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Nominator's comments: The Senkaku Islands dispute has heated up considerably in the past few weeks, and this is just the latest incident in a string of incidents that includes threats by both Japan and China to use military force to enforce their respective claims to the area. --Jayron32 22:11, 24 January 2013 (UTC) --Jayron3222:11, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I'm not convinced this minor confrontation is enough to get this ongoing dispute on ITN; only water cannons were used and no one was hurt. If there was a more intense confrontation, such as the use of arms to halt a ship or injuries, then I could see this getting posted. 331dot (talk) 22:20, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose The verdict is not surprising, the principal is not that notable and certainly not at the top of his field. Hate to oppose two noms in a row by the same person, but this is just not incredible news with a high reader interest in a great article. μηδείς (talk) 20:08, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. From what I gather, this individual was not the mastermind of the attack or otherwise had some sort of leadership role; he seemed to be more of a functionary figure who just scouted things out. As Doktorbuk said, essentially this is just an afterthought. 331dot (talk) 22:09, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As I'm discussing over on WT:ITN, posting this story would be far preferable to leaving ITN un-updated (it's been four days since an update). However the arguments above are fully in line with our standard practices here. I think this shows that are current practices are in need of serious revision. LukeSurltc22:54, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Stories should be posted because there is a consensus that they are notable; they shouldn't just be posted for the sake of posting one. 331dot (talk) 23:31, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This is a policy issue, not a legal development, and not one that lends itself to featuring a relevant good article readers are looking for, which is the point of ITN. μηδείς (talk) 04:36, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not strictly opposed to the idea per se, this seems like a newsworthy event to me, but any relevant articles, either women in combat or women in the military by country are in pretty rough shape, and by the time they were cleaned up to anything of the standard we usually post here, it wouldn't be timely news anymore. --Jayron3204:43, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. As said by others above, this is just a government policy change; if it was Congress passing a law directing such a change, that might be noteworthy enough, but this is just DOD Secretary Panetta starting a policy change(which will take time to go into effect) that a future POTUS and Secretary could change back. Also no article nominated. 331dot (talk) 11:11, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per LittleGreenApple. There is simply no major impact beyond this story. It sounds interesting and amusing indeed, but definitely not a news that bears much notability at all.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:11, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose As far as I understood, this is mostly a technicality as women have been allowed to serve even before. And anyway, there is nothing revolutionary about women in military. Cf. Israel Defense Forces, for example. --hydrox (talk) 14:59, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Three of the largest managers of U.S.-based money market funds announce a change of policy toward greater transparency – they will give daily rather than monthly data on fund assets. (Reuters)
A court in Thailand sentences a magazine editor to ten years' imprisonment for publishing articles that were deemed to have insulted the monarchy. (BBC)
The United States Armed Forces overturns its ban on women serving in combat, reversing a 1994 rule, and potentially clearing the way for women to serve in front-line units and elite commando forces. (BBC)(USA Today)
European champions Chelsea are defeated by Swansea City after a 0–0 draw in the second semifinal match; the game is marred by an incident involving Chelsea midfielder Eden Hazard, who is sent off after violently kicking a ball boy in the midriff during the game. (The Guardian)(BBC Sport)(Sky News)
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Nominator's comments: Published in Nature yesterday, reported in WSJ today. Science and technology are an underrepresented topic for ITN, interesting cross-disciplinary topic. --Jayron3219:30, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose no doubt this report belongs to Nature, but I really don't see the actual potential for actually being relevant to the public since DNA is a very un-atom-economical way to store information. Plus, a book has been encoded as DNA before. Nergaal (talk) 19:48, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose this is somewhat interesting ("Oh, neat") from a science point of view, but has long been discussed and the actual achievement, rather than being a huge practical advance, is instead rather academic. μηδείς (talk) 20:05, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This isn't a new discovery, simply a different use of one; DNA has been encoded for other purposes before(such as a book). 331dot (talk) 22:12, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Cardinal Glemp served as Primate of the Catholic Church in Poland for 23 28 years, including the turbulent times of Solidarity, martial law, and transition to democracy and market economy. He was one of the most influential clergymen in a country where the Catholic Church is still a powerful force. --— Kpalion(talk)23:21, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support as the fourth most notable Pole of the 80's (behind Walesa, the Pope and the tyrant Jaruzelski--politically, if not morally) for those not too young to remember him. One of the last important Cold War figures. μηδείς (talk) 00:43, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose "Promising" a referendum is way too far away from a referendum passing. If we post this, we'd be posting the approval of the referendum as it heads to voters too. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:57, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Promising the referendum is the news event here. It is significant enough by itself, as evidienced by the news coverage of just the promise of one. --RA (talk) 22:21, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The blurb doesn't say the UK has left. Or that there is a referendum act. Or that discussions with the EU have taken place. It says that David Cameron has promised a referendum on UK withdrawal from the EU. To quote the WSJ above:
"U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron Wednesday pledged to hold a referendum on whether the country should remain a member of the European Union within 2½ years of the next general election, which is due in 2015."
How? Why? It will take a year, at least, before we know what (if anything) he will ask the EU to repatriate. It will take until 2015 to know if he is still Prime Minister. Most of your reasoning falls foul of CRYSTAL doktorbwordsdeeds23:40, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Huge news in the UK, but nothing has actually happened yet. ITN will (would?) certainly post the referendum itself. So far Cameron has simply announced his intention to fight the next election on a manifesto which includes a promise of a referendum. That's a long way off; it may well (hopefully imo) never happen. Modest Geniustalk00:06, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. ITN shouldn't be covering campaign promises. The actual referendum itself, should it come to pass, would be a good fit, however. Resolute00:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Not even government policy, as the PM's coalition partners are against this move. This is just a manifesto pledge for a far-off election. AlexTiefling (talk) 00:34, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support The Prime Minister of the UK promising a referendum on withdrawal from the EU is huge news, and a major development from the status quo. 87.63.85.30 (talk) 09:03, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Honestly, I have a really hard time seeing this being actualised and as per above, this should only be posted when it it actually happens. Also, I suggest someone change the title of the nomination, at the moment it's extremely misleading. YuMaNuMaContrib12:51, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Irish politicians respond to High Court Judge Paul Carney's order that a man who plead guilty in court to repeatedly raping his daughter as a child be granted bail and provisional released. TaoiseachEnda Kenny comments on a nation "filled with revulsion" at the outcome of the case, while opposition politician Gerry Adams refers to abuse his father inflicted on others. (BBC)(Irish Independent)
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Oppose The article is a mess. It needs to be restructured before it can be linked on the main page. In particular, the various section sub-headers should be removed and the content phased into a broader section.--WaltCip (talk) 21:50, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: polls close in 11 hours and results will trickle in soon. Im just working on adding some stuff there (here was a citations tag on the page though, once that gets done an update with reactions can make this ready) Lihaas (talk) 08:13, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not ready, for the simple reason that the results haven't been announced yet, let alone incorporated into the article. They're due to come out on Wednesday. Modest Geniustalk23:57, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Technically the article is ready, and it would be nice for us once to have a link up for something before it is 36 hours old. We've got consensus that Netanyahu's current coalition has won. Given the uncontested results, the staleness of the current listings, the fact that the article is technically updated, and the lack of necessity to wait for ever single statistic to be confirmed, we don't need to lag on this. μηδείς (talk) 01:38, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Of course it's not ready. We don't know who won yet. The page says estimates are based on exit polls. There are no officially reported resultss. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:40, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well, again, technically, the article is ready when it has been updated, which it has been as of the nomination. I am sure you understand that point. My real underlying concern is that we have an admin post this as soon as we get a one-sentence update that the Netanyahu coalition has officially won. Not a day's delay due to lack of attention, or waiting for even more of an update than just the declaration of a winner. We shouldn't be waiting on the filling in of statistics before we post this. μηδείς (talk) 01:47, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support posting now - I heard the results announced yesterday on the radio. The article appears updated enough for a blurb to be posted. Do it now, please. Jusdafax09:45, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The finance ministers of the European Union are ready to give their needed approval to those countries within the EU that want to establish a Tobin tax, that is, a tax in financial transactions. (Reuters)
In Brazil, a helicopter crashes in São Paulo's north zone, leaving one pilot dead and four more people injured. (IG News)
Five people are killed in an explosion at a healer's home in Chitungwiza, Zimbabwe, causing hundreds to flee and nearby building damage. (Reuters via IOL)
An Irishman, who pleads guilty in court to repeatedly raping his daughter as a child, is released on bail with a suspended sentence. His daughter, who says she was raped "as frequently as having dinner", is said to be devastated. (Irish Independent)(Irish Examiner)
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Weak Oppose, his significance in his field doesn't appear to be quite up to scratch for RD. Still, a colorful character nonetheless (By the way, he passed away on the 21st).--Kawaii-Soft (talk) 13:30, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. A 'colourful character' isn't really enough. No BAFTAs, no Academy Awards. I would say that Death Wish was a somewhat notable film but otherwise not particularly a notable career.--Johnsemlak (talk) 14:24, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder whether that's really the right yardstick to apply, though. It seems a bit like assessing Jeremy Clarkson as just a motoring journalist, or Don King as just a boxing promoter. Winner is not some long-ago great that nobody's really thought about for years. His real talent, rather than his film directing, was in creating a larger-than-life persona and keeping it in the public eye really right up until a fortnight before he died. That's why he is being remembered so widely, and what the Sunday Times thought it was worth paying a fortune for his columns for. Jheald (talk) 15:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Not to be snarky, and with no disrespect toward you or your nomination, but using that yardstick, we'd include Gilbert Gottfried, Snooki, and Carrot Top in RD. The questions are notability and impact, and the answers are that he didn't have enough of them. Oppose -- Mike(Kicking222)17:28, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Having an effective PR team is not one of our death criteria. Not among the most important film directors (or food critics, or insurance salesmen) of his generation. Kevin McE (talk) 18:43, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Was not a leading figure in cinema; to a large extent his contemporary fame rests upon a catch phrase in a series of TV adverts. Not significant enough in my opinion. Modest Geniustalk21:55, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Given his standing in his field (one real movie of note) he hardly compares to dear abby. Can't speak for TV adverts, maybe someone could give a youtube link? μηδείς (talk) 22:44, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - His TV adverts are hardly sufficient claim to fame on their own. His movies, while noteworthy, do not make him a leader in his field. He was quite a polymath, but not so outstandingly so that I think we need to include him here. AlexTiefling (talk) 23:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support for ticker Has a varied and well regarded back catalogue, very well regarded career as (an often utterly self-obsessed) restaurant critic, and is a cultural touchstone for many doktorbwordsdeeds14:54, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Could you clarify more specifically what changes you are recommending? (Also, the item is already at the top of ITN, so I don't know what you mean by "bump"). SpencerT♦C02:34, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Reactions elicited and th e Algerian govt has announced the end of operations with some 23-odd hostages dead (foreign). Key being the operations ver (and similarly to the ]]26/11]] incident)Lihaas (talk) 01:33, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Unless there are demonstrations internationally that are notable in themselves, we don't generally post public reactions to events that occur, only the events themselves. SpencerT♦C09:03, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Rather than just saying that somebody else should write a new blurb, writing one so it is ready to post would be much more useful to the posting admin :). Thue (talk) 06:18, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The death toll has risen to at least 48 hostages killed during a four-day siege at a gas plant, raising the number of militants and their captives killed to at least 80. Algerian troops had found the bodies of 25 hostages at the complex on Sunday. (Reuters)(BBC)
Indian Cabinet Committee on Political Affairs on Thursday decided to raise the cap on subsidised liquefied petroleum gas to nine cylinders per household in a year from existing six. (The Hindu)
A NASA spacecraft, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, is providing new evidence of a wet underground environment on Mars that adds to an increasingly complex picture of the Red Planet's early evolution. (NASA)
In basketball, the owners of the NBA's Sacramento Kings reportedly reach an agreement to sell a controlling stake in the team to a Seattle-based group, fueling speculation that the team will move to Seattle. (ESPN)
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Oppose We knew when he was elected that he'd be sworn in on Jan 20. Bzweebl is right that this wouldn't be considered for any other nation. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:57, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral we don't normally post these, but it is on the front page of bbc.co.uk, and that seems to be a highly important benchmark these days. --IP98 (talk) 19:42, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Neutral on the actual story but it's probably overkill to have the first one on TFA and the second on ITN so quickly. GRAPPLEX19:47, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
support as its all thats in the news regardless are personal opinions. Plus we posted australia's elecion thirce, and canada/uk twice. Obama's actual election was in Dec too.Lihaas (talk) 01:36, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The Algerian army stages a final assault on a gas facility near the town of In Aménas, where militants took an unknown number of foreign workers hostage on January 16. Totally at least 23 hostages and 32 terrorists were killed for the four days of crisis. (BBC)(CNN)(Reuters)
Another 100 flights are cancelled at Europe's busiest airport, Heathrow, with some passengers forced to spend the night sleeping on the terminal floor. (BBC)
Four climbers are killed by an avalanche in Glen Coe in the Scottish Highlands while descending the south side of Bidean nam Bian. A fifth member of the party is airlifted to hospital with serious injuries, while a sixth escapes unharmed. (BBC)
Article:Ahmed Dogan (talk·history·tag) Blurb: An assailant identified as Oktai Enimehmedov attempts to assassinate opposition leader Ahmed Dogan at a party congress. (Post) News source(s):BBC Credits:
Weak support per precedent, the Gabrielle Giffords shooting was posted and she wasn't even the leader of her party in her legislative body as this man is. I'd support it more if he had actually been wounded, but as a matter of fairness it should be posted. 331dot (talk) 12:31, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've changed my mind to weak oppose. This man seems to have been the only one in danger, unlike the Giffords shooting where many were wounded and others killed. 331dot (talk) 12:36, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose. We don't usually post changes to the organizational structure of political parties. When he's prime minister, we'll deal with it then. --Jayron3206:20, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Very Strong Opposition The incumbent minister of India was not the Vice-President of the INC. The suggestion by the nominator that he is likely to be the Prime Ministerial candidate of the INC or the UPA should be treated as the personal opinion of the nominator. Prime Ministers in India can be definitely defined only after the results of the Union elections are announced and after the alliances are forged. Besides this organizational changes are not considered as ITN candidates.Regards, theTigerKing06:53, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Interesting, but not suitable for ITN as the position is not important enough. The fact that he might be a candidate for PM doesn't make it important enough. If and when he is elected PM, that will get mentioned. 331dot (talk) 10:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Pile on Oppose. To be fair, this did make very big news in India, and CNN is running an analysis article on its main page. But even when we step aside from the politics, this is not ITN-worthy by a long shot. MikeLynch (talk) 16:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Support update to blurb, universally considered one of the greatest baseball players of all-time, one of the most beloved figures in American sports, front page news on practically every American news website, which is unheard of for any athlete, top story in the New York Times [11], second top story in CNN [12] who named him "one of its greatest, most dignified ambassadors" in baseball five page obituary from the associated press, more reactions should be coming tomorrow, as this news broke during the evening. It is safe to say he was the American sports equivalent to Donald Bradman. Oh and its a FA to boot. Secretaccount06:50, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Instead of updating to a full blurb, what about nominating if for TFA instead? It has not yet appeared on the Main page. --Tone20:04, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Probably agree with Tone, TFA is a better place to go, although it is desirable to feature FA content on ITN. However, I wouldn't quite say Musial is the US equivalent of Donald Bradman. While these apples to oranges comparisons are always complicated, Musial wasn't the very best at his sport, merely one of the very best. (note, I'm a St. Louis Cardinals fan). Among living MLB players the closest equivalent would probably be Willy Mays or Hank Aaron. Also, my feeling is that the RD ticker was created in part to allow figures like Musial who are familiar to only part of the Wikipedia audience to be posted with less fuss; a nomination for a full blurb in the past would have likely resulted in a bitter debate.--Johnsemlak (talk) 02:56, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Oppose I actually considered nominating when I heard the news. In the end I was not convinced he passed ITN/DC #2. 17 years as an MLB manager. Hall of Fame is too inclusive to give every inductee a pass. --IP98 (talk) 01:51, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
An important figure, but not a very important figure. He is far from one of the top 10 most important people in his sport, and that's saying a lot, since a top 10 figure in a comparably popular sport like rugby might not pass RD, though I have no precedent for that. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 02:30, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
17 years, 1 world series, radio show, a book. Basically a run of the mill baseball manager. He wasn't a drugged up loser, but he wasn't very important either. --IP98 (talk) 02:32, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Yeah, a managing career of one World Series win isn't enough really. Unlike Musial above, Weaver isn't one of the all time greats. He did have a good computer game named after him though.--Johnsemlak (talk) 02:45, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Very important manager, one of the great "characters" of the game, still not of the same league as Stan the Man above, who until he died was the greatest living baseball player; and I'm not sure you'd get much debate on that. Weaver was well known, but not "greatest at what he did" territory. --Jayron3206:22, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Weaver was one of the greatest masterminds in regards to pitching, which is the main reason why he was elected to the Hall of Fame relatively fast, otherwise not among the all-time greatest managers, even with those who are still living (Cox, Torre, and a few others). OpposeSecretaccount06:54, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Wikipedia is not an obituary service. Not significant or important enough a person for the front page (as, no doubt, will be the conclusion upon most of us editors when we pass on too) doktorbwordsdeeds07:34, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It does need work. From reading the lead, I'm not sure what this competition is. I presume some sort of car race, but what kind of car? What's the competition exactly? – Muboshgu (talk) 01:58, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I shouldn't have to click through to a second page just to figure out what the highlighted page is about. The term "rally raid" is still not used in the article anywhere, so I oppose – Muboshgu (talk) 18:16, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose and request to remove from ITN/R No offence, I do not get how this managed to make it into ITN/R ever. I have never seen this ever mentioned in the news, none in the history of the event, if it ever appears, it only get a tiny snippets, literally like college football. Only newsworthy to a small minority of motorsport enthusiasts. Donnie Park (talk) 04:04, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
my nomination is based on what I observed, events that were more deserving that was refused nomination, example the FIFA Club World Cup, which a month ago was heavily opposed, stating that it was insignificant when according an article in the Evening Standard on the 17th December, it stated that it may not be important to people in Europe but it is in South America and ask South Americans and Africans public. Donnie Park (talk) 04:17, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's a top tier tournament in an international motorsport classification. WP:IDONTLIKEIT is not an argument, nor is WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. We post plenty of football, I'm sorry that we didn't post <<insert your favorite event here>> didn't get posted. --IP98 (talk) 12:43, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Being a top level tournament in one classification of a sport is not a pass to main page prominence. We didn't post Larysa Solovyova retaining her women's -63kg powerlifting title in Aguadilla last year. There is no call for your sarcastic closing comment. Kevin McE (talk) 13:03, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It was a direct response to Donnie Parks remarks. To be clear, I don't care about the Dakar Rally, but it's certainly more broad in scope than "women's -63kg powerlifting". --IP98 (talk) 13:11, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Donnie's comment was that this is not significant enough, not that he didn't like it. I would agree that it is of greater scope than the womens -63kg powerlifting, but your comment was not predicated on scope, but on being top level in a classification of a sport. Kevin McE (talk) 13:40, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We're way OT here but Donnie specifically linked to the 2012 FIFA Club World Cup as a "prime example". Regarding the tier, in this case it's "rally racing", not, for example "mens age 35-42 closed top 4wd rally raid". --IP98 (talk) 13:49, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We probably ought to stop, but the top level of competition in rallying is the World Championship. This is only the top level if you chose to focus on one specific sub-category of rallying, the rally raid (power lifting rather than other forms of weightlifting in my example), but then choose to be selective among that subcategory (cars rather than bikes, quads or trucks in your text, -63 kg women in mine). Kevin McE (talk) 14:07, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree with Donnie Park that this event seems to be a niche event that is of interest to a very small number of enthusiasts. I've supported it in the past but I believe it wasn't posted last year, plus the article has several issues.--Johnsemlak (talk) 05:22, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, and oppose the assumption that that the recurrence of the event is generally considered important enough to post on WP:ITN on the basis of many of the above comments.Kevin McE (talk) 13:10, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, too many insignificant events are, that's the problem. If you go to the talk page, you'll see a link discussing whether to remove Dakar Rally from ITNR doktorbwordsdeeds17:54, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support I am surprised there is opposition to this. I am against ITNR as such, but this race is historically notable and a record has been set. μηδείς (talk) 04:22, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
CommentSupport RD I would support this if it is picked up by any major news outlet(s) outside of Japan. At least Google News can't find any at the time being. --hydrox (talk) 13:15, 19 January 2013 (UTC) ed: picked up by the Washington Post. --hydrox (talk) 01:01, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support for full blurb. Even if sumo is not a very international sport, he was arguably the most successful sumo player in the modern era (sort of what Pele is for football). Nergaal (talk) 22:44, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
RD support, really worried that we are still so far away from an agreed and publicised consensus on who might get a death blurb in the RD era that this can be seriously suggested for a blurb. Kevin McE (talk) 09:53, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A large explosion rocks Aleppo, Syria, causing several casualties. Syria TV says that it was a rocket launched by "terrorists". Syrian rebels state that it was a Syrian Air Force jet causing havoc in the city. (Reuters)(The Hindu)
French journalist Yves Debay is killed by a Syrian sniper while he was covering clashed between Syrian forces and rebels. In a separate incident, Al Jazeera reporter Mohamed al-Horani is killed by a Syrian sniper while covering clashes in Busra al-Harir. (CNN)
Lottery winner Urooj Kahn's body is exhumed after investigators concluded he was poisoned by cyanide. (Chicago Tribune)
An unknown assailant throws acid in the face of Sergei Filin, who is the artistic director of the Bolshoi Theatre, leaving him partially blind. The attack is attributed to the current power struggle for the famed Russian opera house. (BBC)(AP)(Reuters)
Before we decide, do you have any links to prominent news sources, so we can judge how prominently this is In The News? --Jayron3214:42, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Is there any way to compare this with other protests in Pakistan? We posted the Catalonia protests, but those were widely viewed as record-sized protests, while the press in this case is reporting 40,000 people, if I read the article right. μηδείς (talk) 03:03, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I must weak oppose until there is evidence this event is being covered by international media in some form; discussions in the last few weeks have shown me that is an important consideration. 331dot (talk) 10:16, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Opposed due to update the long march article doesn't have enough sources for the amount of prose. Specifically the reactions section is largely unsourced. Ul-Qadri's article is better, but the long march section doesn't cover enough of the event to carry it through to the MP. Agree this is a fairly major development. --IP98 (talk) 12:43, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
EVERY square inch of the page is sourced and the source is profvided. So does hat mean yu support or have another reason to oppose?
I count two inline sources in the entire reactions section. There are two whole huge paragraphs totally unsourced. There are direct quotes from government officials with no sources. I added some fact tags to help. --IP98 (talk) 01:12, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
EVERYTHING is sourced, i know, i added i. Itsoverref-fin, i feel, to ad d same ref without an intermediate diff references. The section ref includes all those quotes. You can read it.Lihaas (talk) 04:03, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The Algerian Army assaults the complex with helicopter gunships, reportedly killing 15 kidnappers and as many as 34 hostages. According to local sources, at least 7 hostages remain alive and in captivity. (Al Jazeera)
Algerian news agency ANP reports that during the Algerian Army assault 600 hostages were freed. Terrorists claim that they killed 35 hostages during the battle and that 15 terrorists were killed. (USA Today)
The number of French forces in the country rises to 1,400, more than half of the planned 2,500 strong force, as its troops continue to fight insurgents in Konna and Diabaly. Chad prepares to send the first 200 troops of a 2000-strong force to assist in the military operations as part of a regional mission. The European Union votes to send 450 to 500 "non-combat" troops to Mali, half of them are trainers. (Al Jazeera)
Two car bombs explode in the city of Dujail, Iraq, leaving at least 7 dead and 25 wounded. (Xinhua)
A bomb detonated on a bus carrying pilgrims in Iraq. In a separate incident a roadside bomb detonated and injures two pilgrims walking to Hussein ibn Ali. Another bomb detonated at a bus stop killing 7 people and wounding 28. Also a civilian vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb leaving 2 dead. In total 33 people were killed in one of the most violent days this month. (AP via USA Today)
Militants belonging to Somali group al-Shabaab announce they have executed the Frenchintelligence agent who was the target of the unsuccessful French rescue attempt on January 11. French officials believe the hostage was killed during the mission itself, and the group is using the incident to manipulate the media. (Al Jazeera)
Support Only RD- She's definitely well known within the English-speaking world, but her article isn't very impressive, and she wasn't influential for a full blurb regardless. Bzweebl (talk • contribs) 20:59, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD or full blurb, per Susan, probably one of the most influential women journalists in history, clearly meets criteria #2 of deaths. Secretaccount21:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Question: If we do post this, what name should we use? Pauline Friedman is her birth name, but is a redirect to her married name "Pauline Phillips". However, per WP:COMMONNAME, she is universally more recognized by her nom de plume "Abigail Van Buren". I suspect almost no reader would recognize either of the Pauline names, but many would recognize Abigail Van Buren instantly. I think, if we do post this in the RD ticker, it should be under Abigail Van Buren. After all, if Martin Sheen died, we wouldn't post it as "Ramón Antonio Gerardo Estévez", even though he's never legally changed his name to Martin Sheen. What does everyone else think? --Jayron3221:13, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The ticker isn't super crowded, and the two Jan 11 items will likely expire off soon, I'm ok with an "aka" either "Dear Abby" or "Abigail Van Buren". Dear Abby is shorter.... --IP98 (talk) 21:28, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
On the contrary, the ticker has two items already, and we usually only put 3 names on it. Having a legal name and a pen name at the same time would make it too long. I think we should just post it as Abigail Van Buren and do it that way. --Jayron3221:46, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nearly every news source I can find calls her Pauline Phillips in the title. On the other hand Dear Abby gets a lot more hits. My feeling is that as an encyclopedia we should use her accurate name, so I'd say Pauline Phillips. I don't think Abigal Van Buran is really as well known as 'Dear Abby' and 'Dear Abby' is way too unencyclopedic. We could solve this by moving to a full blurb but my feeling, and it consensus so far agrees, that this is an RD ticker item. So let's stick to Pauline Phillips and let readers learn her pseudonyms in the article.--Johnsemlak (talk) 22:52, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Name We wouldn't say Reginald Dwight passed away. We should use the name--pen name or columnist--that she's known by. (Opposed, BTW) μηδείς (talk) 22:52, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's comments: Significant development, a whole bunch of national aviation regulators have grounded the worldwide fleet of Boeing 787s, including Japan, Europe, India, China, and the U.S. Covered in major news sources around the world. As a nice bonus, there's a free pic to use as well. --Jayron3216:24, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support the concept of posting this; covered worldwide, involves a new aircraft used worldwide, but suggest a shorter blurb, perhaps simply by dropping the first part of the proposed one. 331dot (talk) 16:32, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Oppose at this time. In the US this affects 6 planes (only United had them), and I think the number worldwide is rather small since they've only started rolling the 787's out. It would be different if it were, say, the 737's which are more widely used and would be in the thousands and would have major effects on the airline industry. This at this point is effectively just a bad business break for Boeing. Now, if down the road, FAA and others say "sorry, we're not going to allow the 787's to fly again period", which would be a huge economic impact on Boeing which has invested a lot in this, that would be different. Right now, its a standard regulatory thing that's a small impact to anyone outside of Boeing. --MASEM (t) 16:33, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Noting a change from outright Oppose to Weak Oppose; WaltCip's pointer of the improved article is a factor towards including in ITN, though I still stand by the fact that the 787 fleet is tiny relative to worldwide aircraft fleet sizes, with the only major impact on Boeing and a few airlines. --MASEM (t) 17:10, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support - The number of 787's in circulation should not be a factor; it's still the latest iteration in the Boeing line, and the entire fleet being grounded would certainly be significant international news in the topic of interest. Aerospace news (save for crashes) seems to be fairly underrepresented on ITN. Also, the Boeing 787 article has been significantly updated as a result of the news, which makes it a prime candidate for being posted on the front page.--WaltCip (talk) 17:08, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support as expected, several other national aviation authorities issued grounding orders following the FAA. It's a big deal when a top tier manufacturer has such a significant event with such a highly engineered piece of equipment. By comparison, the Boeing_737_rudder_issues which caused multiple aircraft crashes did not result in a grounding. --IP98 (talk) 17:25, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support Boeing calls it the most technologically advanced aircraft on the planet and also for all the reasons mentioned above. But the blurb is clumsy. An alternative[1]:Boeing787 Dreamliner aircrafts are grounded worldwide following the risks of battery fires.Regards, theTigerKing19:22, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support universal grounding of newest commercial airliner, with multiple problems on aircraft of differing ages. A serious issue, not just the batteries, but the cracked cockpit glass, the failed brakes etc., affecting aircraft one month or one year old. Multiple failures on multiple aircraft of varying flying hours. A truly notable failure for any new aircraft. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:05, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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