Related to T234241.

Enabled on arwiki, bswiki, cawiki, cawikiquote, elwiki, frwiki, frwikiquote, frwikisource, frwikiversity, frwikivoyage, nowiki, orwiki, urwiki, viwikisource, wawiki, wawiktionary, zhwiki, zhwikisource, wikidatawiki, specieswiki, outreachwiki. So it would require a fair amount of coordination.

Occasion 1 and 2 can be merged — Users currently not using Flow would not have it listed Beta Features. For occasion 3, if I turn it off momentarily, I would fall into the 2nd category and thus cannot have it turned on again.

In the context of T346108: [EPIC] IP Masking: StructuredDiscussions (Flow)/LiquidThreads Community discussion, we need to revive this task.

The TL;DR is: we prefer to avoid a very costly adaptation of StructuredDiscussions to Temporary accounts, and we will remove SD from the wikis as a mid-term objective.

As a consequence, during these conversations, we encourage communities to be proactive, by archiving StructuredDiscusions pages and locking them. We have to be sure that no one can create a new SD board on their talk page.

The idea is:

• if I have SD activated on my talk page, the option to turn it off is visible in my Beta features
• if I don't have SD activated on my talk page, the option to turn it on is not visible in my Beta features

Change 980031 had a related patch set uploaded (by Sergio Gimeno; author: Sergio Gimeno):

[mediawiki/extensions/Flow@master] Beta preference: remove from beta features for disabled users

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/980031

As discussed with @Urbanecm_WMF, we will deploy this change on next week's train. I will announce it in Tech News.

Added.

T352565: Edit flow-talk-page-beta-feature-description to reflect the upcoming deprecation would be nice-to-have to complete this change.

In T248309#9399938, @Trizek-WMF wrote:

Added.

T352565: Edit flow-talk-page-beta-feature-description to reflect the upcoming deprecation would be nice-to-have to complete this change.

I added the translation update requested in T352565 to the same change so they rollout together, hope that makes sense.

Change 980031 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/Flow@master] Beta preference: remove from beta features for disabled users

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/980031

In T248309#9334909, @Trizek-WMF wrote:

In the context of T346108: [EPIC] IP Masking: StructuredDiscussions (Flow)/LiquidThreads Community discussion, we need to revive this task.

The TL;DR is: we prefer to avoid a very costly adaptation of StructuredDiscussions to Temporary accounts, and we will remove SD from the wikis as a mid-term objective.

As a consequence, during these conversations, we encourage communities to be proactive, by archiving StructuredDiscusions pages and locking them. We have to be sure that no one can create a new SD board on their talk page.

The idea is:

• if I have SD activated on my talk page, the option to turn it off is visible in my Beta features
• if I don't have SD activated on my talk page, the option to turn it on is not visible in my Beta features

@Trizek-WMF - the current behavior in beta is according to the specs:

• when a user disables Structured Discussion (Flow) option from Preferences, the option is removed from the list of beta features.
• users who never enabled Flow, the Structured Discussion (Flow) option is not present in the Preferences.
• new users won't have the Structured Discussion (Flow) option in the Preferences.

Checked on cawiki wmf.10 - works as expected. @Trizek-WMF - would be great if you can confirm that it works on a wiki in group 2 (e.g. frwiki wmf.10), especially since we have T353830: [wmf.10-group 0] Flow option not present in Preferences-Beta for users with active Flow boards .