Talk:Levittown, New York
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Billy Joel
editWhy is Billy Joel not listed in the notable residents section? Seriously? I don't know how to edit this, but someone should do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.243.191.131 (talk) 22:44, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
- Do you have proof he is or was a resident? Bud0011 (talk) 22:28, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Billy Joel was a resident of Hicksville, a neighboring community, not Levittown.Luseaann (talk) 05:49, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Comment
editHicksville is part of Oyster Bay. Is Levittown part of Hicksville? Is Levittown part of Oyster Bay? See also Talk:Billy Joel. Locarno 14:51, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Untitled
editLevittown is an unincorporated town that corresponds to a zip code. Historically its a housing development that spans several town lines. Some links that can be useful [1] [2],[3] Mrdthree 02:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- So part of Levittown is in Hicksville, part in East Meadow, and part in North Wantagh. All of Levittown is in Oyster Bay. Correct? Locarno 13:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- It seems to be the case that officially it is a postal zone in the town of Hampstead in Nassau County. [4]Mrdthree 16:16, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I grew up in Bethpage, and went to Island Trees schools.
"Levittown" the unincorporated hamlet/ZIP code is all in the town of Hempstead. There are parts of the Levitt Development in Oyster Bay Town -- for example the parts of the Levitt development in Hicksville and Westbury. --Amcalabrese 20:22, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
No Principals
editNo Principals, the education section looks like a mess now. This is an article about levittown not principles in the school districts. That information should be left on the articles about the various schools. (Sullynyflhi 22:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC))
Little Boxes
editMy father is from Levittown and he was one of the original residents. He told me one day when we were watching tv that the song "little boxes", the now Weeds theme song was written about Levittown. I don't know how to look it up or anything and I think it would be interesting trivia to add to this article if someone will look it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.164.197.120 (talk) 23:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
- According to the Little Boxes article, it was written about Daly City, California (which makes sense considering the author was from California). If you find any real source that says it's about Levittown, feel free to add that information. One of the External Links on this page makes a reference to the song; certainly, people have interpreted the song as being about places like Levittown. --Tanketz 21:13, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
weird page error
editi removed the space between the geography and history section to remove that characters that were placed there for some reason...
Copyright problem removed
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Photo request
editAnyone have any fair-use historical photographs of this town? -- Ϫ 13:57, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
"a necessity of the time period"
editThere are a couple of places in this article that suggest that Levittown's racial exclusivity was somehow unavoidable, or required by outside forces, e.g., in the History section: "This covenant conformed to federal requirements that developers using FHA funding had to maintain the "racial homogeneity" of their developments." I find it hard to believe that the FHA required communities to have racially restrictive covenants, and if this statement is to remain in the article, please cite a reputable source to that effect.
Similarly, under the next section, Place in American Culture, the rather outrageous claim "the initial lease prohibited rental to non-whites, a necessity of the time period" makes it sound as though the Levitts had no choice in the matter but to create a racial covenant. Was this true of every community in the US at that time? Obviously not. Again, unless there is some credible source that the Levitts were somehow forced to write the racial covenant into the original documents, this inflammatory phrase should be removed. Bill.jesdale (talk) 04:21, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Completely agree with Bill's comments. Unless there's a creditable reference proving that an alternative was impossible, the article would be improved by changing the phrase a necessity of the time period to a convention of the time period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.251.42.40 (talk) 21:08, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
- I removed the sentence from the 'History' section that seems problematic. If a credible source that FHA required racial homogeneity, rather than tolerated it, that would warrant re-placing the sentence. Perhaps this issue can be resolved with somewhat better wording that makes it clear that the FHA didn't require racial homogeneity (although it was apparently more than willing to tolerate racially restrictive covenants). Bill.jesdale (talk) 23:31, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
- History channel's "Freedom" by Deon Cole, talks about the integration of Levittown.64.53.191.77 (talk) 14:37, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Lanes
editInlude, Abbey,Wisdom,Harvest,hil, johnson. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BNC1990 (talk • contribs) 23:14, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Levittown not first
editContrary to the article's claim, Levittown was not the first planned suburb. One counterexample is Planeview KS, a suburb of Wichita planned and built by the federal government to house Boeing workers during WWII. It still exists as an incorporated community. For a brief history, see http://www.wingsoverkansas.com/history/article.asp?id=114. It is also discussed in a chapter titled "Planes on the Plain-1944" in It Happened in Kansas--Remarkable Events that Shaped History by Sarah Smarch (Guilford CN: Globe Pequot Press, 2010). Burressd (talk) 03:05, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
- Planeview, KS doesn't even have a page here, but seems like it should. Flight Risk (talk) 19:55, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
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Is this the first? Or Penn?
editThe Levittown PA article claims it was the first planned subdivision, this article seems to imply it was, but then also mentions earlier planned communities. So which was it? Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:04, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
- I don't see anywhere in the Levittown, Pennsylvania article where it claims it was the "first planned subdivision". In fact, it says specifically that it was built after Levittown, New York was completed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:22, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
- You're right, I confused the article with [5], which sort-of makes this claim. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:01, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure I wrote that caption, and it calls Levittown, Pennsylvania "one of the first major post-World War II housing developments in the United States", so it really doesn't make the claim to be first at all. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:02, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- Which is why I said "sort of"; "one of the first major" is a vague statement. More to the point, does this require mentioning at all? If the image is simply a representation of the actual town, Westlake, then this is a detail that seems out of place, no? Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:03, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure I wrote that caption, and it calls Levittown, Pennsylvania "one of the first major post-World War II housing developments in the United States", so it really doesn't make the claim to be first at all. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:02, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- You're right, I confused the article with [5], which sort-of makes this claim. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:01, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
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Jew-hating jews
editQuote: Though the Levitts were Jewish, they did not wish to sell homes to Jewish families either; despite this, by 1960, although it was still a completely "white" suburb,[15] the population of Levittown was roughly a third Jewish, with the remainder about a third Roman Catholic, and a third Protestant.
The "jews not selling to jews" bit is not at all logical, and not borne out by the referenced article. Maikel (talk) 07:29, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, it is supported. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:01, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
- BTW, Nothing is said about Levitt "hating Jews". I have no doubt that their reasons were entirely economic and paralleled why they didn't sell to blacks: they thought they would sell more houses to whites if the community was white-only. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:05, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
- "I have no doubt" is not a valid reference. ;) Maikel (talk) 11:54, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- Then provide a reference from a reliable source which says that the Levitts were "self-hating Jews". Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:09, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- "I have no doubt" is not a valid reference. ;) Maikel (talk) 11:54, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- BTW, Nothing is said about Levitt "hating Jews". I have no doubt that their reasons were entirely economic and paralleled why they didn't sell to blacks: they thought they would sell more houses to whites if the community was white-only. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:05, 28 July 2019 (UTC)