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Latest comment: 1 month ago by A.S. Brown in topic Desperate Frankie
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Desperate Frankie

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At 06:27, 15 February 2019 188.255.172.185 edited as follows - "(→‎Military operations: Removed "Desperate Frankie" ridiculing British nickname for a great French general. This is gratuitous hate, not appropriate for a historical text)" This raises an interesting point - is the use of a contemporary nickname (which could be affectionate, rather than hateful) appropriate for a historical article ? RGCorris (talk) 10:05, 15 February 2019 (UTC)Reply

It seems to be OK. The British did call Louis Franchet d'Espèrey "Desperate Frankie" since apparently his surname was hard for them to pronounce, and I don't see anything wrong about mentioning that nickname as long as it is not undue weight. There is a marked tendency in the English-language sources to disparage French generals as the proverbial "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" to use a popular American expression, which is really gross and unfair, and I suspect that is what the IPs was reacting to. Franchet d'Espèrey was actually a very good general who successfully brought the operations in the Balkans to a victorious close by knocking out Bulgaria and the Austrian empire. But mentioning his nickname does not seem to be a problem. --A.S. Brown (talk) 04:22, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply