Disputatio Formulae:Scintu/Tabularium 2

"Scin tu...?" iam electa

Octobre 2009

...Henricum IV Franciae regem antea regem Navarrae fuisse?

... Callidium violaceum Finnice "sacerdoticidam" (papintappaja) publice appellari? Unde hoc nomen infestum venerit nescimus. Cognovimus quidem teredines permultis annis in tignis aedium crepare et strepere, quo factum esse videtur, ut sacerdotes strepitu continuo defatigati paullatim conficerentur. Credat qui vult.

Novembre 2009

...aequationes Lorentzianas et aequationes Maxwellianas basem physicae electromagneticae esse?

...contra impeta Argentinae Margaritam Thatcher Malvinas Insulas defendisse?

Decembre 2009

...caesarem Gordianum III membrum gentis Antoniae fuisse? Is sucessor naturalis serus Antonii triumviris fuit.

...De Margarita Pretiosa unus ex libris sanctis Ecclesiae Iesu Christi Sanctorum in Novissimis Diebus esse?

...lucem partem visibilem energiae electromagneticae esse?

...ob res novas Boris Ieltsin Unionem Sovieticam exarmatam fuisse?

Ianuario 2010

...vinum novum potionem inter mustum et vinum esse?

...contra inclinationes liberales conservapediam modu vicipaediae creata esse?

...Mediam etiam post ipsius imperium eversum satrapiam clarissimam Imperii Persici fuisse, ibique sedem regalem fuisse?

...apud Graecos et Romanos rhinocerotem Indicum cum unicorne confusum esse?

Februario 2010

..claram sententiam Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam Catonis Censoris esse?

...esse permultos planetas extrasolares, et primum anno 1995 inventum esse?

...urbem Coloniam Agrippinam notissimam esse mense februario ob Carnelevarium Rhenanum?

...Mormonibus Kolob esse stellam valde prope Dei sedem?

Iunio 2010

...sedecim casus grammaticos esse linguae Vasconicae?

...secundum commentaria Vitruvii, epistylium est trias architectonica aedificorum columnatorum?

Novembre 2010

...anno 1868 primum textum in lingua Protoindoeuropaea (Fabula Schleicheri) scriptum esse?

...gentem Lagidam seu Ptolemaicam Aegyptum rexisse, Alexandro defuncto?

"Scin tu...?" propositae

...Deianiram uxorem fuisse tertiam et ultimam Herculis, et ipsam Herculem necavisse?

..., Iove imperante, Saturnum Latium vetus rexisse?

...anno 1868 primum textum in lingua Protoindoeuropaea (Fabula Schleicheri) scriptum esse?

...gentem Lagidam seu Ptolemaicam Aegyptum rexisse, Alexandro defuncto?

...sedecim casus grammaticos esse linguae Vasconicae?

...secundum commentaria Vitruvii, epistylium est trias architectonica aedificorum columnatorum?

...Henricum IV Franciae regem antea regem Navarrae fuisse?

... Callidium violaceum Finnice "sacerdoticidam" (papintappaja) publice appellari? Unde hoc nomen infestum venerit nescimus. Cognovimus quidem teredines permultis annis in tignis aedium crepare et strepere, quo factum esse videtur, ut sacerdotes strepitu continuo defatigati paullatim conficerentur. Credat qui vult.

...aequationes Lorentzianas et aequationes Maxwellianas basem physicae electromagneticae esse?

...contra impeta Argentinae Margaritam Thatcher Malvinas Insulas defendisse?

...caesarem Gordianum III membrum gentis Antoniae fuisse? Is sucessor naturalis serus Antonii triumviris fuit.

...De Margarita Pretiosa unus ex libris sanctis Ecclesiae Iesu Christi Sanctorum in Novissimis Diebus esse?

...lucem pertem visibilem energiae esse?

Quid pertem supra significaret?--Rafaelgarcia 01:19, 31 Decembris 2009 (UTC)

pertem=partem. Correxi supra.--Rafaelgarcia 19:41, 31 Decembris 2009 (UTC)

...ob res novas Boris Ieltsin Unionem Sovieticam exarmatam fuisse?

...vinum novum potionem inter mustum et vinum esse?

...contra inclinationes liberales conservapediam modu vicipaedia creata esse?

...Mediam etiam post ipsius imperium eversum satrapiam clarissimam Imperii Persici fuisse, ibique sedem regalem fuisse?

...apud Graecos et Romanos rhinocerotem Indicum cum unicorne confusum esse?

..claram sententiam Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam Catonis Censoris esse?

...esse permultos planetas extrasolares, et primum anno 1995 inventum esse?

...Kolob est stella valde prope Dei sedem.

...Mormonibus stellam Kolobem proximissimam ad Deum esse?

...Mormonibus Kolob esse stellam valde prope Dei sedem?

...Moroni Angelum esse Dei nuntium qui prophetae Mormonum Iosepho Smith tabulas aureas in quibus Librum Mormoni scriptus esset?

nuntia

Maybe we can include some News items too...--Rafaelgarcia 19:02, 9 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

undas telephonorum gestabilium credi leti esse causam apibus multis in CFA et Europa?

The only problem I see with this, Rafael, is that we will need to cite our information. Would you have a references section on the main page? Or how else would you get around this?

--Ioshus ^(disp) 22:35, 11 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

Putting references on the front page might get to be a bit much... It would be best if one of the articles linked to in the question text provided the reference to an external news article originating the news datum. In this case the bee article can provide the necessary journalistic reference.--Rafaelgarcia 22:49, 11 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

So then, the only thing is, in practice, we will need to 1) scour the news for items on which we have a page; or 2) be prodigious in editing/citing articles about which we would like to have news items. I say "in practice" because in theory this is easy, but I hope that it will work out. The current shape of our nuntii/nuntia is not over encouraging to me.--Ioshus ^(disp) 23:19, 11 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that has to be our rule: references cited on the page that is linked from the scintu or nuntium. At least if there can be any controversy. I don't feel the need to justify the statement that the Commonwealth succeeded the British Empire, nor that Bush went to Albania. He did go, didn't he? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 09:05, 12 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

If its a current event I guess it isn't as important to give a citation unless the reference would happen to an external Latini Nuntii like Ephemerus--Rafaelgarcia 00:23, 14 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

Yes, good point. Always useful to link to those if possible. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:08, 14 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

I am now taking up this idea (I forgot at first that Rafael had suggested it so long ago). A reference is required as a general rule, so what I propose to do (since I don't usually have time to write a page on the new event) is to include a link to an online news source. Ephemeris will be a good choice if it includes the item, but, otherwise, a news source in a modern language.

I am adding each item permanently to Formula:Nuntii, meaning that it will appear in sequence in Vicipaedia:Nuntii ("Novissima") and on the Vicipaedia:Porta communis. Additionally I am including each latest item in Formula:Aliquidnovi, meaning that each will appear briefly on the Vicipaedia:Pagina prima. How long I can keep this up I don't know yet ... Please add news items to Formula:Nuntii, anyone who wants to, and they will remain there. If it is "latest news", add it also in Formula:Aliquidnovi: my idea is that there will be rapid turnover in items placed there. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 19:45, 7 Ianuarii 2013 (UTC)

ratio

What is the purpose of this page:

1. Is it to feature interesting content from articles at Vicipaedia?
2. Is it to feature newly created articles, such as its counterparts at other language Wikipedias?

That being asked, who is going to be the head of this project? I'm guessing Xaverius? I think we have a Specialis:Newpages where we can go for new pages. Maybe this should happen on a weekly basis? Bi-weekly? m

If we are to include news items, maybe a sub header?

Thoughts?

--Ioshus ^(disp) 19:08, 9 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking this section to hold interesting pages of our Vicipaedia, but of course, it is also sensible to include new pages created. However, I was intending these to be at least with latinitas +1, I wouldn't like to make a link from the front page to a maxcorrigenda. On the other hand, this would be a way of drawing atention to this pages so they may be improved (¿?).--Xaverius 21:21, 9 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

My thinking is that the reason is both 1 and 2 but primarily 1. Showing a question pertaining to a current event every once in a while would add an interesting dimension to the Vicipaedia project and serves to draw attention to our Nuntia page.

In terms of deciding what to show and how often:

• Changing the questions once a month or twice a month would probably be manageable; given the smallness of the Vicipaedia our focus should primarily be on creating and revising pages not managing the Pagina Prima.
• Decisions on which question to show can be made by nomination and voting like with the Paginae Mensis. Criteria should include the quality of the page and how interesting the content is.

My 2 cents.--Rafaelgarcia 23:04, 9 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The main reason is 1, but a new page can also be worth being featured, so it is sometimes 2 as well. However, announcing new pages should be done in an extra section, because new pages can be poor sometimes. But we should have such a manually maintained list of new pages on our pagina prima. Maybe in the education section? --Rolandus 08:05, 10 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

I wonder whether voting for each item in turn will become too complicated. Maybe we just vote for Xaverius, keep on adding ideas, and hope he'll be willing to look after it for a while ;-) Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 20:46, 11 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

Would Xaverius be interested in taking on the responsibility for being the point man?--Rafaelgarcia 20:57, 11 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

I would be most glad to accept! I think that fortnight changes would work for the time being. However, I am a bit busy now with exams and my site report, which decreases my monthly average of contributions, although I will still be able to change this, let us say, every two sundays. I must say too that I will be excavating most of this summer in Toledo (strangely enough, the palace of the Visigothic kings) and Numancia, so I will have to hand this responsibility to someone else, or maybe share it while I am excavating.--Xaverius 21:07, 11 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

Sounds like fun. Thanks for volunteering to be our Scintu point man! I'm assuming no one will object.Rafaelgarcia 21:11, 11 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

Por fuerza, me voy a hacer un experto en las interrogativas directas con doble acusativo...--Xaverius 21:14, 11 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

Jajaja, Javi. Todos que encontran el doble accusativo lo aman! Gracias por ser jefe de "¿Sabías que...?"!--Ioshus ^(disp) 21:35, 11 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

Dear Xaverius, I took the liberty of editing the Sintu formula to correct a couple of grammar errors that Neander found on the Vamba page and to mimick his edit of the ne clause on the page. I hope you don't mind. --Rafaelgarcia 04:11, 12 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

Of course I do not mind, after all, that's what we are here for, aren't we? I have hust now changed the latinitas from non censa to +1--Xaverius 08:32, 12 Iunii 2007 (UTC)

Weekly?

There are a lot of suggestions above and if we only have two on our pagina prima each month, they may start building up. Is it too forward to suggest that we have a weekly (or maybe bimonthly) scin tu section? Harrissimo.

Actually, I change them every fortnight...--Xaverius 17:54, 8 Novembris 2007 (UTC)

Oh! Fair enough then... Harrissimo.

Imagines

Please can we start adding images to scin tu? like some of the other wikipedias? Harrissimo 21:10, 3 Februarii 2008 (UTC).

Certainly... I'll try to add one image relating to one of the sentences... although we're suffering from a lack of those lately... I'm sorry, it is those bloody finals of mine :(--Xaverius 18:59, 4 Februarii 2008 (UTC)

Atomos

Mea sententia mutandum est ..iam aevo Antiquo Democritum Atomos invenire quas ab Isidoro descriptae esse? ad ..iam aevo Antiquo Atomos a Democrito inventas Isidoruum descripsisse? quod Anglice significaret "already in the middle age Atoms discovered by Democritus had been described by Isodorus."--Rafaelgarcia 16:51, 16 Octobris 2007 (UTC)

B-A-C-H (Augusto)

Quid significat B? ? Potestne hoc signum recte patefieri computatris omnibus prater meum? Difficilis res est translatu, nam neque (Anglice) B sharp neque B flat Romani noverant. Si res tamen ponatur in pagina prima, via est invenienda patefaciendi signa desiderata (crux duplex et b parvum)--91.34.187.83 14:47, 15 Augusti 2007 (UTC) (Scripsi ego, agnoscite --Iovis Fulmen 15:02, 15 Augusti 2007 (UTC))

"Potestne hoc signum recte patefieri computatris omnibus prater meum?" Sic, fortasse! Textum quem rescribi fuit: "Iohannem Sebastianum Bach potuisse signum suum B-A-C-H in compositiones inscribere, ut, Germana orthographia, B♭ scribebatur B, et B♮ H?" Ego ibi video "B [flat] scribebatur B, et B [natural] H"; tu, fortasse, aliam rem; alii quid vident? Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:12, 15 Augusti 2007 (UTC)

Ita, video symbola solita tantum . . . --Ioscius ^(disp) 15:29, 17 Augusti 2007 (UTC)

Tunc vitium machinae meae est. Gratias ago vobis.--Iovis Fulmen 18:41, 21 Augusti 2007 (UTC)

Kolob

Why doesn't it add? ...Kolob esse stellam valde prope Dei sedem. CTRlatin 07:53, 26 Novembris 2009 (UTC)

Because it is not here where you add the info to the template. This is just for proposals. In due time, when the section is renewed, your (corrected) comment will be added.--Xaverius 10:14, 26 Novembris 2009 (UTC)

Moroni Angelus

...Moroni Angelum esse Dei nuntium qui nostro propheta Iosepho Smith adfuerit et ei patefecerit tabulas aureas in quibus Librum Mormoni scriptus esset. CTRlatin 18:42, 27 Novembris 2009 (UTC)

Lingua Aegyptiaca Reformata

...Lingua Aegyptiaca Reformata est sermo antiquus tabularum aurearum in quibus Librum Mormoni scribebatur. CTRlatin 19:55, 27 Novembris 2009 (UTC)

De Margarita Pretiosa

...De Margarita Pretiosa esse librum sanctum Ecclesiae Iesu Christi Sanctorum in Novissimis Diebus CTRlatin 20:37, 27 Novembris 2009 (UTC)

primum animal vertebratum

... primum animal vertebratum fuisse piscem loricatum sine maxillis et ab eo cetera animalia vertebrata procedisse? --Alfonsoz (disputatio) 18:19, 15 Octobris 2012 (UTC)