Talk:Thunderbolt

Existance

I hate to break it to you, but it is a "thunderbolt" of lightning, since it is what causes the "clap" of thunder. There is no thunder, without a lightning bolt. Just because Pokemon calls it something different, does not make it wrong elsewhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.242.126 (talk) 01:55, 11 March 2011 (UTC) There is no such thing as a thunderbolt. Thunder is the noise that is created by a bolt of lightning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.243.176 (talk • contribs) 10:08, 2 December 2010

I don't agree with you if Zeus pulled the thunderbolt in half and fast put them together again it would cause ground shaking noises and damage therefore the thunderbolt made a thunderclap 80.111.247.5 (talk) 21:09, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Quite right. The article shouldn't claim to the contrary. Does it do so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wetman (talk • contribs) 21:20, 5 March 2011

Thunderbolt (interface)

Thunderbolt Technology should be found if i use the search term "Thunderbolt", but i don't know how to do that. Here it is now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbolt_%28interface%29 Hardzsi (talk) 08:41, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

It's now listed as part of the dablink. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 06:03, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Although someone removed it after I had added it in.

Between good-faith additions of the IO port and the cell phone, I'm wondering if a better solution is to just rename this article to Thunderbolt (heraldry), then move the disambig to be the primary page for the term. Any opinions or comments on the possible moves? --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 21:01, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

No, a mistaken premise: Thunderbolt Technology, if it were notable, would be found if you searched "Thunderbolt Technology". It doesn't need an unpaid advertisement here. Wikipedia isn't a business directory. Think of Wikipedia as a readers' guide. The reader needn't be given a runaround through disambiguations that aren't required. --Wetman (talk) 21:20, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles should point to the primary topic that readers are wanting when they search for a term, and if no primary topic can be determined, per WP:DAB the page should be a disambiguation page.

The argument can be made, based on the first several pages of results when searching for "Thunderbolt" on Google, that the primary topic for the term is split between Thunderbolt (interface) and HTC Thunderbolt. If neither can be established as being a more likely target, then the disambig is a reasonable alternative. Regardless - it seems that the current default page is not the most likely intended target when readers search for the term. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 22:16, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Suggested move

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus to move. --rgpk (comment) 10:38, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Thunderbolt → Thunderbolt (symbol) — Per WP:DAB, to make room for disambiguation, as no topic appears to be the primary topic. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 19:37, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Based upon the above comments, I'm opening a discussion on a possible move, which would comprise of the following:

• Move Thunderbolt to either Thunderbolt (symbol) or Thunderbolt (heraldry) (or some other agreed target)
• Move Thunderbolt (disambiguation) to Thunderbolt

Per WP:DAB the primary article page should be determined based upon the primary topic which is "the subject being sought when a reader enters that ambiguous term in the Search box ... If there is no primary topic, the ambiguous term should be the title of a disambiguation page".

In the case of "Thunderbolt", I believe the most likely intended targets of the term when keyed are either Thunderbolt (interface) and HTC Thunderbolt. This is supported by searching for "Thunderbolt" on Google, where the results of the first several pages of results are primarilly split between these two topics. As neither appears to be primary, but both are far more likely intended search targets than the current page, I suggest instead using the disambiguation page as the landing page. --- Barek (talk) - 17:43, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Note: this discussion has been linked from both Thunderbolt (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch and Thunderbolt (disambiguation) (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch. --- Barek (talk) - 17:45, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

• Do Not Move - This is the definition of thunderbolt with many examples. It is based in many religions. I agree with Wetman. Your topics derive their names from this premise.--Degen Earthfast (talk) 19:15, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a Wikipedia policy or guideline to support leaving it? Wikipedia is not a dictionary, it is an encyclopedia. Per WP:DAB, the primary article should be the primary topic which users are seeking when they enter the term. It's quite clear that the current definition is not the primary topic. However, the two potential topics do not appear to have any one being more "primary" than the other - which is why I recommend switching to using the disambig as the primary article. The renamed version of this article, as well as the other topics would then be linked directly from the disambiguation. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 19:30, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Note: The {{move}} template has been added to the top of this section, to add a listing at Wikipedia:Requested moves#Current discussions. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 19:37, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

• Move - I erroneously ended up on this page while looking for Thunderbolt (interface). So, in my experience, the reasoning behind the proposed move is spot on. The disambig page would have gotten me a lot closer to what I was searching for. As for what this article should be renamed to, I can't say. --Miken2005 (talk) 03:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose. Clear primary meaning. Andrewa (talk) 03:16, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

How are you determining this to be primary? If this were a dictionary (or Wiktionary), then I would agree; but as an encyclopedia, then any objective source that I can find for what would be the primary topic being sought by people entering the term would be either Thunderbolt (interface) or HTC Thunderbolt. Both are much more likely intended targets than the current page. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 04:22, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

• Move it. — Fourthords | =/\= | 20:50, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
• Agree, move it - Rationale: you and I can both agree that Thunderbolt is the original or the core meaning of the word. However, other people are stoopid, and there's no point in not helping those people find things. Things get superseeded all the time - adapt. Katana (talk) 15:14, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

• Move - for same reason as given by Miken2005. If, as expected, this interface becomes more common then this is going to become more of a problem in the future. Pedantic of Purley (talk) 13:02, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

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• Move - came to the Thunderbolt page looking for Thunderbolt (interface). The interface is in the news more, and is more likely to be what people are trying to find when looking things up on wikipedia. 69.80.103.81 (talk) 21:07, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

• Move - same reason as above I was looking for Thunderbolt (Interface)•martyx• tkctgy 12:07, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

This is much the same as Android which has a disamb page as now two main categories exist (those being robot and operating system) •martyx• tkctgy 10:19, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

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Expanding on the history and parallels?

Storm gods typically have many more elements than just controlling thunder, lightning and holding a weapon of power. They are typically the core of their respective mythologies and really often involve a myth where they defeat a dragon or snake monster. It's a really common motif. (Examples: Zeus and Typhon (Greek), Thor and Jormungandr (Sandinavia), Perun and Veles (Slavic), Indra vs Vritra (Hindu), possibly Teshub and Hedammu (Hittite)...) And Western Indo-European thunder gods also seem to stem from a common god. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perkwunos)

Is this something that should be on the page and tie the thunder gods together even more, or is it unnecessary? 2A00:EE2:907:FF00:C66:10B:AC11:D7FC (talk) 20:22, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

thunderbolt

Thunderbolt is a sacred symbol in Greek and Roman mythology and beliefs, the word must be cherished within the context of those civilization and their heirs.

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Yaldirim

Thunderbolt is not Yaldirim!

I'm pretty sure that Allah does not know what a Thunderbolt is!

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frequency attack

Thunderbolt is a frequency attack weapon according to my understanding of Physics and applied mathematics.

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