Talk:Lovecraft Country

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I gave this article a fairly heavy edit because it seemed to be bent on proving that the phrase was just a RPG term and wasn't really generally accepted--which a) I'm not sure is true and b) is kind of besides the point, because whether or not people call it that, "Lovecraft Country" does represent a discernable fictional idea, and if there's another name for it we ought to mention it. But the article should be mainly about the idea rather than the terminology, I think. As it stands now, I think there still should be more about the geography of Lovecraft Country.Nareek 05:33, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Map

A map of real and fictitious locations would be rather helpful to the article, especially to us non-North Americans. Calistemon (talk) 13:26, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks User:Nappinenä. Calistemon (talk) 01:24, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

See also

I really don't see the need for mentioning any paranormal or non paranormal activities in this articles as they are absolutely unrelated to the matter and don't even take place in the same area. Runlevel0 22:55, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

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Merges from Dunwich, Innsmouth

Please see Talk:The_Dunwich_Horror#Merge_from_Dunwich_(Lovecraft) (which seems to suggest merger here is better) and also Talk:Innsmouth#Merge_to_Lovecraft_Country. PS. For more context, note that in March 2020 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kingsport (Lovecraft) resulted in merge here. In 2019 Miskatonic River was redirected to Miskatonic University. and Sarkomand was just deleted (both after a PROD). PPS. IF anyone cares, R'lyeh looks terrible, my first thought would be that 'it should be notable', but the current article totally does not indicate this :( --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:53, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

I've added sections on Arkham, Dunwich and Innsmouth. That is not a comment on the merger proposals. If and when those articles are merged their content should obviously replace the current {{main}} templates. CapnZapp (talk) 11:56, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Veracity of maps

What sources are User:Hoodinski's "A detailed map of Lovecraft Country" and User:Miihkali's "A map of Lovecraft country" drawn from, in this article? Both are credited as being the own work of their uploaders: a web search suggests that the first may be based on a map from a later work of fiction or roleplaying game, and the second appears to be a user's own sketch, but it's not stated what source they're working from. --Lord Belbury (talk) 11:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

It's my own sketch. That was more than a decade ago, but as far as I can recall I didn't have any particular source. I took a regular map of Massachusetts, copied it by hand and finally placed a few cities on their approximate locations. If I had a source it might have been a Call of Cthulhu supplement whose name escapes me. (I don't own it anymore but it had red cover and included a bunch of adventure modules with tailor-made characters.) But it's equally probable I just placed the cities where I imagined they'd belong. The map I made looks hideous and I wouldn't mind if it were deleted. I suppose I could look for some Chaosium sourcebook and make a new map with sources cited, but that's going to take some time. --Miihkali (talk) 11:46, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

I think it's fine, I actually assumed it was one of Lovecraft's sketches, looking at the thumbnail view. I'll move it to a more appropriate section and clarify that it's a reader's map, but if you feel like tracking the source down and/or redrawing it, that would be good to see. The only similar map I can find online is https://www.wellerbookworks.com/sites/wellerbookworks.com/files/Lovecraft-Country-Map.png, and it's not clear what that's been based on. --Lord Belbury (talk) 13:47, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Manuxet River

Is there a primary source confirming the existence of a Manuxet River in the real world? The only references I can find on Google are to Murray's article in Crypt of Cthulu and direct links to Lovecraft stories or fan sites. Additionally, Murray's article is published in a self-described "fanzine with high standards" rather than in a reputable critical journal. Unless there is a map indicating that the river exists, this section might be better off with less detail. 2600:6C64:643F:391E:15B:F216:334A:F2E0 (talk) 11:46, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes, The encyclopedia Cthulhiana by Daniel Harms (Chaosium 1998), You borrow a copy from Archive.org. I have a COI here so won't be adding the ref. Sciencefish (talk) 12:45, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

That's not a cite that proves the river exists for real. The Encyclopedia Cthulhiana is just a collection of Lovecraftian lore. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 15:18, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Apologies, I misread your question, as it's a fictional river, you'll be hard pressed to find any real world evidence. Just skimming google maps and the Library of Congress gives no results. Sciencefish (talk) 15:29, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Hence my point, which is that the section makes claims not supported by reputable sources outside of the Lovecraft fanzine community. Some edit should be made to reflect the fact that this river shows up on no maps of the real world. 2600:6C64:643F:171E:8CDF:4E07:E59B:9EF5 (talk) 21:26, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

What edit are you wanting? The section already states it's a fictional river. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 12:45, 19 October 2022 (UTC)