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::The issue here is not if the links are useful, but if there's a WP:COI. --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] 19:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
::The issue here is not if the links are useful, but if there's a WP:COI. --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] 19:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Discussion started at [[Talk:Qualitative_research#Stustu12.27s_external_links]].--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus| Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </font>]]</span></sub> 19:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
:::Discussion started at [[Talk:Qualitative_research#Stustu12.27s_external_links]].--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus| Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </font>]]</span></sub> 19:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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=="Controversy"== |
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''Copied from Talk:Qualitative research:'' "As a fairly inexperienced wikipedian, I can assure you this 'controversy' is a deterrent to future engagement. My real curiosity is why the other external links are considered legitimate? User:stustu12 —Preceding comment was added at 02:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)" |
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:I've copied your comments to here for a more private discussion than would happen on the article talk page. I hope you don't mind. |
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:First I'm very sorry how this situation has evolved. For me this started as just a very simple and straightforward case of spamming with a conflict of interest. Piotrus intervened for you without understanding the issues at all in a manner that's potentially embarrassing for you (and him). |
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:I think [[Wp:spam#How_not_to_be_a_spammer]] pretty clearly explains the situation. My concern has nothing to do with the quality of the links, but how you added them. Piotrus apparently doesn't understand this. |
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:As far as my dispute with you is concerned, that's about all there is to it. I'm happy to explain the situation further, answer your questions, or point out good ways to get others involved to help. I recommend you follow the suggestions in WP:COI closely, especially in using the talk pages when you want information added where you have a coi. |
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:As for Piotrus, because he's persisting in claiming these problems do not exist, I feel it's best if I take his complaints to a forum where they'll be handled by experts in these matters. I don't think you need to be involved, though others will probably ask for your response to the suggestions in WP:COI. --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] ([[User talk:Ronz|talk]]) 03:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Lawrence Shulman
If you are still around, the article needs some improvements. DGG 23:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
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- Please also read WP:EL, WP:SPAM, and WP:NOT#LINK regarding your recent edits. --Ronz 18:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree. Those links are useful in related contexts.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 19:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
- The issue here is not if the links are useful, but if there's a WP:COI. --Ronz 19:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
"Controversy"
Copied from Talk:Qualitative research: "As a fairly inexperienced wikipedian, I can assure you this 'controversy' is a deterrent to future engagement. My real curiosity is why the other external links are considered legitimate? User:stustu12 —Preceding comment was added at 02:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)"
- I've copied your comments to here for a more private discussion than would happen on the article talk page. I hope you don't mind.
- First I'm very sorry how this situation has evolved. For me this started as just a very simple and straightforward case of spamming with a conflict of interest. Piotrus intervened for you without understanding the issues at all in a manner that's potentially embarrassing for you (and him).
- I think Wp:spam#How_not_to_be_a_spammer pretty clearly explains the situation. My concern has nothing to do with the quality of the links, but how you added them. Piotrus apparently doesn't understand this.
- As far as my dispute with you is concerned, that's about all there is to it. I'm happy to explain the situation further, answer your questions, or point out good ways to get others involved to help. I recommend you follow the suggestions in WP:COI closely, especially in using the talk pages when you want information added where you have a coi.
- As for Piotrus, because he's persisting in claiming these problems do not exist, I feel it's best if I take his complaints to a forum where they'll be handled by experts in these matters. I don't think you need to be involved, though others will probably ask for your response to the suggestions in WP:COI. --Ronz (talk) 03:50, 5 December 2007 (UTC)