selected for items? If it is just up to random volunteers, how are disputes resolved? I am looking at {{Q|126181232}}. [[User:Commander Keane|Commander Keane]] ([[User talk:Commander Keane|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

:It is up to random volunteers, if there is edit-warring it should be resolved via usual means. [[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
: See related discussion, at [[:c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bupuro-chan.png]]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 16:16, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

== Gabon - description ==

Hello everyone, can you change the description of Gabon. It's a country located in central Africa not in Western Africa. Thanks ! [[User:Apipo1907|Apipo1907]] ([[User talk:Apipo1907|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
== Multiple national versions of one name - how to manage iwiki ==

Hello, I made today Czech Wikipedia article [[Q127686635]] (and Wikidata item) but on Wikidata is unclear situation. This name has Slavic equivalents: [[Q11763130]], [[Q13566215]], [[Q100376113]], [[Q100376283]], maybe even more. I got it, every variant should have its own Wikidata item because it has its own transliteration, language, script etc. But what I didnt got - How to manage iwiki? Its not possible to have for example in Czech Wikipedia own article for every single variant of this name. We have one common article for all wariants. So how to manage iwiki? Now I made it by adding all of Wikipedia pages to only one Wikidata item of only one name variant: [[Q13566215]]. But is it correct? Does exist any more clear, systematic solution? For example I feel the best way would be to leave all Wikipedia links in correct Wikidata item, but have possibility to say to system "these items are iwiki related" and then more Wikidata items will be connected in iwiki section on Wikipedia. Thank you for your opinions and experiences. [[User:Palu|Palu]] ([[User talk:Palu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:08, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

:Adding links to different variants to one item is simply not correct. Revert these changes, simply use old style interwiki. See [[Wikidata:WikiProject Names]] for more insight. [[User:Jklamo|Jklamo]] ([[User talk:Jklamo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:02, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, not correct, but have no iwiki is also not correct. OK, old-style wiki is possible, but for me also not correct (not systematic). But it looks there is no better solution. Maybe later will arise...? --[[User:Palu|Palu]] ([[User talk:Palu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:06, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
::: {{ping|Jklamo}} Old style interwiki should be considered deprecated way to represent the information. Instead, it should be solved via sitelinks to redirects.--[[User:GZWDer|GZWDer]] ([[User talk:GZWDer|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Yes, thank you very much. [[Q127686635|Here]] is example and works great. --[[User:Palu|Palu]] ([[User talk:Palu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:06, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::[[User:GZWDer|GZWDer]]: But what I have to say - its pity that you have to make it for every one wikipedia extra. Now Czech works well, you can see links to others, but from others you cant. If you want, you have add every redirect links to every Wikidata item. And it is quite hard to manage, especially when there is many linked Wikidata items. And it is hard to maintain in time (pages are changing and you have to change every single Wikidata item extra). --[[User:Palu|Palu]] ([[User talk:Palu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:09, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Same situation: [[Q58710354]]. 3 different Wikidata item, each has own Wikipedia article, iwiki not working. --[[User:Palu|Palu]] ([[User talk:Palu|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:51, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

== New "mul" term language code on Wikidata ==

(This [SIGNIFICANT Change Announcement] is relevant for all Wikidata users working with Labels and Aliases.)

Hello,

You may recall our [[listarchive:list/wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org/message/MB2JU52ZTF2RSA6MZIQJUXAMGZ76BFHK/|previous announcement]] inviting you to test out the “default values for all languages” feature, introducing the language code "mul" for labels and aliases, on https://test.wikidata.org. I'm pleased to announce that we are now proceeding with a limited release on Wikidata. This feature will be available for testing starting July 29.

'''Note of Caution and Tips for Testing'''
* To try out the new feature during this limited release, you need to add the language code “mul” to your [[Wikidata:Userboxes#Babel|Babel boxes]]. A full release will follow on the week of August 12, displaying default values to everyone by default.
* Please refrain from starting any Bot-runs for mul during the limited release. We will use this limited release to test the performance and verify that everything works as planned. Bot-runs for mul should only commence after the full feature is released.
* Please also test the [[Help:Default values for labels and aliases|help page]] explaining how to use the feature. It will be important to get this help page right, as the full release will initially contain an onboarding element that guides people to this help page.

I would like to thank everyone who has participated in the previous testing phases or provided feedback thus far. We are eager to hear more from you during this limited release. Please do not hesitate to reach out with questions or concerns on the [[Help talk:Default values for labels and aliases|talk page of the Help page]], or for technical details, in this Phabricator ticket ([[phab:T356169]])

There has also been some discussion on the [[Help talk:Default values for labels and aliases#Strange wording|help page]] regarding the copy used for the language. We would like to reach a consensus before the full release. Join the discussion to add your thoughts and input on the thread. This week, a survey will be included in the Weekly Summary for those who prefer to provide anonymous feedback.

Cheers! -[[User:Mohammed Abdulai (WMDE)|Mohammed Abdulai (WMDE)]] ([[User talk:Mohammed Abdulai (WMDE)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:00, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

== How to model crimes ==

See: {{Q|Q844495}} where the crime is modeled multiple ways, what is the standard way we are going to harmonize on? [[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

== Wikidata weekly summary #637 ==

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''' Discussions '''
* New requests for permissions/Bot:
** [[d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/DannyS712 bot|DannyS712 bot]] - Task/s: I want to get approval for a bot with translation admin rights that will automatically mark pages for translations if and only if the latest version is identical to the version that is already in the translation system, i.e. only pages with no "net" changes in the pending edits.
** [[d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/DerIchBot|DerIchBot]] - Task/s: Adding data about schools provided by the German and Austrian governments to wikidata.
** [[d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/DifoolBot 5|DifoolBot 5]] - Task/s: Change reference URLs into the related ID property and merge references with the same ID property.
** [[d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/AroundTheBot|AroundTheBot]] - Task/s: Automated import of Albanian nouns with IPA from Wiktionary, with the long-term goal of using this data to do pronunciation-based comparison/word evolution between languages.

''' [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Events|Events]] '''
* Past: Wikimedia Indonesia hosted [[Commons:Commons:Kompetisi Penyajian Data 2024|the 2024 Data Visualization Competition]] from June 5 to 18. The event featured data visualizations (posters and graphics) and short essays using data from Wikidata. Visit [[Commons:Commons:Kompetisi Penyajian Data 2024|the competition page]] (in Indonesian) to view the winning entries.
* Upcoming: Wikidata's 12th birthday decentralized events will take place in October and November 2024. Feel free to browse [[d:Wikidata:Twelfth Birthday|the documentation pages]] to learn how to organize an event in your area, get funding, and get in touch with other organizers.

''' Press, articles, blog posts, videos '''
* Papers:
** [[d:Q126917814|Representación de datos abiertos con Wikidata Query Service (Q126917814)]]. This paper details the Wikidata Query Service, for the creation of data visualizations. All visualization options available in the WQS are explored, accompanied by example queries that introduce the implementation of these visualizations. By Ángel Obregón-Sierra and Silvia Cecilia Anselmi.
** [https://arxiv.org/pdf/2407.06863 Beyond Aesthetics: Cultural Competence in Text-to-Image Models] - with CUBE, a benchmark built out of Wikidata, to evaluate cultural awareness and cultural diversity of text-to-image models (Kannen et al, 2024)
* Videos: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xsCXkOA2Zs OpenRefine import into Wikidata of data from the BnF catalog: books by Marguerite Van de Wiele] (in French)

''' Tool of the week '''
* [https://paulina.toolforge.org/ Paulina], a new tool for exploring public domain works.

''' Other Noteworthy Stuff '''
* [[m:Product and Technology Advisory Council/Proposal|WMF Product and Technology Advisory Council (PTAC)]] invites interested volunteers to apply. As part of the movement strategy recommendation for "Coordinating Across Stakeholders," the PTAC will bring technical contributors and the Wikimedia Foundation together to co-define a more resilient, future-proof technological platform.

''' Newest [[d:Special:ListProperties|properties]] and [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Property proposal|property proposals]] to review '''

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* Newest General datatypes:
**[[:d:Property:P12849|coin edge image]] (<nowiki>image or images that show the edge of a coin</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12853|ozone depletion potential]] (<nowiki>relative amount of degradation to the ozone layer relative to CFC-11</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12861|EntitySchema for class]] (<nowiki>schema that members of a class should conform to</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12876|writing technique]] (<nowiki>technique used for writing on stone, paper or other support</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12878|last appearance]] (<nowiki>last work featuring a fictional character or item</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12883|Tüik mahalle ID]] (<nowiki>identifier of neighborhoods (mahalle) in Turkey in TÜİK (Turkish Statistical Institute) database</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12886|Sandbox-EntitySchema]] (<nowiki>Sandbox property for value of type "EntitySchema"</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12889|myfixguide.com Category ID]] (<nowiki>photos about how to repair hardware</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12895|indexer]] (<nowiki>entity responsible for compiling an index of a book, database, website or other forms of media publications in the form of a methodical arrangement of records designed to enable users to locate information quickly</nowiki>)
* Newest External identifiers: [[:d:Property:P12833|English-Irish Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12834|PMC journal ID]], [[:d:Property:P12835|Census ID]], [[:d:Property:P12836|Douban personage ID]], [[:d:Property:P12837|Avibase person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12838|Brezhoneg21 ID]], [[:d:Property:P12839|European Education Thesaurus ID]], [[:d:Property:P12840|‎Cineuropa distributor ID]], [[:d:Property:P12841|‎Cineuropa production company ID]], [[:d:Property:P12842|OpenCitations Meta ID]], [[:d:Property:P12843|IGN franchise ID]], [[:d:Property:P12844|Federal Reserve Subject Taxonomy ID]], [[:d:Property:P12845|Farhang-i forsī ba rusī ID]], [[:d:Property:P12846|Devri ID]], [[:d:Property:P12847|Cambridge University Press ID]], [[:d:Property:P12848|Canadian Virtual War Memorial ID]], [[:d:Property:P12850|Personnel Records of the First World War ID]], [[:d:Property:P12851|Fowler’s Concise Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12852|NooSFere publisher ID]], [[:d:Property:P12854|Plex person key]], [[:d:Property:P12855|BHMPI OBJ ID]], [[:d:Property:P12856|Index Fungorum person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12857|stiga.trefik.cz player ID]], [[:d:Property:P12858|UNIBO professor ID]], [[:d:Property:P12859|Cineuropa international sales agent ID]], [[:d:Property:P12860|Mapes de Patrimoni Cultural ID]], [[:d:Property:P12862|Il Nuovo DOP ID]], [[:d:Property:P12863|RGALI person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12864|RGALI organization ID]], [[:d:Property:P12865|Archelec person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12866|Lojas com História ID]], [[:d:Property:P12867|milononline.net entry ID]], [[:d:Property:P12868|Hebrew Academy term ID]], [[:d:Property:P12869|LAGL author ID]], [[:d:Property:P12870|KANAL ID]], [[:d:Property:P12871|Google Play author ID]], [[:d:Property:P12872|‎Overcast episode ID]], [[:d:Property:P12873|ArchWiki article]], [[:d:Property:P12874|Valencian Library ID]], [[:d:Property:P12875|‎Star Wars.com ID]], [[:d:Property:P12877|ScienceDirect journal ID]], [[:d:Property:P12879|Filmová databáze film ID]], [[:d:Property:P12880|Filmová databáze person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12881|FC Krasnodar player ID]], [[:d:Property:P12882|Iraqnla book ID]], [[:d:Property:P12884|Alle Burgen ID]], [[:d:Property:P12885|Italian-English Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12887|islamway authority ID]], [[:d:Property:P12888|Metamath statement ID]], [[:d:Property:P12890|Imperial University of Dorpat student ID]], [[:d:Property:P12891|Coptic Dictionary Online ID]], [[:d:Property:P12892|English-Italian Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12893|autoritateak.eus ID]], [[:d:Property:P12894|Museum of the Russian Academy of Arts artist ID]], [[:d:Property:P12896|Nintendo Life company ID]], [[:d:Property:P12897|Wiley Online Library journal ID]], [[:d:Property:P12898|Museums in Russia ID]], [[:d:Property:P12899|Helveticat ID]], [[:d:Property:P12900|ARABTERM entry ID]], [[:d:Property:P12901|Hawramani Arabic Lexicon entry ID]], [[:d:Property:P12902|Women in Resistance ID]]
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* New General datatypes property proposals to review:
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/date de vote|date de vote]] (<nowiki>vote date, date on which people decided or cast their ballot</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/object of action & object class of action|object of action & object class of action]] (<nowiki>specific object to which an action or class of actions occurs</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Public funding|Public funding]] (<nowiki>amount of public funding an organisation receives</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/schmeckt nach|schmeckt nach]] (<nowiki>taste that a food or drink has</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Kunstnerforbundet kunstner ID|Kunstnerforbundet kunstner ID]] (<nowiki>Identifier for an artist member of Kunstnerforbundet in norway</nowiki>)
* New External identifier property proposals to review: [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: German-English ID|Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: German-English ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: French-English ID|Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: French-English ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Manhom Arabic Profile ID|Manhom Arabic Profile ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/WorldCyclingStats ID|WorldCyclingStats ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Thinkwiki article|Thinkwiki article]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/identifier of the educational center of resistance and deportation of Landes|identifier of the educational center of resistance and deportation of Landes]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/SideReel series ID|SideReel series ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/SideReel series URL slug|SideReel series URL slug]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/africanmusiclibrary.org artist id|africanmusiclibrary.org artist id]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/The New Mithraeum ID|The New Mithraeum ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Stichting Erfgoed Nederlandse Biercultuur beer ID|Stichting Erfgoed Nederlandse Biercultuur beer ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Taylor & Francis journal ID|Taylor & Francis journal ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/JTA Sightseeing Database ID|JTA Sightseeing Database ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Emerald Group Publishing journal ID|Emerald Group Publishing journal ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Finnish Ministers database ID (new)|Finnish Ministers database ID (new)]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Glosbe Old High German Lexeme ID|Glosbe Old High German Lexeme ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Tretyakov Gallery artist ID|Tretyakov Gallery artist ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/State Historical Museum of Russia person ID|State Historical Museum of Russia person ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/U.S. Copyright Office Public Records System work ID|U.S. Copyright Office Public Records System work ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Encyclopaedia of Islam (french edition) ID|Encyclopaedia of Islam (french edition) ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/French Bathing water ID|French Bathing water ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Religion Past and Present Online (German edition) ID|Religion Past and Present Online (German edition) ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/mandumah ID|mandumah ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: English-German ID|Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: English-German ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: English-French ID|Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: English-French ID]]
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You can comment on [[d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Overview|all open property proposals]]!

''' Did you know? '''
* Query examples:
** [https://w.wiki/Aj37 UEFA teams and the number of players on the team] ([[d:Wikidata:Project_chat#All_(but_1)_UEFA_teams_since_1960_now_link_to_players|source]])
** [https://w.wiki/AhtV Species of birds and their sounds] ([https://x.com/espejolento/status/1814353851253735846 source])
** [https://w.wiki/AhGu Archaeological sites and remains in Malaysia with National Heritage status] ([https://x.com/FarisHzmn/status/1814277712430956614 source])
** [https://w.wiki/AgyC Map of Filming Locations, excludes countries] ([https://x.com/jamesinealing/status/1813662266744815705 source])
* Newest [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:WikiProjects|WikiProjects]]:
** [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject Reference Verification|Reference Verification]] - a research and development project aimed at helping Wikidata editors check the quality of external references based on various types of AI/ML models.
** [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject NZWomenPhotographers|NZWomenPhotographers]] - aims to improve information about New Zealand women photographers, based on a dataset provided by the Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa.
* Newest [[d:Wikidata:Database reports|database reports]]: [[d:Wikidata:Database reports/items with P569=P570|Items with P569=P570]] - Items with instance of (P31) --> human (Q5) and the same year in date of birth (P569) and date of death (P570) (2024-07-22)
* [[d:Wikidata:Showcase items|Showcase Items]]: [[d:Q20731004|Crawford (Q20731004)]] - family name
* [[d:Wikidata:Showcase lexemes|Showcase Lexemes]]: [[d:Lexeme:L3302|water (L3302)]] - (S1) common liquid substance (S2) chemical compound of hydrogen and oxygen (H₂O) (S3) a body of water, usually a river, a lake, or an ocean

''' Development '''
* mul: We fixed the last blocker for the limited MUL rollout to Wikidata on July 29th ([[phab:T362917]])
* EntitySchemas:
** We fixed a misplaced background color in EntitySchema ([[phab:T369283]])
** [[mediawikiwiki:Help:Extension:WikibaseCirrusSearch#Keywords|haswbstatement]] searches now work for EntitySchema statements ([[phab:T369495]])
** We’re investigating how to make EntitySchemas searchable by label ([[phab:T362005]])
* Query Service: preparation for the graph split is continuing by the Search Platform Team. We started looking into adapting the constraints checks for it ([[phab:T369079]])

[[phab:maniphest/query/4RotIcw5oINo/#R|You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here]]. If you want to help, you can also have a look at [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/71/query/zfiRgTnZF7zu/?filter=zfiRgTnZF7zu&order=priority the tasks needing a volunteer].

''' Weekly Tasks '''
* Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed [[d:Wikidata:Status_updates/Next#Newest_properties_and_property_proposals_to_review|above]].
* Contribute to the showcase Item and Lexeme [[d:Wikidata:Status_updates/Next#Did_you_know?|above]].
* Summarize your [[d:Wikidata:Status_updates/Next#Did_you_know?|WikiProject's ongoing activities]] in one or two sentences.
* Help [[d:Special:LanguageStats|translate]] or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
* [[d:User:Pasleim/projectmerge|Help merge identical items]] across Wikimedia projects.
* Help [[d:Wikidata:Status updates/Next|write the next summary!]]
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== Invalid none-of constraint on owned_by ==

{{P|127}} has a {{Q|52558054}} with {{st||2305|Q2767140}} and {{st||P9729|Q668}} qualifier. I think it is incorrect and should be the other way around. [[User:DaxServer|DaxServer]] ([[User talk:DaxServer|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

== Sovereign countries ==

There are several items denoted as 'sovereign countries' http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q3624078 which are probably not, or collide with other entries:

http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q756617

http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q127424576

http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q100748892

http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q124653007

What is the policiy about such items? [[User:AridOcean|AridOcean]] ([[User talk:AridOcean|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

:countries are a can of worms, not only in their definition, and historical layering, but people's strongly held views that the world's power structures should be different to how they are. BTW If you use the Q template you can get the names in the message, as in {{Q|756617}} [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
== Lack of collaboration regarding historical periods ==

What on earth is going on with the gatekeeping at [[Q6495391]] ("late modern period")? I've tried to explain very clearly how this term is a Wikipedia-peddled neologism that isn't actually used by historians. The term itself fails the criteria for [[Wikidata:Notability|notability]] and [[Wikidata:What_Wikidata_is_not|original research]] and the majority of the links here are further extensions of this. I've tried to removed links to articles that obviously don't translate to "early modern" or simply doesn't match the period. Or both! I have been repeatedly reverted purely on unexplained procedural grounds.

I've been told[https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q6495391&diff=2206799389&oldid=2206742097] by @[[User:CFA1877|CFA1877]] to "find a solution" before removing errors and that is just bonkers behavior in my book. I'm trying to correct false equivalents, which is a perfectly natural way of working with Wikimedia projects. If someone tries to translate "lion" as "tiger" here and links the two objects, I can't imagine anyone protesting. I have no idea what problems could be caused by removing objects, but it certainly is a problem if WikiData is hosting false information. If there are problems, it's obviously something that users can suggest their own solutions for.

@[[User:Olea|Olea]] and @[[User:Sofie Geneea|Sofie Geneea]], you're party to this conflict as well. Neither of you have bothered to motivate why you are restoring bad info. How are you justifying your approach to this? [[User:Peter Isotalo|Peter Isotalo]] ([[User talk:Peter Isotalo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

:Taking into account that Q6495391 is used profusely, every time you have deleted all the information from the wikidata item, that information disappeared too in the Commons infoboxes and only "Q6495391" appeared. In the case of Spain, the mention of "Contemporary Age" disappeared. Regarding the historiographical question, I think it can be easily resolved by changing "late modern period" to "Contemporary Age", which is the most used element in Q6495391. But the solution cannot be, in any way, a mass deletion, creating more problems and conflicting with many users. [[User:CFA1877|CFA1877]] ([[User talk:CFA1877|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:35, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
::What Commons infoboxes? Be specific rather than just allude at the issues. [[User:Peter Isotalo|Peter Isotalo]] ([[User talk:Peter Isotalo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:20, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Any of the pages listed at [[commons:Special:EntityUsage/Q6495391]] of which there are over 1000. [[User:William Graham|William Graham]] ([[User talk:William Graham|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:45, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Are all of these assigned to [[Q6495391]] directly? Has it been done manually for all of them? [[User:Peter Isotalo|Peter Isotalo]] ([[User talk:Peter Isotalo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:32, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
:Because Wikidata is structured, sometimes it has more than one item about what some would regard as different definitions of the same thing. For example the subject of [https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/subjects/history/modern-history-ma/ Modern History MA (Honours)] is the "modern period", and the subject of [https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/subjects/history/modern-history-ma/#tab-1 Themes in Late Modern History (c. 1776 - 2001)] is the "modern period", of which the "early modern period" is a part? Although that example is not from Wikidata, there could be statements in Wikidata for which a second item is useful (as well as being necessary for the sitelinks), and although they can have the same label and be distinguished by description, an alternative name can be less confusing whether it's this or another name. Examples of use:[https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Teaching_the_Discipline_of_History_in_an/ejlfDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0][https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Labour_and_the_Wage/TibTDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0][https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Morals_and_Politics/5q-BAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0][https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Selected_Papers/aes-AQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1]. The false information I found was the description of various articles as being about the period starting in 1945 and that was the result of moving the sitelinks without changing the descriptions and statements to match the changed scope of the items. The Commons infoboxes affected are many of the items in [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Q6495391]]; some are buildings and other structures where it is a qualifier in {{P|31}} (example: [[Q1862973#P31]], which was [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q97641882&diff=prev&oldid=1246448330 added to Q97641882] before that item was merged to Q1862973), where it is probably not necessary and would be better not displayed in Commons if years are present (there was also an incorrect {{P|582}} qualifier added at the same time) but there are other statements such as {{P|101}} where a label is useful.  [[User:Peter James|Peter James]] ([[User talk:Peter James|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:57, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
::Historians these days (and probably since the late 1990s) use "modern period" for anything ''after'' the early modern period. In other words "the period we live in now". It's possible that some historians still use "modern period" to everything after the Middle Ages until now, but it's probably quite rare.
::I've never seen a historian describe the early modern period as being "part" of the modern period. Again, that's a Wikipedia-generated misunderstanding. [[User:Peter Isotalo|Peter Isotalo]] ([[User talk:Peter Isotalo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:40, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Let us not omit major schools of thought which propose {{Q|Q4346302}} as well as {{Q|Q2249769}}; these items do not appear to be infected with the conflation of concepts which has caused this dispute. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:53, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
::::I agree. Late modernity and postmodernity are perfectly valid and widely recognized topics in their own right. They just don't correspond to the term "late modern period". [[User:Peter Isotalo|Peter Isotalo]] ([[User talk:Peter Isotalo|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 13:53, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
:::If we asked ten different scholars what defines these periods, what comprises them, what differentiates them, etc. it seems like we would receive ten different answers. Not only would we have different labels for the same thing--we'd have the same labels for different things, and so on.
:::It's a multidisciplinary concern, and so we can't simply consider history, but any scholarship that deals with changes over time, so I can't see a way to satisfy everyone with every need.
:::Perhaps it would help to sample these definitions, get an overview of how they're defined, and work out some diagrams, schemas of how they could be represented through Wikidata. It may result in the restructuring of many items across many wikis, but only a minority of the stakeholders are active here on this project, so a wider/more central venue for discussion would be appropriate. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

== Q15722637 ==

Hi! I wonder if {{Q|15722637}} matches any other Q here. What about {{Q|8109484}}? It is stated to be different from {{Q|7237102}} but it links to the category on Commons that links to {{Q|7237102}}. [[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:57, 23 July 2024 (UTC) fixed to use template [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:13, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
== Proposed Changes to {{P|6553}} ==

===Introduction===
[[Wikidata: WikiProject Personal Pronouns]] has set out to clean up Wikidata’s modeling and implementation of personal pronoun data. This data is currently inconsistent, difficult to query, and frequently inaccurate. What follows is our detailed proposal to remedy this situation, which we hope to implement on July 24, 2024. <br/>
===Background===
* {{P|6553}} is: <br/>
** {{P|31}}: <br/>
*** {{Q|18608871}} <br/>
*** {{Q|63870987}} <br/>
** {{P|1629}}: {{Q|65067284}} <br/>
** Data type: {{Q|111352}} <br/>
** {{P|1659}}: {{P|21}} <br/>
** {{P|8274}} <br/>
*** {{Q|44597997}} <br/>
*** {{Q|44601380}} <br/>
** {{Q|54554025}}: not mandatory <br/>
** {{Q|52004125}}: {{Q|29934200}} <br/>
* The [[Property talk:P6553]] has brought important points to light and we believe reflects consensus on the following proposed changes <br/>

===Problems with {{P|6553}}===
* Messy data modeling and false statements:
** Personal pronouns are modeled as individual lemmas, as pronoun set items, and as items representing individual pronouns
** Values exist which are not third person pronouns at all, but things like honorifics
* Individual pronouns as lexemes don’t account for cases where a principal pronoun isn’t enough to go on to identify a pronoun set (for instance, “[https://en.pronouns.page/ze/zir ze/zir]” vs. “[https://en.pronouns.page/ze ze/hir]”). Therefore, lexemes cannot be consistently implemented with accuracy
* Inferring gender identity based on personal pronouns, and vice versa, is inaccurate and causes disproportionate harm to marginalized groups
** Including “gender” in pronoun property leads to inferring gender based on pronouns
** Wikidata includes {{Q|201413}} (“problem-solving method that is sufficient for quick, short-term solutions/approximations”) related to {{P|6553}} which expressly encourage inferring gender based on personal pronouns or other unrelated data points: {{Q|73168402}} and {{Q|123757526}}
** The idea that personal pronouns are associated with gender identity is not consistently true (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_neutrality_in_genderless_languages gender neutrality in genderless languages])
** There is not consensus that gender can be inferred from personal pronouns
=== Proposed Changes ===
* Change data type from Lexeme to Wikidata Item
* Change allowed value type to {{P|31}} {{Q|65067284}}
* Remove relationship with {{P|21}}
* Remove references to gender in aliases and descriptions of property, because the concepts are not related (gender and pronouns need not agree)
* Delete heuristics {{Q|73168402}} and {{Q|123757526}}

=== Use Cases ===
The following use cases support the need for the proposed data structure. Many more can be provided.
* {{Q|84766127}} they/xe; see [https://x.com/doitlikedua/status/1315366612598480897 Oct 2020 Tweet]
* {{Q|4080459}} – sie/hir, ze/zer
* {{Q|113581}} – [https://rupaulsdragrace.fandom.com/wiki/Conchita_Wurst she/her (in drag) he/him (out of drag)]

=== Implementation Plan ===
==== Scope of Use ====
5,945 items in Wikidata use P6553 (as of 2024-05-29 using [https://w.wiki/5hTP this query])
~60 items have more than one statement/value pair for P6553, so there are a total of 6,005 statements using P6553 (as of 2024-05-29 using [https://w.wiki/5hTX this query]) <br/>

5,920 of these pronoun statements have values that are actually pronouns rather than honorifics, etc. (as of 2024-05-29 using [https://w.wiki/5hTj this query])<br/>

2,296 of these statements have a value of “he” (as of 2024-05-29 using [https://w.wiki/5hTV this query]), 2,595 have a value of “she” (as of 2024-05-29 using [https://w.wiki/5hTa this query]), and 701 have a value of “they” (as of 2024-05-29 using [https://w.wiki/5heW this query]) leaving 328 statements with other values<br/>

All valid P6553 statements have values from a small group of 63 lemmas (as of 2024-05-29 using [https://w.wiki/5hTr this query]) from sixteen languages (as of 2024-05-29 using [https://w.wiki/5hTr this query])<br/>

'''Language-Lemma count chart:'''<br/>
[[File:Distribution of Personal Pronouns Property Values in Wikidata by Language.jpg|Count on left, language on right]]

'''Language-Lemma Count breakdown:'''<br/>
Bokmål/Nynorsk = 4<br/>
Catalan = 3<br/>
Dutch = 5<br/>
English = 14<br/>
Esperanto = 8<br/>
French = 4<br/>
German = 7<br/>
Japanese = 4<br/>
Latin = 1<br/>
Portuguese = 3<br/>
Spanish = 5<br/>
Swedish = 3<br/>
Yiddish = 1<br/>
Yoruba = 1<br/>

==== Partnerships ====
* Initial working hours with the [[Wikidata:WikiProject_LD4_Wikidata_Affinity_Group]] are planned for July and September 2024
* This proposal has previously been discussed with the [[m:Wikimedia LGBT+|Wikimedia LGBT+]] User Group and has their broad support
* This would be a project of [[Wikidata: WikiProject Personal Pronouns]]
==== Data Model ====
* Make changes to Wikidata Property {{P|279}} (proposed above)
* Delete heuristics {{Q|73168402}} {{Q|123757526}}
==== Building Pronoun Sets ====
* Create Wikidata items for personal pronoun sets based on well-modeled metadata in source datasets:
** [https://homosaurus.org/v3/homoit0001135 Homosaurus]
** [https://ontobee.org/ontology/GSSO GSSO]
** Ensure that all pronouns which are used as values of {{P|6553}} are covered
* Use resources to describe and accurately identify pronoun sets:
** Other Wikis, such as [https://pronoun.fandom.com/wiki/Pronoun_Wiki Pronoun Wiki], [https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Main_Page Nonbinary Wiki], [https://data.nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Main_Page Nonbinary Database], [https://gender.fandom.com/wiki/Pronouns Gender Wiki] 
** Pronoun generators, which include examples of use, such as [https://pronoun.is/ Pronoun Island], [https://pronouns.page/ Pronouns.page], and [https://pronouny.xyz/ Pronouny].
==== Data Cleanup ====
* Export all {{P|6553}} statements from Wikidata into OpenRefine
* Divide into several spreadsheets based on the type of issues encountered
* Remove statements without references
* Remove invalid statements, replacing with other properties as feasible (for example, when a value is an honorific, replace with {{P|511}})
* For referenced statements:
** Change value from lexeme or item for a single pronoun to a personal pronoun set based on references given
** Add {{P|5008}}: {{Q|118382780}} to track activity
[[User:Rodriguez.UW|Rodriguez.UW]] ([[User talk:Rodriguez.UW|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:50, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

:{{Strong support}} I fully support these changes and am committed to participating in their implementation. --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
: This is a great idea, I fully support it. [[User:Brimwats|Brimwats]] ([[User talk:Brimwats|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:25, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Clements.UWLib|Clements.UWLib]], are you now [https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata:Project_chat&diff=prev&oldid=2201702045 changing other people's comments] to include {{tlx|Strong support}} templates? I recommend that you revert your modifications, and cease that activity, which is imposing your own interpretations on someone else's contextual words. @[[User:Brimwats|Brimwats]] and the others can speak for themselves, whether their support/opposition is full/strong/weak/whatever, okay? [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:39, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Brimwats|Brimwats]] hi, trying to make it clearer how many supports/opposes we have. Would you make it clear (if you choose)? --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::Forgot to add: {{Strong support}} [[User:Brimwats|Brimwats]] ([[User talk:Brimwats|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:38, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{o}} while its a thread on this page. It needs to be a RFC, and the proposers need to address the concerns raised here when posting one. [[User:Vicarage|Vicarage]] ([[User talk:Vicarage|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:51, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:I also support this project and will be ale to assist in implementing the proposal. [[User:Mferpc|Mferpc]] ([[User talk:Mferpc|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
:This seems like a bad idea. Pronouns are lexicographical data and should exist as lexemes. If the lexeme data is inconsistent, it can and should be improved. Items are not inherently more consistent than lexemes, and creating new entities instead of fixing the existing ones won't make the data better - it will actually result in duplication of data, which then leads to problems with data getting out of sync.
:It's completely possible to have multiple lexemes with the same subject form and different object forms (e.g. {{L|L304659}} vs {{L|L304660}}). If your objection is that the links don't display the object form, that is a data display issue, not a problem with the data itself.
:Lexemes have forms with grammatical features, allowing machines to select the correct form in different sentences (e.g. "I see them" versus "They see me"). You haven't explained how that will work with your proposal.
:I don't think it makes sense to remove all mentions of gender. Whether you like it or not, people ''do'' associate pronouns with gender and there ''is'' a lot of correlation between someone's gender identity and the gender of the pronouns they use. Removing links to other properties and aliases for terms that people do use makes things harder to find, and makes it more likely that they will do things like add {{P|P21}} based on pronouns, because they are more likely to be unaware that we even have a separate property for pronouns.
:The existence of languages which don't have gendered pronouns does not seem relevant. If a language doesn't have multiple pronouns for the same grammatical person/number, then I don't see how {{P|P6553}} would be useful. If you know of another distinction used for pronouns referring to other people, other than gender and formality, I would love to know about it (and it would be relevant to [[Wikidata:Lexicographical data]] in general).
:I don't think unsourced statements for a property should be mass removed before making an effort to add sources. Creating lists of statements with issues and encouraging people to help fix the issues would be a perfect task for a wikiproject.
:- [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] ([[User talk:Nikki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::Also pinging @[[User:BlaueBlüte|BlaueBlüte]] who already responded to your proposal on [[Wikidata talk:WikiProject Personal Pronouns]] back in May. - [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] ([[User talk:Nikki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:38, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks for pointing out that we missed this question. I just answered it (late). The reason why we want to change this property datatype from Lexeme to Item is in order to facilitate personal pronoun sets that use pronouns from different lexemes. For example, "they/xe" in the use case of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dua_Saleh Dua Saleh]. Lexemes cannot represent this pronoun set, but a Wikidata item can. It can also point to the appropriate (distinct) lexemes as parts. --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Nikki|Nikki]] Lexemes could be linked from pronoun set items as parts, but as we stated in this proposal, individual lexemes are not enough to go on much of the time to identify pronoun sets. We gave examples and fully explained why lexemes are not appropriate or sufficient for personal pronoun sets. These examples aren't different senses of the same word, but often distinct words in different senses. Lexemes would still exist, but would not be used as values for this particular property. Rather, they would be parts of sets. Which is how people use them. --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:::You have not clearly demonstrated why lexemes are not appropriate or sufficient though. It is possible to link to multiple lexemes. It is possible to use qualifiers such as {{P|P5548}} if it's really necessary. If you don't know how to model something in Wikidata, it would be a better idea to ask us how it can be modelled, before deciding it's not possible and the entire model needs to be changed.
:::{{Q|Q84766127}} already has links to lexemes for they and xe, {{Q|Q4080459}} already has links to lexemes for sie/hir and ze/zer. {{Q|Q113581}} could link to {{L|L485}} and {{L|L484}} with qualifiers (I'm not sure which property would fit best off the top of my head, but we can create more properties if necessary).
:::You should explain how machines are going to be able to use the data with your model. Projects such as [[:meta:Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]] need to be able to select the right pronouns for someone, which means saying things like "they" is the subject form and "them" is the object form in a machine-readable way.
:::- [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] ([[User talk:Nikki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks for this feedback. We do need to learn more about lexemes; [[User:BlaueBlüte|BlaueBlüte]] has been generous with their knowledge and explained that they are more flexible than we previously understood them to be. We truly did not know that distinct declension patterns for the same word could be reflected in different lemmas, or that a lemma could include a declension pattern sourced from multiple words. This information was really encouraging to learn and would have been useful to know, but we just didn't know it. When you say to "ask us" how something should be modelled, whom do you mean, @[[User:Nikki]]? I have questions all the time about how things are or ought to be modeled in Wikidata. Often questions in Telegram go unanswered or get buried quickly, and I don't see data modeling questions on the email listserv. It would be great to know where to ask. --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:03, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::+1 to Crystals question--where am I supposed to send students and editors with questions about Lexemes? The documentation is sorely lacking. [[User:Brimwats|Brimwats]] ([[User talk:Brimwats|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:40, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
: {{s}} I support the goals of this project. Wikidata editors should not be supplying {{P|21}} based on a person's pronouns.  And {{P|21}} should not be used to supply {{P|6553}} without references that document a person's choice of their pronouns.  The more that can be done to prevent misgendering people in Wikidata, the better. [[User:AdamSeattle|AdamSeattle]] ([[User talk:AdamSeattle|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 06:11, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:: Hey Adam, for the sake of clearly seeing who supports and opposes, an oppose/support would be useful in your comment. --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:00, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Discussions on Project Chat (or any other project pages) aren't decided by counting "votes". Instead we try to reach consensus. Pestering people into using a voting template isn't the best look. [[User:William Graham|William Graham]] ([[User talk:William Graham|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks. Are there guidelines for consensus on contentious topics where everyone does not agree on the best course of action that you can point me to? This has always been a murky area of Wikidata governance for me, and envisioning what "consensus" looks like in a conversation where you have two camps who do not and probably won't see eye to eye is really difficult. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{Strong oppose}} I don't understand why "Change data type from Lexeme to Wikidata Item", it would be a lot of work for no gain (I would even say it would be a loss, as the data would be poorer). Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:59, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::The gain would be solving the problem we point out here: "Individual pronouns as lexemes don’t account for cases where a principal pronoun isn’t enough to go on to identify a pronoun set (for instance, “ze/zir” vs. “ze/hir”). Therefore, lexemes cannot be consistently implemented with accuracy". It would not be very much work, and we laid out a very detailed implementation plan for doing the work. --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Presumably the Items would link to Lexemes, which brings the benefit of rich-data quality.
:::But, as Crystal described, the issue here is that, while {{L|485}} then provides {{L|485-F2}}, but an Item can more easily make visually clear the distinction between {{L|L304664}} (which uses {{L|L304664-F2}}) and {{L|L1230597}} (which uses {{L|L1230597-F2}}).
:::The Item would then, presumably, have a label of "ze/hir" and Properties aligning with 
:::* {{Q|Q131105}}: {{L|L1230597}}
:::* {{Q|Q1233197}}: {{L|L1230597-F2}}
:::* {{Q|Q1502460}}: {{L|L1230597-F3}}
:::and so on.
:::This doesn't feel like there'd be any data-quality loss here, merely adding an extra — more detailed — layer between the property on a biography Item and the Lexeme entries <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:OwenBlacker|OwenBlacker]]</span> <small>([[User talk:OwenBlacker|talk]]; please {[[Template:Ping|{ping}]]} me in replies)</small></span> 13:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Clements.UWLib}} I'm sorry but I still don't understand. Could you point to one item where there is problem with the current model? « It would not be very much work » you seem over-optismistic, creating a property is at least a month, deleting a property can take years (and all the mess in between of having two competing properties), plus you'll need to create thousands of items (for what: just to replicate data we already have on Lexemes?), that really seems like a lot of works. {{ping|OwenBlacker}} I'm even more confused. Maybe there is a problem with the current lexemes, their content and how their used but I don't see the problem with the model itself. Cheers, [[User:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[User talk:VIGNERON|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:18, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:(1) this should be an RFC, not an announcement on (English) Project Chat
:(2) In principle I think the item datatype may make sense here, but I don't understand how you would label or make consistent across languages. That needs to be discussed: would a person with "ze/zer" in English have a consistent label in every other language, or might different people make different choices in other languages? If consistent translations are expected then an item seems fine, otherwise I think this needs to stick with lexeme datatype.
:(3) Technically I don't believe the datatype can be just "replaced" - a new property would need to be created for the new datatype, and data migrated etc. As [[User:VIGNERON]] notes this would be considerable work fixing the ~6000 statements.
:[[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:48, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::We just asked in the Administrators' noticeboard about the process for requesting changes to properties, and you were one of the people who gave us feedback saying this was a good way to go and gave us further suggestions for how to go about this properly. I am confused about why you are now saying it should be done differently @[[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]]. Is it because you don't agree with the proposed changes? --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Clements.UWLib|Clements.UWLib]], only two people replied to you in that discussion. @[[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] and @[[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]]. It is not clear whether they were aware of the massive scope and depth of your intended proposal (because you were asking about a generality and not linking to specifics.) You implied that you wanted to change a single property or something. Indeed, the scope of your proposal appeared quite trivial there, compared to the overhaul you're actually hatching in this proposal. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:45, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::: {{ping|Clements.UWLib}} To be clear, I wasn't trying to imply that you shouldn't have posted this in Project Chat; I'm glad you did. But the scope of the change is more than we would normally handle this way. Particularly as it most likely will heavily involve data concerning living people, and the lexeme-related aspect implies significant cross-language synchronization which I don't see covered here yet. And technically because it requires creating a new property, not just changing an existing one. [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::::How and where does one post an RFC? And how does this proposal require creating a new property? --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::::To create an RFC, follow the instructions on the "Requests for comment" link at the top of this page. The data type change from Lexeme to Item value means it can't just be altered, a new property is needed. [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:32, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, I didn't realize that data type changes weren't possible. So, is what we are suggesting in fact the cancellation of one property in favor of a new one? How does that work? Thank you for the feedback. [[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:22, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::{{ping|Clements.UWLib}} When you have a consensus on the change (ideally determined by an admin or other non-involved person closing the RFC with an assessment in favor of the change) then a property proposal for the new property should be straightforward, and the property can usually be created in a week or so. Then migration of the old values to the new values (to the extent that is wanted). And then a proposal for deletion of the old property would be needed, on the Properties for Deletion page. [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:37, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
::::We do want to change a single property. This doesn't have massive scope or depth beyond the single property we're talking about and the cleanup work we and our project partners would complete. The data is already a messy mix of items and lemmas I don't understand why this is being perceived as some sort of overhaul. This would be a cleanup and implementation of a coherent data model in place of no coherent data model. --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:55, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::It's also worth mentioning that a fair amount of the cleanup work could be automated. It's not especially complex and ~6000 records for cleanup frankly isn't a huge amount. — <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:OwenBlacker|OwenBlacker]]</span> <small>([[User talk:OwenBlacker|talk]]; please {[[Template:Ping|{ping}]]} me in replies)</small></span> 13:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
:+1 on VIGNERON's and Arthur's points. Most importantly, let's not discuss it here. A dedicated RfC or conversation at the property's discussion page will be better suited for a proposal like this. [[User:Vojtěch Dostál|Vojtěch Dostál]] ([[User talk:Vojtěch Dostál|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:58, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::Conversation has been ongoing on the property's discussion page for quite some time, and we believe reflects consensus on the proposed changes. We brought it here because we thought the broader community should have input before we moved ahead with the changes. --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:::{{Info}} AFAICT, the recent conversation on [[Property talk:P6553]] has consistently been about whether {{P|6553}} should ever be ''added'' to historical bio items (such as {{Q|23}}) based solely on socially ascribed sex-or-gender, as opposed to self-usage by the item's subject (as might be readily ascertained even for some historical people, e.g. by referencing the subject's own writings).  For what it's worth, I agree that adding P6553 claims based solely on such inferences would be quite inappropriate, disrespectful and, in a way, even silly.  Inferences in the reverse direction are a different story however: there seems to be a de-facto consensus that recording even inferred sex-or-gender data about especially obscure historical people, such may only be known from their contributions to academic research or creative works, may in fact be valuable, since it can enhance our understanding of structural biases that may still be very relevant in the present day. --[[User:Hupaleju|Hupaleju]] ([[User talk:Hupaleju|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:01, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{Status oppose2}} Inferring sex or gender from gender-specific pronouns or styles (i.e. the "Mr."/"Mstr." vs. "Mrs."/"Miss" or whatever) comes up all the time when dealing with obscure historical people, including e.g. people involved in research or contributors to creative works.  The gold standard will always be self-identification of preferred gender of course, but realistically that's going to be exceedingly rare for pre-20th century humans, and still somewhat uncommon even afterwards. I'm all for explicitly disclaiming this practice wrt. [[Wikidata:Living people]] where concerns about both individual privacy and harmful misrepresentation of marginalized gender-non-conforming groups will be rather more relevant; but recording sex-or-gender inferences about people in history is widely seen as useful for, e.g. extracting gender representation statistics wrt. Wikidata itself or subsets thereof.  --[[User:Hupaleju|Hupaleju]] ([[User talk:Hupaleju|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::The problem with this that we see is that people's gender identities, past and present, do not always align with the gender identities others attach to personal pronoun sets. This leads to misgendering, and the erasure of gender identities outside the "male/female" binary in the way it's been applied in Wikidata. This misgendering disproportionately affects people who fall outside the gender binary. For living people, that can be dangerous. For historical people, it's disrespectful. We're not asking for historical data not to be recorded. Just for binary gender information not to be assumed based on a person's personal pronouns. Extracting gender representation statistics is important, but shouldn't they include gender non-binary folks? Shouldn't they be accurate? These inferences create biased, inaccurate data that skews towards erasure of gender identities outside the gender binary. That matters a lot, even for people no longer living. --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) [[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:18, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{Oppose}} Per the reasoning above, please convert this from an announcement into an RFC for debate and discussion. I am concerned with data loss or loss of precision in moving from lexemes to items. I concur with the fact that inferred sex happens routinely from historical documents. I am also concerned with the proliferation of [[:en:Neopronoun]]s and their associated burden of maintenance. The English Wikipedia tends not to indulge these neopronouns in article prose. Is it Wikidata's intent to catalog, document, and apply neopronouns in a completely credulous fashion? It is a fact that neopronouns can and will be used to troll and disrupt communications. It would be inadvisable for us to take them always at face value. Lastly, I am concerned about the size and scope of these changes. This is a large proposal, and difficult for us to digest as a monolith. Perhaps itemize it, prioritize elements of it, and propose options/choices within each major decision. A proper RFC should have a central and identifiable proposal for debate, and not a lot of moving parts! [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, of course it is advisable to take people's pronouns at face value. This is not what we came here to debate, and it's not up for debate in this community as far as I know. This is not a moving part. We suggested five bullet-pointed changes to a single property. The rest is supporting information. Your comments about neopronouns make it difficult for me to think you are engaging with this proposal in good faith. --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
::I don't agree with the whole aspect about trolling and disrupting. Wikidata is a database that still takes references from journalism/academia. I assume we will be adding neopronouns that have been recorded in such capacity, and not anything bad faith coming out of the "My pronouns are your/mom" type disruptive usage. Anything sincere and well-recorded does deserve to be on Wikidata. [[User:Egezort|Egezort]] ([[User talk:Egezort|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
: {{Support}} per nomination. I've also updated the wording above to reflect the broad support that has previously been discussed with [[m:Wikimedia LGBT+|the Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group]]. — <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:OwenBlacker|OwenBlacker]]</span> <small>([[User talk:OwenBlacker|talk]]; please {[[Template:Ping|{ping}]]} me in replies)</small></span>
: {{Strong support}} As [[User:AdamSeattle|AdamSeattle]] says above, sex and gender should not be linked to or inferred from pronouns. I support this project and am happy to help implement. --[[User:Emwille|Emwille]] ([[User talk:Emwille|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:24, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
::Alright folks, I'm becoming a bit concerned about the appearance of consensus here, while we're still at the level of an informal discussion/proposal.
::It has come to light that several of the editors commenting here are personally affiliated with the University of Washington, and/or Crystal Yragui (@[[User:Clements.UWLib|Clements.UWLib]]). 
::While these affiliations and coordination may be perfectly permissible under Wikidata policies and guidelines, it would be helpful if all editors would clearly and plainly state their affiliations, and any conflicts of interest which may arise from them.
::It would not be good to establish a false consensus on the basis of support by a network of interrelated editors, while discounting the opinions of disinterested and editors who are independent and unaffiliated with UW and one another.
::Yragui has already informed me that the comments which they modified belong to editors who they know personally. If y'all are so personally involved that you're putting words in one another's mouths, then you're '''too close to express separate opinions''' on any such topic. Thank you. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:11, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
:::I strongly reject the bias accusation implied in your comment. I'm not affiliated with UW at all & I've personally taught over 300 students how to use Wikidata at another institution entirely. @[[User:Clements.UWLib|Clements.UWLib]]'s proposal is sensible and would correct obviously incorrect data. [[User:Brimwats|Brimwats]] ([[User talk:Brimwats|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{Strong support}} I think this is really important, and the proposed changes look good to me. I'm especially supportive of providing references to support both gender and pronouns, as others have said one does not neccessarily imply the other, either in contmeporary society, or with increasing understanding of how historical figures configured their genders. A more nuanced model, which this provides, is neccessary to better represent humanity [[User:Lajmmoore|Lajmmoore]] ([[User talk:Lajmmoore|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:28, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{strong oppose}}<br/>'''on formal grounds''' (needs more careful and more multilingual consideration than it can be given in the (exclusively-English-language!) Project Chat; needlessly ties together at most tangentially related changes),<br/>'''on methodological/pragmatic grounds''' (lacks discussion of how sources state pronouns (e.g., [[Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Personal_Pronouns#BlaueBlüte-20240712T1753Z|what does “they/xe” mean]]?); of the needs of query authors, data re-users, WP-infobox-template authors, etc.), and<br/>'''on data-modeling/semantic grounds''' (supposed rationale for proposed data-type change has already been refuted multiple times; fails to take into account modeling of pronouns in languages other than English; and there may well be reasons to state a relationship between {{P|6553}} and {{P|21}} ''of some sort'' (to be ''discussed'') rather than removing it altogether).<br/>Please break up this proposal into separate issues so far as they can usefully be discussed separately (e.g., (a) how to model a pronoun, (b) statements relating {{P|6553}} to other sex-or-gender-related/-correlated properties, (c) data cleanup (which, incidentally, I {{status supportc}}), (d) …) and initiate a multilingual discussion of these issues—put to use the non-English language competencies among [[Wikidata:WikiProject Personal Pronouns|WikiProject Personal Pronouns]] participants and try to recruit additional non-English (native) speakers. ―[[User:BlaueBlüte|BlaueBlüte]] ([[User talk:BlaueBlüte|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:55, 13 July 2024 (UTC); amended 19:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
* {{strong oppose}} Formally, we have "Requests for comment" for proposals like this. Making such a long proposal on the project chat is bad given archiving. Changing a datatype as proposed is not something that's possible in the Wikidata UI. While we have done String->External ID conversions before, those are easier given that both are essentially strings. It would need some manual editing of the database done by WMDE which is against previous WMDE policy. We make promises about data stability and switching datatypes in this way violates them. If there's a desire to change the datatype, proposing a new property with the item datatype and deleting the one with the lexeme datatype would be the straightforward way to go.
: While I agree that adding values based on the heuristics is undesirable, I don't think simply deleting all existing values is a straightforward way to solve the problem on a permanent basis. Adding {{Q|54554025}} and then deleting values that are based on heuristics and not citations seems to me like a better solution.
: It's unclear to me what the proposal even means with "relationship with {{P|21}}". {{P|1659}} does seem fitting to me. [[User:ChristianKl|<span style="color:#0000EE;">'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 22:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
::I can confirm that changing the datatype of the existing property is not going to happen. I’m not sure if changing the content of existing revisions in the database is merely extremely difficult or completely impossible, but it’s certainly not feasible at the scale that would be needed for this proposal (changing heaven knows how many historical revisions of thousands of items). If the proposal is otherwise sound, the correct way to effectively “change the datatype” is to create a new replacement property, migrate all the data to it using normal edits, and then eventually deleting the old property once it’s no longer used, as Christian said. [[User:Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)|Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)]] ([[User talk:Lucas Werkmeister (WMDE)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{Support}} Big support for the goal of decoupling pronouns from sex and gender (P21) in heuristics. We already have best practices for racial and ethnic group data (see P172) that reject an editor's inference as insufficient proof of ethnic identity, and I don't see why we shouldn't model this standard of proof with gender properties. [[User:Marcae16|Marcae16]] ([[User talk:Marcae16|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:31, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{comment}} I'm not sure why there has been a reluctance here to create an RFC; perhaps it's in the works. I would note that "changes to a single property" are indeed a frequent reason for RFC's, when that property is widely used or has other implications. Current open RFC's include at least five that are primarily concerned with just 1-3 properties (either existing or proposed). [[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]] ([[User talk:ArthurPSmith|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
::Hi @[[User:ArthurPSmith|ArthurPSmith]]! An RFC will be in the works soon, since many have called for one and we've got a lot to talk about. We're just taking a beat to read the feedback we've gotten and pivot. We took a lot of time and care putting this proposal together, and re-working it into a new RFC is taking a minute too. It will take into account the concerns folks have expressed about data modeling, some of which may change our approach. When an RFC is created I will make sure we link to it from here and from the property discussion page. 
::Is there a policy/policies surrounding RFCs and changes to existing properties we should be aware of at this point? There seems to be some knowledge about the "way things are done" that we have not been privy to, and I'd love to be able to constructively discuss possible changes and ways forward while respecting community norms and expectations. When we posted this proposal to the project chat, we were sure that this was "the way". I've been editing in Wikidata for a few years now but I don't have any experience with this sort of decisionmaking/debate in Wikidata outside of discussing new property proposals others have made. Thank you for answering questions and providing guidance, both here and on the admin noticeboard. --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
:::I'd like to chime in again, since there's been a dearth of comments or replies to the concerns I raised upthread about personal affiliations and consensus.
:::You keep saying "we" as if you're running a shared account, or more than one account, or you represent more than one person when you post from your account. While that's not prohibited at Wikidata, it'd be helpful for you to disclose the identity of "we".
:::Following on from that, it's apparent that other commenters/supporters in this thread are directly affiliated with you, or collaborating with you in a way that's not apparent to all of us. So when people come on here to support your ideas, these are not independently-formed opinions, and that's a problematic way to represent consensus, IMHO, I don't know about other Wikidata editors, but personally, I'd prefer to know who's been canvassed, who's connected, and who's truly independent and offering an unbiased opinion.
:::So going forward I hope that an RFC can be conducted in a transparent and just manner. It's also important to really break it down and simplify it into components that we can all easily digest and consider, rather than this monolithic thing. It seems that many people who came here to support you wholeheartedly didn't even notice or heed expert comments that components of the proposal were unworkable/technically impossible from the outset. [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:44, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
::::I mean [[Wikidata:WikiProject Personal Pronouns|WikiProject Personal Pronouns]], which was openly stated in the introduction as the source of this proposal. I'm openly listed on that page as a participant in the project. When I say "we" here, I mean the participants in that project, and I wasn't speaking for anyone else who expressed support outside of that WikiProject which collectively raised this proposal. I'm one person running a single account trying to improve Wikidata in good faith. Your tone reads as hostile, and I am concerned that it may drive away people with relevant expertise on this subject matter who may want to contribute to a RFC once we've had some time to breathe and put one together. --[[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:09, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I see that your introduction was quite clear about the Wikiproject representation.
:::::I was honestly confused by the situation. Your username contains "Clements" but you seem to be named "Crystal" so I wasn't sure whose account it was. You're also from the University of Washington Libraries and so I sort of logically assumed that "we" referred to all UWLib Wikidata editors, is that crazy? This discussion is not on the Wikiproject page but a public noticeboard. It surprises me that a representative should be chosen by a WP to represent them and speak on their behalf; nobody would dare take this authority on enwiki. WikiProjects are egalitarian and cooperative places to establish consensus and work out disputes, and this is the first time I've seen one with a leader and representative who speaks and makes decisions on their behalf. Would I be permitted to join such a project and offer my own opinions?
:::::And then you went around changing other editors' comments. That is strange behavior, if you ask me, and I'm sorry if I came up hostile at that point, but I honestly did not know what to think; as a longtime editor of other projects, a lot of this behavior would've been unacceptable and grounds for suspicion and blocking.
:::::I know Wikidata works a lot differently and so I was just trying to sort out the truth of your account status, your group affiliation with the "we" statements, and your relationships with other commenters who appeared to be totally independently sharing their opinions, until you added "{{tl|strong support}}" on their behalf.
:::::I'm sorry to cause offense here, but honestly, it was a bit of a dumpster fire already, being out-of-process and technically infeasible, and we still have "strong supporters" of an impossible proposal, so can we please shut this down, reset and start off on better footing please? [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:34, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::To be clear to others: I'm not a representative or a leader of WikiProject Personal Pronouns, I've just been fielding questions and responding to feedback, which anyone else can also do. @[[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]], nobody in the WikiProject makes unilateral decisions and I strongly resent your accusation that I am doing so just because I've posted a few updates and responses to questions here. My username reflects a name change which is frankly none of your business. [[User:Clements.UWLib|Crystal Yragui, University of Washington Libraries]] ([[User talk:Clements.UWLib|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:15, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::I disagree that this has been a "dumpster fire". Most people have lodged valid criticisms without questioning editors motivations or trying to sleuth out who they are and who they may or may not be affiliated with. WikiProject Personal Pronouns is a collective of editors who have varying affiliations and cross affiliations with other WikiProjects. Affiliations with people who have a shared interest (Wikidata) doesn't mean individual people cannot come to and express there own opinions. Certainly, people can support the spirit of a project or idea, but not have clear agreement on how and if it can be accomplished. I think your accusations were unfounded and uncalled for. It serves as a means to deter current and future editors from trying to contribute more to Wikidata and its governance structure. [[User:Rodriguez.UW|Rodriguez.UW]] ([[User talk:Rodriguez.UW|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:01, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
::::This, and your abovethread comments are unduly hostile and aggressive and not in the cooperative and kind nature of Wikidata. I'm really disappointed to see this level of rudeness and suspicion-throwing towards fellow editors. [[User:Brimwats|Brimwats]] ([[User talk:Brimwats|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 22:35, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::So am I. But who in hell are you? [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:46, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]]: Presumably @[[User:Brimwats|Brimwats]] is just another Wikidata contributor. There is no requirement for hierarchy before suggesting that someone's tone and approach is coming across as pretty hostile and aggressive — whether that is intended or not.
::::::Can I suggest you take another look at the [[foundation:Policy:Universal Code of Conduct|Universal Code of Conduct]] terms around Mutual respect, around Civility and around [[WD:AGF|Assuming Good Faith]]. This isn't an argument over whether a thing should be done, it's a discussion on how best to address something that a group of users have identified as being problematic.
::::::Once you're in a more collaborative mood, perhaps you could rephrase your outstanding concerns so that they can be more easily responded to. — <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:OwenBlacker|OwenBlacker]]</span> <small>([[User talk:OwenBlacker|talk]]; please {[[Template:Ping|{ping}]]} me in replies)</small></span> 16:33, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::@[[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]]I have to agree with @[[User:OwenBlacker|OwenBlacker]] even outside of the context of the proposal. There is no need for language to be escalated and questioning of motives or positions of other editors. We should all wish to keep things collegial. We all have an interest in Wikidata and the assumption of good faith is a fundamental principle in maintaining community here. [[User:Rodriguez.UW|Rodriguez.UW]] ([[User talk:Rodriguez.UW|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:49, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::Why are you accusing me of being rude if you're the one swearing at me? I fail to see any warrant or need for that level of hostility. Furthermore, what is your question supposed to mean?? Are you asking me who I am on an epistemic level? I'm probably Q5 then (if you need a link: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5)... or maybe you mean here, in this context? Then I'm probably Q28859215 or Q37226? Do you mean personally? Q109757168 would work--how about you? [[User:Brimwats|Brimwats]] ([[User talk:Brimwats|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{strong oppose}} Wrong venue for this proposal. Needs to be broken up into one or more RFCs and a property for creation proposal. [[User:William Graham|William Graham]] ([[User talk:William Graham|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 03:27, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

== I am a wikidata virgin (male) , and I need help to post some data there. ==

I created a complete bibliography list of works by a recent Nobel prize winner [[John B. Goodenough]], and I posted my list to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Goodenough.  Another editor suggested, that I move this list to wikidata, and provide a link to wikipedia.
Since I have never used wikidata ( and do not plan to use it much to justify the learning time), I am asking someone to place my list to wikidata. [[User:Walter Tau|Walter Tau]] ([[User talk:Walter Tau|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:46, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

:Hello Walter Tau, Wikidata objects related to [[:d:Q906529]] can be found for example at:
:* https://w.wiki/Ajzc
:* https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Q906529&limit=500
:[[User:M2k~dewiki|M2k~dewiki]] ([[User talk:M2k~dewiki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:07, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

:If you want to generate static wiki pages from a collection of wikidata items, you could also use [[Wikidata:Listeria]].--[[User:5628785a|5628785a]] ([[User talk:5628785a|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:50, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

== Is there a property of the "last public appearance in a photograph" of a person, such as actor, politician or other persons? ==

I notice this [[Property:P12878]] = last appearance (P12878) "last work featuring a fictional character or item" 

Thank you, -- [[User:Ooligan|Ooligan]] ([[User talk:Ooligan|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:08, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

== Journal Issues ==

Would like to create item for journal issue and post table of contents I.e. list of titles of all articles with author details for all  the articles. Please post any help page or link document.
Thanks.

Vjsuseela [[User:Vjsuseela|Vjsuseela]] ([[User talk:Vjsuseela|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Vjsuseela|Vjsuseela]] The [[Wikidata:WikiCite]] group/project and [[Wikidata talk:WikiCite]] should be able to help you. They're the project that focuses on this scholarly and scientific journals. [[User:William Graham|William Graham]] ([[User talk:William Graham|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:38, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
== Conflation ==

The IP 83.28.217.24 seems to add whatever is connected with a name. I've just marked {{Q+|121437661}} mixed with a lecturer in American Studies as conflation. (I haven't corrected all errors yet.) Now I've checked {{Q+|7292360}}, the founder of FlyerTalk, and the conflation seems even worse. IdRef for an educator, VIAF [https://viaf.org/viaf/10083800/ 10083800] with ''100 Bible verses that changed the world''  etc. Can someone have a look? --[[User:Kolja21|Kolja21]] ([[User talk:Kolja21|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
:I reverted the recent additions. The links are at https://snaccooperative.org/ark:/99166/w6sp2nn0 but they seem to be at least three different people. [[User:Peter James|Peter James]] ([[User talk:Peter James|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:35, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
::{{done}} Thanks. Conflation solved. [[User:Kolja21|Kolja21]] ([[User talk:Kolja21|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

== Discographies ==

Are entries like <strike> {{Q|Q1869887}}</strike> {{Q|Q96159078}} and {{Q|Q96159307}} suppose to link to an actual discography that we store somewhere internally or stored externally? Or do we create discography entries for every musical group? [[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:30, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

:Sorry, I can’t understand the question. Did you link the right item? --[[User:Geohakkeri|Geohakkeri]] ([[User talk:Geohakkeri|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 16:55, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
:I'm generally of the opinion that items of type {{q|Q13406463}} and subclasses, including {{q|Q104635718}}, shouldn't have any statements of {{p|P527}} when those relationships can already be determined with data that is already exists in the constituent member items. For discographies we already have the ability to search items that have the musician/group in the performer/artist statements.  For the same reasons I don't think it would make sense to add a {{p|P361}} statement to a song/recording/album linking to a discography item.
:But that is just my opinion and I'm sure that the folks at [[Wikidata:WikiProject Music]] have thought more about it and might even have some good showcase/exemplar items. {{q|Q50638}} was linked on  their project page and it looks like a reasonable approach/how I would expect it. [[User:William Graham|William Graham]] ([[User talk:William Graham|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:59, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
::Sorry and to circle back to the question asked, for those same reasons (can already determine discography by inference from existing items) I don't think it is needed to create a discography for every musician/group unless there is a discography page on a Wikimedia project. [[User:William Graham|William Graham]] ([[User talk:William Graham|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:50, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
:Copypasta error? Looking like Q1869887 points to the "noble title" mentioned in the post above, not really relevant to discographies (unless I'm missing some context). [[User:Moebeus|Moebeus]] ([[User talk:Moebeus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 19:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
* Sorry! My fault. I corrected it above. I do not see a point having them, we can link to Discogs or DAHR from the discography link but we already point to it from the main Wikidata entry. They provide nothing useful unless there was a separate Wikimedia entry. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 21:30, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
*:Simplifying it a little I would say the reason we have them is threefold:
*:1. Consistency. A large amount of discografies exist on WP and therefore on WD, so a large amount of recording artists will have these statements anyways, whether we like them or not. Discography articles on Wikipedia tend to get added and deleted, split and merged, all the time, so "let's just make them all conform to the norm and move on to more pressing things". 
*:2. Structure. Among other things they provide a way to link to Wikipedia Categories, which we don't like cluttering up our main items more than necessary.
*:3. Compromise. A common pattern on Wikipedias are "Infoboxes", and these infoboxes often have a "<previous record><this record><next record>" navigation element. These keep getting added to Wikidata in the form of [[Property:P155|follows]] and [[Property:P156|followed by]] statements in the hundreds of thousands. This is [[Wikidata:Requests for comment/P155/P156 as qualifiers only, rather than as main statements|to be avoided]], so a practise has developed where discografies are used to model the infox chronologies, extending an olive branch to our sometimes very insistent editor collegues on the Wikipedia side of the fence, while pruning excessive main statements. Several Wikipedias who are not English Wikipedia actually use Wikidata to automate parts of these Infoxes, so we're making an effort to not just yank stuff out, but provide a way to transition.
*:None of these are very good arguments from a purist standpoint, personally I would say it's mostly fair if we're trying to be pragmatic about it. However, as is frequently pointed out to me, this is just like, ''my opinion, man'', and not the official position of [[Wikidata:WikiProject_Music]].
*:Is there a smarter way to go about it? Discographical chronologies are not as straightforward as one might intially think, but I would still say 100% yes there is. It would require copious amounts of both elbow grease and consensus, two of the most sought after rare earth minerals on planet Wikidata, but it could for sure be done.  [[User:Moebeus|Moebeus]] ([[User talk:Moebeus|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
== How to express that one source qualifies a date as latest possible ==

For {{Q|127697124}}, [https://bcnattraction.wordpress.com/2016/04/07/calle-dels-dominics/ one of my sources] points out that the 1936 date given by several official sources (including [https://ajuntament.barcelona.cat/arqueologiabarcelona/mosaics/mosaic/carrer-dels-dominics-26/], which postdates that first source) is really a latest possible date: "Consulté también el catastro (es que una es así de cabezota) y la fecha que consta es 1936 y está declarada como vivienda. Sin embargo, teniendo en cuenta que la urbanización esta zona de la calle Quatre Camis es de esa fecha, no sé hasta qué punto la casa no será anterior," not easily translated but basically saying that it first shows up on property records in 1936, but there is no guarantee that it might not be older. Any reasonable way to express that qualification? - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ([[User talk:Jmabel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 01:56, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
: I would further mention that the architect (Eusebi Climent Viñola) died in 1917, so it would be odd for a building of his to be completed decades after his death, so I'm pretty skeptical about the one source we have, even if it is an official government source. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ([[User talk:Jmabel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 04:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]], I'm not sure which of {{Q|P8555}}, {{Q|P1326}}, or {{Q|P12506}} would apply in this specific case. 
:If you want to say the latest date that {{Q|Q127697124}} starting being a building, I'd do 
:{{Statement|127697124|31|41176|P8555|1936 }} [[User:Lovelano|Lovelano]] ([[User talk:Lovelano|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:34, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

== EU Commission - European electronic health record exchange format - (EEHRxF) ==

I'm coming in via the EU Health Union, Priority 8: eHealthRecord, Patient Data Vault, eHealthKiosks, Smartwatches & sensors, storing and sharing health data. Anybody working on this or any advise/vision on this? Most EU member states have implemented the EEHR.  Implementation of the EEHRxF - so that eHealthKiosks, Smartwatches & sensors directly write data into citizen's eHealthRecords starts november 2024 and compliance to be implemented by 2027 - from then on there will be penalties. It is not normal that +60.000 Power people in the Brussels power bubble and politicians everywhere in Europe have their smartphones register how many hours they slept, if they slept well, if they are struggling with fatigue, etc - idem their family members and that those data are via their iPhones somewhere with the secret services of the USA, Huawei - with their Chinese counterparts smiling because they know exactly how fatigues you are and that you will be inclined to give in into a negotiation if they just strech it, Samsung - no idea where that data ends up, etc.   More: https://xpandh-project.iscte-iul.pt Looking forward, [[User:SvenAERTS|SvenAERTS]] ([[User talk:SvenAERTS|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:09, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
: The connection between this and Wikidata completely escapes me. - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ([[User talk:Jmabel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:24, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

== Statements for suspended then cancelled event ==

Which statements to add for suspended then cancelled event? [[User:Eurohunter|Eurohunter]] ([[User talk:Eurohunter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:59, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
: If nothing else, there's {{C|FOO|793|115754746}} and {{C|FOO|793|30108381}} with dates as qualifiers. (This assumes that FOO is an item for the event.) - [[User:Jmabel|Jmabel]] ([[User talk:Jmabel|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 23:32, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

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== Office_holder or has_part ==

Noble titles appear to be split between two ways of modelling. See: {{Q|Q1869887}} where I include both. Which model should we harmonize on? [[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|RAN]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:52, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

:{{Property|527}} does not seem like the right way to model this to me. The people holding these titles aren't parts of the title. While {{Property|1308}} seems to have been created for exactly this purpose (though such reverse properties probably wouldn't be created anymore nowadays). --[[Special:Contributions/2A02:810B:580:11D4:7CF0:945:A5B3:95EE|2A02:810B:580:11D4:7CF0:945:A5B3:95EE]] 02:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

== RE: Monument in Chile is whole town that we have an item of ==

reviving earlier discussion, see [[Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2024/07 #Monument in Chile is whole town that we have an item of]]

Dear {{ping|Ymblanter|p=,}} thank you for your earlier reply! Didn't see in time, unfortunately. In your answer, you stated that merging these two entries would result in a bunch of constraint violations. What would be the problem of adding the statements {{P|1435}} and {{P|2186}} from {{Q|42897945}} (the monument) to {{Q|187893}} (the city item)? The latter does have a statement of ''heritage status'' already so I am confused as to whether it's shouldn't be possible to have this information on that item.<br>
<small>(I might add that I used the term 'merging' but meant more or less combining all the information of the two items into one, not necessarily done by using the Merge function.)</small>

Would it pose a problem that the ''Wiki loves Monuments'' database gives slightly different coordinates than the city item? (I couldn't find where those came from, though, as the original decrees listed on the Chilenian heritage site ([https://www.monumentos.gob.cl/monumentos/zonas-tipicas/pueblo-san-pedro-atacama here]) don't give any.) Thank you for/anyone else more firm in Wikidata structure for enlightening me :) [[User:Fallen Sheep|Fallen Sheep]] ([[User talk:Fallen Sheep|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:02, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

:No, coordinates we can changes, this is not a problem, but I am sure that an object which has a P31 = city should not be able to have many properties which a monument has. [[User:Ymblanter|Ymblanter]] ([[User talk:Ymblanter|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:54, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
::Ah, I understand where you're coming from. However, the item is not really a 'monument' but rather... a heritage site? (Maybe I used the wrong language in my description before.) And the designation is giving to the whole city of San Pedro de Atacama. Hence why I compared it to {{Q|12508}} which also has the property {{P|1435}}. Hence my confusion why it couldn't be possible for this item too.
::Really the only properties/statements the monument item has that the city item doesn't are {{P|1435}} and {{P|2186}}. I think both would add relevant information to the city item. [[User:Fallen Sheep|Fallen Sheep]] ([[User talk:Fallen Sheep|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:24, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

== B/W for the games of a videogame console ==

How to model if the games of a videogame console has B/W or color images displayed? The console case usually has colors but the games for some consoles can be only in B/W as for [[Q117211808]]. There are [[Q838368]] (B/W) or [[Q22006653]] (color) to describe the color ([[Property:P462]]) of a film but I don't know if it's appropriate to model not the colors of the console itself, but the colors of relative games, of the images displayed. [[User:Arosio Stefano|Arosio Stefano]] ([[User talk:Arosio Stefano|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:25, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

:There is an item for {{q|Q115919122}} that has a couple uses describing {{q|Q2020407}} (cell phone) and {{q|Q1047650}} (series of graphing calculators) using {{p|P1552}}. I think creating a monochrome screen item (with aliases monochromatic screen and black and white screen) as an inverse would make a lot of sense. But I defer to those with more experience modeling electronic device features. [[User:William Graham|William Graham]] ([[User talk:William Graham|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

== Q7929727 ==

Hi. Looking at [[Q7929727|this entry]], it appears to conflate information about two different people. Per my comment on that talk page "The Chinese wiki article is for someone else (born 1978/79), with the English article about the Hungarian sprinter born 1973. The Arabic wiki article conflates the two people."  Please can someone help to split the Chinese page here to another one?  I've removed the death information here, as the bulk of the record relates to the Hungarian sprinter who is as far as I can tell still alive. Thank you [[User:HelplessChild|HelplessChild]] ([[User talk:HelplessChild|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 17:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
:I moved the Chinese sitelink to a new item, {{Q|Q127998634}}. I couldn't find a date of birth but according to https://www.mensjournal.com/adventure/red-bull-wingsuit-pilot-dies-when-parachute-fails he was 40 (born 1972 or 1973; the sprinter was 39 at the time). https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/118476818/victor-kov%C3%A1cs uses the date of birth of the sprinter, but there is no source and not much information so it is possible Wikipedia was used and they were assumed to be the same person. [[User:Peter James|Peter James]] ([[User talk:Peter James|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 18:25, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
== Qualifier value violations? ==

I fail to understand what the issue is with these [[Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P2124#"Qualifier_value"_violations|Qualifier value violations]]. What is expected for the number of members of an organization? Judging from the fairly large number of violations something is going really wrong here, or the expected entries are counter intuitive or... I cannot tell. Anyhow, any insight on this is welcome. Cheers [[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:22, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

:Wow, nobody with a clue? [[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:58, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
: That constraint is an unofficial and undocumented one and I don't know what it's supposed to mean on that property (there's already {{Q|Q21510851}} for which qualifiers are allowed). Since it doesn't seem to be doing anything useful, I've removed it. - [[User:Nikki|Nikki]] ([[User talk:Nikki|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:59, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
:: That explains things. Thank you for your feedback and support. Cheers --[[User:Kghbln|&#91;&#91;kgh&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Kghbln|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 12:29, 29 July 2024 (UTC)

== Wikidata weekly summary #638 ==

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** Wikimania starts on August 7. Here is a list of sessions focused around Wikidata, or have *some* connection to Wikidata: [[wikimania:2024:Program/Wikidata|2024:Program/Wikidata]]. If something is missing, feel free to add to it, including any Wikidata meetups you may be hosting.

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** [https://culturalcontent.substack.com/p/sharing-the-worlds-paintings-on-wikidata "Sharing the world’s paintings on Wikidata"] By Martin Poulter for the ''Cultural Content'' Substack
** [https://wikiedu.org/blog/2024/07/10/an-intelligent-system-what-i-learned-through-taking-an-introductory-wikidata-course/ WikiEdu: What I learned taking an introductory Wikidata Course] - Anne-Christine Hoff, associate professor of English at Jarvis Christian University, describes her experiences and learnings from taking an intro to Wikidata course, provided by the WikiEdu.org, a project of the Wiki Education Foundation.
** [https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.18278 Talking Wikidata: Communication patterns and their impact on community engagement in collaborative knowledge graphs] - This study investigates the behaviours, communication patterns and interactions of the core small Wikidata community that are responsible for 80% of its content, in order to future contribution and participation. By E. Koutsiana et al.
** [https://arxiv.org/html/2403.10304v2KIF: A Wikidata-Based Framework for Integrating Heterogeneous Knowledge Sources] - This paper presents KIF, a Wikidata-based framework for virtually integrating heterogeneous knowledge sources and discuss how it was used to solve a real integration problem in the domain of chemistry (involving Wikidata, PubChem, and IBM CIRCA). By G. Lima et al.
* Press release: [https://www.iccu.sbn.it/it/SBN/catalogazione-e-manutenzione-del-catalogo-sbn/progetti-di-implementazione-dei-dati-dellindice-sbn/arricchimento-dei-dati-di-authority-di-sbn-attraverso-il-confronto-e-lo-scambio-con-wikidata-/ Arricchimento dei dati di authority di SBN attraverso il confronto e lo scambio con Wikidata] (in Italian): [[:d:Q3803707|ICCU]], the institute coordinating the biggest Italian OPAC (the [[:d:Q105086090|OPAC SBN]], involving more than 7 thousands libraries), has just finished enriching about 16200 nearly empty authority records with data taken from the respective Wikidata items (Wikidata items link to SBN authority records through [[:d:Property:P396|P396]]); this announcement describes in detail the enrichment work, which started in June 2023; for more information (and bibliography) about the collaboration between ICCU and Wikidata, see [[:d:Wikidata:Gruppo Wikidata per Musei, Archivi e Biblioteche/SBN]] (in Italian)
* Videos
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab5q93B3S1Q Intro to Wikidata] - This intro to Wikidata was provided for participants of the International Linguistics Olympiad 2024, held in Brasília. Presented by Artur Corrêa Souza and Éder Porto, organised by Wiki Movimento Brasil.
** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkVh4nQBk2A Mining and Modeling Text using Wikibase] - the University of Trier is building a knowledge graph on French Enlightenment novels 1751 - 1800 with the use of Wikibase.

''' Tool of the week '''
* [[d:User:Nikki/ShowIDs.js|User:Nikki/ShowIDs.js]] - This user script adds entity IDs in brackets after links.
* [https://observablehq.com/@pac02/common-values Common values], yet another Observable notebook. This one looks at common values between two Wikidata item pages.

''' Other Noteworthy Stuff '''
* KDE Itinerary, KDE's travel assistant app, [https://volkerkrause.eu/2024/07/27/kde-itinerary-june-july-2024.html gets more Wikidata integration].
* The Wikidata Development team needs your feedback to evaluate "default values for all languages" (mul) in the Termbox. Please share your thoughts on this 5-10 minute anonymous survey: https://wikimedia.sslsurvey.de/Wikidata-default-values-feedback
* The [[m:WIT|Wikidata (integrations) for Wikimedia projects]] team have released a progress report on their ongoing research project, investigating the "State of Wikidata usage on other wikis". Available on the [[m:WIT/Research|Research page]], alternatively on [[c:File:Wikidata_for_Wikimedia_Projects_-_State_of_Wikidata_usage_-_progress_report_27.06.2024.pdf|Commons]].
* The Wikibase REST API, introduced last year on Wikidata, is progressing towards version 1, aiming for a comprehensive release by the end of 2024. We're seeking community feedback to enhance the current API and plan future developments. Please share your thoughts on this page: [[d:Wikidata_talk:REST_API_feedback_round|Feedback on the Wikibase REST API (July/August 2024)]].

''' Newest [[d:Special:ListProperties|properties]] and [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Property proposal|property proposals]] to review '''

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* Newest General datatypes:
**[[:d:Property:P12849|coin edge image]] (<nowiki>image or images that show the edge of a coin</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12853|ozone depletion potential]] (<nowiki>relative amount of degradation to the ozone layer relative to CFC-11</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12861|EntitySchema for class]] (<nowiki>schema that members of a class should conform to</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12876|writing technique]] (<nowiki>technique used for writing on stone, paper or other support</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12878|last appearance]] (<nowiki>last work featuring a fictional character or item</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12883|Tüik mahalle ID]] (<nowiki>identifier of neighborhoods (mahalle) in Turkey in TÜİK (Turkish Statistical Institute) database</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12886|Sandbox-EntitySchema]] (<nowiki>Sandbox property for value of type "EntitySchema"</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12889|myfixguide.com Category ID]] (<nowiki>photos about how to repair hardware</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12895|indexer]] (<nowiki>entity responsible for compiling an index of a book, database, website or other forms of media publications in the form of a methodical arrangement of records designed to enable users to locate information quickly</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12912|object of action]] (<nowiki>specific object to which an action or class of actions occurs</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Property:P12913|object class of action]] (<nowiki>class of objects (including substances) to which an action or class of actions may occur</nowiki>)
* Newest External identifiers: [[:d:Property:P12848|Canadian Virtual War Memorial ID]], [[:d:Property:P12850|Personnel Records of the First World War ID]], [[:d:Property:P12851|Fowler’s Concise Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12852|NooSFere publisher ID]], [[:d:Property:P12854|Plex person key]], [[:d:Property:P12855|BHMPI OBJ ID]], [[:d:Property:P12856|Index Fungorum person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12857|stiga.trefik.cz player ID]], [[:d:Property:P12858|UNIBO professor ID]], [[:d:Property:P12859|Cineuropa international sales agent ID]], [[:d:Property:P12860|Mapes de Patrimoni Cultural ID]], [[:d:Property:P12862|Il Nuovo DOP ID]], [[:d:Property:P12863|RGALI person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12864|RGALI organization ID]], [[:d:Property:P12865|Archelec person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12866|Lojas com História ID]], [[:d:Property:P12867|milononline.net entry ID]], [[:d:Property:P12868|Hebrew Academy term ID]], [[:d:Property:P12869|LAGL author ID]], [[:d:Property:P12870|KANAL ID]], [[:d:Property:P12871|Google Play author ID]], [[:d:Property:P12872|‎Overcast episode ID]], [[:d:Property:P12873|ArchWiki article]], [[:d:Property:P12874|Valencian Library ID]], [[:d:Property:P12875|‎Star Wars.com ID]], [[:d:Property:P12877|ScienceDirect journal ID]], [[:d:Property:P12879|Filmová databáze film ID]], [[:d:Property:P12880|Filmová databáze person ID]], [[:d:Property:P12881|FC Krasnodar player ID]], [[:d:Property:P12882|Iraqnla book ID]], [[:d:Property:P12884|Alle Burgen ID]], [[:d:Property:P12885|Italian-English Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12887|islamway authority ID]], [[:d:Property:P12888|Metamath statement ID]], [[:d:Property:P12890|Imperial University of Dorpat student ID]], [[:d:Property:P12891|Coptic Dictionary Online ID]], [[:d:Property:P12892|English-Italian Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12893|autoritateak.eus ID]], [[:d:Property:P12894|Museum of the Russian Academy of Arts artist ID]], [[:d:Property:P12896|Nintendo Life company ID]], [[:d:Property:P12897|Wiley Online Library journal ID]], [[:d:Property:P12898|Museums in Russia ID]], [[:d:Property:P12899|Helveticat ID]], [[:d:Property:P12900|ARABTERM entry ID]], [[:d:Property:P12901|Hawramani Arabic Lexicon entry ID]], [[:d:Property:P12902|Women in Resistance ID]], [[:d:Property:P12903|French-English Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12904|German-English Dictionary ID]], [[:d:Property:P12905|Emerald Group Publishing journal ID]], [[:d:Property:P12906|Taylor & Francis journal ID]], [[:d:Property:P12907|JTA Sightseeing Database ID]], [[:d:Property:P12908|WorldCyclingStats ID]], [[:d:Property:P12909|The New Mithraeum ID]], [[:d:Property:P12910|Finnish Ministers database ID (new)]], [[:d:Property:P12911|State Historical Museum of Russia person ID]]
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* New General datatypes property proposals to review:
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/date de vote|date de vote]] (<nowiki>vote date, date on which people decided or cast their ballot</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Public funding|Public funding]] (<nowiki>amount of public funding an organisation receives</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/schmeckt nach|schmeckt nach]] (<nowiki>taste that a food or drink has</nowiki>)
**[[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Kunstnerforbundet kunstner ID|Kunstnerforbundet kunstner ID]] (<nowiki>Identifier for an artist member of Kunstnerforbundet in norway</nowiki>)
* New External identifier property proposals to review: [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Manhom Arabic Profile ID|Manhom Arabic Profile ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Thinkwiki article|Thinkwiki article]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/identifier of the educational center of resistance and deportation of Landes|identifier of the educational center of resistance and deportation of Landes]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/SideReel series ID|SideReel series ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/SideReel series URL slug|SideReel series URL slug]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/africanmusiclibrary.org artist id|africanmusiclibrary.org artist id]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Stichting Erfgoed Nederlandse Biercultuur beer ID|Stichting Erfgoed Nederlandse Biercultuur beer ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Glosbe Old High German Lexeme ID|Glosbe Old High German Lexeme ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Tretyakov Gallery artist ID|Tretyakov Gallery artist ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/U.S. Copyright Office Public Records System work ID|U.S. Copyright Office Public Records System work ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Encyclopaedia of Islam (french edition) ID|Encyclopaedia of Islam (french edition) ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/French Bathing water ID|French Bathing water ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Religion Past and Present Online (German edition) ID|Religion Past and Present Online (German edition) ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/mandumah ID|mandumah ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: English-German ID|Pocket Oxford German Dictionary: English-German ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: English-French ID|Pocket Oxford-Hachette French Dictionary: English-French ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Political Dictionary entry|Political Dictionary entry]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/United Nations Digital Library ID|United Nations Digital Library ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/identifiant FranceTerme|identifiant FranceTerme]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Yediot Books book ID|Yediot Books book ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/FDC ID|FDC ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/365scores player ID|365scores player ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/xdaforums|xdaforums]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/GamingOnLinux Database ID|GamingOnLinux Database ID]], [[:d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Akademický slovník současné češtiny ID|Akademický slovník současné češtiny ID]]
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You can comment on [[d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Overview|all open property proposals]]!

''' Did you know? '''
* Query examples:
** [https://w.wiki/7LpT Where were people who  went to space born?]
** [https://w.wiki/u4G Red Cross and Red Crescent societies]
** [https://w.wiki/4rGf Top 20 languages in number of Lexemes in Wikidata and percentage of Lexemes with at least one external ID]
* Newest [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:WikiProjects|WikiProjects]]:
** [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject Military Equipment in Policing|Military Equipment in Policing]] - Project to connect police equipment defined as military equipment to capabilities, uses, manufacturers, descriptions, etc.
** [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject Quran|Quran]] -  to collaborate on Quran-related topics and organise Quran Wikidatans; help others and get help whenever needed to improve Quran-related items (and properties); create Quran-specific tools' libraries, queries, and resources;
** [[d:Wikidata:WikiProject Sufism|Sufism]] - collaborate on Sufism-related topics
* Newest [[d:Wikidata:Database reports|database reports]]: [https://query.wikidata.org/index.html#%23%20Nouns%20without%20gender%20in%20a%20language%0ASELECT%20%3Fl%20%3Flemma%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%20%3Fl%20a%20ontolex%3ALexicalEntry%20%3B%20dct%3Alanguage%20%3Flanguage%20%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wikibase%3AlexicalCategory%20wd%3AQ1084%3B%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20wikibase%3Alemma%20%3Flemma%20.%0A%20%20%3Flanguage%20wdt%3AP1394%20%27hind1270%27%0A%20%20MINUS%20%7B%20%3Fl%20wdt%3AP5185%20%5B%5D.%20%7D%0A%7D%0AORDER%20BY%20%3Flemma Hindustani nouns without gender in a language]
* [[d:Wikidata:Showcase items|Showcase Items]]: [[d:Q37018433|Fugger (Q37018433)]] - family name
* [[d:Wikidata:Showcase lexemes|Showcase Lexemes]]: [[d:Lexeme:L3483|ikkje-vald (L3483)]] - Nynorsk noun, translates to "non-violence"

''' Development '''
* IP masking: The feature was rolled out to test wikis and we fixed a few issues uncovered by this.
* EntitySchemas: We are working to make it possible to search for the EntitySchema by its label and aliases when making a new statement linking to an EntitySchema ([[phab:T362005]])
* Integration in other Wikimedia projects: We are working on moving the Wikidata Item link from the tools section of the sidebar ([[phab:T66315]])
* REST API:
** We changed the data-type field to data_type in JSON responses ([[phab:T368130]])
** We are continuing the work on improving error handling and messages

[[phab:maniphest/query/4RotIcw5oINo/#R|You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here]]. If you want to help, you can also have a look at [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/71/query/zfiRgTnZF7zu/?filter=zfiRgTnZF7zu&order=priority the tasks needing a volunteer].

''' Weekly Tasks '''
* Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed [[d:Wikidata:Status_updates/Next#Newest_properties_and_property_proposals_to_review|above]].
* Contribute to the showcase Item and Lexeme [[d:Wikidata:Status_updates/Next#Did_you_know?|above]].
* Summarize your [[d:Wikidata:Status_updates/Next#Did_you_know?|WikiProject's ongoing activities]] in one or two sentences.
* Help [[d:Special:LanguageStats|translate]] or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
* [[d:User:Pasleim/projectmerge|Help merge identical items]] across Wikimedia projects.
* Help [[d:Wikidata:Status updates/Next|write the next summary!]]
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== Edit request ==

Hello, I wanted to add an entry to {{Q|11575}}, but it seems to be protected. Can any of you add مکابؤج [[:glk:مکابؤج|(link)]] from Gilaki wikipedia (glk) to {{Q|11575}}?[[User:Mehrshad Mehdi pour|Mehrshad Mehdi pour]] ([[User talk:Mehrshad Mehdi pour|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
: {{Done}}. --[[User:Wolverène|Wolverène]] ([[User talk:Wolverène|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks. [[User:Mehrshad Mehdi pour|Mehrshad Mehdi pour]] ([[User talk:Mehrshad Mehdi pour|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 10:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC)