Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elephant & Castle fire

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The result was redirect to Elephant & Castle railway station. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:34, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elephant & Castle fire

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Accidental fire which just so happened to be near a train station, no deaths, minor disruptions to travel. Basically the definition of WP:NOTNEWS. Most everything currently in the article can be put into the Elephant & Castle railway station article. Mlb96 (talk) 05:43, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or redirect to the station article. Textbook example of why rushing to create articles for events is usually a bad idea (unless the longer lasting impact is immediately obvious of course). Fram (talk) 07:16, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as I said elsewhere, a small fire in a big city. No lasting impact = no persistent coverage in reliable sources as required by WP:NEVENT ——Serial 08:05, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete for the reasons stated above. Also WP:UNDUE, WP:RECENTISM, WP:NOTNEWS, etc. -- Alarics (talk) 09:01, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 08:49, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 08:49, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Minor local news story with no encyclopaedic value. Fails WP:NOTNEWS and all the sources are WP:ROUTINE reporting with no serious analysis. I don't think any of this material justifies coverage in the station article either, so there's nothing worth merging. Modest Genius ^talk 12:14, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Elephant & Castle railway station#2021 fire. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 17:43, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Elephant & Castle railway station#2021 fire. It's not notable enough for a separate article, but redirects are cheap.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 19:42, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unfortunately, despite the effort. The subject is not not newsworthy. Temporary closure of the mainline and tube stations are not notable either so the mentions there are not worth keeping either.--DavidCane (talk) 19:56, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to the section of the main article. I'm not sure everything there is encyclopaedic but some mention of the event at that article is definitely DUE. There is nothing in this article worthwhile merging, but redirects are cheap and it is the only fire in Elephant & Castle that approaches encyclopaedic notability (it isn't notable enough for an article, but every other event that could be referred to with this name is even less notable). Thryduulf (talk) 22:42, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - I do not think the event is notable enough to have its own article, but it is clearly a significant event in the history of Elephant & Castle railway station and as it is covered in appropriate depth there, then a redirect seems the best option, especially as Elephant & Castle fire is something someone could well search for. Dunarc (talk) 22:57, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Maybe could be included in List of Disasters at Railway Stations or some article like that, but it’s own article, no. Pyramids09 (talk) 23:21, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Elephant & Castle railway station#2021 fire. Plausible search term, and the event itself in covered in sufficient depth at the target. It is unlikely that the event will get sufficient WP:INDEPTH WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE to warrant a separate article. TompaDompa (talk) 05:58, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Elephant & Castle railway station#2021 fire. RoanokeVirginia (talk) 10:40, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect We should redirect it to Elephant & Castle railway station#2021 fire as said by DatGuy and other Wikipedians. D Eaketts (talk) 16:19, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: (no redirect): No need for it as a search term as in many ways little differ than occur frequently. As a side not UNDUE at target and probably just one of many incidents at/near the station if that station was researched fully. Djm-leighpark (talk) 21:43, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect – I've lived in London for 20 years, and this was among the biggest fires I've seen here. It's notable, perhaps not enough for a full article, but should definitely have a redirect. Wjfox2005 (talk) 08:57, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Elephant & Castle railway station, having the important info about the fire on there. Jim Michael (talk) 11:26, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect I agree with the other users above and that the content can fit in the station's article instead. -boldblazer (talk) 22:46, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Elephant & Castle railway station#2021 fire per the reasons above. Anonymous 7481 (talk) 01:56, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.