Wikidata:Property proposal/educational year
educational year
[edit]This property was requested after extensive consultation with the Wikidata community and experts on ed tech, OER, global and national curriculum, education policy, and digitization. Over the two rounds of the consultation, we received input from 31 individuals representing various global perspectives and areas of expertise to aid in the full implementation of the Wikidata for Education project.
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
| Description | The level a student has reached in their academic pursuit. For example, 3rd grade. |
|---|---|
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | property in education (Q8434) |
| Example 1 | middle school (Q149566) → seventh grade (Q43791171) |
| Example 2 | Junior High School (Q113000893)→ National curriculum of Ghana for Junior High School 1 (Q113463634) |
| Example 3 | middle school (Q149566)→ Year 7 (Q17010108) |
| Planned use | Read more about the data model WD4E Data Model. Check out How it is used in the test environment Q224561. |
| Wikidata project | Wikidata for Education |
Motivation
[edit]This property will be used to specify the educational year of a specific curriculum. For instance a JHS 1 mathematics curriculum will have Junior High School (Basic 7) in the Ghanaian system as the value for the property Educational year which will be Year Seven in United Kingdom System.
Dnshitobu (talk) 13:05, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Discussion
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Comment are the examples correct? educational year (Q10291405) is a generic class used by more specific educational years... Abbe98 (talk) 10:59, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for prompt. I have corrected them now. Andrews Lartey (talk) 23:16, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Grades at which people take courses vary WIDELY among schools, districts, programs, and universities. I'm not sure where you're getting this data that these courses are taken specifically during these grades... Lectrician1 (talk) 13:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- Your point is factual. This property will allow one to state the expected grade for which the subject or content is suited for per the standard set by the governing body that developed the content. Hence, the usage of this property should be in consultation with the recommendation of the governing body that set the standards. For example, with AP Capstone, the program is targeted at student who are motivated and prepared for college-level coursework; in this case technically Grade 11 and 12 students are. There may be other regions who will also use the ISCED 2011 standards to determine what courses are meant for what grade level. Andrews Lartey (talk) 18:24, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
Strong support Sir Amugi (talk) 23:11, 20 July 2022 (UTC)- Strong supportAbubakar280 (talk) 23:38, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
- Strong supportAmuzujoe (talk) 13:10, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- Strong supportWarmglow (talk) 15:39, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- Strong supportOladipupo193 (talk) 07:45, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- Currently the examples do not make sense. 2A01:CB14:D52:1200:A48C:CAB9:A6AB:8377 23:49, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- This is better now. 2A01:CB14:D52:1200:315F:D09B:F5EB:C51B 18:48, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Oppose This is far from ready and the strong support seems suspicious Germartin1 (talk) 08:24, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, the strong supports sound like meat puppets. See the other proposal in this area https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AContributions&target=Andrews+Lartey&newOnly=1 2A01:CB14:D52:1200:877:881B:E63B:7EC7 12:00, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- I suggest to ping Wikidata:WikiProject Education and Wikidata:WikiProject Ontology. 2A01:CB14:D52:1200:315F:D09B:F5EB:C51B 18:48, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you and suggestion well noted. Wikidata:WikiProject Education were already ping on their discussion right at the beginning of the project Dnshitobu (talk) 11:02, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
- It looks like has part(s) (P527) and part of (P361) is already used for the same thing as this property. Why isn't the current modeling sufficient? Abbe98 (talk) 13:54, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
- @Abbe98 Thank you for your comment but I am not how it relates to this property under request. It would be very helpful if you could please give more clarity. Dnshitobu (talk) 17:19, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Use prerequisite (P4967)? --Dhx1 (talk) 13:36, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
Comment We appreciate the efforts and the time you spent reviewing the proposed properties. We are reviewing all your comments and some collated pieces of advice and would update the proposals soon and reply accordingly to all question. Dnshitobu (talk) 16:02, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose The property description needs to be more specific. Is this restricted to saying what grades a school has or is also allowed to say what grades a class is taken during? Lectrician1 (talk) 06:59, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose is not coherent. BrokenSegue (talk) 00:19, 31 January 2023 (UTC)