Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marth (Fire Emblem)

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The result was merge‎ to Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 11:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marth (Fire Emblem)

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Trying to do some digging to find discussion of him as a character for notability, and at most I've only found scraps. He's a *known* character in terms of Smash and Fire Emblem, but in terms of actual commentary there's nothing I was able to find. Scholar itself also offered no useful results. WP:BEFORE just gives all indications that this is another Smash Bros. character in a long line of them with little said. Kung Fu Man (talk) 15:16, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Video games. Kung Fu Man (talk) 15:16, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - currently looking for sources. Seems like I've seen sources over the year about how his presence in Smash Bros helped inspire Nintendo to localize more Fire Emblem games into English language releases. So far, I've only got https://gamerant.com/fire-emblem-marths-past/ and https://www.thegamer.com/fire-emblem-engage-who-is-marth-backstory-explained/ which are pretty detailed usable sources, though usually not considered great indicators of notability on their own... Sergecross73 msg me 15:32, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light. He may have more mentions in Japanese, but in English he is rarely mentioned thanks to his games going unlocalized and the remakes being unpopular enough that he is mainly known for a game that isn't even a Fire Emblem one. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:21, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear, what he's known for, and what region the sources come from, are irrelevant. All we need to find out is the WP:GNG is met and if there's any convincing WP:MERGEREASONs. Sergecross73 msg me 21:45, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - It could be worth checking the Japanese version of the article I'm sure they would have at least something. I did also find this which could be useful from a more fan focus perspective (Siliconera). Don't know how useful it can be, but hey it was worth a shot. Captain Galaxy 14:05, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've just checked, and the Japanese article has even less Reception than this version of the article. I agree it may be worth checking Japanese sources, but the article in question lacks them. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 16:04, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Though I haven't looked at any any translations yet, this scholar source mentions Marth quite a few times. MoonJet (talk) 15:47, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light for now. I am honestly surprised about how little there is for Marth, and I'd genuinely love to see this guy stay, but there isn't enough here for a split for now. A Legacy subsection with Marth, akin to EarthBound and Ness could be good to add given Marth has been arguably the most enduring part of that game. Regardless, if sources are found properly, ping me and I'll consider changing my vote given I'd love to have this article stay.

As for the two sources acknowledged by CaptainGalaxy and MoonJet, they don't really help. The Siliconera source is basically just a popularity poll ranking, which barely contributes to notability, while the Scholar source is an overview of the Fire Emblem series, and the only mentions of Marth are in reference to the plots and appearances of the character in the games. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 16:09, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to the game or a character list. There isn't enough here for WP:SIGCOV. This is likely a WP:NOPAGE situation, where we could have a summary paragraph of reception about all of the characters. Particularly for sources that are about the characters, with no one in particular. Shooterwalker (talk) 17:41, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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