Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with Photo by Milburn Fernandes

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Photo by Milburn Fernandes, no prove that he is an employee from the US Federal Government, thus the PD license could be invalid

A1Cafel (talk) 02:39, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep. You have no proof that this photographer is not an employee of the U. S. Government in India, such as an U. S. Embassy (government) employees and translators assigned to escort Deputy Secretary Sherman.
The description provided by the U. S. Department of State itself says the photograph is "Photo by Milburn Fernandes/Public Domain." That is an affirmative statement made by the agency staff that uploaded onto the U. S. State Department's Flickr account- in addition to the separate license tag.
The many photos you upload from Twitter U. S. Government agency accounts, do not have the name of the photographer. No name attributed to the photos. Yet you assume that it is "an employee from the US Federal Government"- because it is an official U. S. Government Twitter account. The official U. S. Government Flickr account deserves equal consideration. -- Ooligan (talk) 02:23, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment In general, images from the Department of State will mark as "State Department photo (by photographer)/Public Domain", or if it is come from the employees of the U.S. Government, it will mark as "Photo courtesy of U.S. Embassy New Delhi/ Public Domain". Either statement is missing, so I doubt Rakesh Malholtra is not an employee of the U.S. Federal Government. Some of the photos posted on the Twitter/Facebook pages of U.S. Federal Government are license landuring, such photos should be uploaded in caution. --A1Cafel (talk) 02:53, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
From my previous statement above:
The description provided by the U. S. Department of State itself says the photograph is "Photo by Milburn Fernandes/ Public Domain."
You wrote, "In general, images from the Department of State will mark as "State Department photo (by photographer)/Public Domain" ...
So to compare your example,
"Photo by Milburn Fernandes/ Public Domain - (actual).
"State Department photo (by photographer)/Public Domain" - (example).
The difference between your example and the State Department's official Flickr account files are the words: "State Department"
These files are from the State Department, so it writing it again would be redundant information.
You helped me to make my point!
Thank you, --
Ooligan (talk) 06:33, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Again, simply "Photo by Milburn Fernandes/Public Domain." is not an affirmative statement made by the agency staff. For example, File:Secretary Pompeo Meets with Bahraini King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa (50271767256).jpg attributed "Royal Court of Bahrain photo/ Public Domain", but it doesn't mean that Royal Court of Bahrain has agreed to release the images into PD. --A1Cafel (talk) 16:37, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Generally we accept that the official Flickr accounts of governments have cleared the images they release to Flickr with their copyright attorneys, and the license they release them under is valid. If they withdraw the image from Flickr, or change the license, then we should delete. --RAN (talk) 16:41, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: No good reason to doubt the PD declaration by the government. holly {chat} 21:30, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]