Talk:Cham script

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Andj C in topic Eastern Cham

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Ryan-great background information on the language, including the origin and development.
Possible suggestions for additional editing: Could add more on the structure of the writing system and how it works, possibly provide examples. Also, more in text citations may be needed. Mmg86 (talk) 01:11, 20 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Two main points:

  • There is a good amount of information, but the article lacks cohesiveness and structure. Consider breaking the article up into discrete sections. Above the table of contents should be a brief summary, then individual sections should be placed below, such as Orgins, and Usage.
  • More information is needed about the actual structure and mechanics of the language. What and how many consonants are there? Which vowels can be used? What is the inherent vowel of each syllable (If there is one)? How are independent vowels written, or consonant cluster? etc... Consider adding a table describing the sounds that each character makes. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devanagari#Letters

~Robert Schwartz 03:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Sources

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http://books.google.com/books?id=i1JFFHtdxqIC&pg=PA51&lpg=PA51&dq=cham+script+suspicion&source=bl&ots=chTcjyesg3&sig=YNpfAz3o51OQ1VGkbXDryCZf2gM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=T99hUM9p4_TSAZOwgJAK&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=cham%20script%20suspicion&f=false

http://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/handle/10125/1848/brunellesmall.pdf;jsessionid=A2453EAE5D84CB8642C6ADA51B7569B3?sequence=10

http://aix1.uottawa.ca/~mbrunell/Monosyllabicization%20in%20Eastern%20Cham.pdf

http://www.degruyter.com/dg/viewarticle/j$002fijsl.2008.2008.issue-192$002fijsl.2008.034$002fijsl.2008.034.xml


http://www.southeastasianarchaeology.com/2010/01/18/readers-cham-script-extinct/

http://www.degruyter.com/view/j/ijsl.2008.2008.issue-192/ijsl.2008.034/ijsl.2008.034.xml

http://sealang.net/sala/archives/pdf8/headley1991phonology.pdf

http://www.khmerview.com/Cham-Script.html

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/cham.htm

http://www.omniglot.com/writing/brahmi.htm


Rajmaan (talk) 16:22, 26 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

Ancient Philippine scripts

http://www.jstor.org/stable/20071506?


On the Possible Cham Origin of the Philippine Scripts Geoff Wade Journal of Southeast Asian Studies Vol. 24, No. 1 (Mar., 1993), pp. 44-87 Published by: Cambridge University Press on behalf of Department of History, National University of Singapore Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/20071506 Page Count: 44

totally not virama

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Cham does not employ a virama to suppress vowels. ...

That extension of the end stroke sure looks like its ancestor was a virama! —Tamfang (talk) 06:38, 3 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Eastern Cham

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There are two modern Cham scripts: Eastern Cham used in Vietnam and Western Cham used in Cambodia. The key parts of this article specifically discuss Eastern Cham. It may be better to either update the article to discuss both scripts or change the title of the article to reflect it is discussing the Eastern Cham script.

Andj C (talk) 11:37, 16 August 2018 (UTC)Reply