The "nearby" function works properly when the locale of my Android phone is English, Russian, Polish or Spanish. If the locale is Hebrew, Czech or Catalan, I see the map, but I don't see any article markers.
It may be a bug in the app itself, but it's possible that the Wikipedias in these languages use nononstandard tagging.
| Subject | Repo | Branch | Lines +/- | |
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| Pull primary coordinates from Wikidata if none are present locally | mediawiki/extensions/GeoData | master | +209 -11 |
| Status | Subtype | Assigned | Task | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Resolved | None | T33805 Wikipedia Android App 1.1 tracking - current bugs | |||
| Open | None | T35704 GeoData should pull coordinates from Wikidata on sites with the Wikibase Client | |||
| Resolved | aude | T75482 [Story] Make Wikibase add coordinates to GeoData on wikidata.org | |||
| Open | None | T114092 Add tests for GeoData hooks handling | |||
| Resolved | aude | T115482 [Task] Enable GeoData extension on wikidata.org | |||
| Resolved | None | T116185 When running updateSearchIndexConfig.php for test.wikidata, the script chokes on the analyzers | |||
| Open | None | T110017 Use Wikidata's P17 statement for primary coordinates of an article |
I can't quote Amir's post giving w:en:Ora,_Israel as an example due to https://secure.phabricator.com/T6736
But anyway, it looks like the hewiki equivalent of that page is called "אורה"
enwiki API result: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=geosearch&gspage=Ora,_Israel&gsradius=1000 (a result)
hewiki API result: https://he.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=geosearch&gspage=%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%94&gsradius=1000 ("Page coordinates unknown")
So this is either an issue with Extension:GeoData, or hewiki is not using {{#coordinates}} in it's coordinates templates where it should be.
OK, so the {{#coordinates}} magic word was added today by the ever-excellent @eranroz, but I still don't see anything in the app. Does it have to wait for a few hours or days for caching or updating or something like that?
Looks like the hewiki query returns no results now (instead of erroring) - but it works for other cities: https://he.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=geosearch&gspage=%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9D&gsradius=1000&continue=
Amir, can you check that you get some results? If it works then we've narrowed this down to a problem with templates on the wikis rather than the app or GeoData itself, so this would be resolved invalid.
Yeah, it works now.
I wonder whether this should stay open though... the problem is real even if the communities can fix it.
And wondering a bit more, why does the app use the template that must be maintained in 289 languages if the coordinates can be stored in Wikidata, and already are stored for a lot of places?
The app does not care where the coordinates come from, it just queries the API. The API is provided by a MediaWiki extension.
Also, you might want to see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165869/ for the Wikidata idea.
Weird, did he.wiki miss my 2013-06-10 notification? I can't find it in [[he:template talk:Coord]] nor contribs.
I think it was only on IRC; but MaxSem, recently, when asked why GeoData doesn't use Wikidata, answered that's simply because Wikidata didn't quite exist at the time.
That said, Wikipedias of a size similar to he.wiki, like fi.wiki, were recently able to increase GeoData records by 100-200 % with some template tweaks taking few days of work. There is some 30 % total work which needs one-by-one editing of articles, but that can be left as last. We could ask MaxSem again for a list of which wikis are (not) using GeoData most: I think last time was many months ago.
Change 165869 had a related patch set uploaded (by Nemo bis):
Pull primary coordinates from Wikidata if none are present locally
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165869
This one is much more detailed, for what it's worth. T75482 only has the description "Make Wikibase add coordinates to GeoData", which is not entirely clear to me.
Updated both bugs to make the distinction. This bug is for sites like the Hebrew Wikipedia where the extension should pull data from Wikidata. The other bug is to get https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Nearby to work based on data in Wikidata.
More precisely, it should pull data from Wikidata as a fallback when local data is not available for any reason. The way I envision it, most data should come from Wikidata and not duplicated locally, but sometimes communities will want to have a different local value.
Around a year ago i create T89703 according to the missing nearby feature. It is somehow a duplicate of this ticket. Just from experience i learnt that it is very hard to discuss and motivate local admins in the different wikis to work on required changes to that the coordinates are properly exposed. Only in Armenian Wikipedia i reached that goal with help of a use i know very well. That is the reason why i gave up and proposed the following four approaches to tackle the problem :
Realistically, I think only the approach 3 and 4 could fix this problem in a reasonable time. Hope that someone could work on this in the next time because i think it is an important feature especially for people not speaking the big languages.
Realistically, I think only the approach 3 and 4 could fix this problem in a reasonable time.
Indeed, (3) is the way.
Note to remember that this should not be the sole way of adding coordinates, as communities continue to be hesitant about Wikidata, esp. the larger ones.
Agree. Should be like the interwiki's. The local interwiki links still override whatever sitelink is on Wikidata.
FYI: I have suggested a lightening talk about Coordinates and WIkidata/Wikipedia on WikidataCon 2017 in Berlin please support it and join with suggestions of user cases etc...
@LGoto , is it fixed?
I don't see @MaxSem fix ( https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/165869/3 ) as merged and I don't see any reason for closing it
What are you doing? I see you closed and declined a lot of tasks that are on multiple boards. You seem to be overzealous in your clean up effort and are probably unintentionally offending a lot of volunteers in the process. You should take more care with your grooming. You can kick things of your board if you have no plans on working on it or you can add a swim lane for things your team is not going to work on, but might be open for other teams/volunteers to work on.
I don't see the harm. Phabricator is just like a wiki: anything that can be done can also be undone. If you think it's wrong, undo it or talk about it. No big deal. Just don't revert war. ;-)
Change 165869 abandoned by MaxSem:
Pull primary coordinates from Wikidata if none are present locally
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/165869