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The result was no consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:30, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
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- Teya Dora (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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Self-promotion does not satisfy WP:GNG Fumikas Sagisavas (talk) 00:04, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Serbia, and Yugoslavia. Fumikas Sagisavas (talk) 00:04, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
Keep - Why is this biography about the Serbian artist being set up for deletion? There are many more sources about this individual that can be added, if wished upon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aleksandarstankov (talk • contribs) 00:08, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- @Aleksandarstankov: Please read the nomination statement that explains the reason for this deletion discussion. You speak of "many more sources". Could you please link to said sources, so that they can be evaluated? JML1148 (talk | contribs) 07:23, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- https://wannabemagazine.com/teya-dora-o-muzici-skolovanju-na-berklee-college-of-music-i-inspiracijama/
- https://www.journal.rs/kultura/muzika/teya-dora-juzni-vetar/
- https://noizz.rs/intervju/teya-dora-teodora-pavlovska-intervju-bassivity/jt0kktl
- https://antistresvodic.rs/teodora-pavlovska-rb-sa-srpskim-motivima/
- https://nova.rs/zabava/showbiz/teya-dora-u-juznom-vetru-objavila-novu-pesmu-oluja/
- https://citymagazine.danas.rs/popkultura/muzika/samo-tri-domaca-izvodjaca-su-presli-broj-od-milion-slusanja-na-spotifaju/
- https://sound-report.com/vijesti/teya-dora-novo-ime-na-regionalnoj-sceni-predstavlja-prvi-singl-za-bassivity/
- https://genius.com/artists/Teya-dora (A overview on all her work, including the songs she has written for other artists).
- https://www.billboard.com/charts/croatia-songs-hotw/2023-04-22/ (Source listing her song's current rank on the Billboard Croatia. Her current rank being 6th.) Aleksandarstankov (talk) 12:16, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:43, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - The subject of this draft does not satisfy any of the musical notability criteria, at least not as the article is written, and the article should speak for itself. It may be too soon in her career. There is also a draft, Draft:Teya Dora, which appears to be identical to this article. The draft should be left alone and can be improved, and can be submitted for AFC review when she satisfies one of the musical notability criteria. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:21, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
- The artist has currently over 1,7 million monthly listeners on Spotify. Definitely not "too soon" in her career. The artist does not fulfill all of the musical criteria, but saying she satisfy none is wrong.
- For example,
- All the sources listed has been published by independent Serbian or other Balkan media.
- The last source I listed showed this artist having her single at 6th place at the Billboard's Croatia Songs chart.
- As she is also a songwriter and spent much of her career being so, she has gotten credits for writing songs for other Balkan artists, and even songs for the Serbian national competition for Eurovison. Aleksandarstankov (talk) 18:06, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - The first version of this article was moved to the draft space by User:Onel5969, and was later rejected by another reviewer User:Robert McClenon with similar reasons. --Fumikas Sagisavas (talk) 15:30, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - I did not reject the draft. I declined it. There is a difference. It can be resubmitted when expanded. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:50, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Comment - An article should speak for itself. If she meets any of the musical notability criteria, the article should say so, rather than just telling the editors in the AFD that one of the sources provides that information. The reader of an article should not be required to read the sources. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:50, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for tips on improvements. This is the first page I created, so I'm still learning. I have added more text and source on the artist's achievements on national chart. Aleksandarstankov (talk) 01:13, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - as said by Robert McClenon, might be a case of WP:TOOSOON, but currently does not pass WP:GNG.Onel5969 TT me 20:36, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to review recently added sources.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:55, 26 June 2023 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as all opinions offered occurred before additional sources were added to the article. There was a request for more evidence of notability and now that this has been provided, they should be evaluated to see whether or not they are sufficient for establish GNG. I should also mention that over the past few days, the draft version of this article has been merged into this main space version.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:56, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
- I suggest this page is kept, now that the page is in align with WP:NMUSIC after the new citations got added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aleksandarstankov (talk • contribs) 17:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep - Muzika.hr appears to confirm a top 10. chart spot in Croatia. Journal SR has ok coverage as well. signed, Rosguill talk 03:00, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep seems ok and needs a content update tag to migrate content from the other language. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 06:55, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.