User talk:Slatersteven

August 2007

Please do not delete content from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Talk:Indian Rebellion of 1857. Your edits do not appear to be constructive and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use Wikipedia:Sandbox for test edits. Thank you. Do not delete items from Talk pages. Rjd0060 20:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Then why was the post imidiantly before it (to which I replied) removed? (Slatersteven 20:37, 28 August 2007 (UTC))

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Fair doos, I was not aware it would break the rules. [[Slatersteven 12:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)]]

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War of 1812

I don't have much of an issue with either of the things you wrote in the article War of 1812 but you have to cite it to put it in. I'd think that there should be plenty of books that you can quote. Tirronan (talk) 01:55, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

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With regards to you comments on list of atrocities, I think you might find the talk and archived talk pages of list of massacres of interest, because that list has been in existence for a number of years and has run into many of the problems that a list of atrocities will have. There have been similar problems with genocides in history (it took a long time to remove all the entries that did not have third party citations to events claimed to be a genocide), but because there is a legal definition and several scholarly definitions it is much easier to build a less biased list for that subject. Regards Philip Baird Shearer (talk) 00:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

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Your edit on the Reliable sources/Noticeboard

It appears that nobody else has yet asked you about this, but this edit you made a few days ago on WP:RS/N caused a mass deletion of active threads that took a couple of admins, Haemo and Slp1, some fussing to fix. The edit itself, changing the archive timer from 28 days to 30, seems to be a bit odd in and of itself. Since this also happened shortly after I made a posting on WP:RS/N, which also ended up being included in the mass deletion, could you explain why you decided to make such an odd, undiscussed change in the first place on such a busy board? -BC aka Callmebc (talk) 16:47, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I was not aware I had. I just appended at the end of an question. I can only assume that I inadvetantly delited some stuff, but I have no idea what I did to achive this. I appoligise. [[Slatersteven (talk) 17:47, 19 January 2008 (UTC)]]

Thanks for relying, but I'm still a little bit puzzled: are you saying you didn't change the archive timer from 28 days to 30? It sounds as though you were just doing normal editing, and from your edits here, it indeed looks as though you were. But if you go back to this edit change, you will see near the top how "algo = old(28d)" was changed to "algo = old(30d)". That's not at all a normal edit and one that would appear to be difficult to do accidentally. To clarify, are you saying you didn't make this change or at least don't recall doing it? I'm just trying to figure out the sequence and cause of this rather odd incident, and if you could be as specific as possible about what you remember doing or not doing , that would be immensely helpful and appreciated. Thanks in advance. -BC aka Callmebc (talk) 19:09, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

All I rember doing was adding the comment on the part about Saul David. As far as I recal I clicked on the link to that part, clicked the edit button and typed. I did not intentionaly (and did not even know) I had changed any part of the top of the page (and to the best of my memory did not) I never play about with any of the top parts of the page (I am not too sure what the varius formating codes do).[[Slatersteven (talk) 19:25, 20 January 2008 (UTC)]]

Thanks for the further info. I think I now have a rough idea what might have happened. -BC aka Callmebc (talk) 22:15, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Could you enlighten me?[[Slatersteven (talk) 18:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)]]

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Hindi rendition of Indian Rebellion of 1857

Hi Slatersteven. Rereading your comments on the Talk:Indian_Rebellion_of_1857 I sense that you were mislead on the meaning of the Hindi translation. Was the translation misrepresented? If yes, please do let me know. Thanks! --RegentsPark (talk) 20:04, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

“For those of us who are multi-lingual, it is very handy to know what the term for these series of events in Hindi is as well. DemolitionMan (talk) 09:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)”

“Too bad. What is your reasoning for suggesting that "it is hardly necessary to put in the translation" - it is an India related article and English and Hindi enjoy official status of the Federal Govt - while languages like Marathi and Bengali are official languages of different states but not of the Federal Govt. I am putting it right back. DemolitionMan (talk) 15:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC) “

This clearly gives the impresion it’s a translation, not an alterantiv name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Indian_Rebellion_of_1857/Archive_5#Hindi_text

“Correct me if I am wrong. This is what Wikipedia policy states: "If there is no commonly used English name, use an accepted transliteration of the name in the original language. Latin-alphabet languages, like Spanish or French, should need no transliteration, but names from languages which do not use a Latin alphabet, like Chinese and Russian, do." We have stated clearly in this article that there is no commonly used English name for these series of events. So based on the policy, shouldn't the transliteration of the name in the original language be used? DemolitionMan (talk) 17:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)” This states that it is a translation, not an alternative title. [[Slatersteven (talk) 20:58, 26 February 2008 (UTC)]]

Thanks!--RegentsPark (talk) 21:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Thats OK .[[Slatersteven (talk) 19:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)]]

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Wit's End

Hi there, Not sure what to do with user:Desione who is making unhelpful edits on a number of British India history pages. He first appeared on February 14 on British Raj, a page I have been editing since October 2006. His talk page diatribes are full of words like "evil" etc. He has made a few edits, but his writing is so poor and the citations so unreliable (here is an example), that I don't know how to proceed. Upon my return to Wikipedia in March after a longish winter break, I made my first edit in Indian Rebellion of 1857, since it is a parent article of one of British Raj's sections. The very next day, he appeared for the first time on that page, and you know that history. Then, when I went back to editing the Raj page (during one of "Indian Rebellion"'s lockdowns), and subsequently began to work on another section, he appeared on the parent article of that section, Company rule in India, for the first time, and has been confronting me there. Here is my last version of the page and here is what he has been reverting to. Compare the writing. Compare the quality of the references. And I am being accused of POV. Very frustrated. What should I do? Fowler&fowler«Talk» 06:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Ihave to admit to some doubts about user:Desione, His style seems familiar, especially his use of ‘thank you’ when he believes he has made cutting point. But by that same token I have to assume good faith. So until I can see definite proof of wrong doing I shall do nothing. There is also the fact he seems to not be able to tell the difference between himself and DM.[[Slatersteven (talk) 16:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)]]

Thanks. He seems to have backed off for now. We'll see. Have my fingers crossed. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

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1857 conflict book link

Hello Slater, I have undone the edit you made deleting the disambig link I put in the article. Although I did not clearly understand what you meant by "not a clean up an addition, and is it a likely re-diection any way? N other book is listed in this way on the page", I am assuming you were under the impression this would be a redirect to the mutiny article itself. If this is correct then I'll point out that a seperate article exists on the book, which itself has some notabillity, and since it shares the name that a lot of Indian do use to describe, I believe a disambig is neccessary. I have reinstated the link, albeit slightly differently, but this should be satisfactory. Please leave me a message if you disagree. Thanks[[::User: rueben_lys| rueben_lys]] ([[::User talk: rueben_lys|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/ rueben_lys|contribs]]) 20:44, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello Slater, thanks for the message you left on my talk page. I think that matter was addressed in the article talk page, although I invited comments on a related but somewhat different issue. Please do leave your comments on the talk page. Regards[[::User: rueben_lys| rueben_lys]] ([[::User talk: rueben_lys|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/ rueben_lys|contribs]]) 17:56, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello Slater, I am afraid dont understand what you're trying to say. I was initially disappointed that you deleted the link without notifying me, and I also felt the link deserved to be there. I thought your deletion was unjustified and confrontational and not notifying me either in the talkpage or on my talkpage somewhat discourteous. If that has offended you then it certainly was not my intention. I hence (initially) reinstated the link and left the first message on you talk page. This happened once more with another editor, who reverted without notifying me or giving a reason I thought was weak. After I had undone this second revert, I left a message in the talk page of the article, explaining why I added the link and why I felt it should be there. However, the editor in question subsequently explained in the talk page why the disambig link was inappropriate, and I accepted his argument since it made sense to me. I therefore think this matter is now resolved. I suggested subsequently that a seperate section on literature and commemorations be included in the article, on which I haven't recieved any comments so far. Please do have a look at Talk:Indian Rebellion of 1857. Regards [[::User: rueben_lys| rueben_lys]] ([[::User talk: rueben_lys|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/ rueben_lys|contribs]]) 18:19, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I did not say I didn't want you to communicate with me :), I am merely reasuring you that the matter's been resolved.[[::User: rueben_lys| rueben_lys]] ([[::User talk: rueben_lys|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/ rueben_lys|contribs]]) 18:45, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Citations, use of template

Hello Slater, thanks for the message in the Talk:Hindu-German Conspiracy page. The name, date and page links to the ==notes== section which through the {{reflist}} template lists the author, publication date and page number. This is in turn linked through the harvard ciation templates to the literature section. It is a part of the {{citation}} templates designed for use to cite references consistently. I realise this is a bit hard to understand, but you can see how it works in the main article page, as opposed to the editing version you're seeing.[[::User: rueben_lys| rueben_lys]] ([[::User talk: rueben_lys|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/ rueben_lys|contribs]]) 19:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:ref

Hello slater, thanks for the message and for taking the time to check the refs, I have now added the missing refs, which I thought I had added, but evidently hadn't. Thanks for your help, please let me know if you have anymore comments[[::User: rueben_lys| rueben_lys]] ([[::User talk: rueben_lys|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/ rueben_lys|contribs]]) 19:49, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

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apologies

I must apologize. I thought you were using a sock-puppet to basically patronize me. My apologies. I also apologize if I said anything out of line, I get carried away a lot over these kinds of things. I wouldn't mind continuing our debate, and I will try to be a little more civil. I just really love my country and I think that sometimes gets the better of me and I don't think before I say stuff. Sorry.Prussian725 (talk) 02:44, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

We all get a litle heated sometimes. [[Slatersteven (talk) 12:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)]]

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hello

hello! I lived a washington!! I don't like obama. obama is crazy!crazy!crazy!crazy!! hahahaha

I assume this has no point[[Slatersteven (talk) 13:51, 7 January 2009 (UTC)]]

how?? Athos, Porthos, and Aramis (talk) 00:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

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I though I was in sandbox sorry[[Slatersteven (talk) 13:11, 7 May 2009 (UTC)]]

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B. Fairbairn

I'm sorry, I was curt in my last response. I disagree, first, that I was shouting, and that saying anyone is "anti-American" is an insult. Furthermore, you "templated the regulars" by copy and pasting rules; we know the rules, thanks, you can treat us like equals and discuss them rather than throwing them at us. I am trying to discuss his edits; you're the one who came along mistakenly thinking we weren't. --Golbez (talk) 20:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Shouting is captualisation http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:United_States&diff=next&oldid=295405350 as here. I said it was debatedly an insult (a lot depends on intention. but your use of the pahrase3 Ant-American pap does seem to imply you meant it to be a billitaling of his edits on the grounds of lack of imperic value. If you know the rules then why did you (and others) breach them?[[Slatersteven (talk) 21:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)]]

Shouting, in internet parlance, tends to mean typing in all caps. Capitalizing a single word out of a hundred doesn't qualify. Yes, calling him an idiot was bad; I did not do it, but your comment was directed towards the whole thread. Perhaps instead of using an article talk page to discuss an individual, you should have taken it to their talk page. That said, I apologize for my reactions to your post. You're right, in general, but I would disagree that this is a new editor who needs to be coddled. My rudeness was purely a response to his; I had intended to stay silent on the whole thing until he came to my talk page first. --Golbez (talk) 22:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

We can all get carried away in the heat of debate (I know i do sometimes).[[Slatersteven (talk) 13:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)]]

I don't get it

Monarchism is more democratic than political parties? Also your signature has too many brackets =/ 92.0.138.3 (talk) 11:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

No just far less corrupt.[[Slatersteven (talk) 13:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)]]

Charles II--Streona (talk) 04:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Oliver Cromwell, the man who marched into parliment with solders. All systems are flawed but as a largley symbolic head of state with few constitutional powers a Monarch is as good as any elected leader, b ut without the bagage.[[Slatersteven (talk) 11:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC)]]

United States

G'day Steve. The reason I am writing is to let you know that there will be no more United States edits from me!!
Thanks for the entertainment, buddy. I will now try to find something else to do. Have you any positive suggestions? B. Fairbairn  Talk  20:44, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Viet Cong killing schoolteachers

See this. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 23:08, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Suggestions

Thanks Slatersteven. B. Fairbairn  Talk  9:00, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

your signature

I'm just guessing, but it looks as if you're typing your signature by doing [[~~~~]]. Just to let you know that the brackets aren't necessary; typing four ~s is sufficient. Then again, if that was the effect you were aiming for, then disregard this. :) --Golbez (talk) 17:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Nick Griffin

I think you'll find that there is now nothing in the article that is not referenced from a reliable source - whereas only a few days ago, most of the article was entirely unreferenced. If the article was GA or FA I would understand your concerns, but as it was when I came across it? Please. I have no desire to maintain the poor quality of articles. I will shortly be nominating it for GAN. Parrot of Doom (talk) 13:38, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Please see Talk:Nick_Griffin#Loss_of_eye this discussion. Parrot of Doom (talk) 16:06, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Your behaviour is becoming a problem. I see no alternative but to report your continual reversions, your inserts of unreliable sources, your failing to use proper citation templates in a WP:GAN, to an administrator. You seem to revel in picking fault in the slightest issue, when no real fault is present (for instance, your failure to understand how to read Harvard Citations). Parrot of Doom (talk) 15:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

[1] reported. Parrot of Doom (talk) 15:14, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

the eye part says according to Nick Griffin, then does not use his version (and the sources you referance in one case and you cite one as making a source unreliable. I have no idea what proper citation templates are, perhps you would care to show how thet are supposed to look. I am aslo trying to improve the article, and make it accurate, I will admit I did not know how to read the Harvard citations, and admited my mistake.Slatersteven (talk) 15:21, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Read page 63 of the source used. Then come back and tell me that the two are unconnected. Do you know how to read page 63 of the Ryan book? Parrot of Doom (talk) 12:45, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I would like to see the exact quote that states the two are linkedSlatersteven (talk) 12:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, so Carlile reports The Rune to the police, and the CPS then prosecute Griffin, who is found guilty. Griffin also is secretly recorded saying some pretty nasty things about Carlile at about the same time. Even though the two may not be linked in terms of Griffin's prosecution, you don't think that they should be mentioned together? Are you kidding me? This is becoming a joke. Parrot of Doom (talk) 12:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Not about the same time a year before. So you admit then that they care not linkied with regards to the prosecution (the section you are putting them in), well thank you for that. They may have a link, but it is not for use to draw a conclusion that is not explicitly stated in the sources. It may be there is a link, but if so the link should be in the-semitism section, not in the scetion about the trail (which you admit has no direct link to the Cook film)Slatersteven (talk) 13:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I am not drawing conclusions. You are. Firstly, the difference between 1997 and 1998 can be as little as 1 day. Secondly, the source used (I'm glad you finally understand how to read them) explains fully the contextual link between the two.

Maybe you should create a heading and a section for every tiny facet of Griffin's life. Or perhaps you could show me what large-scale notable additions you've made to the page? I'm in the business of writing interesting articles that are based on reliable sources, articles that make sense to those who read them. You've repeatedly demonstrated that you have no real idea how to do this. Frankly I find your behaviour and your arguments childish and puerile. Both Griffin's comments about Carlile, and the trial (which Carlile prompted) are inextricably linked. They belong together, in the same section. I've had it with this behaviour, and I've had enough of explaining myself to you. Parrot of Doom (talk) 13:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Reported

for the second time. Do not edit my talk page again, I am not interested in what you have to say. I have better things to do. Parrot of Doom (talk) 13:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)