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Assessment
editAssessed this article as top importance, as under current musical theory, it is one of the chordophones that preceded and developed into the lutes. Jacqke (talk) 23:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
How is it played?
editEr... how is it played? The article doesn't say, and I have no clue. Could anyone with even a vague idea of the operation of this instrument elaborate on what precisely one does with it to make noise? Pluck? Hum? Ignite? -- 69.113.219.44 02:28, 23. Jan. 2007
- http://aei.helping.nl/ seems to be a dead link. Simplicius (talk) 22:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- One way to play it can bee seen on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2AORnJlUdw
- another way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNyX6FJ1H9E&feature=related
- third way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sFkoXyNEY8&feature=related
- 83.183.64.115 (talk) 02:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- Very interesting, thanks! Simplicius (talk) 06:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Merge Ground bow into Musical bow
editSources appear to discuss ground bow with musical bow. The ground bow appears to be a minor variation of the musical bow - both appear to be developed or adapted from a hunting bow, and are played in the same way. It would seem more helpful to readers if we did as sources, such as Britannica [1], do, and keep them together. Britannica redirects "ground bow" to its discussion on musical bows in African culture: [2]. SilkTork (talk) 13:26, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- It appears that a musical bow is a quiet instrument so needs a resonator - the pit used by the ground bow is such a resonator, other forms are a gourd or the player's mouth. SilkTork (talk) 13:29, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi SilkTork, I am glad to see another looking at improving a musical instruments article. My 2 cents (probably worth about that): Before merging these two articles, I think some exploration needs to be made to systematically list the various musical bows, bar zithers and stick zithers. It doesn't seem to have been done anywhere that I have seen, and there are variants: African, Southeast Asian, South American and who knows where else. I have been working on Kse diev and Phin pia; it appears that Hornbostel & Sachs were not finished exploring these and didn't cover everything. The instruments have characteristics that could almost put them into the musical bows category as well as the zithers. A ground based resonator is a musical bow of sorts, but what Sachs doesn't account for is size; the other musical bows are handheld (those that I know of, thus a need for a list). As to the ground bow, it is a bow but it is very different in that it isn't a portable, play anywhere instrument. If the two articles are to be merged, it should be in the context of a larger article that really explores all the musical bows as a family. If you want to start moving the musical bows and merge the articles, just organize it as best you can. Jacqke (talk) 17:32, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
- I see the sense in what you are saying. This had dropped off my radar, so thanks for bringing my attention back here. I will look into this a bit more. SilkTork (talk) 08:16, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 12:34, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
- I see the sense in what you are saying. This had dropped off my radar, so thanks for bringing my attention back here. I will look into this a bit more. SilkTork (talk) 08:16, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
- Hi SilkTork, I am glad to see another looking at improving a musical instruments article. My 2 cents (probably worth about that): Before merging these two articles, I think some exploration needs to be made to systematically list the various musical bows, bar zithers and stick zithers. It doesn't seem to have been done anywhere that I have seen, and there are variants: African, Southeast Asian, South American and who knows where else. I have been working on Kse diev and Phin pia; it appears that Hornbostel & Sachs were not finished exploring these and didn't cover everything. The instruments have characteristics that could almost put them into the musical bows category as well as the zithers. A ground based resonator is a musical bow of sorts, but what Sachs doesn't account for is size; the other musical bows are handheld (those that I know of, thus a need for a list). As to the ground bow, it is a bow but it is very different in that it isn't a portable, play anywhere instrument. If the two articles are to be merged, it should be in the context of a larger article that really explores all the musical bows as a family. If you want to start moving the musical bows and merge the articles, just organize it as best you can. Jacqke (talk) 17:32, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Mapeh
editResenator bow introducing 223.25.58.43 (talk) 01:14, 13 November 2022 (UTC)