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The John Barrymore page

hey David, we've had our differences in the past but there's a poster named Baseball Bugs whose editing/vandalising the John Barrymore entry. I put in his text a line about his trip to India in 1937 and cited two sources where he went to do some "soul searching". This poster has a problem with the term "soul searching" which makes me think he's a religious fanatic and not interested in the truth. I've tried explaining to this poster on his talk page but he's being elusive. perhaps he needs a block on him. What to do? your help would be appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.2.100.208 (talk) 14:11, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Alice Sebold pic

Actually, I like that one the best too. She's talking, there's a resemblance to the cover photo that I had liked, and the lively background helps.

Now if only I could have been there to get my book signed. I do owe you for this one ... if we meet at a meetup, you can have a drink of your choice on me. Daniel Case 02:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Would you mind taking a look at an article I created?

In the last few weeks, I've returned to the project on a more regular basis, and I've now written the article Tom Dula. I need some extra eyes on it, and I appreciated your input when we worked on James Buchanan together. As such, I'd really appreciate it, if you have the time to take a look at my new article. Regards, K. Scott Bailey 03:45, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you SO much for the Barnstar! And the kind words were too much. Tom Dula was a labor of love for me, and wrote itself after I got going on it. I appreciate your taking a look at it. If you have any ideas for improving it, I'd love to hear them. K. Scott Bailey 01:42, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to seek out such images. Where to go, what to do? ... I do definitely agree that the article would be further improved by finding some image of him. It's hard to say whether one exists or not, as he was from a desperately poor family who probably rarely--if ever--had photographs taken of themselves. K. Scott Bailey 02:59, 20 October 2007 (UTC)`

Getting pictures

I want a picture of Gene Amdahl for his article (he's very old, and very famous in my field). I have no idea how to get in touch with him, which is something you are quite good at. Can you give me some pointers? Raul654 03:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Jack the Ripper

I'm a bit unclear on how images of murder scenes can be used in Wikipedia articles. I refer specifically to the Ripper murders of the 19th century, and the somewhat famous, yet gruesome crime scene photo here. I am aware that they are in the public domain, and am fully aware that WP is not censored, but I am wondering about the value of its usage in the jack the ripper article. Can you Devil's Advocate for me? - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 17:07, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

The argument against its use is that it is superfluous and unnecessary. It's not a winning argument, but it's the argument. Crime scene photos in the public domain add a lot of value to the article. It gives the impression of the horror of the crime that neutral encyclopedic wording do not, and should be included. --David Shankbone 18:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, David. Your input, as always, is invaluable. :) - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 05:36, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Ted Frank

Given the serious disputes involving this individual that you have been involved with on-wiki, culminating in a bitter series of noticeboard reports and an arbitration case, it would be best if you refrained from editing the mainspace article on Ted Frank.

I would especially appreciate your no longer mentioning the arbitration case in mainspace edit summaries, as the way you have been doing this is really not appropriate. Newyorkbrad 19:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

• I disagree completely. First, CHL is also a major participant in the ArbCom case, and is in fact THF's advocate and the one who presented the evidence. Second, CHL removed pertinent criticism lodged by Frank, and which he is currently going to resurrect in a new article on "Wikipedia's bias." You saying it is "really not appropriate" doesn't make it "not appropriate." You'll need to supply better reasons than that you say so. It's less appropriate to have CHL removing information from Ted Frank's page, since he arguably has a COI in doing so. I suspect you have told him as much? --David Shankbone 20:22, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
  • A mainspace article about an individual should generally not be edited by a user who has been in a protracted dispute with that individual. Newyorkbrad 20:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Nor should it be edited by a person who has acted as that individual's advocate or proxy in the same dispute, especially when they are removing information that I think the community would find dubious, given that individual's statements in ArbCom. It was also perfectly appropriate to mention that person's statement - ArbCom isn't secret. I will restore the information again if it is removed; there is no policy, guideline or ArbCom ruling stating anything to the contrary. I encourage you to speak to Cool Hand Luke so that you don't seem so one-sided in your advice. --David Shankbone 20:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd stick to criticizing what David writes rather than where he writes it. THF indicated that he's no longer going to edit Wikipedia, so, assuming good faith on his part, there shouldn't be any more clashes between DSB and THF. THF was intimately involved in the fracas. No more THF, no more problems between DSB and THF. Injunctive relief is pretty serious and should be reserved for situations where one can no longer AGF. As I recall, there were no sanctions proposed against DSB from the Arb case--only against THF. Additionally, most of the proposed findings of fact related to THF revolved around his edits and his style of editing. The sole proposed finding of fact regarding DSB revolved around his use of THF's real name after THF requested that he stop. Would you have the result of that case be that DSB was barred from editing particular articles? That doesn't seem to be a rational conclusion. Ossified 05:04, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Exactly, but really the issue comes down to an article that the community worked diligently on to create, and CHL removing a piece of information that is not only pertinent and deemed notable by a spectrum of users, but that reared its head in the ArbCom itself, namely THF stating he is going to write an article that is highly critical of Wikipedia's bias. Of course, CHL went so far as to take down the article to remove my reference to THF writing a Wikipedia hit piece out of the edit summaries, and for some unknown reason newyorkbrad chiming in that it's inappropriate to mention that THF is preparing such an article. It also makes no sense how this could be considered "harassment" especially since I referenced THF's own words, and he doesn't even edit here anymore. And I was restoring information that was removed with misguided reasoning. --David Shankbone 05:49, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Kudos

...on the interview with Gay Talese. I love his writing, and to read such a far-ranging interview with the guy was fascinating. Considering you're always photographing all these people, I can't believe you doing reporting wasn't thought of earlier (or implemented I guess). Anyway, congrats on the interesting work - VanTucky ^Talk 22:09, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

True?

Is Erection by David Shanknone,jpg your thing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.64.11 (talk) 14:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

While I would never ask such a question, I'm thrilled to have this talk page watchlisted! :-P Jeffpw 14:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

• No, it's a model's thing. And Jeff - !!! --David Shankbone 15:29, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Deadjournalist

Just wanted to let you know I've concurred and also reverted this linkspammer for WP:COI vio, and have left a note on his page. Good vigilance! --Tenebrae 17:29, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. If you want to get an admin on this at the Noticeboard page,, I'll go back and start re-undoing his linkspam. I've left him a second notice just now. Geez, some people. Thanks for catching it.--Tenebrae 03:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, it just looks like one article he re-linkspammed. I fixed it. --Tenebrae 03:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Gee, I guess my familiarity with the field comes through, huh? :- )

Don't know as many as I used to, but I can ask around. What would this be for, how much time would be involved, and would it be over phone or in person? --Tenebrae 03:19, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/THF-DavidShankBone Dismissed

The above named Arbitration case was dismissed due to the inactivity of one of the participants.

For the Arbitration Committee, - Penwhale | ^{Blast him / Follow his steps} 22:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

click here sent me elsewhere

I left a comment on the wrong page via the big click here box at top. See my contribs to find it. Jidanni 23:30, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

• Ah, thanks for pointing that out. It's French, an Americanized version of Chanque-Bonne. --David Shankbone 23:38, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

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Preity Zinta FA

Hi there. The Preity Zinta article has recently achieved A-class status. Due to the wealth of support I have decided to now nominate for an FA class article which I believe and judging by the comments of others is pretty much up to. In my view it is better than some existing FA actor articles. I would therefore be very grateful if you could give it a final review in your own time and leave your comments and views at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Preity Zinta. Thankyou, your comments are always valuable. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 10:57, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

City Ballet

Agreed; I was in the process of replacing the current season rep. with their repertory of all ballets as your message arrived. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertgreer (talk • contribs) 15:06, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Faggot

Go fuck McGreevy's loose asshole you cock suckin' abomination. Media Tycoon 1 20:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)