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Need help in copyediting and reviewing

Dear Sainsf (talk · contribs), after the successful elevation to GA status of the Banton, Romblon article, I am thinking of nominating this article for GA status. Before I nominate the article though, I would like you and other Wikipedia editors, such as Wtmitchell (talk · contribs) and Namayan (talk · contribs) to review the article so I can do cleanup and copyediting. Looking forward to your help in this article just as in Banton. Thanks! — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 08:02, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

This is great work, you might want to consider this instead for your language section: https://psa.gov.ph/content/romblon-population-expected-double-41-years -- Namayan (talk) 09:29, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

—Will look into this. Thanks, Namayan! — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 03:27, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

—Lawrence ruiz This is an awesome article. I feel you should nominate it, I would love to take up the review and add my comments there itself. If we do it all here then it would be same as a peer review, unofficially. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 10:09, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

—Okay, Sainsf. I just nominated the article. Looking forward to your review. Thanks! — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 11:02, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

—Lawrence ruiz Thank you. I am busy nowadays, will try to find time for a complete review in the next week. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 11:07, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Comments on the lead

1. It would be better to add another paragraph or two to give a concise summary of the article. See WP:LEAD for guidance.
2. "archipelago province" should be "archipelagic province". Yes "archipelagic" is a word.
3. There should be a comma after "Tablas".
4. You mentioned "Mindoro" as an island, but then mention "Aklan and Capiz". I suggest saying "Panay" instead.

—seav (talk) 19:10, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

—Will work on these comments as soon as I have free time. Thanks, Seav! — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 03:27, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 11:14, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Taken, as promised. :) Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 11:14, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Lead

• Please expand the lead. As per WP:MOSLEAD, this article should have at least three good paras covering most aspects of the article
• the largest, Tablas which "Tablas, the largest, which"

Etymology

• the name Romblon No italics, use double quotes.
• I wonder if you need to link "chronicler"
• Roland Madeja and Evelyn Reyes relates say "relate"
• Link Spanish to Spanish language
• origin of the name Romblon Double quotes
• another term for tornillo Why is this added? Are tornillo and ronblon synonyms? — Yes. — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 09:52, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Early history

• who have settled in the islands during the precolonial period You mean "who settled in the island" in that period?
• currently in display "on", not "in"
• before the arrival of the Spaniards When was that? Give an idea of it even if you explain it later on.
• Remnants of these aborigines Who are you referring to, the Spaniards or the native settlers?

Spanish period

• According to Blair and Robertson Who are they?
• Spanish chronicler Miguel de Loarca Don't introduce him again. Just say de Loarca
• Who is a Recollect missionary? Link or explain
• Link Catholic
• they sestablished typo?
• Duplink: Mindoro, Arevalo
• Link Asi and Onhan
• Any link possible for Sibuyanon style of Romblomanon? — Currently, there is no article for that because it's not a language but a linguistic style.— Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 09:52, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
• sub-province administered "sub-provinces" — A commandancia is a sub-province in Spanish

Revolutionary period

• The Caviteño Mariano Riego de Dios and his forces liberated Romblon, while Ananias Diocno and Leandro Fullon proceeded to Panay. Who are these people?
• On July 25 of the same year "of" not needed
• a total amount of P22,765.21 What is P?
• What is a barrio? Link or explain
• However, Molo’s term was a brief transition to another era as the Americans arrived in the province a few months later. Source? — Reyes, 1995 — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 09:52, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Please add the appropriate source to the end of the line. As of now it looks unsourced. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 10:13, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

American period

• Duplink: Banton

Japanese period

• The islands became one of the centers of resistance movement Resistance to what?
• Japanase forces "Japanese"

Modern period

• saw new municipalities created "saw the creation of new..."

Geography

• There are numerous duplinks in this section and the subsections. I will not point them out from now, I will rather suggest using this tool yourself to detect duplinks and remove them in the article.
• Link archipelago
• 17 minor and small islands. What is the difference between minor and small?
• 1,533.45 square kilometres (153,345 ha) Better convert to sq. mi
• about 5.30% No "0" needed
• It is generally mountainous with about 40% of its land area having slopes greater than 50% Could not understand this
• 500 meters (1,640) feet) extra bracket
• The major locations of areas that are highly productive and buildable are basically in Tablas and Sibuyan. "locations of" is redundant
• These maybe found in Odiongan, San Andres, Looc and Santa Fe in Tablas Island "These maybe found" --> "These include"
• Corona’s climatic classification system Link?
• Should Amihan be in italics?

Demographics

• What is MIMAROPA?
• Say either % or percent or per cent throughout the article

Has this been done? Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 07:29, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

• Austronesian language family Link?

Economy

• Agriculture is the main industry in the province Say "in Romblon", we are starting a new section
• Coconut is the number one crop "the most cultivated" is better than "number one"
• 58,270.44 hectares. Convert to sqmi
• 'Rice is the next crop being produced "...crop, cultivated in..."
• and correspondingly, with the highest volume of production Why "correspondingly"? Does the use of this type of crops ensure a large volume? BTW it should read "have" not "with". — The first part of sentence indicates that the towns mentioned have the greatest areas planted with root crops, hence, their production volume is highest in the province. — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 09:52, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
• is surrounded by bodies of water "by water on all sides" is better
• Only two sources for this section? Can we have more? — Not much published sources about Romblon's economy. — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 09:52, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Tourism

• six-meter wide volcanic , which drops for 20 meters, depth of 32 to 40 meters Convert
• Every second week of January Does this mean every year in the 2nd week of January or every 2nd week (the 2nd and 4th weeks) in January every year?
• image of the Santo Niño Who is Santo Niño? Mentioned earlier?

Government

• The incumbent governor of Romblon is Add "As of April 2016" at the start
• As of 2013, the incumbent board members No more recent info available? — Elections are this May 9, this may still change. — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 09:52, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Infrastructure

• a total length of 311.046 kilometers. Provincial roads, meanwhile, total 239.005 kilomters in length The second "km" is a typo, use convert templates please
• Barangay Azagra, San Fernando, Sibuyan Island No "and" before Sibuyan?

Education

• It is composed of 13 districts, where there are 228 elementary schools, 216 of which are public and 12 are private Why are districts combined with schools in this line? The "13 districts" part should be in the section Administrative divisions. — In the Philippines, school districts are different from administrative divisions of a municipality or town. — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 09:52, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
• Sta.Fe, "Sta. Fe"?

Suggestion: Not a must for GA status and not a deficiency, but a copyedit would be in order if you wish to develop the article further.

@Lawrence ruiz: That should be all. You there? Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 09:07, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, Sainsf. I was just busy with work these past few weeks, but I will apply these changes and suggestions soon. Thank you. — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 09:04, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

@Lawrence ruiz: I am sorry but if there's been no activity here since 6 days. The review can't go on for long without any response. If there is no activity from your side on this in the next 3 days, I will be forced to fail this nomination. If you are busy, it would be better to fix these issues and renominate this when you have more time. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 04:44, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

@Sainsf: Hi, actually Sanglahi86 already applied the changes to the article based on your recommendations, and I also made a few revisions myself just now. Just ping me if you still found glaring mistakes after your review. Thanks for your patience. — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 05:50, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

@Sanglahi86: and @Lawrence ruiz: Thanks for all the changes, did not notice them as the article was not on my watchlist. There are a few issues remaining, I am striking out the resolved ones.

• Please fix these dablinks.
• Duplinks are still prominent.
• I feel we should improve the lead a bit further; at the moment it seems to be focusing a bit too much on the history of the island, it should reflect most of the important aspects of the article. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 06:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

I answered some of your questions, Sainsf. I am currently at work so I can't proofread and copyedit extensively. Thanks. — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 09:52, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Alright, just keep responding regularly so that this review does not have to be closed due to inactivity. Thanks. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 10:08, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

@Lawrence ruiz: Any more improvements? We have not worked here since 3 days... Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 11:20, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

@Sainsf: Hi! I expanded the lead and added more info in it, as well as spelled out the percent signs on the text (except for those that are part of data tables). I don't know how to use the tool though for removing duplinks. — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 04:16, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

@Lawrence ruiz: Thanks for the fixes, but I am afraid I am far too busy to fix such a large number of duplinks myself. I would suggest you to take your time understanding how the tool works; it is really very simple, just read the instructions on the page and sweep out those extra links. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 04:22, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

@Sainsf: Hello again! I've removed the duplinks using the tool you provided. Big help! Thanks! — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 06:06, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

@Lawrence ruiz: Great! Just one issue more, you expanded the lead but forgot adding links. Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 08:38, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

@Sainsf: Hello again! Links have been provided in the lead. — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 09:25, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

@Lawrence ruiz: Very well, this article is promoted! Cheers, Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 09:31, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

@Sainsf: Thank you so much for the review and suggestions! The province of Romblon owes you a lot! — Lawrence Ruiz (talk) 09:40, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

@Lawrence ruiz: I am overwhelmed! Sainsf <^>_{Feel at home} 09:42, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

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