Wikidata:Property proposal/given name identical to this family name
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given name identical to this family name
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person
Not done
| Description | The given name/first name spelled the same was as this surname/family name is |
|---|---|
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | family names/surnames |
| Allowed values | items for given names |
| Example 1 | Sylvain (Q18001608) (family name): Sylvain (Q16281827) (given name) |
| Example 2 | Jacob (Q1677404) (family name): Jacob (Q25999604) (given name) |
| Example 3 | Martin (Q12035675) (family name): Martin (Q18002399) (given name) |
| Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
| See also | family name identical to this given name (P1533) |
Motivation
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Notified participants of WikiProject Names
Provides a simple way to link the two items together. Inverse property label for family name identical to this given name (P1533). HarryNº2 (talk) 01:59, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Discussion
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Support --HarryNº2 (talk) 01:59, 11 November 2020 (UTC)- Support Klaas `Z4␟` V: 08:14, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Comment Inverse properties are generally unnecessary here in Wikidata. Are you intending this as a true inverse, or simply for cases where a particular name is unusual as a given name, but more common as a family name? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:54, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- What difference does that make? At the moment I don't see any possibility of referring to an identical given name. With this property there would be an easy possibility, especially in the field of personal names. --HarryNº2 (talk) 02:12, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Why do you need the link in that direction, if it already exists in the reverse direction? ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:44, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- What difference does that make? At the moment I don't see any possibility of referring to an identical given name. With this property there would be an easy possibility, especially in the field of personal names. --HarryNº2 (talk) 02:12, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Oppose per ArthurPSmith: we already have family name identical to this given name (P1533) which has as inverse relation given name identical to this family name (Q98796397), so therefore Sylvain (Q18001608) -> given name identical to this family name (Q98796397) -> Sylvain (Q16281827). This is just duplicate information --Hannes Röst (talk)- Oppose Inverse properties are a waste of everyone's time. Rather, Wikibase needs to change to display this information automatically. NMaia (talk) 15:58, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose per NMaia Vojtěch Dostál (talk) 19:15, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Comment A possible use for this could be for wikis that want interwikis also to items for given names if no family name page exists in another wiki. I don't think its creation would generate much maintenance as these can be added automatically and shouldn't require any maintenance once added. --- Jura 19:32, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
- Opposeper NMaia. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 21:48, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Not done no consensus to create --DannyS712 (talk) 00:15, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
