Wikidata:Property proposal/BIU Santé image bank ID
BIU Santé image bank ID
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
Description | identifier for an image on the Bibliothèque interuniversitaire de santé image bank |
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Represents | Image bank (Q107463432) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | item |
Allowed values | [a-zA-Z0-9_-] |
Example 1 | Q108915125 → CIPC0020 |
Example 2 | MISSING |
Example 3 | MISSING |
Source | https://www.biusante.parisdescartes.fr/histoire/images/index.php |
External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
Planned use | The BIU Santé would like to add to Wikimedia Commons about 3000 images from our image bank. The aim is to create a wikidata identifier for each image, which will allow us to manage the metadata related to the images |
Number of IDs in source | 18000 |
Formatter URL | https://www.biusante.parisdescartes.fr/histmed/image?$1 |
See also | BIU Santé person ID (P5375) |
Motivation
[edit]BIU Santé - Solenne Coutagne 09:34, 27 May 2021 (UTC) This new Wikidata property will make it possible to improve the quality of the metadata of the images of the BIU Santé uploaded on Wikimedia Commons, by linking them to people, places, events, discoveries...
Two more motivations : This would also be a new Wikidata property related to medicine (Q19887775) which would allow a better coverage of the history of medicine (Q380274) and to facilitate the reuse of the images from the Image bank (Q107463432) added to Commons. BIU Santé - Olivier Ghuzel (talk) 13:26, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
Discussion
[edit]- Support, an important property for Wikidata.--Arbnos (talk) 15:32, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose what is currently proposed. This is an image id, so it should definitely not be used on human (Q5) or organization (Q43229) items.
- Regarding the aim of adding metadata to images, this is obviously useful, but we already have BIU Santé person ID (P5375) for people and your images are internally indexed on it. So I guess you have a basis at least for your metadata on people, but we don't want those 123 image ids added to Louis Pasteur (Q529).--Nono314 (talk) 09:01, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- @BIU Santé - Solenne Coutagne: By the way, is there a reason those metadata are not available in your online pages (ie no link back from image to bio, only the other way round)? I remember when I tried a few years ago to add images from BIU Santé, but it happened to be extremely tedious...--Nono314 (talk) 10:12, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Nono314:You are right, our examples are badly chosen and do not describe exactly what this property will be used for: linking an image identifier from our image bank to the wikidata record of this image.
- We don’t want to link image IDs with human or organization items. We plan to create new items representing images, for which we will specify the subject. It could be a person, a building, a place, an event or any other relevant subject... (our image bank doesn’t only contain portraits). It’s not the image ID that would be connected with a person (or any other subject), but the person ID that may be specified at the image level thanks to the « depicts » property (depicts (P180)).
- For the second point, we know the problem between the biography database and the image bank. It will be resolved soon. BIU Santé - Solenne Coutagne (talk) 14:53, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Comment @BIU Santé - Solenne Coutagne, BIU Santé - Olivier Ghuzel, Arbnos, Nono314: I created a new item Q108915125 and put it here as an example (and masked the other old examples), what do you think? @Olivier/Solenne: could you use OpenRefine to create some other items? (following the model of my example, which might not be perfect). If not, an other "simplier" way to go is to not create item for each document on Wikidata and just use this property directly on Commons, then the example would be Commons:Special:EntityData/M60226381 → CIPB1478. Both ways could work, tell us what you prefer ;) Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 14:15, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
- Not done 457 days open, 314 days since last edit. No consensus to create. --Emu (talk) 13:10, 28 August 2022 (UTC)