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:::I'm not sure what tidbits you want to extract here. We already, as you say, have two paragraphs on Favaro and her research interviewing academics and her being cancelled. I don't think WEIGHT would allow us to select her own cherry picked quotes from her own research. While you say they interviewed all sides, these are all quotes that conveniently align with the case she wants to make. Nobody is quoted about how relieved they are that so-and-so left, or that they roll their eyes every time someone blames the academic "Thought Police" while reading Telegraph articles about how some Tory MP wants to ban gender ideology from schools, etc. It seems, like so many things on all sides of this war, to be research designed to be eagerly quoted and credulously repeated by one side, and mocked as hopelessly biased and written with All The Wrong Words by the other side. Would be better to have more independent secondary sources on this, and alas if such are lacking then there is a limit to what we can say. -- [[User:Colin|Colin]]°[[User talk:Colin|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 10:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
::::All fair points. TBH, I'm mostly disappointed that we likely won't get any quantitive research out of this now. [[User:Void if removed|Void if removed]] ([[User talk:Void if removed|talk]]) 16:19, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
:A footnote there (footnote 25 on p. 668) gives some commentary on the term "TERF", which has been under much debate in this talk page:
:{{quote frame |The acronym TERF stands for “trans-exclusionary radical feminist”. The term is widely rejected by those to whom it refers, namely feminists, notwithstanding some recent defiant appropriations in grassroots activism and online (where there is merchandise on offer with messages such as “TERF is the new punk” or “TERFology: Believe in reality”). First, it fails as a descriptor. The feminist movement includes all women, regardless of their identifications (as “transgender men” or any other label). Furthermore, those that TERF purports to describe represent a range of perspectives, not only those of radical feminism. Second, it is “a word that has come to signify a modern witch [...] imposed on women to shut them up, bully them, condemn them, smear them, humiliate them, and dismiss them. But more than that: it is a threat” (Murphy, 2017). The term is often used alongside threats of and calls for violence, including death and rape. See, for example, the website “documenting the abuse, harassment and misogyny of transgender identity politics”: https://terfisaslur.com[02/05/2024].}} [[User:Dtobias|&#42;Dan T.*]] ([[User talk:Dtobias|talk]]) 21:39, 15 July 2024 (UTC)