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I can't find sources for this text?

I tried my best to find sources for this but I don't find much. Can someone give me sources about the things that have no sources? SVcode(Talk) 00:26, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

That was, more or less, pure garbage. What of it was comprehensible at all seemed to be a combination of assertions of some kind of magical properties and a very disjointed "history". If no sources beyond blogs and the like can be found to verify it (I'll check when I have time), it may need to go to AfD. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 22:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

And as it turns out, a bunch of it was a copyvio from said blogs as well. So, I've revision deleted all of the stuff that contained the copyright violations. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 22:22, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me this violated copy-right. SVcode(Talk) 00:26, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Approval status update for https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CrystabelG/sandbox

Hi,

Please, I want to ask if this page I created has been reviewed for approval. I will like to know the status of the page.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CrystabelG/sandbox

Thanks and looking forward to hearing from you. Regards, Segunoloye (talk) 07:36, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

@Segunoloye: You have not submitted the draft so nobody will be reviewing it. I have just fixed that here. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 08:12, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks to you Aseleste. Regards with thanks, Segunoloye (talk) 08:21, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Editorial assistance request

Hi. Could anyone (experienced wikieditor) help me establish a sitting politician's wiki page? I'm a fast learner. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Jackson Friedman (talk) 05:44, 27 March 2021 (UTC)Jackson Friedman

Jackson, start here: Help:Your first article. You should use an existing "sitting politician" article as a template. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 05:49, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, yep i figured that out in the last few minutes: use an existing pol's article as a template. Thanks! Jackson Friedman (talk) 10:05, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Determining whether a source is MEDRS

I made an edit which was rolled back on the basis of (the editor said) WP:MEDRS. I provided background on the talk page, here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Finasteride#Suicidality_and_psychological_adverse_events

As I explained there, it is not clear why the source is not acceptable under WP:MEDRS. Is there a process for specific determinations of what qualifies as MEDRS? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariedegournay (talk • contribs) 21:09, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Mariedegournay, hello friend. Your source appears to be a single study ("original investigation"). WP:MEDRS requires a secondary source, such as a review article, systematic review, meta-analysis, guideline, or practice guideline. The way I like to search for MEDRS compliant sources is I go to PubMed, I do my search, and then I turn the following 4 filters on: review, systematic review, meta-analysis, MEDLINE. MEDRS is one of the more complicated areas of the encyclopedia, and it took me months to get a good feel for it. I would be inclined to trust Alexbrn's judgment in this area, as he has a lot of experience editing medical articles. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:25, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Novem Linguae Thanks for the quick and clear reply. Mariedegournay (talk) 21:31, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Pinging noticeboard about RfC after discussion has started

Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi all, I recently opened my first RfC after a prolonged article talk page (then my user talk page) discussion with an editor after I reverted their blanking of Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence's "Controversies" section. Several editors have replied in support of my decision but have said little else. A similar number of editors have said the section needs significant work and have challenged that the article should count as WP:FRINGE.

Would I be considered WP:FORUMSHOPping if I were to link to the RfC at WP:FTN? I only tagged the talk page of a related article and the general science RfC category when I posted it several days ago. Thank you! —Wingedserif (talk) 17:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Wingedserif If you follow the spirit of WP:APPNOTE it should be ok. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:31, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Bare URLs reFill

Bare URLs reFill has stopped working for me, others?. Is there another tool? I have used in the past, based on reFill:

• http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/view/Reflinks

And

• http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/webreflinks.py
• But, they are not working also. Anyone know of a working automatically or semi-automatically adder of information to references using data present in the web page?,

Thank you, Telecine Guy (talk) 16:55, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

@Telecineguy: For me right now, the replacement for reFill is to use the automatic cite function of the VisualEditor. However, it is not as convenient as reFill since you need to copy-and-paste each URL yourself. At least better than nothing though. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 09:01, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Changing content on a page about a public person

Hey, my girlfriend is a recording artist and she has tried several times to edit false information and misquotations on her page. Even after she edits the content, it soon reverts back to what's currently posted. The most glaring issue on her page is a sourceless quotation that she never stated anywhere. Why does her page keep revering back, and what will it take to make her edits permanent?

Thanks in advance for the help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.139.193.234 (talk • contribs)

Hello! Many people find it difficult to edit WP-stuff about themselves per WP:Conflict of interest, basically they want to do what they want to do instead of editing according to WP:Biographies of living persons, WP:PROMO etc. See also WP:OWN on "permanent". This doesn't mean that you/she can't have some influence. You can make suggestions on the article's talkpage (always the place to start). If you mention what article (hard to have an opinion otherwise), a few changes you'd like to see and WP:RS that backs them up someone here may be willing to take a look, we can be quite energetic about WP:Biographies of living persons. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:44, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

• Regarding the unsourced quote, instead of removing it (and violating the conflict of interest rules), consider placing the "{{cn}}" template immediately after it. That doesn't change the content but does warn readers that the "quote" may not be genuine. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 15:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Obvious change is reverted without comments

I had made an obvious short change in that article. My fix was reverted with no comments at the article's talk page. So what to do next? 5.18.238.114 (talk) 16:50, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

You provided no source to support the change. The text around the edit and the images strongly suggest your change is inaccurate. You can open a discussion on the talk page if you feel the text is incorrect as written, the editor reverting is under no obligation to do so. If you do so, please provide a source as more than just one word would need to be changed to support the edit. Slywriter (talk) 17:06, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

As I said I had already opened the discussion at the talk page with the direct link to confirming photo. It seems it is ignored. BTW, this photo of Wat Phra Kaew is taken from the page describing types of the "chofa"s and it is used to illustrate "Garuda's type". So there are only two options here: it is Garuda type chofa or the discussed text is not a description of chofa but other decorative element - "hang hong". Anyway, what to do next? 5.18.238.114 (talk) 17:38, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

You can just wait for other editors to respond on the talk page. Hopefully you get two others to weigh in. Then you see if theres a majority to make the change or not. This is part of the WP:BRD process. Hope this helps.–Novem Linguae (talk) 18:48, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Messed that up in two ways, missed the talk page and then mistook IPs Diff for current. Anyway, looks like Talk Page has activity and IPs one word correction will get in the article eventually, as the text supports Garuda. Sorry IP. Slywriter (talk) 19:52, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Adequate Reference

I taught a seminar at a university in 1996 and want to make mention of it in an article. What do I need to provide as a reference or proof?

2603:6000:C600:A607:D888:650A:CC69:924E (talk) 20:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

You really shouldn't edit about yourself, as it is difficult to remain neutral in that instance. Better to bring it up on the talk page. That said, have a look at what we are looking for in terms of a source, primarily reliability and independence. In this case, we would be looking for sources which are reliable and not affiliated with you or the university and having any interest in promoting those to say that you teaching the seminar was somehow significant. If that type of source material doesn't exist, it doesn't belong in any articles. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 20:36, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Misunderstood article deletion

Dear Sir, I wrote yesterday an article about a Lebanese public figure, noting that there are already posts about public figure biographies on Wikipedia, but I don’t understand why The article was deleted, I even included the personal website of that person, may someone assist me? I don’t see that i violated any of Wikipedia policies. Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AAK89 (talk • contribs)

AAK89, you'll need to tell us what article you are talking about. You have not written any articles which were deleted under the AAK89 account (as an admin, I can see if you've made any edits which were since deleted, and you have not). Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 22:28, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

This is about an article on arwiki; I'm attempting to help the user on my talk page. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 13:40, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

fixing missing source details

I noticed that a full citation for one of the sources on this page is missing:
LGBT culture in New York City (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

It is the "Duberman" source (citations 9, 10, 12, etc.): it is cited many times but there is no full source detail in the references. It seems that Duberman is a popular author of several relevant books (which I myself have not read). As a new editor, I'm wondering what would be the best approach for verifying the missing source and updating the references on this page?
Naiditouq (talk) 04:13, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Naiditouq You are quite correct, that is not how it should be. Sometimes citationstyles on WP become mixed in an unhelpful way. To compare, at Florine Stettheimer you can see that citationstyle done correctly.

I've asked for input at Talk:LGBT culture in New York City and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies, we'll see what happens. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:31, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Pinging Castncoot. They appear to have added the Duberman reference in 2016, and are still an active editor. [1] Maybe they can help add a full reference. –Novem Linguae (talk) 18:35, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Now that's good thinking. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:56, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

American Descendants of Slavery

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Descendants_of_Slavery

We are having repetitive issues where editors are changing the wikipedia for American Descendants of Slavery to omit information and present the group inaccurately. Editor Ritchie333 had to correct this prior just two months ago.

On the about just today three hours ago an editor omitted information about one founders Antonio Moore contributing on a progressive site and left information about the other to misrepresent information. They also restructured the page as not about but a biased slander. We have attempted using the talk page and it is ignored. Please have the page reverted to what it was prior to the revisions that make biased omissions to misrepresent the group. The page should be reverted and locked. They also added slanted information about singular statements that shouldn't be on a group page. They changed the whole page and now it isn't a description of the group.

The page is now more of a blog with the goal of making ADOS appear right wing. It has left the line about Southern Poverty and omitted the clearly sourced mention of Moore writing at Inequality.org Here is the source. Its their actual site. https://inequality.org/authors/antonio-moore/. You can omit both but not one and not the other.

Also, there are inaccuracies of added information on the page now. The source doesn't say what the editor asserted. It said "They say" this is basically the editor effectively piecing together material to make their own argument that is not in the source. This is the quote Washington Post quote "They say calling Harris “African American,”..." and the writer is ambiguous to the source of that "they" it is inaccurate.

The editor added this but there is no support. "In one video, Moore criticized Kamala Harris and asserted that she was not "African American" (Harris's father is Jamaican American); the claim was amplified by right-wing figures, including Donald Trump Jr..[" There is no source to support this discussion. And now what the editor did is took one wash post article and made sections off this one article. The prevalence section added is from this same article. As is the misquoted citation.

In addition, now the page both tries to frame the group as small and right-wing which is not for a description page about page. It took citation 5 that the recent editor added and embedded it as the page in all senses. The prior version of the page is a basic description that leaves all assessments to the reception section properly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnways21145 (talk • contribs) 20:51, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

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Below is the prior page text please revert:

Extended content

American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) is a term referring to (and a lineage-focused political movement advocating for) descendants of the enslaved Africans in the United States from its colonial period onward. Both concepts grew out of the hashtag #ADOS created by Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore.[1] ADOS have made reparations for the system of slavery in the United States a key tenet of their platform.[2] They want colleges, employers and the federal government to prioritize African Americans who descended from American slaves, and they argue that affirmative action policies originally designed to help the descendants of slavery in America have largely been used to benefit other groups.[2] The American descendants of slavery, they say, should have their own racial category on census forms and college applications, and not be lumped in with others with similar skin color but different historical experiences.[2] One of its founders, Carnell, was a board member of "Progressives for Immigration Reform",[3] described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as an anti-immigration group.[4] The other founder Antonio Moore wrote on liberal think tank Institute for Policy Studies site Inequality.org on economics and race for several years.[5] Overview Members of American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) are descendants of enslaved Africans, their captors (European slavers), and the original inhabitants of the North American continent during the time of chattel slavery and the Atlantic slave trade. They are descendants of at least one ancestor who was forced into slavery within the established colonies in North America during the time of chattel slavery. The term "descendants of slavery" was originally coined by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. during the Civil Rights era in the United States of America. The addition of 'American' within the term is used to establish specificity (as there are other countries that also used the forced labor of enslaved people to develop their nation). "American Descendants of Slavery" refers specifically to the descendants of the enslaved people held in captivity in North America during the initial establishment of the United States (from the colonial era onward). ADOS cannot trace their ancestral roots to any specific country or tribe on the continent of Africa.[6] Their African ancestors were sold into human trafficking (slavery) by African traders on the continent who made a profit from selling their enemies and other unfortunate people to European traffickers (slavers).[7] Political movement The movement intends to correct the view of outsiders by using statistical and historical data and evidence to speak to the reality of modern life for ADOS (formally referred to[by whom?] as African Americans), whose lives have been impacted heavily by social and economic struggles created by chattel slavery, segregation and Jim Crow, the practice of Red Lining, convict leasing, mass incarceration, and discrimination still found in various forms within the structure of the American political and economic system today. The group continues the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. with the continued fight for social and economic justice as it demands reparative justice and the opportunities they have historically been denied within America. As ADOS explains on its policy page, the group key objective is for reparations for the descendants of slaves who were held in captivity in the United States as well as a larger Black agenda that demands a "New Deal for Black America."[8] This agenda includes but not limited to lineage-specific set-asides for American descendants of chattel slavery, restoration of the protections of the Voting Rights Act, a minimum of 15 percent of Small Business Association (SBA) loans be distributed ADOS businesses, a multi-billion dollar infrastructure plan targeted to ADOS communities along with financial compensation for benign neglect of those communities by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and federal government, comprehensive prison reform and rehabilitation, a refocused oversight and enforcement for ADOS economic inclusion from American banks, and ADOS college debt forgiveness and health care coverage.[8] Supporters of ADOS push the issue on social media with the hashtag #ADOS. As a movement #ADOS draws value from the use of social media, and "sets out to shift the dialogue around the identity of what it is to be African American in an effort to move the discussion from melanin"[9] to the lineage of an American population whose ancestors built the wealth of the United States. Founders The American Descendants of Slavery movement was founded by Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore.[1] Carnell runs a weekly political show called "BreakingBrown"[10] and has been an aide for two Democratic politicians, Senator Barbara Boxer and Congressman Robert Marion Berry.[11] Moore has been a writer for the progressive think tank the Institute for Policy Studies and for the Huffington Post. He was also the producer of the investigative documentary 'Freeway Crack in The System' which was nominated for an Emmy for Outstanding Investigative Journalism: Long Form.[12][13][14] Reception Hubert Adjei-Kontoh of The Outline opined that "#ADOS has managed to synthesize the black left-wing critique of America's origins with a right-wing belief in the inherent superiority of those who were born in America."[15] Kevin Cokley from the University of Texas at Austin is critical of the organisation's desire to separate the descendants of slaves from African immigrants and encouraged the two groups to be united under an African American identity.[16] Malcolm Nance characterised supporters as trolls, calling them "a mix of [African American] proTrump racists [and] nuts.”[3] Talib Kweli is critical of the group because he believes they are aligned with the Republican party against immigration[3] and Shireen Mitchell stated the group was making it easier for black voters to justify voting for Donald Trump.[2] Farah Stockman questioned in November 2019 whether the movement was large enough to warrant discussion on a national level but decided to print an article about the group in The New York Times.[17] Alvin Bernard Tillery, Jr., an associate professor at Northwestern University, states that the issues ADOS raised on who should receive reparations will have to be reflected upon by the black community.[3] William A. Darity Jr. believes the ADOS' premise is based on a distinctive ethnic identity that exists among the descendants of American slaves.[3] He defended ADOS against nativism claims[18] and believes they are supporting people who have not benefitted in the current American system.[2] Cornel West stated at an ADOS conference in Louisville, Kentucky that the ADOS movement was resuming the work started by Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X.[17]

Johnways21145 (talk) 19:58, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Johnways21145, hello friend. Not to be rude, but your post is a little long. You may have better luck in the future if you limit your posts to 1-2 paragraphs. Anyway, I took a look at the article you linked. It is semi protected, and the edit history is full of edits by very experienced editors, so I suspect the article is in good shape. I would recommend that you raise any changes you'd like to request on the article's talk page, that way you can discuss directly with the experienced editors I mentioned. All content that is added to articles must follow our policies and guidelines, and experienced editors will help you make sure that your changes follow the policies and guidelines. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:02, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

question about sneed and chuck

In a The Simpsons episode (E-I-E-I-(Annoyed_Grunt)), there is a store that is called "Sneed's Feed and Seed (Formerly Chuck's)". Does this mean the store was called Chuck's Feed and Seed? I don't get it. 41.204.44.147 (talk) 05:35, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

You'll probably have more success if you go to a Simpson's Wiki. I'm sure there are many out there, maybe at Fandom. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:46, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Archivist writing Wikipedia pages

I am interested in writing Wikipedia pages that do not exist for authors (noteworthiness tbd) with highly credible published works but I also volunteer for a group that creates audiobooks for works that are in the public domain.

Is this a conflict of interest for me to do both if I am not a writer by profession or hobby but consider myself more of an archivist looking to fill a void?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tchula65 (talk • contribs)

Tchula65. Hello friend. This doesn't sound like a conflict of interest to me. A conflict of interest, in my opinion, is a strong financial or personal connection to a specific person or company. The only conflict of interest here might be writing about your volunteer group that creates audiobooks. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:02, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

'most everybody here has tried our hand at creating articles about topics we think are notable enough to merit an article. Unless the author is paying you, there's no COI. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:10, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Citing email correspondence?

I'm wondering if it's possible to cite email correspondence between a wikipedia editor and a reputable source, for example, asking a museum archivist about the existence of pieces in their collection when an online catalog is incomplete. I am considering doing this while editing the page Fredric Hobbs--his obituary claims that his art pieces are held in the Museum of Modern Art's permanent collection, but their online catalog is incomplete. I'm not sure if this falls under WP:NOR or not, as if the conversation took place on an email list it seems that it would be fine? If such research doesn't count as "original research," how I would cite correspondence in a useful/verifiable way? - - mathmitch7 ^{(talk/contribs)} 13:48, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

The issue isn't ""original research", it's the requirement that cited sources must have been published so that readers can verify the statements they support. Maproom (talk) 14:46, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

@Mathmitch7: Unpublished emails are against Wikipedia:Verifiability. We once had a rarely used Template:Cite email but it was against policy from the beginning and was deleted in 2007 (on my nomination). PrimeHunter (talk) 15:00, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Got it. So if the exchange was publicly verifiable in some way, it'd be good, but emails aren't that. Great, thanks for the clarification! - - mathmitch7 ^{(talk/contribs)} 16:24, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Now if you could get them to mention this as part of their holdings, in a generally-available publication or newsletter, that would constitute a reliable published source. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:14, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Assistance with advertising in article

I am requesting assistance cleaning up apparent advertising in violation of the WP:PROMOTION policy in the Toll Brothers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) article. On March 29, 2021, user TBuser2021 made several edits to the page that appear to be advertising (examples include discussing the company in very positive terms, user referencing "we," and also removed a post about a controversy they had. I went ahead and added the advert template for now. I am looking for an experienced editor to help revert these changes and then post the "Template:Uw-advert1" on TBuser2021's page when finished, along with any other necessary changes. Thanks for any help. Wikipedialuva (talk) 21:55, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

It appears to be resolved. Thanks to Maproom for cleaning up the article. I went ahead and posted the "Uw-advert1" template on TBuser2021's talk page. Wikipedialuva (talk) 23:07, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

@Sundayclose

@Sundayclose has treated me poorly and made me reconsider past contributions, editorial and financial, to Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davemcor69 (talk • contribs)

@Davemcor69: You refer to your addition to Lolita being reverted. Sundayclose told you to get consensus. That typically means to start a new section at Talk:Lolita to seek support from other editors. Lolita#Popular music is not meant to have all mentions but a selection. Other mentions have been removed in the past, for example from a 2016 version. I looked up the lyrics to the Suzanne Vega song. It sounds more related to Lolita (term) than to the book. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:49, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: I refer to @Sundayclose telling me to click on "blue links" within their message, condescendingly, and to read a "Welcome!" message with guidelines sent to me in 2017 when my first contribution to Wikipedia was in 2001-2. I understand guidelines need to change over time and I've learned more from your message here than I did from @Sundayclose. Thanks for your time. Davemcor69 (talk) 21:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Bibliography Source

I'm working on a bibliography for a writer but I am, in effect, duplicating the chronological bibliography of another source. Is this considered plagiarism if I am using the information but publishing it in a format I adopted from a bibliography from an already-published wikipedia page? If not, how do I credit the source (webpage) for the information I"m using from their page to create my page? I'd still like to credit the source for their work. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tchula65 (talk • contribs)

Tchula65, interesting question. I don't know the answer to this one. If you don't get a good answer here, you can always try posting at WP:CQ. –Novem Linguae (talk) 22:39, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Please undo an arbitrary article name change that was made with no talk or consultation

The article in question is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality_(philosophy). The article formerly named Causality has been renamed arbitrarily, on the will of a single editor, with no consultation on the talk pages. I think the change is inappropriate; at least it would need talk page discussion, and indeed consensus.

I am not facile with such big moves as this and I don't know how to do efficiently what needs to be done. I have tried, but I don't know how to undo a redirect. I am asking for urgent help before any further tangles are generated.

I am not sure how much argument I should post here. Briefly, causality is a general ordinary language concept, not restricted to philosophy. If the change of title is to be made, it needs discussion on the talk page.

If I haven't got this request right, please put me right before this gets out of hand.Chjoaygame (talk) 17:21, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

@Chjoaygame: You can request to revert the undiscussed move on WP:RM/TR#Requests to revert undiscussed moves. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 18:10, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your help.Chjoaygame (talk) 18:13, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Request about submitting an article without being blocked

Hello, I would like to ask how can I submit an article without being blocked. Thanks--Domiciliato (talk) 13:48, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Help:Your first article....."An Article Wizard is available to help you create an article through the Articles for Creation process, where it will be reviewed and considered for publication. Please note that the backlog is long (currently, there are 1,013 pending submissions; it often takes months). "Moxy- 15:02, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply Moxy- . Can I show you a draft so that you tell me if it is worth it to submit it for review ?--Domiciliato (talk) 15:11, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Sure thing --Moxy- 15:15, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Awesome. Where shall I add the draft?--Domiciliato (talk) 15:17, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Create a new draft

Hi Moxy-On the draft space the article I want to submit has been moved and deleted several times. Is this a problem ? Would it be better to add the draft to my userspace sandbox?--Domiciliato (talk) 15:35, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes try

:Stick it in User:Domiciliato/Draft--Moxy- 15:36, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Done--Domiciliato (talk) 15:39, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

I am there.--Moxy- 15:44, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Moxy-, I have tried to fix some close paraphrasing according to Earwig's Copyvio Detector. What do you think? Many thanks--Domiciliato (talk) 16:45, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Great job ....Giovanni Morassutti.--Moxy- 22:22, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Follow-up on a draft - Louis Jacques Filion

Dear editor,

I created a draft for Louis Jacques Filion, for his already published Wikipedia in French (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Jacques_Filion). I translated the exact same content to English, which can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Louis_Jacques_Filion.

According to Wikipedia, when content is published in any language (for example – French), the process to re-publish it in another language (for example English) would be much faster. I am wondering how long will it take for my English version to be published, granted that the French version is already published?

I appreciate your help,

Rahma — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chourama (talk • contribs)

Chourama. Hello friend. You've done everything right. You used AFC, and you submitted the draft for review. Easy accepts and easy declines tend to get processed right away (within hours or days). Unfortunately this draft is complicated because of the 36 references, so it may take months. When it is reviewed, the reviewer will leave a message on your user talk page. I will also mention that the English Wikipedia's notability rules are stricter than that of other Wikis, so one has to be careful translating articles. On English Wikipedia, translated articles sometimes do not meet our notability rules. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 23:14, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Clarifying understanding of User Generated Content sources

Hi,

Just so I'm clear, I cannot use any reference information from Ancestry.com or FindaGrave.com, yes? Thank you. --Tchula65 (talk) 13:16, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Tchula65 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tchula65 (talk • contribs) 13:13, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Tchula65, correct, those have both been marked as unreliable at WP:RSPSOURCES. –Novem Linguae (talk) 14:00, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Preparing to submit draft article with multiple sub-pages for review

What is the best source in Wikipedia to learn how to submit a draft article with multiple sub-pages for review?--Tchula65 (talk) 13:23, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Tchula65

Tchula65, are you talking about your Draft:Sewell Peaslee Wright Bibliography: Short Stories 1923 - 1926 series of articles? You can just click "Submit the draft for review" on all the pages. They'll be reviewed individually. –Novem Linguae (talk) 14:03, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Music bands that were created and or misdated in 1996 and later....

• Suicide Boys
• Skeler
• White Zomnbie
• Stabbing Westward
• Smash Mouth
• 10 Years Gone
• Fetty Wap
• Dierks Bentley
• Linkin Parks Modern Songs
• POD's modern Songs
• Bemudumo 'Gabiga Inc'
• 10 Seconds to Mars

Alot of new bands in Modern times 'Many on this list were made some time during 2015'. In short there's been a 'screw up' in history. Accounting and legal practices mismanaged' 'and or' 'fabricated'. -I'm Michael Gabiga 'United States' Chicago, Illinois 5555 N. McVicker Ave. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:8b0b:dcd0:b5a0:fe29:c68:1766 (talk • contribs)

Hello friend. How can we help? Do you have a specific question/request? Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 01:18, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Willma Gendb (iamwillow) wikipedia or bio

Hello,

I hope this email finds you well.

I wrote an artice about myself (willma Gendb) and i can see it and it shows up on my read and main page . I think i did such a nice job in my writing piece and it really gives informative details about who i am . Please help me figure whats going on with it and why i cant view my bio online .

Thank you for your understanding and help in advance.

dearest regards, Willma Gendb — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamwillow (talk • contribs) 05:24, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Iamwillow. Hey there. Your article is currently at Draft:Willma Gendb. The next step is to visit that article, and in the box at the top of the page that starts with "Draft article not currently submitted for review", click the blue button that says "Submit the draft for review". This will put it in the queue for one of our reviewers to take a look at. When it is published or declined due to a problem, you will receive a message on your user talk page at User talk:Iamwillow. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:40, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Edit to Winona MS page = Notable People

Hello,

I have tried several times to add Calvin C. Hobbs to the Winona, MS = Notable People page/content. He was a original Tuskegee Airman and on 03/22/18 the state recognized him/his accomplishments with a House/Senate bill = HC78. I have been denied each time. How can I get this added to the page?

Thank you for your help, Michael C. Hobbs

--2601:1C2:600:3710:8161:C114:605D:E953 (talk) 18:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

I've looked at the edit history page for Winona, Mississippi and don't see where you made an edit or had it reverted. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 20:50, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

This is what I get:

Your action has triggered an edit filter An automated filter has identified a problem with this edit, so it has been disallowed. Please do not add yourself, your friends, or your relatives to lists of notable people. Do not add anyone else, unless your edit can be supported by multiple reliable sources. Social media sites are not reliable sources.

If you were not adding a name to a list, please report this error and another editor will provide assistance.

If you were adding a name to a list, please go the same page, but be sure to provide reliable sources backing up your claim. Unsourced requests, or requests sourced to social media, will be ignored or removed.

I do not understand what I am doing wrong. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipemch (talk • contribs) 15:28, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikipemch, thanks for the details. Does he have a Wikipedia article? Normally people should only be added to notable people lists if they have an article. Due to some TikTok vandalism, we have that edit filter in place. If he has a Wikipedia article, post your proposed edit here, and if it looks good, I can make the edit for you. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 15:35, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. No, he does not have a Wikipedia article. He was recognized by the Mississippi House and Senate with a bill - HC78 on 03/22/18. https://legiscan.com/MS/text/HC78/2018 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C2:600:3710:9187:D195:D1D1:9127 (talk) 15:47, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Submitted Article for Review but got this Warning: "Warning: This page should probably be located at Draft:Sewell Peaslee Wright (move)."

Do I move it now? If the answer is 'yes' will I be prompted to 'submit' article again? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tchula65 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Tchula65, can you provide a link to the draft and/or the message? Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 16:13, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

→here is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tchula65/Sewell_Peaslee_Wright. The message is in the yellow box at the bottom. Thank you.

Thanks for the info. You can go ahead and move it. Submitted drafts should usually be moved to draftspace (they should start with Draft:). If you don't move it, your AFC reviewer may do it for you. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 16:31, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Disruptive and frankly rude behaviour

User:Mutt Lunker (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This user as you can see responded to my very well meant comment containing legitimate concerns over wording in a rather hostile manner. I was just hoping to get your advice on whether this was breaching any rules and if so what could be done about it. Finchley59 (talk) 21:26, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

No, Mutt Lunker did not break any rules or do anything disruptive, they merely pointed out that you broke a rule (=don't change other people's talkpage comments). IMO, they were pretty patient with you, considering that you had not merely changed their talkpage comment, but changed it in a frankly "rather hostile" way.[2] Turning "Betty" into "her majesty The Queen" — in preference to merely "the Queen" — in a comment signed by Mutt Lunker changes the tone of his comment into that of a humble and abject royalist. That was quite inappropriate. Please learn from this incident: do not change other people's comments. Bishonen | tålk 22:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC).

Bad citation in AirTag (tracker) and edit filter

Hi, I can't edit AirTag (tracker) to repair a bad citation formatting. It seems to be displaying an edit filter message for a URL that doesn't even appear in the article. Can anybody help? - Bri.public (talk) 15:54, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Bri.public. Done. I was puzzled as to why this wasn't showing up in the edit filter log for that page. Then I tried to fix it myself and discovered it was the URL blacklist. It didn't like the domain youtu.be, which was used in two places, and which showed up as an external link once the broken comment was fixed, triggering the blacklist. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:45, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Users reverting valid changes to page

Hello, I am making valid edits to this page: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%C3%A9s_Oppenheimer There are two users reverting my edits EVERY SINGLE TIME - for no reason. They have now reported/blocked me FOR NO REASON! These users are: Edslov Pepi003 How can I report them? Please review my edits, they are absolutely valid, no reason to block me. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BettinareyC (talk • contribs)

BettinareyC. Hello. This is the English Wikipedia, so I don't think we can help. It says you are blocked on the Spanish Wikipedia. Here is the reason in the block log: 14:56, 25 April 2021 Edslov talk contribs blocked BettinareyC talk contribs with an expiration time of indefinite (account creation disabled, email disabled, cannot edit own talk page) (Cuenta con propósito particular: Ediciones arbitrarias; plagio y eliminación de contenido referenciado.) It roughly translates to "single purpose account: arbitrary additions, plagiarism and removal of sourced content". I suggest you research the Spanish Wikipedia's unblock procedure, then submit an unblock request. They have blocked your talk page access and email access, so keep that in mind. Good luck. –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:11, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

@Novem Linguae, she's doing the same thing on Andres Oppenheimer here on enwiki, too. —valereee (talk) 15:14, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Warned for edit-warring. —valereee (talk) 15:19, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Harassment, Bullying, Uncivil Commentary: Parsecboy

"Parsecboy" (hereafter "User") has engaged in a pattern of anti-social language and actions following a March 10, 2021 edit I made on USS Mississippi (BB-41) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).

Course of events: March 10: Original edit by self, adding information on 1919 aircraft launch from USS Mississippi including an annotated photograph containing the time frame, location, and situation: File:NH 43915.jpg (edit | [[Talk:File:NH 43915.jpg|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). March 10: Reversion by User, claiming there was no source. March 11: Reinstitution of original edit with explanation of the fact that the photo was annotated (presumably by the original owner/contributor, although that is uncertain). I told User "If you have an issue with the factuality of the photo caption, please describe the basis for your dispute." March 11: Rather than modifying my edit, responding to my comment, or requesting further information, User again reverted the edit without justification, adding the spurious and combative comment "The photo doesn't have a date or the name of the pilot in it, now does it? And how do we know, just from the photo, that it is in fact Mississippi?" March 12: Due to the non-responsive manner of the comment by User, I re-instituted my original edit. March 12: User posted on my personal page, {{La]User_talk:Brucelucier#On_using_photos_as_sources}} a demeaning and harassing post, snidely informing me that I am not "An actual naval historian." April 22: On seeing User's multiple edits to my page I warned him to refrain from posting anything more on my page. I was not able to post on his user page (it was restricted or blocked), so I had to post to another linked page. April 22: User responded 'I haven’t said anything to you in well over a month, what are you talking about? And if me pointing out you were wrong is “harassment” or “bullying”, I suggest you grow up.'

Comments: 1. User frequently locks his user page, making it impossible to respond directly. Instead, he links to another page. As a result, it is impossible to know how much of a continuing problem his bullying language and behavior is. Due to the confluence of Comments 1 and 2 (below), I suggest User be restricted from this tactic, as it obscures his history from other users. 2. User has engaged with other users in a similarly contentious manner: Talk:USS_Mississippi_(BB-41)#Verification_needed (edit | [[Talk:Talk:USS_Mississippi_(BB-41)#Verification_needed|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and User_talk:Parsecboy/Sandbox#Rape_during_the_liberation_of_France (edit | [[Talk:User_talk:Parsecboy/Sandbox#Rape_during_the_liberation_of_France|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). In the latter instance, he "informed" another user, Marcher77 that Marcher77 also was not a "real" historian and a liar: "Somehow I don't believe that." Again, due to his frequent habit of locking his user page, the extent of his bullying behavior is hard to determine, but I suspect it may be extensive.

It seems User has a proprietary attitude toward articles he has an interest in. He also lashes out at other users in violation of Wikipedia policy. I suggest he be warned against this tendency. Obviously, his comments undermine Wikipedia's goals and should be discouraged. Thank you for your time.--Brucelucier (talk) 05:16, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Brucelucier, the user in question is an administrator with over 100,000 edits. When a newer user is being told by a very experienced user that their edits are problematic, it may be smartest to just accept the feedback and move on. Can you reply with some diffs of this user's problematic behavior? Examples of what diffs look like: [3][4]. Diffs are very concise and a great way of presenting behavioral evidence. Can you also provide a diff or aticle title to this full protection you mentioned? Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 05:48, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Novem Linguae, is it usual procedure to tell people to "accept the feedback and move on" when a user is being abusive? Perhaps there is a better forum you can suggest, because I do not believe this user's methods are acceptable. Brucelucier (talk) 06:32, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Brucelucier, can you give diff links (as Novem Linguae has described above) to the abuse you allege? Without seeing what Parsecboy has done, in context, it's difficult to judge. Maproom (talk) 07:14, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

@Brucelucier Honestly I do not see any base for your accusations, it would indeed be good to provide us some diffs. The conversations between you and Parsecboy I have seen on the talk pages seem to be nothing extraordinary.

@Novem Linguae Also Admins can misbehave, would not be the first one in history here, no matter how much edits they have. Although in this case I do agree on your assessment. CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:22, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

First off, a couple of things for Bruce: my userpage is locked, that is not where messages go. No one has any reason to edit it apart from myself, and as I have encountered my fair share of vandals over the decade and a half I've been working here, I prefer to keep it locked to avoid nonsense being posted there. Also, it's generally considered bad form to bring up an individual at a board such as this and not notify them.

Second, here's the extent of my interaction with Bruce:

• He adds material without a source
• I revert it with the summary "Please don't add material without a source"
• he restores it with the summary "I expect an actual picture is enough of a source, right?"
• I reverted again, with the summary "The photo doesn't have a date or the name of the pilot in it, now does it? And how do we know, just from the photo, that it is in fact Mississippi? Please add an actual reliable source like a book, article, etc"
• I then posted an explanation about why it's unwise to use a photo as a source at his talk page here
• He ignored that, asked me to provide a source for the fact that the image is wrong, and reverted with no summary
• I reverted again, and warned him to stop edit-warring
• A couple of hours later, after finding a source that directly contradicted the photo, I posted it to his talk page. It's this edit, apparently, that constitutes bullying and harassment, as far as I can tell. Why Bruce finds it insulting that I described Norman Polmar, a noted naval historian, as such, I don't know. Presumably, he assumes I'm insinuating that he's not a historian. Whether he is or is not, surely Bruce can understand why I know literally nothing about him, nor would I have any reason to believe that he is a noted naval historian.
• More than a month later, Bruce posted at my talk page, accusing me of harassing him.
• My response, pointing out that I hadn't said anything to him since the initial discussion. Yes, telling him to "grow up" is a bit snide, but hey, if you show up at my talk page making ridiculous attacks on me, you might just get a snide response.

If providing a source that he asked for and then responding to his accusation on my own talk page constitute harassment and hounding, then hey, lock me up. But maybe one of us is just a wee bit overly defensive about being wrong about something. Parsecboy (talk) 10:36, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Fawcett Publication vs Fawcett Published Titles

I'm working on a bibliography that cites the magazines of a number of short stories. Among the are several 'Fawcett' publications (i.e., Triple-X Magazine (later renamed "Tiple-X", "Fawcett's Battle Stories", and "Battle Stories" (assumes just rebranding of the title from 'Fawcett's Battle Stories'). Though the Wikipedia link for "Fawcett Publications" does not list these publications, specifically, it seems practical to make a link from these titles to "Fawcett Publications" but I'm not sure this is within Wikipedia standards. Can anyone advise on how I should proceed? Thank you. - 09:19, April 21, 2021 user:Tchula65

If you have a reliable source that supports putting those publications on the Fawcett Publications page then you can add them there. Even without that change you can put a link in your new {?) article to Fawcett Publications and, if another editor objects, you can ask them for guidance. (Regarding what I'm guessing is a new article, please see Wikipedia:NOTCATALOG). Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 21:04, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

"Fawcett's Battle Stories" is not a title in and of itself. What it is is shorthand for "the Fawcett Publications title Battle Stories". See https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=328371 --Khajidha (talk) 13:52, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Abdullah bin Laden, son of Osama, is said to be in Maryland, USA, when he could only be 14 years old, with a younger brother in some terrorist related action. I question the accuracy of this post.

Abdullah could only have been about 14 at this time and based on the impression you get from Lawrence Wright's, the Looming Tower , I don't think this is true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:88:301:2290:B1CA:DD0B:E38D:BEB0 (talk) 21:31, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey there. What article is this in regards to? Usually this kind of feedback is posted at the article's talk page. You click on the article, then you click on the "Talk" tab and make a section there. That way people who specialize in the article can take a look. Hope that helps. –Novem Linguae (talk) 01:04, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

John Smith VC .

John Smith's VC medal was in the Brian Lane Collection of Indian Mutiny militaria, and was sold by Sotherby's on 1 Dec., 2017.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.111.130 (talk)

Wikipedia has over 200 articles on people named John Smith. Admittedly only a few of them could have served in the Indian Mutiny; but it would still help if you could give a link to the relevant article. Also, can you provide bibliographical details of the auction catalogue and lot number, or a web link to the lot page for the medal? Maproom (talk) 18:56, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

National Fascist Party

Hi, I fear that I need your help in solving this (senseless) dispute about this logo's size.

1. A few months ago, Beyond My Ken and I had a brief confrontation regarding the size of the National Fascist Party's logo and we agreed to use a 120px size. He proposed it first and I supported his choice, even if the previous version of the logo was quite larger (160px, as you can see from this previous version of December 2018);

2. A few weeks ago, he unilaterally decided to reduce the size, using 75px, without any consensus and, when I reverted his edits, he accused me of advertising a fascist party;

3. After an edit war, of which I regret, I was inconclusively reported by BMK to the Administrators' noticeboard, and we started a discussion on the apposite talk page. Other three users partecipated in the discussion, two of them supported 120px, one of them supported 100px;

4. Yesterday (and today too), he decided to switch the size to 100px, asserting that there's a consesus. I think there isn't a consesus, but I'd like to have your opinion about it.

Thank you. -- Nick.mon (talk) 09:20, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

The image display, like a thumbnail in the text body, is usually a default, viewable but not overwhelming other parts of the article. This ought to avoid disputes about what appears to look best to editors and provide a reader with information that can be clicked to enlarge if they wish. The last point is crucial. These disputes are not unknown, but it is recommended to be careful where one advances theories of page design (maybe not articles about fascists). ~ cygnis insignis 17:07, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

cygnis insignis, thank you! But if there's no consensus regarding this edit, how can we keep the previous version, preventing further edit wars? I'm not new to Wikipedia, but I must admit that I'm not a great expert in these stuffs. We're waiting until other users will express (or clarify) their preferences, but anyway, I'd like to listen to your opinion about the dispute's results. It could help. -- Nick.mon (talk) 20:19, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Why New Zealand is not a federal state for no reason like Australia?

Please Explain and get your answer, please! I hope you may understand what's going on with my question. Cyberllamamusic (talk) 15:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

New Zealand I think this a federal country, not a unitary country, unlike Australia. I hope New Zealand will be a federal status country by the near future amen...

This was also posted to Wikipedia:Teahouse#Why New Zealand is not a federal state for no reason like Australia? Please only post in one place. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:04, 4 May 2021 (UTC) Hello (talk) I already removed my post on teahouse that's your argument solved up.

Hello, Editor assistance. You have new messages at PrimeHunter's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hello, I want to talk again about why new Zealand is a unitary state not a federal state like Australia? please explain the underlying cause! Cyberllamamusic (talk) 09:12, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

It is usually considered rude to remove a post if someone has already taken the trouble to respond to it, especially as you do not appear to have read it. The Teahouse editor explained to you that the proper place to ask your question was at the ref desk. The Teahouse and Editor Help are for questions on how to use Wikipedia, not general knowledge. Curdle (talk) 10:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Why LIthuania is semi presidential republic not parliamentary republic?

Please explain the oddities why Lithuania is semi-presidential, unlike Estonia and Latvia which is both parliamentary. Lithuania is supposedly a parliamentary republic so the baltic tigers have synchronous them. I hope that prime minister Lithuania will be more powerful than the president. I think it is wrong to be a semi-presidential republic for Lithuania, but even know that Estonia and Latvia are both parliamentary not semi-presidential. The only problem is why baltic trio countries the 2 are parliamentary but the 1 is only the semi-presidential please explain to us! make us know about the baltic tigers regarding the government systems. Cyberllamamusic (talk) 09:26, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

As above; The Teahouse and Editor Help are for questions on how to use Wikipedia, not general knowledge. Curdle (talk) 10:10, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

hi jacking information

i cant log in 76.184.170.171 (talk) 10:28, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Dispute page deletion

[[5]]

An article I wrote was deleted on 11th December 2019 by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RHaworth User:RHaworth and/or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%9Ejarkur [[6]] I have no idea why this person would make the decision to delete my article -

Draft:Dominic Hassall (dentist)

It was written by me about a world-renowned dental educator and professor so that people who are interested in his work can learn more about him and find his papers and research. I fail to see why the user who deleted the article has deemed the page to be 'unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view'

It seems quite an unusual and destructive activity to autonomously patrol Wikipedia looking for articles to delete. Perhaps Wikipedia should be looking at the credentials of these people.

I would like the article to be restored as a draft so that I can review it and make any changes that may have triggered such an excessive response from this person.

Flowonline (talk) 11:48, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Flowonline, hello friend. The article was deleted by RHaworth for WP:G11 (unambiguous advertising or promotion). That means that the article was not written from a neutral point of view, and would require a complete re-write to make it sound factual, neutral, and encyclopedic. To obtain the deleted draft text, you can try posting on his talk page, or posting at WP:REFUND. Or you can try writing the draft from scratch, taking care to make the draft sound as factual and neutral and possible. You should avoid using words like "world-renowned". Hope that helps, good luck. –Novem Linguae (talk) 11:57, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

• This is forum shopping by a paid advertiser. Asked and answered at Wikipedia:Help desk#Deleted article. DuncanHill (talk) 13:21, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Addition and changes to Dave Smukler article by his daughter

I have a few additions/changes

1. Dave Smukler died on February 22, 1971 - I am his daughter. One of the wires in his pacemaker broke triggering a massive heart attack when he was standing in line at the Los Angeles International Airport.

2. I found a letter from my dad, Dave Smukler, that said he wanted to go into the army because of what was happening to his race (Jews) in Germany.

3. He was the West Coast Division Sales Manager for Bridgestone Tires.

4. Dave Smukler was not only the West Coast Commissioner for Pop Warner Football, but he also coached a team, The Reseda Rams, when I was a child.

5. In the Hall of Fame, there are two paychecks that Dave Smukler gave back to Bert Bell when the Eagles were having monetary struggles.

Karen Smukler Hudson (Dave Smukler's daughter) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.20.9 (talk) 18:29, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for doing the right thing and asking for another editor to modify an article for which you have a conflict of interest. That said, I recommend that you first make your request at Talk:David Smukler and then return to this page if no one responds to you there. But before you do that, please know that Wikipedia requires that information be supported by citations to reliable, published sources (see wp:SOURCES). When you make your request on the Dave Smukler talk page provide appropriate sources for any fact you want added. Unfortunately, there probably isn't one for (for example) your father's letter explaining why he joined the army. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 05:08, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

The Most Mysterious Song on the Internet

That article needs some attention and eyes from various editors. I've at least removed all the links to various reddit comments, but most of the references are just youtube links and a discord channel.--222.109.164.154 (talk) 15:39, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Editor's edit summaries (language, tone)

Hey all, good morning.

I'm concerned by Sparkle1 (talk · contribs) and the tone they use in edit summaries. This has been in the back of my mind for a while, and I've stopped myself from making a big thing about it, but I think maybe we've got to a point where a little advice is needed. I'm not an admin so my actions are limited.

1. . Use of the phrase "stupid new inclusion" and "cancerous" here - [7]
2. . Removal of a large amount of content without a summary here - [8]
3. . A run of edits on Leeds Council election articles using somewhat theatrical language here [9] which I did mention in the project page here [10] where I tagged Sparkle1 without their input to date.

At the beginning of the month they had some back and forth on their talk page with very harsh and uncooperative language ("I am completely not interested") here [11].

I would like to ask if I'm right to be concerned by their tone and language, whether I am being too "soft" in being concerned here? They seem to be very constructive editors in some ways but there are moments of conflict and temper that I now think might need guidance in dealing with. Once I've posted this here, I'll put the link on their talk page. doktorb _words^deeds 06:13, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Unfortunately, this page isn't for resolving editor issues. I hope to find the time to write an essay collecting all the recommendations for dealing with "disruptive" editors. Unfortunately, I've only gotten as far as collecting links to some of the "how to" pages. Here's my list:

● https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_requests/Guide

● https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_requests

● https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution#Resolving_user_conduct_disputes

● https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disruptive_editing#Dealing_with_disruptive_editors

● https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Competence_is_required

Hope this helps. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 15:56, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Help to understand Wikipedia Criteria

Hi, I need some help to understand why an article I have written in my mother language Portuguese Wikipédia about a pro-gun institution was fast deleted and an admin agreed with that, and the same article I translated the best I can and published in the English Wikipedia was accepted and verified with no problem ???

Here are the twins en:PROARMAS (OK) - pt:PROARMAS (EXCLUDED)

They justified the exclusion by "no relevance", but this one is currently the most proheminent institution on this subject in Brazil, and there are a lot of sources and external links to prove that...

Thanks in advance. --MarcRic::Ruby (talk) 06:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

pt:Wikipedia and en:Wikipedia have different policies. Few editors here will be familiar with the policies at pt:Wikipedia, and we certainly won't have any influence over what happens there. Maproom (talk) 07:02, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Marcric. The CSD they used looks very similar to our WP:A7. Maybe draft the article in your user space, make sure there are several citations to reliable sources such as newspapers and books, make sure there are credible claims of significance in the first paragraph, then move it or ask for a pt person's opinion on it? Good luck. –Novem Linguae (talk) 07:58, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank You both @Maproom: and @Novem Linguae:. --MarcRic::Ruby (talk) 16:21, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Removing something from my Wiki - living celebrity

Hello,

I would like to have something removed from my wiki page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natasha_Leggero - someone is misrepresenting my early life by citing a joke that I made in public forum as fact.

"She has stated that a DNA test revealed 6% Sub-Saharan African ancestry.[8]" Source 8: "The Nightly Show". cc.com. Comedy Central. Retrieved June 17, 2015.

I would like this removed as it is part of a comedic routine and not something that should be cited as part of my biography. Please remove this ASAP. Thank you.

-Natasha Leggero — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8000:E107:4031:E076:EA1C:BD4D:69E2 (talk) 20:14, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Done. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 20:31, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Re Daly Waters, Northern Territory, Australia.

(refactored) You mention in the article re Daly Waters that commercial aviation ceased in 1965. I wish to correct that statement, because from about September 1967 until August 1969, I was the Route Agent for both TAA and Ansett Airlines of Australia, servicing their F27 services from Adelaide to Darwin and reverse as they transited Daly WatersMChandler2 (talk) 11:30, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

I've moved this post to Talk:Daly_Waters, Northern_Territory and added a "disputed" template to the unsourced reference to 1965 at Daly Waters, Northern Territory#History. Butwhatdoiknow (talk) 01:32, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Requesting help with a large amount of research for "List of Bohemian Club Members"

A lot of people listed in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bohemian_Club_members have their "Living" column blank, and it will require a lot of research to fill in the missing data entries.

RandomUser1035763 (talk)

If we're being honest, my preferred solution would be to remove that column. 78.28.55.171 (talk) 01:05, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Issue with an account that is possibly a factory of propaganda editor(s)

The account is [User:Jingiby]. If you see the account edit history you will see that he (they) edit for 10 or more hours non stop each day. Last 24 hours alone, they made 40 edits. Going on like this, each day, for years. Something borderline impossible for a single human to do. So the suspect is they are a collective account, possibly paid for this. Second they have an agenda. It is a hitman account aimed exclusively at Macedonia related pages. Editing them towards a Bulgarian propaganda worldview. And this is in plain sight. Even from their main page the Bulgarian nationalist narrative is clear. We have had issues with this account for years. He/they were already banned before. You can read at comments from Macedonian reddit about this from today. Everyone finds this account suspiscious and problematic. https://www.reddit.com/r/mkd/comments/nvs8t7/англиски_артикли_на_википедија_за_македонија/ 1. Can someone help us? Is this the right place to ask this? If not where? 2. Can something be done about this. thank you FrankSupra (talk) 15:34, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, User:FrankSupra. Yes you can. Go to the Administrator's Noticeboard, here: WP:AN, and repeat what you said here. The Admins are both wise and powerful, they'll know what to do.

Here is that editor's statistics. The number of edits, and the time of the edits, look consistent with a single editor editing regularly during normal daytime hours.

I understand that this a pattern complaint, but if you can find diffs of particular bad edits that would help you. Herostratus (talk) 15:50, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

External link to relevant content is being deleted

Hello,

I've been trying to post some relevant content located on an external site to one of the wiki pages. Specifically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_PBY_Catalina

I have been trying to post a link to the images of the restoration of Catalina 2459 that started last July. Every time I post the link, an admin takes it down. I don't understand the reason for this. This is precisely the type of content that attracts people to Wikipedia so what is the policy that allows this?

There is no self promotion going on. You will not find my name or related information anywhere on the pages or images. I've volunteered to do this so I don't make a dime off the images. While visitors do show up at my site to view the images that's exactly what happens with every external link so I don't see that as an issue.

I've had no issue with any of the other historical aircraft I have posted on Wikipedia. Given the response I see from Wikipedia on these other aircraft, it's fulfilling Wikipedia's goal of providing the world with relevant information at great depth. It is also unique content in a unique format that can't be found anywhere else. Again, I am puzzled as to why the admin pulls the link.

Regarding this aircraft, this is the oldest flying PBY 5A Catalina in the world with 3 sub kills during WWII. It is being restored to its original configuration as a WWII sub hunter. This is a historically significant aircraft and I have been documenting the restoration for the Collings Foundation in Stow, MA. It is currently being restored at American Aero Services in New Smyrna Beach, FL.

The page I would like to post is here: http://americanaeroservices.com/pby5acatalina2459grphc2.html

 Along with the record of the restoration, these images also document the remarkable engineering that went into the Consolidated Vultee design dating to the 1930s.  On several levels this a significant and detailed look at the aircraft. 

Please advise.

Thank you.

Regards,

John — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9001:3404:706:68D1:38B2:FC9E:FFB2 (talk) 21:37, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello. Based on your edits [12] from this IP, you have WP:BOLDly edited an article. That is fine. You have been reverted twice, you can see the stated reasons at [13], that is also fine. It seems plausible that you have made more similar edits from another IP, if that is so you are now WP:EDITWARing, that is not fine.

Now, your next step is to go to Talk:Consolidated PBY Catalina and start a discussion per WP:BRD. WP:ELYES, WP:ELMAYBE and WP:ELNO are probably relevant here. Good luck. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:45, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

For the record, I checked the link that John wants to add and I got an error message Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. Archived versions of the link show the same. starship.paint (exalt) 03:38, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Robert Clive

Clarity, simplicity, and accuracy require time and effort. They also require generosity.

I just watched hours of effort abruptly disappear from my screen without explanation or warning while writing in a "sandbox" without any thought of anonymous censorship.

My subject was Robert Clive based on a semester paper that I wrote nearly 60 years ago about Clive's character and his influence on the western world. My resource was a newly-built library at the University of the South and the contemporary newspapers it contained.

I have been writing measurably useful material for 40 years and offered to share what I learned with Wiki.

But people can view writing differently.

To me, writing is the most elegant form of engineering -- the process of structuring ideas on paper. You begin with an idea and substantiate it. But as Clemenceau would say "Words can disguise thoughts." In the beginning Wiki offered useful information that is usefully presented and easily accessed -- first for programmers and then for writers.

The abrupt deletion of good faith writing and the redirection of my screen to references that suggest both plagiarism and thoughtful writing are against editorial policy - is unsettling.

The foundation of everything is logos.

Please return what you deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rick's 2nd Faust (talk • contribs)

Can you provide a link to the page where the deletion occurred? We'll take a look. –Novem Linguae (talk) 11:53, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Ping Rick's 2nd Faust. –Novem Linguae (talk) 09:55, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Rick's 2nd Faust, as an admin, I can see your deleted contributions. You have no deleted contributions under this account, in a userspace sandbox or otherwise. If you made them under a different account, you will have to tell us what that account is for anyone to be able to help you. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 05:21, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Possible conflict of Interest

Hello. I am fairly new to Wikipedia and not sure how to address this. Randy Fine has a page, who is is a Republican politician in the Florida House of Representatives. A user with the name @Floridagopman: (Which seems like Randy Fine himself because the name has Florida and initials GOP is synonymous with the Republican Party) has made many changes to page. Glancing at the edits, this user has removed many negative things about Randy Fine and put in positive things.

I put a warning on Floridagopman's talk page. Anything else to do for now ? Thanks RockyMaivia88 (talk) 21:55, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

RockyMaivia88, this sounds like something you ought to bring up at the conflict of interest noticeboard. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 23:01, 5 June 2021 (UTC)