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Princes is of mixed race descent

Princes fathers was Half Italian.--95.114.32.180 (talk) 18:16, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Giving info about the plane incident

Can we add that the plane incident was due to an overdose? This seems an accepted part of Prince's life story and should be on his wiki page for people who are reading about the events leading up to his death. For example:

" Representatives claimed he suffered from dehydration and had had influenza for several weeks"

Would be better if it became:

"Representatives claimed he suffered from dehydration and had had influenza for several weeks although it was later revealed after Prince’s death that the Moline visit was due to a Percocet overdose and Prince’s flu-like symptoms were withdrawals as he was being weaned off drugs." -- or something similar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.187.39.54 (talk) 05:32, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Prince's statement before dying

the sentence "He shopped that evening at the Electric Fetus in Minneapolis for Record Store Day and made a brief appearance at an impromptu dance party at his Paisley Park recording studio complex; although he did not perform, he stated to the crowd that he felt fine" should add the fact that Prince also told the crowd to "wait a few days before you waste any prayers", which i feel was a significant statement from a man who died a few days later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.187.39.54 (talk) 05:32, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

prince didn't know it was fentanyl

Can someone add that investigators are saying the pill prince took was laced with fentanyl meaning there's a very probable chance he didn't know what he was taking? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.187.39.54 (talk) 05:35, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Prince's sales in the united states at the end of 2016

Prince was the best selling album artist of 2016 beating Adele, he sold 2,23 million albums . On the other hand he sold 5,4 (*) million digital songs during 2016 in the United States

sources: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7647018/drake-views-nielsen-music-top-album-2016-us

        http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-music-sales-nielsen-year-end-20170105-story.html  (*)
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2017/01/25/prince-was-the-bestselling-albums-artist-of-2016-beating-adele/#6978c53c1608  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.47.104.250 (talk) 02:59, 1 February 2017 (UTC) :

another page with the same information : http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7767819/prince-sold-more-albums-than-any-artist-2016 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.45.225.152 (talk) 22 April 2017

Add Linn LM-1 (drum machine) to notable instruments

Thanks Younusmogul (talk) 17:21, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

@Younusmogul: Is there a reliable source saying he used that instrument? DBZFan30 (talk) 18:45, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2017

The New Official Website is Missing. it is http://www.officialprincemusic.com/ and has a store as well at http://store.officialprincemusic.com/. this is the official site and store for Prince Music Run by Catalog Rights Owner Warner Bros. Records in conjunction with the Prince Estate.

can you please add under External Links these properties to the wikipedia page for the benefit of the readers

thank you Fuzzik15 (talk) 01:59, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

 Not done. I see the website is owned by Warner Music Group Corp, but the site does not seem about prince, only about selling his music. Wikipedia is not used for advertising. See WP:LINKSPAM and WP:NOTADVERTISING. If someone wants to buy his music, they can just search the internet. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:46, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

prince legacy section

i believe prince needs a legacy and cultural impact section in his article. would be great if he could have one.

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New Prince picture

could you change prince's picture to a Purple Rain era photograph instead of one at the end of his life? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.224.79.37 (talk • contribs)

Not done: Do you have a free image of Prince available for us to use? Izno (talk) 12:23, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Is there a compelling reason to make this change? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.183.152.209 (talk) 02:18, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Death of Prince article

If you take a look at this revision of the Death of Prince article, you'll see that Prince's death has received a ton of coverage in the media and there were a ton of events leading up to Prince's death. I think redirecting that article to the main Prince article was a stupid decision since the death article had 70+ sources before it was a redirect. If you want Prince's death to have a separate article, say Agree. If you think whatever is in the "Illness and death" section in the main Prince article is enough, say Disagree. Meters, I want you to participate in this discussion RIGHT NOW. 50.226.46.222 (talk) 22:32, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Death of Prince was redirected at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Death of Prince. This SPA IP has now recreated the article 3 times (including four minutes after opening this discussion) and Reactions to the death of Prince once (redirected at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reactions to the death of Prince as bundled with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Death of Prince).

What the IP thinks of the AFD close is irrelevant here. The AFD was well-discussed and the close (redirect with a possibility of splitting later) appeared solid. This isn't the venue to contest the close. What we need to look at is whether the topic is now notable enough to warrant splitting from the main article. The IP's edit summaries, such as This is a very important event in music history. Not many people in this generation know who Prince was, and the news reports aren't enough to make this man famous again. Share this article with everyone you know and Make Prince Famous Again! and Created article because this is clearly a notable and important event in music history. Prince Rogers Nelson is the greatest musician who ever lived, and people really need to be aware of others when they die. The news reports aren't enough, so share this are not convincing. Meters (talk) 23:03, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Has something changed since the AFD was closed? Is there enough new material to warrant a separate article now? The IP's edit summaries don't indicate that.

I've also redirected teh recently created Prince Rogers Nelson‎ to Prince (musician) as an obvious case for a redirect (birth name redirected to common name) with no discussion needed. Meters (talk) 23:19, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

@Meters: I took a look at both the AFDs and most of the users said delete. Only two users (Purple Showers and Whiskeymouth) wanted to keep the article, and I agree with them. It appears that you and the other users who said delete don't like Prince at all. If you don't like Prince or his articles, then don't edit any of his pages. There is nothing that limits me from creating articles from redirects. I'm only trying to make more people aware of Prince and his death. Leave me and Prince alone right now. 50.226.46.222 (talk) 00:51, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

It does not work that way. You don't get to yell at me here and on my[your] talk page to respond right away, and then tell me to stay away from this. And you don't get to decide all on your own that the AFD decisions to redirect were incorrect. The AFDs were closed. If you think they were closed incorrectly then ask for a review of the decisions. If you think that there is now sufficient new material to warrant splitting the article then argue the case here. If there is consensus that the article should be split then it will be. And by the way, I don't know what AFDs you were reading, but clearly it wasn't the ones to do with these articles. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Death of Prince had something like 55 editors in favour of either deleting it or redirecting it vs only 30 in favour of keeping it, while Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reactions to the death of Prince was overwhelmingly against keeping the article (close to 50 deleted, a few redirects or merges, and 2 keeps). And despite your claim above, I didn't participate in either of those AFDs. Meters (talk) 06:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

@Meters: You're wrong. I have every right to yell at anyone for any reason. When I say "participate in this discussion right now," you have to participate. If you don't like a certain article, ignore it instead of reverting my edits. Prince's death is notable because there were a ton of sources talking about it back in 2016 AND there were a ton of events leading up to his death. The death of Prince should have its own article, regardless of notability (which doesn't matter anyway). 50.226.46.222 (talk) 13:30, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Notability doesn't matter? Good luck with that. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 16:53, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Prince a singer-songwriter?

I don't think so. That's why I propose to change the opening sentence of the article from: "Prince Rogers Nelson (June 7, 1958 – April 21, 2016) was an American singer-songwriter, actor, multi-instrumentalist, philanthropist, dancer and record producer." to: "Prince Rogers Nelson (June 7, 1958 – April 21, 2016) was an American singer, multi-instrumentalist, songwriter, record producer, dancer, actor and philanthropist."

I think this order reflects what he was known for the best. Most remember him as a singer, then a multi-instrumentalist, etc.

What are your thoughts?

DJ FunkFunk 00:26, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Agree with that, although it is perhaps somewhat excessive. Instead of multi-instrumentalist I would say guitarist, as he is *really* noted for that. I'm not sure if he is a notable dancer, the article does not mention this? Considering he did not speak about his philanthropy I wonder if he should be seen in the same bracket as someone as Warren Buffett for instance. I notice the infobox has less 'qualifications' so to speak. Karst (talk) 20:04, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

He should not be listed as a "singer-songwriter". Despite the name, the phrase "singer-songwriter" refers to a specific genre of folk-inflected light pop music that reached its hey day in the 1970s. Prince is not that. He is a singer, and he is a songwriter, but the hyphenated term is incorrect here. --Jayron32 00:23, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

OK, taking all the above into account, I changed the sentence and the infobox in "singer, multi-instrumentalist, songwriter and record producer". Thanks! DJ FunkFunk 07:50, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

2016-present: Posthumous projects

I would like to make the following changes/additions under this paragraph:

The first album released following Prince's death was a greatest hits album, 4ever, which was released on November 22, 2016. The album contains one previously unreleased song: "Moonbeam Levels", recorded in 1982 during the 1999 sessions.

On April 19, 2017, an EP featuring six unreleased Prince recordings, titled Deliverance, was announced, with an expected release date for later that week. The next day, Prince's estate was granted a temporary restraining order against George Ian Boxill - an engineer who co-produced the tracks and was in possession of the master tapes - and halted the release of the EP.

On February 9, 2017, Prince's estate signed a distribution deal with Universal Music Group, which includes the post-1995 recordings on his NPG Records label and unreleased tracks from his vault. However, on June 27, Comerica (acting on behalf of the estate) requested that Carver County District Judge Kevin Eide cancel the estate's deal with Universal, as UMG's contract would interfere with a contract with Warner Music Group that Prince signed in 2014; WMG would lose the rights to Prince's pre-1993 library in 2021. After Universal's attorneys were granted access to the Warner contract, the attorneys also offered to cancel the deal. On July 13, the court voided Universal's deal with Prince's estate, though Universal will continue to administer Prince's songwriting credits and create merchandise.

On June 23, 2017, Purple Rain was released as a Deluxe and Deluxe Expanded edition. It is the first Prince album to be remastered and reissued. The Deluxe edition consists of two discs, the first being a remaster of the original album made in 2015 overseen by Prince himself and a bonus disc of previously unreleased songs called "From the Vault & Previously Unreleased". The Deluxe Expanded edition consists of two more discs, a disc with all the single edits, maxi-single edits and b-sides from the Purple Rain era and a DVD with a concert from the Purple Rain Tour filmed in Syracuse, New York on March 30, 1985, previously released on home video in 1985. The album debuted at No. 4 on the Bilboard 200 and at No. 1 on both the Billboard R&B Albums Chart and the Billboard Vinyl Albums Chart

What do y'all think? DJ FunkFunk 17:38, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

References

I stumbled over the first sentence. The construction "to be materialized" is a little odd, to say the least. Rivertorch^FIRE_WATER 19:42, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I changed the first sentence in: "The first album released..." DJ FunkFunk 20:58, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Who administers the estate and how future releases are organized is very relevant and should be included IMHO. I am not sure about the last paragraph. The Prince Vault source is a fanblog. Was this release not confirmed in a more reliable source? I also think that detailing the release perhaps is better placed in the Discography page. Karst (talk) 21:04, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

The fact that The Prince Vault is an unofficial, independent website (not a fan blog per se) doesn't make it less reliable. Actually, in my experience it's sometimes more accurate than Wikipedia! However I added another source: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7776693/prince-purple-rain-expanded-edition-june-23 I don't think it's a problem to mention the exact release date of the Purple Rain reissue. There are more release dates for Prince albums in this article. But also mentioning it on his Discography page is a good idea, but where? Maybe a new section with posthumous releases should be added? DJ FunkFunk 23:10, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, in combination it is passable, the issue is more the editorial rigour of Billboard as opposed to an self-confessed 'unoffical' blog. I have no problem with the release date, just perhaps the detail. IMHO it is sufficient to mention that a remastered version was released and details about what sets available can be moved to both the Discography and Purple Rain pages. Karst (talk) 19:55, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you all for your thoughts on this. Taking the above discussion into account I will now change the section in the article. DJ FunkFunk 07:52, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Proposal to move section 'Posthumous projects'

I would like to propose to place the section dealing with Prince's 'posthumous projects' behind the section about his 'illness and death'. This makes sence from a chronological pount of view. Also the posthumous projects aren't part of his career. DJ FunkFunk 15:04, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Prince's only child in info box

I made a change in the info box by adding the name of Prince's only child and also the year of birth and death. In this way people who only take a glance at the info box and not familiar with his personal life will see in a glance that his only child is not alive anymore. Tell me what you think. DJ FunkFunk 15:19, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

That is not in compliance with the infobox documentation. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:22, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

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The Lewis Connection

Prince is also listed on The Lewis Connection lp from 1979 (spelled The Lewis Conection on the cover). He is credited with background vocals and guitar for the song "Got to Be Something Here". It is debated if he is actually on the recording.2607:FEA8:1360:7B3:F8B2:E707:B61C:690C (talk) 01:40, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Horrifying name inconsistencies

The mixing of his names, here as Prince and there as Ƭ̵̬̊ or "Ƭ̵̬̊", is very confusing and a Wikipedia atrocity that someone should clean up. "Numerous musicians and cultural figures reacted to Ƭ̵̬̊'s death", etc. Looks just awful. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 02:25, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Non-free use of "Love symbol"

Each use of a non-free image is required to have a fair use rationale provided for it per WP:NFCC#10c. So, if the "love symbol" is used 10 times in this article, then that's ten separate and specific non-free use rationales which need to be provided for just the uses in this article alone. While I can see a possiblilities for non-free use in the main infobox and once in the description of the symbol itself, using it so many times throughout the article in place of "Prince" is not going to meet WP:NFCC#3a which means even adding a rationale is not going to comply with policy per WP:JUSTONE. If it's inaccurate to refer to Prince as "Prince" during this period, then perhaps "The Artist formerly known as Prince" can be used instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:50, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Ƭ̵̬̊ vs the Love Symbol

In the article, we use Ƭ̵̬̊ as a textual version of the Love Symbol. However, Ƭ̵̬̊ at best only approximates the Love Symbol, and I cannot find any record of Price ever using "Ƭ̵̬̊" himself as a replacement for the symbol. It appears that this encoding was identified by a community effort[1] to "hack" Unicode symbols, but, to me, that does not rise to the level required for us to include it in the article (much less as a pseudo-"official" encoding of the symbol). I can find no justification in the WP:MOS that defends this usage. At this point, it's clear that Ƭ̵̬̊ should be removed from the article.

However, that brings us to the question of what to replace it with. The obvious choice would be the Love Symbol itself. However, as discussed in:

• Talk:Prince_(musician)/Archive_4#Non-free_use_of_"Love_symbol"
• Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/Archive_64#File:Prince_logo.svg
• Wikipedia_talk:Non-free_content/Archive_68#File:Prince_logo.svg
• Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2015_November_7#File:Prince_logo.svg
• Wikipedia:Non-free_content_review/Archive_9#File:Prince_logo.svg
• Wikipedia:Non-free_content_review/Archive_23#File:Prince_logo.svg

the Love Symbol is not free. Each and every use of the symbol must have a fair-use rationale attached, and we should strive to minimize the number of uses of non-free media (WP:NFCC). As it stands, there are currently only two uses of Ƭ̵̬̊ in the article (one in the lead, and one in the infobox), and I think both of those uses can be justified under NFCC. I am going to replace these two uses, and add additional FUR to File:Prince_logo.svg, and clarify the FUR for the existing use of the Love Symbol in this article.

If you have any discussion on this issue, I'm interested in hearing it. I've seen this discussed numerous times, but no consensus is ever reached. Instead, my interpretation of the removal is that the symbol is always removed based on the missing FURs, not necessarily on improper use.--Nick2253 (talk) 17:35, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@Nick2253: I agree with including it, and you appear to be aware of the fact that it's non-free and have made the necessary adjustments to include it. Personally I didn't understand why we needed the Unicode character and didn't really think an approximation was the best thing to do. Ss112 11:26, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Associated acts

The current list of associated acts is not complete:

• 94 East
• The Time
• Vanity 6
• The Revolution
• The Family
• Wendy & Lisa
• Mazarati
• Sheena Easton
• Sheila E.
• Madhouse
• The New Power Generation
• Chaka Khan
• 3rdeyegirl

I think more acts should be included, preferrably the acts which "collaborated with Prince on multiple occasions, or on an album" (taken from the guideline Template:Infobox musical artist#associated acts). If we only include the albums where Prince was involved in at least two songs as a writer, performer and/or producer, the list would also include:

• Apollonia 6
• Taja Sevelle
• Madonna
• Mavis Staples
• Patti Labelle
• Kahoru Kohiruimaki
• Eric Leeds
• Elisa Fiorillo
• Jevetta Steele
• T.C. Ellis
• Martika
• Loïs Lane
• Ingrid Chavez
• Carmen Electra
• Louie Louie
• Monie Love
• George Clinton
• Tevin Campbell
• Rosie Gaines
• Mayte
• Larry Graham
• Maceo Parker
• Bria Valente
• Any Allo
• Liv Warfield
• Judith Hill

I also think Candy Dulfer should be included since she collaborated with Prince on several albums and performed with him on different tours for many many years.

So I think for completion sake, we should add all these acts, preferably in alphabetical order. DJ FunkFunk 19:17, 4 April 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djfunkfunk (talk • contribs)

I think the reader is better served by a shorter list in the infobox, concentrating on the most important artists that have been the most widely associated with Prince in the media. Let's not overwhelm the reader with an indiscriminate collection of information. If Prince produced a couple of songs or wrote a couple of songs for an artist, we should be asking are these songs among the most important ones of his career? Let's be very discriminating.

A point of consideration is that less famous artists might list Prince as associated acts because of the significance he had on their careers, but they would not have so much influence on Prince's career.

Alphabetical order does not convey any sense of importance or chronology to the reader, so I don't agree with you on that. I always prefer that lists are ordered chronologically or by importance, with the most important on top. Binksternet (talk) 17:54, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your post. If we concentrate on the most important associated acts, I still think we should add a few. To me the list as it is, is very arbitrary. Vanity 6 but not Apollonia 6? The Family but not Jill Jones? Madhouse but not Eric Leeds? Chaka Khan but not Mavis Staples? So I think two groups of associated acts should be mentioned:

1. (Less famous) Acts that released one or more albums with a significant amount of Prince involvement. Already included:

• 94 East
• The Time
• Vanity 6
• Sheila E.
• The Family
• Wendy & Lisa
• Mazarati
• Madhouse

I propose to add:

• Apollonia 6
• Jill Jones
• Eric Leeds
• Bria Valente

2. Acts that were already artists in their own right with whom Prince had a long working relationship with over the years. Already included:

• Sheena Easton
• Chaka Khan

I propose to add:

• Mavis Staples
• Patti Labelle
• George Clinton
• Maceo Parker
• Larry Graham
• Candy Dulfer

DJ FunkFunk 23:41, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

(Another) "new" album

Per BBC source (below) there will be a 9-track (35 min.) album of previously unreleased music from Warner Bros., titled Piano & A Microphone 1983. This was mentioned (but not specified) in the source for the Tidal release, which does not contain any songs from this WB album.

• Source:  "New Prince album announced on birthday". BBC News. 7 June 2018.

Please add this information to the article. —2606:A000:1126:4CA:0:98F2:CFF6:1782 (talk) 08:09, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Super Bowl show tribute

There is also a Super Bowl (Superbowl LII) half time show after Prince died done in tribute to him? At least one song, Purple Rain, if I remember correctly. It is not mentioned in this article at all. 32.212.102.239 (talk) 06:01, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

the vs The

I noticed someone changed quite a few 'the's' in the article which I find disturbing: 'the Time' instead of 'The Time', 'the Revolution' instead of 'The Revolution', 'the New Power Generation' instead of 'The New Power Generation'... Is there any valid reason to use 'the' instead of 'The'? If not I propose using 'The'. That's the way you can find it anywhere in publications. DJ FunkFunk 15:45, 23 September 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djfunkfunk (talk • contribs)

Keys in infobox

I think it would be very fair and accurate to include "keyboards" or "piano" among instruments in Prince's infobox. He was a very skilled pianist who used extensive synthesizers and keyboards in his recorded work; his final tour was a series of solo performances on vocals and piano. Zabboo talk 22:39, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

I would agree with this proposal. Sources can easily be found. He did lots of drums by himself as well. — JFG ^talk 02:46, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

First name

Is there really any need to have "best known as Prince"? The article title is Prince (musician).--92.29.145.81 (talk) 17:40, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Agreed, not needed. This is more than evident by the page title. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:46, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

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Vandalism

• [2] --87.162.164.192 (talk) 23:03, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Grammy's

Prince won 7, not 8. 92.7.38.194 (talk) 09:52, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Correction made. Thanks for spotting the error.---A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 11:57, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Say what?

"Following an autopsy, his remains were cremated... Bremer Trust was given temporary control of his estate, had his vault drilled open, and was authorized to obtain a blood sample for DNA profiling"

If his remains were cremated there would have been nothing in the vault but ashes. How did they get a "blood sample" or DNA from cremains? Or did they? Clarification needed here.

@70.89.176.249: - It seems that the blood samples were taken from the medical examiner who performed the autopsy after Prince died. I agree that this could probably be clearer, so I've gone ahead and made an edit to disambiguate this. --FrostFairBlade (talk) 18:04, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

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Missing book that he authored

The books section is missing the book, "21 Nights", authored by Prince with photography by Randee St Nicholas: https://www.amazon.com/21-Nights-Prince/dp/1416554440/ref=sr_1_1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leischj (talk • contribs) 17:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

"guitar virtuoso"?

Prince was a guitar "virtuoso"? Isn't that overstating the case a bit? Reads very fanboi-ish. I understand that he has beloved and admired by many but, objectively, he was a thoroughly average guitarist.

Pgilman (talk) 20:54, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

I'd say he was far above average as a guitarist, but agree "virtuoso" is over the top as is the rest of this part of the lede: "A guitar virtuoso known for his genre-crossing work, wide-ranging singing voice and flamboyant stage appearances, Prince is regarded as one of the greatest musicians in the history of popular music." Really? And the source for this? A blurb written to sell tickets for an Albert Hall showing of the Prince symphonic tribute, 4U. Actually, the source supports only the word "virtuoso", while its phrase "one of the greatest showmen of all time" was twisted to become "one of the greatest musicians in the history of popular music".

However, I question other parts of the lede as well. For example, there is no source for the claim of 130 million records sold, and if you look at the Prince albums discography article, you'll find his sales are somewhere around 100 million. That, by the way, is a claim and not the certified number, which as given in Wikipedia's List of best-selling music artists is 65.5 million. Meanwhile, no matter which number you accept, Prince is only "one of the best-selling music artists of all time" if you concede that 50 some artists have done better. Allreet (talk) 05:01, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

CORRECTION: The source, The Daily News, does mention "a reported 130 million" but where you'll find that figure most on the internet is sources that may be echoing the Wikipedia article. Therein lies an immense problem: Wikipedia echoing what others echo from Wikipedia. Allreet (talk) 05:56, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2020

His father was a pianist and songwriter and his mother was a jazz singer. He became interested in music at a young age and was encouraged by his parents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.198.2.216 (talk) 22:22, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:49, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2020

Citation needed for Personal Life

The first paragraph of the Personal Life section needs more citations to back-up the information being provided, specifically for the names of his romantic partners, regardless of whether their relationships are widely known or not; the sentences focusing on Mayte Garcia - the "There's my future wife" quote in particular - especially need a "citation needed" tag. Ohjord (talk) 23:18, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Agreed. I added a template for the opening sentence and will dig up a source for the "future wife" passage, which is somewhat innocuous since they did marry. Allreet (talk) 00:49, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

 Already done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 23:51, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Edit infobox for consistency with other musician Wiki pages to include all instruments played.

I would like to request that additional instruments be added to the infobox that Prince was well known to have played that are acknowledged in the first paragraph (drums, percussion, bass, keyboard and synthesizer). I understand that only primary instruments are included in the infobox, but this is inconsistent with Wiki pages for other musicians where ALL instruments they play(ed) are included. An example is the Wiki page for Lenny Kravitz. Thank you for considering my request. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LindaXavier (talk • contribs) 04:52, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Unpronounceable?

" ... he changed his stage name to an unpronounceable symbol ..."

Well, it's un-cut-and-pasteable, anyway. But not unpronounceable -- I always thought it was a fancy letter "T", and my friends and I called him "Tee" through that era. Quite easy to pronounce, actually. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.176.249 (talk) 01:17, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

"Prince had a fraught relationship with his half brother Baker"

"Prince had a fraught relationship with his half brother Baker..." Is this referring to his half brother, Omarr, mentioned in the previous sentence? I presume the kid's name is Omarr Baker, but the above sentence states that it was his relationship with Omarr that caused him to periodically leave the home. Surely, it was his stepfather with the last name Baker that is meant. This sentence needs to read ""Prince had a fraught relationship with his stepfather Baker"" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Interzone826 (talk • contribs) 09:09, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Prince's sales at the end of 2016

Prince sold 8.1 million records in the USA during 2016. 2.3 million albums and 5.4 million singles. He beat Adele in album sales.

source: http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7767819/prince-sold-more-albums-than-any-artist-2016

The article also states that the total digital singles Prince has sold since Nielsen began tracking the digital format (2003) is 18.64 million downloads — Preceding unsigned comment added by Interzone826 (talk • contribs) 09:11, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2020

I want all articles and countries to remove a ban and a view source feature. Sophia2023 (talk) 13:58, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

•  Not done You will be able to edit articles that are semi-protected once your account is 4 days old and has made at least 10 edits. Mdaniels5757 (talk) 14:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2020

Citation needed: References to Chris Moon can be found in this interview: https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8359047/prince-chris-moon-pre-fame TheTroothFairy (talk) 13:41, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 14:06, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Edit request for 2000–2007: Turnaround – Musicology and 3121 section

There's a typo in the sentence regarding Freddie Gray and the single "Baltimore". Can someone update that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Louisfriend0473 (talk • contribs) 22:37, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Fixed it. Thanks for bringing attention to it. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 01:04, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit requeprincest on 21 June 2020

2409:4063:2290:D109:298F:A1F4:EE0F:B893 (talk) 05:50, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:35, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Add Camille?

I'm curious why Camille isn't listed under the pseudonyms and think it should be. Otaku no bfm (talk) 23:43, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

industrial

I'd be interested to hear what somebody thought Prince's music had to do with industrial music. ("Prince's innovative music integrated a wide variety of styles, including funk, R&B, rock, new wave, soul, synth-pop, psychedelia, pop, industrial, and hip hop.") 63.229.172.93 (talk) 20:59, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

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Pantone Love Symbol #2

The RGB and HEX values are approximations. https://river967.com/princes-official-purple-now-a-recognized-pantone-color/

Even the pantone number is an approximation. PANTONE 19-3528 TCX is Imperial Purple https://www.pantone.com/color-finder/19-3528-TCX

The archive of the press release does not give more specific information. https://web.archive.org/web/20171214011722/https://www.pantone.com/the-prince-estate-and-pantone-unveil-love-symbol-number-2 Govtrust (talk) 18:12, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Prince's ancestry

Even though most sources falsely call Prince's parents as African-American/Black, they are white passing and Prince is mixed-race and can pass as white. They have mostly European ancestry, also African and Native American. This is a stereotype of White supremacy and One Drop Rule. Prince is not exclusively black. Sophiam122 (talk • contribs) 23:28, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Bull puckey! His father was black. Period. Look it up. 73.114.21.50 (talk) 18:03, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Genetics determine the race and ancestry. DNA does not lie! 96.224.89.222 (talk) 16:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Fake Photo of Prince Should Be Removed.

The section "2000–2007: Musicology and 312" features a photo of a Prince impersonator that someone wants you to believe is the real person. It is not and should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lopsidedwin (talk • contribs) 13:07, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Lopsidedwin: File:Yul-Anderson-and-Prince-in-Cannes.jpg this one? Great Mercian (talk) 17:28, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, that is clearly not Prince and this person is using a fake photo to bolster his own reputation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lopsidedwin (talk • contribs) 08:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

I've removed the image, but not necessarily for the reasons stated above. The other picture subject is notable, and in the same area that Prince was well known for. There is no reason to accuse the image of being a fake, but there is the question of what benefit does this image add to the article? None at all as far as I can see. It's not a great image, the other person is slightly in front of Prince, and it's relatively low resolution. Given the BLP nature of the article, the safest option is to remove. Chaheel Riens (talk) 09:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Opinion in First Paragraph

The current second sentence of this article reads "He is widely regarded as one of the greatest musicians of his generation.". I like Prince's music a lot, but that's a pretty outlandish claim for an encyclopedia. Remove? Reword? 2600:8802:5200:3830:2DD4:FB7E:8B51:D234 (talk) 09:07, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

It seems to be supported by the rest of the article. The very first sentence of the Artistry and legacy section says the same thing with source, and the section itself backs up the claim. I suppose we could stand to lose the "widely", as it seems superfluous, but otherwise, it's ok? Chaheel Riens (talk) 13:12, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Minnesota Black Music Association

What are the issues with added material regarding the award given to Prince by the Minnesota Black Music Association (MBMA) awards program in 1997? He was awarded their very first "Best Artist Award" ever issued by the association. I am aware that the association was not well known nationwide and does not have a Wikipedia page itself but it has historical state significance and it is referenced on the Minnesota Historical Society (MHS) .org page. This is historical information about the artist that shows the impact and the amount of respect the association had for him as an artist and a Minnesota native. Foxcraze 11:11, 16 April 2018 (EST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Foxcraze (talk • contribs)

First paragraph, a [by whom] needs removed

In the first paragraph, there's a [by whom?] tag that needs removed as this question is answered in the [3] reference tag at the end of the sentence in question.

Hyperlink in personal life

their is a hyperlink in the personal life header called YesWeCode that instead redirects to Van Jones' wikipedia article instead of a YesWeCode article which i don't think even exists

Semi-protected edit request on 2 April 2021

"and was sometimes referred to as The Artist Formerly Known as Prince or KATAFP," Change KATAFP to TAFKAP 86.6.228.4 (talk) 21:55, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:18, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Industrial? Country?

Who put industrial and country? Prince has never made industrial music or country music, and I think saying he does basically counts as vandalism. They definitely DO NOT HAVE A SOURCE, and yet somehow it's there? Please remove this.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Dark Lord Thomas Pie (talk • contribs) 14:40, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

The Greatest

I love Prince and his body of work, but the statement that he is "widely considered one of the greatest musicians" just feels a lot like opinion. It feels like there would be critics out there who would have published articles that would have supporting statements for that, perhaps they can be added? Or perhaps a word other than greatest could be used - most accomplished? Most influential? As it appears now, it feels very opinion-y or POV. 2603:8001:2A00:7428:8DCA:EE99:8EE3:82F4 (talk) 14:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

This was answered at Talk:Prince_(musician)/Archive_4#Opinion_in_First_Paragraph when someone (you?) asked it a month ago, the statement is supported by a source later in the article. --Lord Belbury (talk) 16:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Was Prince "Thrown Out By His Father After He Was Caught In Bed With A Girl Aged 12"?

I've read it on "Daily Mail", which isn't considered a reliable source (probably that's why the wiki editor won't let me even give the link to the article). But there is Larry Elder quating that source, and there is diffuser. What's the truth about it? Of course, if it's true, we should add it to the article. Yanivshn (talk) 10:52, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Prince's change of opinion on homosexuality

I think the article should mention something about Prince's changing opinion on homosexuality; it was a controversial footnote in his history where many of his fans felt betrayed. In an interview with Claire Hoffman for the New Yorker in 2008, she said "...he told me he was against gay marriage. In his library, ­standing over the Bible, he said, "God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever, and he just cleared it all out. He was, like, 'Enough.'" (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/11/24/soup-with-prince)

When Hoffman discusses it on Billboard, she said, "The reaction to that statement from fans, and particularly the gay community, was angry and distressed." In the same article, Wendy Melvoin of Revolution spoke about why Prince declined a tour with them in 2000: "'He declined because of my homosexuality and the fact I'm half-Jewish.'...She was told he wanted her to give a press conference denouncing her homosexuality and announcing that she was converting to Jehovah." (https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/magazine-feature/7348538/prince-jehovahs-witness-life/).

There's an Atlantic article about it here: https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/04/prince-gay-homophobia-conservative-liberal-progress/479502/

Prince's opinion change was also discussed in Ernest Cline's "Ready Player Two." Ch. 21

Sundown 7 (talk) 21:23, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2021

Please replace

the first full-service library for African-Americans in the country

with

the country's first full-service library for African-Americans

It's just a little shorter and simpler. 64.203.186.84 (talk) 18:30, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:32, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Height

I know there's a parameter for height in the infobox, but it's not used. So how tall was Prince? - kosboot (talk) 10:36, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Even if we could find a reference for it, it probably shouldn't be added to the article, as it's trivial and not relevant to his musicianship or any other aspect of his biography. If you just want to know for your own interest, googling the phrase "Prince height" turns up a number of answers, which are not all consistent, but seem to give a range of values within about an inch (2.5 cm) of each other. --Jayron32 14:05, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

This is not my kind of music at all, but I was curious because of a NY Times review of an exhibit - the entirety of which is just a selection of Prince's shoes: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/03/fashion/shoe-obsession-for-the-ages-princes-killer-collection-of-custom-heels-now-on-view.html That he seemed to favor very high heels suggest to me he was kinda short - I was hoping for some confirmation. - kosboot (talk) 18:11, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

He was. If you google the height, you'll get several values, all of which is significantly shorter than the average male adult height. Whatever his actual height was to the exact inch/cm may not be known, but the imprecise estimates I am seeing do all seem to indicate a shorter-than-average stature. Seriously. You can google it. --Jayron32 18:16, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 September 2021

Well, according to Time Magazine, Prince "had been raised a Seventh Day Adventist, but in 2001 he converted to the Jehovah’s Witness sect."

This is from bustle.com and there are other sources, this information should be what comes up immediately instead of the strange way it is put up without giving the actual information. 209.209.97.53 (talk) 13:16, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:22, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Foxcraze.

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'Good article' status?

How do people here feel about taking this article to 'Good article' status? I think it's good enough for nomination. LK (talk) 06:13, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I doubt it will get that far, but I'm for it. Great Mercian (talk) 15:00, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

I’m willing to help get it there. Trillfendi (talk) 15:30, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Infobox picture

Hi, I just saw that the new infobox picture looks kind of awkward. I was wondering if it can be switched back to the old one or another one? 2001:569:7F96:EE00:5144:5E49:1C78:328C (talk) 18:49, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

 Done

Well, now it looks even more awkward, I'm suggesting switching back to the Parade tour photo we had Great Mercian (talk) 10:21, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

I think this one is not awkward. There aren't that many picture of the artist. See the category on Commons. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Prince_(musician) --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 16:30, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Ok, so why don't we use this one instead? Great Mercian (talk) 20:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Ok. I thought about that pic too. I like it. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 01:19, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Should we use a photo at his peak, or should we use a recent one from years before he died? 2001:569:7F96:EE00:543C:B57E:5774:5398 (talk) 03:34, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Intro reads like a fan piece

The intro to the main article is OTT. It reads like it was written by a fan - for fans. Needs toning down. 92.184.110.250 (talk) 22:04, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Re: Genre removal

@Binksternet:, I reverted your unexplained removal of progressive soul (which is verified by the Washington Post reference). Please use the edit summary to explain your changes, or the talk page to discuss them. Thank you. Piotr Jr. (talk) 18:17, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Well, nevermind. I guess further pruning is needed of the genres... (Template:Infobox_musical_artist#genre) Piotr Jr. (talk) 18:23, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Prince's age.

Really ya'll? Prince died at 57? Born 1975. Died 2016. And ya'll got 57? Hope none of you are editing math and physics pages. 24.116.91.25 (talk) 05:17, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

I don't know how you concluded that he was born in 1975. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 21:43, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Jehovah's Witness + relationship to the LGBT community

There's so many articles talking about his complicated relationship to the queer community, particularly as it pertains to his pretty open homophobia after his conversion to being a Jehovah's Witness. Is there a reason this was left out of the article? It seems people may come away from this article feeling that since he was an androgynous icon, he must have been neutral or positive to the community, but it's quite a lot more complicated than that. Seems a little misleading to not have at least a sentence or two. However, I'm aware that this page has been strongly curated, so I don't want to just go changing around things if there's a reason it's left out. H-influenzae (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

According to the archives only one person attempted to add a similar section, but they did nothing. This is a volutary project, if something is missing it is because 9/10 times is just because it is missing, not because it is contested. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 18:16, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll flag it in my brain and probably come back. H-influenzae (talk) 19:13, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2022

Shouldn't it say "(deceased)" after his 1 child? 47.180.57.12 (talk) 16:35, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

No, Wikipedia biographies don't track the death status of children in the infobox. --Mvqr (talk) 15:15, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Love Symbol #2

The article provided better info about the symbol in the alt text for the symbol that in the article itself. It may be known to fans as "Love Symbol", but Prince also copyrighted it as "Love Symbol #2". I think the end of the second paragraph could be improved. AlanPerry (talk) 20:00, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Known for?!?

"...known for his flamboyant, androgynous persona and wide vocal range, which included a far-reaching falsetto and high-pitched screams." This is a strange way to describe Prince. He is "known" as an uncanny hit-making song-writer and bandleader, as a prodigious multi-instrumentalist, innovative composer and arranger, and for being one of the best guitarists of all time. Wide vocal range is maybe the 17th thing that people tend to "know" about him, or celebrate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.62.70.246 (talk) 05:45, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Then it shouldn't be hard to find a source to reference this information to... 𝒮𝒾𝓇 𝒯𝑒𝒻𝓁𝑜𝓃 (talk | contribs) 13:47, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

does not add up

Contradictions --> Children: 1 and "fathered no children" 89.78.169.249 (talk) 00:12, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2022

A simple comma misplacement on the first line:

Original: was an American singer-songwriter, musician, actor ,film director and record producer. Change to: was an American singer-songwriter, musician, actor, film director and record producer. Jiangyuang1995 (talk) 06:39, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

 Done Cannolis (talk) 06:54, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 December 2022

The infobox lists only vocals and guitar as instruments, but Prince was known to have also played piano, bass, drums, various keyboards, and various percussion instruments both on studio recordings and live in concert. The instrument list should be updated to include piano, bass, drums (and maybe keyboards and percussion as distinct entries?). Icoll52 (talk) 05:11, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Prince played all 27 instruments just on his first album. We only list the main instruments he's known for in the infobox. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 05:21, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

To be fair, of those 27 instruments, most were various different synths and percussion. Finger snaps and hand claps were also listed as "instruments". But to cite an example, Taylor Swift's infobox includes vocals, guitar, banjo, piano and ukulele. I wouldn't say she is known for any of those instruments but vocals. He did a whole tour of just him on piano, with nothing else. I think that warrants at least including piano. He played bass in concerts for his whole life. Surely they warrant a mention. Icoll52 (talk) 04:05, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 January 2023

ADD INFORMATION UNDER HIS DEATH. ADD BEFORE THE SENTENCE AND PARAGRAPHY ABOUT HIS ASHES.

Prince had three memorial events. One small gathering was held immediately after he was cremated on April 24, 2016 at Paisley Park. His sister Tyka Nelson, Sheila E, and a small group of Paisley staff attended.

https://www.tmz.com/2016/04/23/prince-memorial-paisley-park-flowers/

An unofficial celebration of life was held, May 11, 2016 hosted by his ex-wives Manuela Testolini and Mayte Garcia. A very small group of his closest friends included celebrity attendees included Gwen Stefani, Spike Lee, Eric Benet, Dita Von Teese, Larry King, Janelle Monae, Mavis Staples, Tony Kanal, Nile Rodgers, Herbie Hancock, Tavis Smiley and the Revolution. Close friends friends Sujata Murthy, Ken Erhlich (Longtime Grammy producer), Tracy Jordan and Prince's half-sibling Omarr Baker also attended. https://www.eonline.com/news/764194/prince-s-ex-wives-manuela-testolini-and-mayte-garcia-hold-star-studded-private-memorial-for-late-legend

The final official memorial service/celebration of life was hosted by Tyka Nelson. Held in August 12, 2016, celebrities flew to Minneapolis including Anthony Anderson, Anthony Hamilton, Rosario Dawson, Andre Cymone, Nandy and Mandy, Mayte Garcia, and Maya Rudolph. Judith Hill and Shelby J performed. There were only four speakers chosen: Pastor Billy G. Russell, Greater Friendship Missionary Baptist Church in Minneapolis; Sujata Murthy, his friend and confidant for more than 20 years; and Prince's closest friends from childhood, bandmate Andre Cymone and his sister Sylvia Amos, who was responsible for all the stage clothes for Prince, Vanity 6, Revolution and others. https://www.tmz.com/2016/08/16/prince-memorial-gift-bag/ MrBravestrong (talk) 06:26, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The sources you provided don't support all of the details you seem to have asked me to include. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 17:08, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

this can be the source for the 1st memorial information.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/sheila-e-prince-private-memorial-887292/

2nd memorial source:

https://www.eonline.com/news/764194/prince-s-ex-wives-manuela-testolini-and-mayte-garcia-hold-star-studded-private-memorial-for-late-legend

3rd memorial source:

the uploaded program shows the speakers.

Celebrities listed:

Andre Cymone has a wiki page and is documented as his childhood friend.

Sylvia Amos - https://www.fox9.com/news/childhood-friend-sylvia-amos-prince-was-so-full-of-life-just-so-full-of-life

sujata murthy: https://autos.yahoo.com/purple-prose-entertainment-industry-insiders-211139527.html

https://www.seema.com/music-to-her-ears/ MrBravestrong (talk) 06:12, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Prince program from memorial

official program from service MrBravestrong (talk) 06:19, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2023

Change “parent” column to “parents” Add Mattie Della Shaw (mother) 2A00:23C7:C081:301:98C0:953C:20B4:2500 (talk) 21:04, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

 Done Lightoil (talk) 02:15, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Wrong Name in "Early Life" section (stepbrother instead of stepfather)

In the fourth paragraph of the "Early Life" section, the second line reads as follows: "His mother remarried to Hayward Baker, with whom she had a son named Omarr; Prince had a fraught relationship with Omarr" ...

Instead, this should read as follows: "Prince had a fraught relationship with Baker" ...

Both of the references cited as sources for this sentence (#29 and #32) refer to the difficult relationship that led to Prince moving between homes in his youth being with his stepfather, not his baby stepbrother.

The following is a bit more of a nuanced suggestion and not about fixing a specific error, so much as it's about clarity and precision, in general, but since I can't edit this page, I'll describe what I'm referring to here and whoever is editing the page can decide if it actually matters enough to bother addressing.

The end of the same paragraph in the "Early Years" section reads: "After a brief period of living with his father, who bought him his first guitar, Prince moved into the basement of his neighbors, the Anderson family, after his father threw him out. He befriended the Andersons' son, Andre, who later collaborated with Prince and became known as André Cymone."

While there is nothing inaccurate in that sentence in the most literal sense, the timeline comes across as sort of muddled by the unusual syntax that mentions Prince's father throwing him out after mentioning Prince moving in with the Andersons. Although, common sense would indicate that the latter event preceded the former, it would read more naturally to mention these events in the same order they occurred. Similarly, Prince moving in with the Andersons is mentioned before it is mentioned that Prince befriended André. Prince and André, who were born less than a month apart, became friends when they were both in 7th grade (https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/prince-childhood-friend-bassist-andre-cymone-remembrance-7348518/). Based on their birthdays, 7th grade would cover the latter part of 1970 and earlier part of 1971 for both of them. Prince got to know André's parents because of his close friendship with their son over the next two-to-three years, so when Prince was kicked out by his father and needed a place to live (which André says occurred in 1973 or 1974), Andre's parents had known their son's close friend for about three years by then and agreed to take him in.

Also, while the "brief period of time" Prince lived with his father isn't specified further and I suppose "brief" can mean different things to different people, it seems that Prince either stayed with his father longer than most people would think of as a "brief period of time" or else he must have moved back in with his mother and stepfather or stayed elsewhere at some point or points in the early 1970s. André's recollections and the well-organized-and-researched timeline of where Prince lived during his childhood and teen years from this link (https://www.thecurrent.org/feature/2016/09/30/princes-childhood-homes-mndot-research-helps-create-a-timeline) both suggest that there was a gap of at least a year and more likely two-to-three years between Prince clashing with Baker and then going to live with his dad and Prince getting kicked out by his dad (after Prince's dad caught Prince with a girlfriend whom Prince had brought back to their home) and then moving in with André's family. ModernTimez (talk) 22:13, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Missing "also known as "names

Please add

Jamie Starr Alexander Nevermind Joey Coco Peter Bravestrong Tora Tora Christopher Gemini Laytonian2 (talk) 00:04, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Do you have reliable sources verifying those? Cullen328 (talk) 00:08, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Tours

Why is there not a link to any of the tours. Sure Controversy and Diamonds And Pearls and others have them, but why not the rest? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:481:8600:C540:983E:D5BF:D90C:8E48 (talk) 00:11, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2023

Roger E Nelson (Ñame) Prince 2600:100C:B008:19DC:B57E:3BAF:55DD:641D (talk) 03:09, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 03:14, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 October 2023 (2)

The name "Amiir" for Prince’s son was never confirmed by Prince anywhere. It was only identified by his ex-wife AFTER an article came put where Questlove of The Roots mentioned having a conversation with Prince about the meaning of his name, Ahmir, meaning Prince. No one else in the Prince sphere has supported this assertion by the ex-wife. 2600:8805:D285:9300:3068:8EB:E155:BCEE (talk) 17:47, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

 Partly done: I've edited the information to reflect most of it comes from his ex-wife with attempts to verify the information independently functionally failed. —Sirdog (talk) 23:02, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Diamonds And Pearls Super Deluxe

This is the most recent Prince related release, should be mentioned in the "2020-present" section. 195.99.227.0 (talk) 09:35, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Epilepsy?

Did Prince actually have Epilepsy? TheGreatestLuvofAll ( chat with me ) 01:12, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

He said he did. Why? --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 02:20, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I have never heard about it. TheGreatestLuvofAll ( chat with me ) 02:22, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Neither had I until I read the Wikipedia article. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 02:40, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Same. TheGreatestLuvofAll ( chat with me ) 03:28, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Sinéad O'Connor described Prince’s terrified staff, attempted assault and tin-foil covered windows

I removed the paragraph about "...Sinéad O'Connor described Prince’s terrified staff, attempted assault and tin-foil covered windows...".[3] I checked the first source and it didn't say anything about Prince's terrified staff, attempted assault or tin-foil covered windows. I checked the second source and it's live interview with Sinéad O'Connor with no fact-checking. Without high-quality secondary sources confirming her allegations, I don't feel this belongs in this article. It seem more appropriate to O'Connor's article. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 09:56, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

You can do that. Great Mercian (talk) 18:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Error on page

The news film of the 1970 Minneapolis teachers' strike was filmed when Prince was 11. "11 or 12" is wrong. Laytonian2 (talk) 02:24, 22 January 2024 (UTC)