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I recently used Special:MassMessage to send a notification to 1,800+ talk pages. Rather than have the posts signed as "MediaWiki message delivery," I opted to have it signed under my own name by doing the usual [[User:Harej|Harej]]. I ended up getting two notifications about "MediaWiki message delivery" pinging me, even though they were just my own comments. But I only got two notifications, not over 1,800. Both of the notifications were from posts to Flow boards:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:S9votlzzkv0yz49e&topic_showPostId=s9votmaguo7uw9jm&fromnotif=1#flow-post-s9votmaguo7uw9jm

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:S9vousecxfm7f5kk&topic_showPostId=s9vousj93cqgo8hg&fromnotif=1#flow-post-s9vousj93cqgo8hg

In the long term, the way MassMessage messages are attributed should be revisited (T71954: Add support to MassMessage to allow using the sender's username for deliveries), but in the meantime, it shouldn't ping me over my own message.

	Subject	Repo	Branch	Lines +/-
	MassMessage flow mention fixed	mediawiki/extensions/MassMessage	master	+3 -2

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Harej created this task.Jan 14 2015, 8:21 PM

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Quiddity triaged this task as Medium priority.Jan 14 2015, 9:45 PM

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Quiddity updated the task description. (Show Details)Feb 24 2015, 5:28 PM

Harej mentioned this in T90383: give willing people an easy way to volunteer their user talk pages as a testing ground for Flow.Mar 12 2015, 2:19 PM

wctaiwan subscribed.Mar 24 2015, 8:49 PM

Legoktm moved this task from Backlog to Needs code on the Notifications board.Jul 6 2015, 7:45 AM

Quiddity merged a task: T144754: MassMessage sends notifications to message sender when that message is signed and posted on a Flow board.Sep 19 2016, 9:28 PM

Quiddity added subscribers: Trizek-WMF, Etonkovidova, • Catrope, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE.

Comments from merged task:

In T144754#2614164, @Trizek-WMF wrote:

On my way to distribute the survey about Flow, I'm receiving notifications and emails. Fortunately, I'm only targeting 1300 pages .

In T144754#2630954, @Catrope wrote:

Idea: perhaps the delivery bot is on the user blacklist for mentions, and Flow mentions don't respect this blacklist while wikitext mentions do? If that's true, this would be a general bug not related to MassMessage.

In T144754#2650341, @Etonkovidova wrote:

Tested in betalabs: when a message via Special:MassMessage is posted on a Flow board, a new topic is created. If a sender has this Flow board on his watchlist - the user will get notification.

Plus here's a link to the Blacklist config details, which still need to be better understood:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Echo#Usage
(AFAIK, the only wiki which utilises this is Enwiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Echo-blacklist ) (and I don't know how to search for the existence of local versions elsewhere, per T129698: Example quarry query for searching multiple wikis for locally customized mediawiki:foo pages)

In T86812#2650538, @Quiddity wrote:

In T144754#2630954, @Catrope wrote:

Idea: perhaps the delivery bot is on the user blacklist for mentions, and Flow mentions don't respect this blacklist while wikitext mentions do? If that's true, this would be a general bug not related to MassMessage.

I was wrong, it's just a simple hack in MassMessage: https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-MassMessage/blob/master/MassMessage.hooks.php#L138 . That needs to be updated to add 'flow-mention', I'll do that now.

• Catrope reassigned this task from • Catrope to • KMuthu.Sep 20 2016, 6:48 PM

Change 311854 had a related patch set uploaded (by Kmuthu):
MassMessage flow mention fixed

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/311854

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Sep 20 2016, 10:49 PM

• Catrope moved this task from In Development to QA Review on the Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016 board.Sep 21 2016, 12:49 AM

Change 311854 merged by jenkins-bot:
MassMessage flow mention fixed

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/311854

ReleaseTaggerBot added a project: MW-1.28-release (WMF-deploy-2016-10-04_(1.28.0-wmf.21)).Sep 21 2016, 1:00 AM

Trizek-WMF awarded a token.Sep 21 2016, 8:08 AM

Checked in betalabs - no extra notificaitons (self-mention notifications as described in the ticket).

Etonkovidova moved this task from QA Review to Product Review on the Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016 board.Sep 21 2016, 10:48 PM

• jmatazzoni edited projects, added Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016); removed Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016.Oct 5 2016, 6:34 PM

• jmatazzoni moved this task from Untriaged to Product Review on the Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016) board.

• jmatazzoni closed this task as Resolved.Oct 5 2016, 6:37 PM

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