Talk:Carmarthen

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Transpoman in topic Map request

Map request

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The article now includes a map so I removed the requested map template. Transpoman (talk) 18:05, 1 October 2023 (UTC)Reply

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I've removed the photos containing 'copyright notices', per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#User-created_images.

There are plenty of Carmarthen pics out there, without resorting to ones which ignore Wikipedia guidelines.

--Darren Wyn Rees (talk) 15:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

The recent Flame War between User:Rhyshuw1 and User:Darren Wyn Rees must come to an end. This adding and removal is extremely unhelpful to the project and the page. It is difficult to work out where this issue arises from, but as far as I can make out, Rhyshuw1 is adding photos with copyright notices when there are photos available without copyright, also he appears not to have made communication on this page to defend his actions. I would therefore back Darren Wyn Rees' position and revert to his changes. Adding photos and stating that you own them is against the ethos of wikipedia. We give away our words and photos when we place them on this site. If you can't release them, then don't add them, which is a shame becasu they are good pieces of work.FruitMonkey (talk) 07:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)Reply
The removal of images with copyright notation on the images themselves is not a flame war. I am merely following Wikipedia guidelines and anyone who deems that flammable has sensitive skin. :-) --Darren Wyn Rees (talk) 07:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Origin of name

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Can we remove the claim that the origin of the name is disputed or at least provide some decent sources that show a different origin for the name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by EoinBach (talkcontribs) 11:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

I've taken out the claim that the origin of the name is disputed. I haven't been able to find any modern academic source which treats it as anything other than Moridunum changed (by well understood sound laws) to Myrddin and then the addition of 'Caer' to it. This is what is given in 'A Dictionary of the Placenames of Wales' published by Gwasg Gomer. This book is the definitive reference book on Welsh Placenames (as far as one can get definitive meanings in place names). It's author is Professor Hywel Wyn Owen, who is director of the Place-Name Research Centre at Bangor University and Vice President of the Society for Name Studies in Britain and Ireland. He also advises the Welsh Language Board and the Welsh Assembly on Placenames. The other author is Richard Morgan, who is an archivist and currently works at Glamorgan Record Office and is an honorary lecturer at the school of Welsh at Bangor University. Both of them are recognised as leading authorities on the placenames of Wales. I think that if anyone wants to revert back to the claim it is disputed, then they should provide modern sources that back that up.EoinBach (talk) 00:31, 9 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

I don't like the changes made to the section on the meaning of the name. It doesn't mean 'Merlin's Fort', Merlin came much later from Myrddin and it makes it sound as if they are equivalent to each other, they are not. The name is derived from Moridunum and we need to keep that in the article, otherwise it will make it sound as if Merlin lived in the town and it was named after him. I'm going to revert the changes (but am giving notice here) and hopefully rewrite the piece to explain the etymology of the name in more depth, explaining what Moridunum was and meant etc. EoinBach (talk) 11:08, 27 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

The Encyclopedia of Wales also supports EoinBach's point - the myrddin element in the name gave rise to the legend of a link to Merlin, but the original Brythonic name, Moridunum, contains the elements mor (sea) and din (fort). Pondle (talk) 15:01, 27 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

As the word myrddin does not refer to Merlin, should the translation stand for Bryn Myrddin (Merlin's Hill)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.168.209.60 (talk) 03:17, 11 January 2009 (UTC) Reply

Sorry? The name doesn't include a reference to a hill, or to Merlin. The modern name is basically Caer (fort) added to myrddin, which is a corruption of Moridunum, or 'sea fort'. Pondle (talk) 11:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Pondle - I assume that it is a reference to the first paragraph under the section 'Arthurian legend' and not to the origin of the Town's name. In which case I'm not sure it should have been added to this topic. On topic - apologies for the error in my edit (it is what we were taught in QE Maridunum and Llangain CP but more then happy to defer to experts opinions over teacher's) Saesfool (talk) 18:01, 14 January 2009

Considering there is so much disagreement about the name's origins (or at least a long-standing romantic desire to associate it with Merlin) an article section about the etymology of the name is needed. The relevant info is currently buried, unsourced and weasel worded, in the paragraph about Merlin. Sionk (talk) 05:14, 21 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Excessive Picton inscription?

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Imho, the amount of detail provided in the section Picton's monument would be a trifle excessive even without the long and tiresome inscription. The inscription would be more appropriately transferred to the article on Thomas Picton, though it's hardly notable, and I would rather see it deleted altogether. Does anyone have any argument for keeping it? Cheers Bjenks (talk) 18:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

I second this. I can't see any reason to keep it, other than the fact that I lived in Carmarthen for 20+ years and never read it! 87.194.152.184 (talk) 16:29, 21 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

I've moved the info to a new page dedicated to this interesting monument.--Thoughtfortheday (talk) 19:33, 1 January 2022 (UTC)Reply
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May I suggest that the following link be added please, because it is a comprehensive guide to the town, with information on Carmarthen's present and past:

www.carmarthentowncouncil.gov.uk

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.84.137 (talk) 17:40, 27 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

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