Talk:Balranald Shire

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Field Name	Field Value
council	Balranald Shire Council
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ausborn	88.5
neighbour	Yes
atsi	6.2
deputymayor	Ronald Mengler

Proposed merge of Condoulpe, New South Wales into Balranald Shire

There does not seem to be too much information on Condoulpe so turning it into a paragraph on the Shire page seems like a good solution. Gusfriend (talk) 07:33, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 19:50, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

@The Drover's Wife: I note your rollback of the merge with the edit comment locality articles do not get merged into LGA articles. I've reverted that, because is was against a proposal uncontested for more than 9 months and I can't see any policy that matches your claim. Do you want to propose a split? Klbrain (talk) 12:01, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Nope. Per Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features), "Legally recognized, populated places are presumed to be notable". There is not a cut-out for "if User:Klbrain really wants to randomly merge some into the LGA article where it doesn't remotely fit, and no one notices for a few months". If you're going to override an explicit presumption, you need more than a completely ignored proposal. The Drover's Wife (talk) 12:42, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

I then checked and discovered that the original author stuffed up and it's not in fact a gazetted place but a cadastral parish, which are not notable for Wikipedia purposes. It is, in fact, in Kyalite - so I merged it there, rather than randomly and unhelpfully redirecting (not merge) it into an article on a municipality covering a hugely broader area where any actual content about the subject would be out of place. The point stands, though - the validity of your random attempts to merge locality articles doesn't hinge on how long it takes someone to notice the stunt you pulled. The Drover's Wife (talk) 12:48, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

@The Drover's Wife: I'm sorry you feel this way. Your view seems to be contrary to protocol. Specifically, from Wikipedia:WikiProject Merge#Closing Merger proposals to begin merging, if there is silence, after the debate has been open for at least two weeks, proceed with the merger. 9 months without an objection therefore seemed perfectly reasonable to proceed with a merge. Also, presumed notability does not mean notable; the proposer, having not identified a lack of reliable sources, is therefore claiming that that presumption was, in this case, invalid. Thank you for carrying out the merge, and for your helpful work elsewhere. Klbrain (talk) 21:04, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Merge#Closing Merger proposals to begin merging does not prevent un-merging a no-discussion proposal when someone actually notices what you did, and "presumed notability" is not overridden just because someone says they don't agree. That's something that requires an actual discussion with real, live human participation. The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:56, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Penarie, New South Wales into Balranald Shire

It would be good to turn it into a paragraph on the Shire page seems like a good solution. Gusfriend (talk) 07:35, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Oppose, on the grounds that the town article is sufficiently well-deveoped that it's worth keeping as stand-alone town, particularly for a settlement with a history documented for over more than 140 years. Klbrain (talk) 07:57, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Closing, with no merge, given the uncontested objection and no support. Klbrain (talk) 19:41, 1 January 2023 (UTC)