Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Graham Drury

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 04:28, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Graham Drury

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Contested PROD. Concern was Hasn't managed a league club and is also an article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested on the grounds that he manages a Conference South team with sizeable support. Conference South not being fully pro means managing a club in that league does not confer notability, and support the club gets has no bearing on notability whatsoever. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:30, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 15:37, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete; fails WP:NFOOTBALL/etc. —Theo polisme 17:58, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - How can the size of support of the club he is managing NOT be relevant to notability? Article does not fail WP:GNG or WP:NFOOTBALL as these merely down criteria for 'presumption' of notability. The absence of such presumption doesn't mean he can't be deemed notable, merely that notability cannot be automatically inferred and the case has to be made. The case being that he manages a notable football club. Slicesofjim (talk) 20:21, 20 December 2012 (UTC) — Slicesofjim (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

The case that you would need to make to overcome the lack of presumption of notability per WP:NFOOTBALL is to show that Drury has had significant coverage in independent reliable sources. The only source cited in the article that is independent and reliable is the BBC one, but that just mentions one incident in Drury's career. Do you know of any other such sources that cover him in more detail? Phil Bridger (talk) 19:28, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Working in a notable football club does not inherit notability (WP:INHERITED). Also the football manager fails WP:NFOOTY and WP:GNG. – Kosm1 fent 16:27, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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