Grin

Hello there!

If you have anything to comment on my dangerous existence feel free to do it below. I can't promise a rapid answer, but I'll check in from time to time.

Old Talk

Hey Grin! I got a sugestion... Go to www.sapo.pt, follow the link genealogia (in the side bar) and you will find a GOTHA BOOK online, very detailed. Thing is that is in portuguese (it rimes!). But somewhere there is a dicionary and princesa is not so different to princess. Muriel Gottrop

Thanks. I actually checked plenty of genealogies before editing ( http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?hungary being one of the most detailed and accurate ) and there are conflicting data all over, even in reliable sources (like the Pallas Encyclopedia, which is one of the largest one in the history of Hungary).

Interesting problem for example Henry II, Duke of Bavaria who is referenced as the Quarrelsome in the 30%, and the Wrangler in the rest of the references (in contrast of Henry I, Duke of Bavaria, who is referenced just the opposite).

I see you are interested in Hungary. Check the FEMALE descendancy of Princess Ana (died ca1547), married to Ferdinand the Roman Emperor, and... surprise! EVERYBODY (royal houses, i mean) comes from her or her daughters! Muriel

Being a Hungarian may possibly translated as "being interested in Hungary" :-). Checking the family trees are interesting anyway: one grandchild of St. Stephen (St. Cunigunda of Luxembourg, daughter of Hedwig, daughter of Stephan I) married into the German Royal family, and her child (or some other descendants, I can't recall now) is into the English Royal family and from then pretty much of the german and english royals were descendants of them. [Anne of Bohemia maybe isn't the best example since the "original" royal family of Hungary (called the House of Árpád) died out in 1301. But then again, who can tell who was "Hungarian king" anyway.] I'm sure Europe's history was that interconnected, so we can't really say "we're 100% spanish origin" or like because nations' leaders made their kids marry other kings and princes from Europe. We've been already united, around or before 1000AD! :-) grin 09:21 19 May 2003 (UTC)

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Ok, how about I comment inbetween the intro and the sig? Anyway, hello there. I'm also from Hungary, so I have no idea why I'm talking to you in English in the first place, but anyway, I wonder if you'd want a little summer job and we'd do something about WP's Hungarian version?
-- Ralesk 21:34 18 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I keep the discussion English to make it possible for others to understand it.

Hello Ralesk! First please read the intlwiki-l mail archieve because I already asked/discussed this with Brion and he told me that the conversion needs some time. I want to contact the guy making the dumps to give me the actual hungarian dump, then I hope I can either do some rudimentary conversion and provide it to Brion to create the hunipedia and let it start rocking or I'll ask him (in case of failing to get the dump) to start it from the scratch. My email is grin (kukac) grin (pötty) hu, if you need to contact me in the meantime.

Since Brion is dewikipediated till 23 jun I believe this won't be resolved before that date. Let's see whether I can get the dump until then! --grin 07:43 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Progress update: I got the dump of old HU, it is crap. I asked Brion to install a new one. Until then see m:user:grin for translation information. Basically I started to translate the php, and doing it in small chunks (time constraints...)... -- grin 09:53 4 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Progress update: It works now. Go and update!

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INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK

... To err is human, to fix is divine

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igen. nem tudom, hogy igy kell-e valaszolni. nem ismerem jol a rendszert.

szia, PeterFoldiak

Szia! Igen, igy is lehet valaszolni, vagy email a grin kukac tolna.net-re. A lenyeg: nezd meg a http://hu.wikipedia.org/ cimet, illetve ott a grin usert. De most ket hetig szabin leszek, ugyhogy addig nem tudok segiteni; de ha kerdesed van (barmi!) akkor ott a grin user vitalapjan (vagy ha egyszerubb, akkor itt) tedd fel, es valaszolni fogok ra. --grin 10:43 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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Hello. I'm from Japanese Wikipedia. I saw your message at talk:Main_Page (well, Japanese equivalent of that) [1]. As a responce to your message, some have already created a page ja:Wikipedia:Contact_us_for_non-japanese-speakers. Please feel free to inform us of your problems in detail.

If communicating to him is a problem, I can think of a following:

• You would tell us a message to the IP user.
• We translate it on japanese wikipedia.
• You would block the user, with the message "kochira wo goran kudasai: (+URL)" meaning "please take a look at this."
• For the URL part, you can point to the page on Japanese Wikipedia where the message to the user is shown (in Japanese), and where the user can possibly reply.

Or you may have a better idea. I am even not sure about the nature and scope of the problem. (From the few edits I checked, it seems that the IP user was working only on interwiki linking.)

Regards, Tomos 08:29, 25 Jan 2004 (UTC)

reply on User_talk:Tomos

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Hi. Your English is great, just a little alien-sounding, that's all. And it's a lot better than my Hungarian. Deb 17:52, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thanks. :-) It's probaby because I am lazy to look the perfect word up, so I write something with other words and leave to fine people to make it perfect. And I am an alien, you know. --grin 08:28, 27 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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Grin;

Has the vandalism over yet? Just in case you have not heard of it, here is a new feature that I found would be helpful for your situation. meta:Range blocks

Best,

Tomos 19:55, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Nothing bad happened since then, thanks. Range blocks are nice, thanks, too. --grin 12:15, 2004 Mar 1 (UTC)

Good to hear. Vandals are usually less persistent than wikipedians. :-) Tomos

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Press Release

I see you contributed to the creation of the press release. Might you be willing to follow these steps, and send off the press release? -- user:zanimum

It still needs finalizing, I didn't have the time, and not much anyone else contributes. :-/ As soon as I'm confident it's ready I'll send it out to national press. --grin 21:42, 2004 Mar 6 (UTC)

X SAMPA

Well I did all the uploading by hand on en. I have all the files here on my computer so it wouldn't be hard for me to upload them to hu... (and nowhere near as time consuming as making the blooming things was!) you'd need to tell me what to put in the edit summary though. Something like "IPA symbol from w:en:Image:Ipa-chart-all-1000px.png. Original image drawn by w:en:User:Nohat." and whatever msg you use to say they're GFDL. fabiform | talk 14:21, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Your user name makes me imagine you grinning evilly after every comment you make... I'm going to trust that you're not making me say "user:fabiform is an idiot" on a hundred or so edit summaries.  ;) fabiform | talk 17:24, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

All done. A couple of the diacretics have "or" written on the images though, which you might want to modify. fabiform | talk 21:33, 11 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I'll fix the 'or' pages and the text in general. --grin 19:26, 2004 Mar 13 (UTC)

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Grin: I created a redirect at Computer Engineer pointing to Computer engineering, since your link above on this page was broken... ;) —Tkinias 22:43, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks! :-) --g

Huh?

Hi. Your User page reads:

timwi inserts these [1 E10 m²|93,030 km²]]

What does that mean? — Timwi 14:58, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

:-) Yes, he does indeed. You have changed lots of /sup/2\sup\ to that, and I was surprised that they worked, and then I realised that it is indeed a part of the iso-8859-1, so doesn't break on en:, so I recorded it for myself. :-) --grin 12:17, 2004 Apr 5 (UTC)

hu-interwiki link on german wiki

Hi,

you requested an interwiki link to hu on the german main page. The german wiki had an voting on this links and decided to not have them on the main page at all. Only with the change to monobook some where allowed to return. The criteria seems to be, that wikis with more than 10000 arcticles are allowed to be interwikilinked on the main page. So, if you want to have a link to hu, you only need to write 10000 articles in the hungarian wiki. --195.93.73.7 07:13, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The policy has changed, now also small languages of special interest to German readers are allowed. There are links to Turkish, Kurdish, Slovenian, Russian and others. Surely there should also be a link to Hungarian, due to the close ties between Hungary and the German-speaking world. 83.109.182.10 14:19, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Fundraising banner on hu:

Dear grin,

Please translate the fundraising banner notice on hu: into Hungarian. That is, translate the following text:

To help support Wikipedia, please visit 
<a href="http://wikimediafoundation.org/fundraising">the 
fundraising page</a>, or read about <a 
href="http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/What_we_use_the_money_for">what 
we use the money for</a>.

and edit it into the blank template at this URL: http://hu.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=MediaWiki:Fundraising_notice&action=edit

Thank you. +sj+ 10:25, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

You're welcome. --grin ✎ 15:01, 2004 Jul 16 (UTC)

Your message on the pump

about latin templates. It is something related to internationalization of the taxoboxes, I believe. Basically it is supposed to be that you could copy and paste the taxobox from one language wikipedia to another without changing it, because the template would be filled in differently in each language... please ask at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Tree of Life if you want to know more. Pcb21| Pete 23:22, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Petzval

So by chance I've found an Hungarian editor! I'd like to ask for help on Jozef Maximilián Petzval (and de:Josef Maximilian Petzval). Some mathematican has to fill out more about his achievements there, but the interseting fact is, that I've found (only) one reference on the WWW, that After graduating from the University Petzval was appointed to the city of Pest as an expert in flood prevention and drainage. He undertook this work for seven years and showed reals talents in his job [2]. I've found this quite remarkable, but giving the spare source material I've found, I'd like to ask for some details or just a confirmation. Perhaps you or someone you know can locate a source in Hungarian and give a short english summary? Pjacobi 09:45, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Interesting. I check and notify our maths-maniac editor about this quest. :-) I'll report back if I find something. Nag me if I forget it. :) --grin ✎ 18:06, 2004 Jul 27 (UTC)

Umm.... sorry

Sorry about the message in cleanup... I can alter this if you'd like. I guess all I can say is: your English is better than my Hungarian! And Chinese and Japanese and French and... well, you get what I mean :-) - Ta bu shi da yu 10:34, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

No offense taken (after the first 5 seconds). :) Just keep in mind that many of us aren't native English but trying hard to spel :)) Thanks again for fixing. --grin ✎ 22:54, 2004 Jul 30 (UTC)

hun <--> eng

http://tranexp.com:2000/

Thanks, but it's only good for providing fellow editors a good laugh. The results range from terrible to incomprehensible. --grin ✎ 19:49, 2004 Nov 9 (UTC)

Beloruski

Hello I was looking at user:Rydell's talkpage and saw that he is trying to do the same in the Hungarian wikipedia as he is trying to do in the Dutch. Change his country's name. Waerth 09:44, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I suspect so. His reasons are good, and we voted about it, and got an ambiguous result... yet to be decided. --grin ✎ 21:30, 2004 Nov 17 (UTC)

Crap deleted.

Stop polluting my pages, stupid people. You both have userpages, pick one and discuss there! --grin ✎ 17:33, 2004 Nov 19 (UTC)

Bocsánat, grin. I moved the stuff to my talk page. --rydel 23:00, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Bautzen

was it you on my (Sicherlich) talk page? if not forget this here ;) ... I uploaded the sound-file on commons .. so every wikipedia can use it .. if an wikipedia does not want it it can be removed by the wiki-principle ...i dont have any personal emotions with this file. for the "or 2 words out of 1000 as random pick isn't really useful" .. i cant agree .. that´s the wikipedia way .. someone starts somewhere .. if there is a guideline i have missed it so far ;o)... Sicherlich 23:07, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

That's why I signed. :) I understand, but do you plan to provide every pronounciation of every possible german words on every wikipedia? Apart from that (which is basically nitpicking and thus not nice of me) I believe you should concentrate on "hard" words, which have unusual pronounciation and they're more or less relevant. I am not sure "Bautzen" is such relevant word, probably most people would try to spell "Schubert" or "Geothe" (and fail) earlier than "Bautzen" :-) But generally Hungarians aren't problematic. Still, no harm done, we removed the link since we did not really plan to do that, but the idea is interesting anyway, so maybe I'll put it back (but in a section at the end, as "misc information"). So, summarizing: thank you for the link! :-) --grin ✎ 09:28, 2004 Nov 21 (UTC)

arb

Contributing: Ambi, Ed Poor aka Uncle Ed, Fennec, The Cunctator, Theresa knott

Screenshots

Hi. It seems, screenshots are usually fair use ([3]), and screenshots from microsoft cannot be modified ([4]). I added the screenshot tags on te commons again. -- Chris 73 Talk 00:02, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

Sorry for being picky about this, and I am not a legal expert, but wouldn't the operating system be a software, which would be copyright to Commodore International? I am pretty sure that microsoft considers its windows and MS-Dos operating systems copyrighted. (see [5]). Personally, I think only screenshots of free programs can be used at the commons, i.e. Linux, Firefox, or OpenOffice.org, which would be licensed as GFDL. Maybe we should put this issue on the village pump at the commons. Also thanks for creating the commons:Template:Free screenshot, which I will use for GFDL/PD software. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:27, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

• You seen my comment about fair use and commons: they're not "allowed", so it's right that "fair use" should be removed, but we needed the distinction between "fair use screenshots" and "free screenshots".
• Your question is good, but I believe it doesn't apply to most of the cases. If the screenshot is about the OS then the owner of the OS can (and probably will) complain. If the screenshot is about a program (for example the most common case is when the screen isn't wholly visible, or there are not OS specific features on it) then I do not believe that the OS creators have anything to claim about the picture. On that particular C64 image there is basically nothing from the OS (unless you count that combination of border and background color part of the OS, which is by my reckoning would be ridiculous, unpatentable and uncopyrightable) and the picture shows a free program only, so I am reasonably sure that such pictures are okay.

Good example of the above can be any screenshot of FireFox on windoze. I'd say that if there's only FireFox visible (with window decorations), or if it's not the capture of the whole screen containing windoze OS parts (start button and panel, etc) then it's free and micro$oft have zero rights on that. If you would capture their program (office) or the windoze desktop, then it is probably their ©opyright violation. If you make a full screen shot with FireFox in the middle and all the windoze cruft around it, well, it's probably better not to tag it as free, or even better to cut away the micro$hit parts.

In case of an OS without visual hints (like C=64) I don't think it's a question. ;-)

But feel free to ask around, especially on wikipedia-legal. --grin ✎ 16:59, 2004 Nov 30 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

• Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
• Multi-Licensing Guide
• Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

It's back again!

The fake Hephaestos account from Magyar Wikipedia, Hephaestos Dies. This time it seems to have been different or something because I saw to fake pictures of him. -- Mike Garica 04:53, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hungary

of course! it's a lovely country. I was being comically imagining there would be wanted-posters with my face plastered all over Budapest train station :o) Anyway, this RfC is leading nowhere, and I'm putting it on WP:RFAr. regards, dab (ᛏ) 12:02, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

btw, I do think afu is Hungarian, although expatriate (I used to think he was Maracz himself, but that's unlikely, because he seems to be fluent in German, but is not active on nl:. I suppose he is a native speaker of Hungarian, with a good knowledge of English, and at least a working knowledge of German). re arbitration, I may have to drudge through mediation, judging from the arbitrators' comments. It's all very silly and a sad waste of time, but I suppose I can't just walk away now. dab (ᛏ) 10:54, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I suppose such ardent nationalism in expatriates is quite a common phenomenon. I think it is akin to an effect in religion, viz. that e.g. the most militant muslims are almost invariably from areas where muslims are a minority: it is an effect of feeling beleaguered or marginalized. I am now quite interested in the topic, and I wonder how appropriate Ruhlen's description of "wild unfettered Romanticism" in 19th century Hungary really is (Finno-Ugric_languages#History). Evidently, a fair number of are still stuck in this 1800s mindset... dab (ᛏ) 11:55, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Belarus

Congratulations on making the first successful clone. ;) After you added the Hungarian link, Belarus page somehow cloned itself. I tried to remove that, but it still shows two copies. I wonder how we can fix that. --rydel 14:35, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Re: hu.wp logo

The change looks good, as does the test. --Zigger 17:47, 2005 Jan 24 (UTC)

interwikiconflict

• Please see information about eo:Aborigeno - ru:Абориген conflict. Best regards Gangleri | Th | T 20:22, 2005 Mar 15 (UTC)

User catagorization

You were listed in the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Hungary page as living in or being associated with Hungary. As part of the Wikipedia:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in Hungary for instructions. JesseW 22:14, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

GrinBot

I have approved your bot to run a trial run of one week. Please continue to run your bot until someone cites a complaint about it. If a complaint is made, please stop your bot, resolve the issue, and note it at Wikipedia talk:Bots. Thank you. --AllyUnion (talk) 06:12, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Acknowledged. Thanks. --grin ✎ 16:16, 2005 September 2 (UTC)

GrinBot messing up interwikis

Hi Grin. Thanks for running your interwiki bot, but it's been causing a few problems with its deprecated interwiki syntax. For example, see this edit where a link is added to nb:. The code for the Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia is no:, and nb: links just point to no:, so that page ends up with two links to the same page. I don't think there's any reason to use nb: at all these days. Another problem, as in this edit is the addition of deprecated minnan: links. This was the old code for the Min Nan Wikipedia, and unlike the no:/nb: issue, minnan: doesn't even work any more, instead leaving a mess at the bottom of the page. The correct code is zh-min-nan:, and in that example such a link was already present, but the bot failed to notice it and added the wrong syntax anyway. There seem to be a couple of other issues, such as this strange edit. I don't know if that was a MediaWiki attribution error or some kind of edit conflict or what. I'm not sure why your bot is doing these things but they do need to be cleared up. Thanks. — Trilobite 19:16, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, I'll look into the mentioned issues, and unless I figure out why these irregularities happen GrinBot won't update the links. --grin ✎ 12:31, 2005 September 12 (UTC)

The issue with nb and minnan has been resolved now. The 'strange error' you mention is more problematic. As far as I can judge, it happens when the same bot is being run twice on overlapping pages. What then can happen is this:

1. The bot (run A) loads the page
2. The bot (run B) loads the page
3. Someone else edits the page
4. The bot (run A) tries to save the page. The Mediawiki software notices that there is an edit conflict and resolves it. The changes of the other person and the bot get merged correctly.
5. The bot (run B) tries to save the page. For some reason the Mediawiki software now does NOT notice that there is an edit conflict. The version of the page submitted by bot B is put on the page, which means that bot B is now reverting the other person's edit.

I will be making a bug report on Bugzilla, and warn the bot users about this problem, advising them to avoid running the bot twice unless they know the two copies won't edit the same page. - Andre Engels 22:00, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I will not run more than one instance anyway. Seems to be ok now. --grin ✎ 22:51, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Hi grin. I got your message about the fixing of the bot. As far as I can see from my very brief inspection it is working fine now. Thanks a lot. — Trilobite 22:31, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

science pearls

Hi Grin, What do you think of this summary?

The science pearls project is an effort to identify to notable publications in biology, physics and other areas. Its final goal is help learning about the height science had reached and to allow access to the publications that led him to them. Your contribution is welcomed. APH from the English wiki

APH 08:51, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Done, insterted. --grin ✎ 19:44, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. APH 07:44, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

New Engineering Wiki

[http://engineering.wikicities.com/wiki/Main_Page Engineering Wiki] is a wiki entirely dedicated to collecting information about Engineering. I invite you to join this wiki.

RfC against 86.105.71.34

Hi Grin,

I'm putting together an RfC against anonymous user 86.105.71.34, who I think has engaged in several types of misconducts on Wikipedia, especially on Transylvania, Romania, Republic of Moldova, Romanian language. I'm writing to you because you attempted to solve one or more of those issues on the user's talk page. If you endorse this RfC, or have anything to add to the statement of dispute, please sign and share your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/86.105.71.34. Thanks, IulianU 00:05, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Grin, could you weigh in at Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/86.105.71.34#How_to_proceed? -- Jmabel | Talk 18:42, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

RE:Why did you break the link?

Twas an accident (I think the links were not working before I changed them, but they were broken after I messed with them too). It has already been fixed. Broken S 21:30, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Your bot

Your bot removed an image of Mehmed II. Great! Now what? Where do we find another image of Mehmed? Sure, there was no info on its copyright status, but big deal! --Anittas 23:58, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Answer on your talk page. --grin ✎ 10:46, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Dog

Just an FYI - Your bot changed the think on Dog from simple:Dog link to be simple:Little doggie smell my shit. oops. :) - Trysha ^(talk) 22:52, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Answer on the talk page. --grin ✎ 10:46, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Mehmed II

This is what I meant: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mehmed_II&diff=31813995&oldid=31667580 --Anittas 11:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Ugh, oops, sorry! :p --Anittas 13:59, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Fellow Hungarian contributor

Hello. I'm Hungarian as well, and you might remember me from the Hungarian WP. I would appreciate it if you added me to your Hungarian editor list — I don't want to mercilessly edit user-run pages :) I can translate as well, although in the past year-and-a-half, I've not been terribly active. I intend to change that, however! hu: Helló. Tegeződhetünk? Én is magyar vagyok és talán emlékszel is rám a magyar WP-ből. Szeretném ha hozzáadnál a magyar szerkesztők listájához — nem akartam könyörtelenül beleszerkeszteni az oldaladba :) Fordítani is tudok; igaz a múlt másfél évben nem voltam túl aktív. De ezen szeretnék változtatni! —UED77 03:51, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Broken bot

Hi, could you fix your bot; in some cases it adds erroneus interwiki links. For example, see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Braga&action=history. Grinbot should not have re-added the es: link which I had removed earlier (the articles are not about the same city). I also had earlier removed the link from the es: article pointing to the en: article, so that should not have caused the bot to do that. --Jonik 18:15, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. Very unfortunately the bot is not broken (see talk:braga), but the human inserted link is. Reverting it would require efforts, I try to help but cannot promise anything. --grin ✎ 10:17, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Erbium

Similarly, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Erbium&diff=prev&oldid=52779511 The bad backlink to en:erbium at no:ER was removed some time ago, shouldn't the bot stop adding this? Femto 10:55, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

No. [Un]Fortunately the bot cannot remove a language, only replace it if it has been corrected. The norwegian link was propagated from somewhere, but it was simply removed and not replaced, and it was not removed from all wikipedias. This won't work.

Either someone removes every bad iw link from every language, or replace it with a proper one, otherwise the bad link simply gets propagated back as you may have noticed. I removed it from huwp, but it is going to be repropagated from other languages. If there is a correct norwegian link it should be used. --grin ✎ 21:26, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Aw, I hoped it was some kind of database lag from a changed link something. Then another bot added it again after yours. I would classify it as a genuine bug (or, feature); is this issue known by the developers of the bot? Things would be easier to fix if there were backlinks in the edit summary to the pages that cause a new inclusion, for example. No, there is no norwegian link, yet, but I know the right people to ask. Femto 11:37, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately this is a much more complex problem: the bot is correct.

First: it must not remove links, since it's just a bot so can't tell whether the link was _bad_ or just omitted.

Then the bots (any of them) going to readd it no matter what since it is there somewhere, until it has been removed from all referenced articles in every language, which I just cannot do with the current software. (I have asked the guys to create a module for that, and I just remined them again but I wouldn't hold my breath.)

Edit summary cannot reflect the source of the backlink since the bot gathers sometimes _hundreds_ of backlinks for every article which would not really fit, and the gather process is not linear anyway. The bad pages can be found but I yet to find a method to fix them fast, as going manually around is very tiresome.

Just for the curious, the current screwup to be fixed at:

WARNING: wikipedia: [[lt:Erbis]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[cs:Erbium]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[th:เออร์เบียม]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[pl:Erb]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[ja:エルビウム]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[nl:Erbium]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[pt:Érbio]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[io:Erbio]] does not link to [[cs:Erbium]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[zh:铒]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[eo:Erbio]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[el:Έρβιο]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[es:Erbio]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[et:Erbium]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[ca:Erbi]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[it:Erbio]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[sl:Erbij]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[sr:Ербијум]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[sv:Erbium]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[ko:어븀]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[he:ארביום]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[fr:Erbium]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[de:Erbium]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]
WARNING: wikipedia: [[uk:Ербій]] links to incorrect [[no:ER]]

• sigh* --grin ✎ 12:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Now we're talking. Removed them (all, I hope). Femto 13:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Did you do it manually or by some, well, OtherMeans? Just asking because this is just an example of the problem, there were indications of bad links from time to time. I can gather such lists, but only semi-automatically, if the bad link is provided. --grin ✎ 13:23, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, just a combination of tabbed browsing and supersonic mouse shoving abilities. =) Femto 14:14, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

The chemistry article no:Erbium does not yet exist, and who knows when it may exist. The disambiguation page no:ER was created 03-mar-2006 [6]. From day 1 it contained, per usual, an interwiki link to the disambiguation page en:ER. The back link was added 12-apr-2006 [7]. However, from day 2 of the no:ER article, bots added interwiki links to various Erbium articles and back. I tried to prevent it, but it didn't stop until the above mentioned supersonic mouse shoving.
Bots may have developed since this, but shouldn't bots anyway spot conflicts while making interwiki links and ask the operator, e.g. "Master, should I really replace the link from no:ER to en:ER with a link to en:Erbium?" I realize that robots perform as programmed, but I thought the detection of conflicts was one of the main check points of interwiki bots, so that this type of incorrect links should not have been propagated. Where is (was) the fault? --Eddi (Talk) 21:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Grinbot Interwikis

I'm helping Bluemoose develop the AutoWikiBrowser, a semi-automated non-bot, and one its functions is to alphabetize interwiki links. I noticed in this edit that the Grinbot alphatzies as follows: af, ar, an, ast, bg, be, bs... Shouldn't "ar" go after "an" since n comes before r in the alphabet (the same with bg and be)? The AWB alphabetizes in alphabetical order, instead (e.g., af, an, ar...). Is there any reason why the GrinBot does not, and, if there is, do you suggest that the AWB should do the same? — MATHWIZ2020 ^{TALK | CONTRIBS}

The code says en: uses alphabetical order by native language names, as follows:

       self.alphabetic = [
           'aa','ab','af','als','am','ang','ar','an','roa-rup','as','arc','ast','av','ay',
           'az','bg','bm','minnan','zh-min-nan','ba','be','bn','bh','bi','bo',
           'bs','br','ca','ceb','cv','ch','chr','ny','sn','cho','co','cs','cy','da','de',
           'dv','dz','et','el','en','es','eo','eu','ee','fa','fo','fj','fr',
           'fy','ff','fur','ga','gv','gd','gl','got','gn','gu','ko','ht','ha','haw',
           'hy','hi','hr','io','ik','ilo','id','ia','ie','iu','xh','zu','is','it','he',
           'jv','kl','kn','ka','kap','kk','csb','ks','kw','km','ky','rn','sw','ku',
           'lad','lo','la','lv','lt','lb','li','ln','jbo','lg','lmo','hu','mk','mg',
           'ml','mt','mi','mr','ms','mn','mo','mus','my','nah','na','nv','nap','ng',
           'nl','cr','ne','nds','ja','pih','no','nb','nn','oc','or','om','os','ug',
           'pi','ps','nds','pl','pt','pa','ro','rm','qu','ru','se','sm','sa','sg',
           'sc','sco','st','sq','sh','scn','si','simple','sd','ss','sk','sl','sr',
           'su','fi','sv','tl','tg','ta','tt','te','th','ti','tlh','vi',
           'tokipona','tpi','to','ts','tk','tum','tr','tw','udm','bug','uk','ur',
           'ug','uz','ve','vec','vo','wa','war','wo','ts','yi','yo','za','zh',
           'zh-cn','zh-tw']

I cannot advice for or against it, but pywikipediabot usually tries to follow local wikipedia conventions, so I would assume this is the correct behaviour. If you need further advices from the code (like many local wikis using revised order, or english first order, or something completely different which suits that language better) either check pywikipediabot or tell me and I'll send over the code fragments to you. --grin ✎ 10:24, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

See here, where the decision was that interwiki links are best sorted alphabetically by the code, which is usually taken from ISO 3166-2. The problem is that there is no standard collation order when names are even in the same alphabet (some languages sort diacritics differently, see here), never mind when some are in different alphabet. HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 10:39, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

The same here. I sorted the interwiki links for identity matrix (and added an LV link) but the User:GrinBot mixed them back. :\ --Knakts 10:54, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Sig

Any reason your signature links to [[grin]] instead of [[User:Grin|grin]]? By the way no need to notify, I usually watch talk pages. Femto 15:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh. Thanks. --grin ✎ 00:05, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Bot and Language

In watching cartography I see that your bot added a link to scn:Cartugrafìa. It's a hidden link, I guess. What purpose does it serve, where can I read more about it, and why have it if we can't see it? They're all noob questions, I know, but hey, I am what I am. Scoutersig 04:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Your bot messed up several year articles by moving the interwiki links between the angle brackets of a noinclude tag. For example, see this and this. --Bkkbrad 20:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Survey Q

Have you ever been to the Southern Hemisphere? Reply here. Deadline for entries is December 15th, PST.AstroBoy 04:00, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Interwiki bot

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Bot activity

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Usurp confirmation

I hereby confirm usurpation request on

   * fi.wikipedia.org
   * fr.wikipedia.org
   * ru.wikipedia.org
   * ru.wikiquote.org
   * sh.wikipedia.org

of old "grin" account in preparation for SUL. I strikeout already finished usurpations. Thanks. --grin ✎ 20:48, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Please do not harrass wikipedians.

@Eklir (d). With all due respect I'd like to request you to avoid harrassing fellow wikipedians. Using English is preferred but it is not forbidden to use foreign language in comments and talk pages, per the page Tomas_e were kind to link to. Please read it again, and be so kind as to notice the difference between "good practice" and "unacceptable behaviour", and please keep in mind that nobody have the right to force anyone to use "better practices" here around. Reverting comments without a proper reason happens to fall into that category.

(If your intention was to kindly request a translation then your phrasing was very badly crafted.)

As a sidenote I wasn't asked to tell you that by anyone, just noticed your comment on his talk page. Opinions are of my own.

Thank you for your understanding and kind ongoing respect towards your fellow editors. They are not your enemies. We aren't. --grin ✎ 16:00, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for attracting my attention to the good practice guidelines of WPE though you should have read a little bit further said guidelines where it says:

"If the use of another language is unavoidable, try to also provide a translation of the comments. If you are requested to do so and cannot, it is your responsibility to either find a third party to translate or to contact a translator through the Wikipedia:Embassy".

As it is, your protégé Doncsecz (d) has been warned repeatedly, on his talk page and elsewhere, of the consequences of not adhering to guidelines. He is actually blocked from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule which is indicative of the respect he has for "fellow wikipedians". As for you, you should be more careful in your investigations before throwing around harrassment accusations.

In the meantime, your protégé's comments on WPE will continue to be reverted if they don't respect the guidelines you were kind enough to point out to me. This discussion is also transferred to your own talk page. Best, Eklir (talk) 01:17, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Without entering a poo-throwing game please notice, again, that the section you quoted contains "try", and "requested". It is a very distinct phrasing from "obliged to" and "by all yourself", which you implied. It would be extremely bad if anyone would actually start to revert or block based on that policy, I hope you agree. If you (or, in fact, anyone) have repeatedly requested translation and was denied then the reversion of that text in question would be justified, but not any text at your will. (Would be very kind of you to provide some links to the translation requests this all about.)

You are right that I did not browse the whole Wikipedia for past requests, but if you would be so kind as to point me some I'd gladly provide you with translations, if this would ease your tense mood. If there were no such requests (which I hope there were) then the warnings were (would have been?) unjustified. Still, it do not give anyone the right to revert any text without first requesting translation.

In the other, completely unrelated topic of 3RR block I agree with the block, if there were 3 reverts. (Funny, now that I checked, I see no blocks and I see 4 reverts of both him and his fellow editfighter, and Doncsecz seemed to provide at least 3 sources by the request of the other guy, if you mean Battle_of_Grocka. Did you?)

But let me say again: unrelated. I understand that it is a good feeling that someone gets blocked for something else when they annoy you with something, but should not let yourself feel happy for the blocking of a fellow editor, mind you. He is not a vandal, I hope that we agree in that, and he's not the lone short tempered person with national pride around either. I guess you see his point, and if you just spend a minute thinking you can understand the reason of his fustration: he keeps creating articles which are relevant, and people put 'em on speedy delete all the time, just because these people are not known for English speaking common people, and he has the bad habit to neglect including notability criteria at first. I told him to put it in all the time, I hope he will, and it would be extremely good to consider his history of kept articles and just warn him politely of including the notability information instead of putting the articles on delete, which is a very rude way to deliver the same message.

In the meantime it would be extremely good if his comments were not reverted without requesting translation. I do not have neither time nor mood to go after you people and revert you, and start a debate with local admins, but if you let the man a bit rest and try to actually ignore his comments if they're disturb you the pages would be a better place. WP:CIV: "...and avoid upsetting other editors whenever possible.". (Let me guess, as a last thought, that you are not really interested in what his comments mean. If you are, tell me, and I'll provide you a translation; if you are not, then this whole stick-to-translation-or-get-reverted game is just creating stress for everyone. Ignore.) --grin ✎ 09:39, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Please note that this discussion has been moved to the appropriate talk page of the offending contributor. Thank you. Eklir (talk) 05:20, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

This is the second time you move the discussion. I'm kind of getting annoyed. Would you please kindly stop moving it all around? Thank you. --grin ✎ 13:50, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Answer from MagyarTürk

Hey. I was surprised when I read your letter. Only Doncsecz speaks Hungarian to me on my talk page. When I was new member, once I wrote in Hungarian, but no more times (except on Doncsecz's page). And I know nothing about Ekler. (?) User:MagyarTürk —Preceding undated comment was added at 00:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC).

Sorry, Eklir, see above.

But the main question is: have it bothered you that Doncsecz wrote in Hungarian? I ask because I find it quite impolite that Eklir tries to revert things on other people's talk pages when he wasn't asked to. If it have bothered you then Eklir was right, if not then... he most probably should be politely asked to refrain from doing it again, ever. --grin ✎ 13:56, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

cruft left on my userpage

Someone long ago

A curiousity... have you never been in hungary and after in any other country in your life? You didn't seen any difference? really? :-) User:Surcouf 17:16 CET 01/09/2004

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[edit] Missing source of origin on a picture Hello,

"You uploaded Image:JPIIassinattem81.jpeg and stated that it is released to the public domain, but you did not mention who shot the picture and why is it public domain, who released it that way?

Please update the description of the picture (and other possible pictures you may have uploaded without specific sources).

Thank you, --grin ✎ 19:23, 2005 Apr 7 (UTC)"

ANY PICTURE THAT I POST is public domain because it belongs exclusively to me, and I own the only negatives to it (Yes, even in the digital age, I shoot in 35 or 120). Please keep that in your records and try not to be a pain in the arse.

[edit] Missing source of origin on a picture Hello,

"You uploaded Image:JPIIassinattem81.jpeg and stated that it is released to the public domain, but you did not mention who shot the picture and why is it public domain, who released it that way?

Please update the description of the picture (and other possible pictures you may have uploaded without specific sources).

Thank you, --grin ✎ 19:23, 2005 Apr 7 (UTC)"

ANY PICTURE THAT I POST is public domain because it belongs exclusively to me, and I own the only negatives to it (Yes, even in the digital age, I [or my friends/photographers shoot in 35 or 120). If it is a photo of me, I own it because I purchased the film, and the photoshoot before it was shot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by cyboar (talk • contribs)

Nice reply for a polite request from 2005. :-) -grin ✎ 20:54, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Username usurpation on HU:wiktionary

Hello, I'm an admin here at the EN:wiki and I'm trying to go through the login unification process. It appears that someone has registered the username Dante Alighieri on HU:Wiktionary.[8] I was hoping to take ownership of the name there since the account seems to be abandoned. Please let me know if this is possible and what steps I need to take. Thank you for your time. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 01:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately the account have more than 500 edits, so I cannot just pull the carpet... But with high probability I could guess that it is a sock puppet of the then-regular copyvio master user:Dubaduba or wikt:hu:user:Csörföly Dániel Tibor, and since he may be active somwehere around you may try to contact him about this account and request permission to usurp (or get it confirmed that it is not his account after all). You have a slightly higher than 50% chance. You can try to contact editor by email contact (any of the three accounts :)). If everything fails come back and nag me by email, and I'll try to make a few further attempts around then go on with usurpation nevertheless. --grin ✎ 15:11, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Szia !

Do not leave any messages on Hungarian Wikipedians notice board [9] If you want anybody to read your messages, them may be better posted on WikiProject_Hungary instead.--Nmate (talk) 20:17, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Request for uploading permission

I would like one-time special permission to upload an image for the purpose of adding a picture to the page on the USS Pigeon. It is a photograph of Mrs. Joseph B. Provance at the christening ceremony at the Bethlehem Steel dry docks. In the picture, to her right, is her husband. Mr. and Mrs. Provance were also my grandparents. The photograph is in the public domain and is part of our family archives. Since Mrs. Provance and the ceremony are mentioned in the article, I feel it would be most appropriate to include the image. If permission cannot be granted to me because of my status, could you suggest another way of having it included? Thank you so much.Mdprovance (talk) 18:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

I see that wwoods have already offered help, but basically if you wait a few days you'll be able to upload it yourself. Some wikipedia editing would help, too. :-) --grin ✎ 07:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

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Very thoughtful of you to check. Yes, it's been I, me and myself. Thanks. :-) --grin ✎ 19:16, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

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Help for an article nominated for Afd

Hello Grin,

This is regarding a post of "Janos Boros" the Ex-Vice Mayor of Kolozsvar. You might not remember me, I am Kiran, an Indian by Szarmazas. My Magyar is a bit rusty, so I have to write in English. In 2009 there was nominated under Afd by some Romanian users. It was finally decided as "keep". It seems some RO Users have decided to nominate it again. I got the decision reviewed and the Admin was gracious enough to open it for discussion again. If you have the time, please do participate.

Warm regards, Hangakiran (talk) 20:45, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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Sorry!

Hi Grin, sorry for my impulsiveness. I am a newbie here and probably do not understand what you were saying. I was too direct and also did not really get what you were saying. Cheers, Hop n hop (on the arctic ice) 05:20, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Ptbotgourou on HU

Hello Grin, you blocked my bot on HU but the fact that HU use wikidata is not understandable for me, Two possibilities, you're stupid and the only solution is that i do the same kind of thing like blocking you and your bot on FR, or you provide a solution or a link to help me... --GdGourou - °o° - Talk to me 12:20, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Reply on my huwp talk page, but basically it means huwp interwiki should not updated at all, all updates have to land in wikidata. --grin ✎ 01:24, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Zorpia

I've seen that from the page history that you were involved in a past deletion discussion regarding the article. I've put the article up for AFD and I'm currently dealing with an editor who singlehandedly turned the page from a neutrally written article that passed AFC into some anti-Zorpia creed who has blatantly said that he wants all of the "spam" information on Wikipedia because it is helpful.—Ryulong (琉竜) 16:04, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm surprised that you're considering people's blogspot blogs and random forums across the web as reliable sources, as there is absolutely no editorial control and it's just people complaining.—Ryulong (琉竜) 19:08, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

That is right, however consider the context: in case of webpages there are rarely long articles about them published in perr-reviewed scientific journals, and the same goes for criminal or semi-criminal organisations operating on the internet. It is possible that tere are references by antispam companies or anti-abuse organisations but I did not really have neither the time nor the deep interest to find them. Since most of the references were inserted by me it's a bit surpising that you're surprised, but it is understandable and I would like to have real, reviewed sources myself. It is a question of article and source quality, and not source unreliability; as far as I remember I avoided to include highly opinionated or obviously unreliable references.

The article and its sources - in my opinion - are valid but it's a bit hard to tell whether it's about a website, about a worldwide and state-backed scam or a spam organisation; yet it offers background and history, which usually the base of any enciclopedic content. --grin ✎ 10:58, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm amazed that you think that you ever thought that these were sufficient. Let me remind you that WP:RS forbids self-published information unless it's used to corroborate information about the publisher itself. It doesn't matter that you went out and found a bunch of blog entries or forum threads that are complaints about how Zorpia made them send spam to their friends and those posts corroborate with each other. That's not a reliable source and you should have just let the article get deleted in December.—Ryulong (琉竜) 11:17, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Your expectation of your outside world acting as you want it to amazes me no less. I accept that you own your own opinion, count as one, and instead of trying to push your values down others' throats why don't you state yours then stand aside to let others speak out their own? I already said I disagree with you, and voicing your "amazement" (which is, in fact, a strong a possibly not very polite judgement of my opinion) is uncalled for. In my opinion worthless information do not belong to Wikipedia, and worthless was tried to phrased several way by the guidelines, in case someone cannot comprehend the meaning. Guidelines, not rules, not holy script. Also in my opinion Zorpia article contains valuable information, background of the operation, its working and possibly its history (not much less valuable than any article about a botnet or a shady criminal organisation). I consider it worthwhile, and since I already repeated this at least four times I don't really see what you expect to achieve by telling your opinion about what matters and what not, apart from telling me what to think. It does not work that way. --grin ✎ 06:53, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Hello Grin, I will be celebrating my birthday on 19 March. So, I would like to give you a treat. If you decide to "eat" the cookie, please reply by placing {{subst:munch}} on my talk page. I hope this cookie has made your day better. Cheers! Arctic Kangaroo 15:10, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Kérdés

Légyszíves segíts nekem. Az építés alatt levő sablont itt hogy hívják? Van itt olyan egyáltalán? Módis Ágnes Vadszederke (talk) 23:15, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Én is csak mgkeresni tudom. Gondolom valami "work in progress" vagy hasonló lehet. Bár én azt mondanám, hogy nem létezik, de nincs kizárva. --grin ✎ 07:01, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Köszönöm. Még eddig nem leltem meg. De lehet, hogy nem is lesz rá szükség, ha csinálok egy allapot, akkor azon dolgozhatok, mint egy homokozóban, igaz?:) Módis Ágnes Vadszederke (talk) 23:56, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Sandbox

What a good idea! This sandbox is very good, thank you grin. :) Módis Ágnes Vadszederke (talk) 19:48, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

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Seeking your cooperation. Diptanshu^Talk 14:22, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

You probably have to dwelve deep in wikipolitics, but as a frist shoot you may check into the dns-related phabricator project and create a new task with "DNS" tag on it, and expect to be sent to your next direction, probably either towards the incubator or meta for some voting fun; or maybe you'll simply get whet you're craving for. Good luck! --grin ✎ 23:33, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

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re: lost email

I sent it to you again through the Wikipedia email system. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 15:20, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Gotcha, thanks! --grin ✎ 14:59, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

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@The Bushranger: This is an extremely unfair interpretation of the state of affairs. You just said that "Friendly notices are allowed" and described its parameters, while you seem to have failed to match these with my actions. I have pinged four (not fourty) or so people, all of them because they have contributed significant amount of FidoNet material in the articles, and as such, they are most probably interested in the debate. Moreover I have not written even a bit on any talk page at all. Even more I have specifically avoided to direct the opinion of the peope involved, I only asked them to voice their own personal thoughts. This is by no means differ from asking a community of a specific wikipedia workshop to aid the RfD, and I strongly believe that this is even beneficial for the proper conduct.

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When you ping someone with an AfD with a good guess of how they are going to !vote, that's violating CANVASS in spirit at the very least. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:57, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

So you imply that when, say, there's a space related AfD and you go and notify the people working on space related articles then you are CANVASSsing? This is, as Iridescent said, a niche topic, and I notified really a just few people who might be knowledgeable in it. I do not know most of them, I checked the Fidonet article history and pinged those who seemed to insert factual information into related articles. (Like tomjennings, who is the creator of Fidonet and know way too well what influence Ron had.) I disagree with your point of view, even the quoted policies advise to bring people into the discussion who may have enough knowledge to form an opinion. Please try to take a step back from your already established position which may or may not have been based on wrong or misunderstood facts and examine again whether what I've done was the proper and right way to call people into the discussion. (There are literally thousands of people who may have been, as you say, canvassed to vote, but I only notified those who seem to be familiar with Wikipedia and the methods, as well as being knowledgeable in the topic. I don't think this could have been done any way differently, but I am open to your suggestions for the next time.) --grin ✎ 09:05, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

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Sorry, why have you been requesting a bot to delete loads of photos from the Bath City F.C. page, on Friday I went into the club/ Twerton Park itself, and all of the photos on there are owned by the club, the ones you requested to be deleted were actually put on the site by the club photographer himself, you can email them if you'd like to, at the end of the day could you maybe just give us a break mate? The clubs run by volunteers, don't need people deleting Wikipedia images that we own, cheers. <jon.bickley@bathcityfootballclub.co.uk> Joseph1891 (talk) 22:55, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Would you be so kind as to tell me the exact URL of the place where I have requested the deletion of anything, please? Also, please specify exactly what page or image have I requested to delete (preferably with URL). Unless you tell me what am I accused with I can't really help you. grin ✎ 14:27, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Don't worry wasn't you, sorry about that. Joseph1891 (talk) 16:09, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Oh good. I'm relieved. grin ✎ 17:19, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

A prob

Hi, your bot, CommonsDelinker, had removed my picture from my userpage and I reverted it. My picture was nothing but a cat. So I think your bot has a prob. UserAV666 (talk) 13:03, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

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Lau kwok kin hong kong fencer picutre

this picture is being deleted "03Jan20_4-182.jpg" but this picture is owned by me , why it is a copyright violation? Fatcataegi (talk) 17:01, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

The image image:03Jan20_4-182.jpg is nominated for deletion, see its page. The request is at commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:03Jan20 4-182.jpg (also linked from the image), there is the deletion reason which I do not quote here because then you would ask me about it.

I do not understand why do you ask me? I didn't nominate, didn't comment and didn't delete it. Why me? :-) grin ✎ 18:30, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Question about deleted pics

Hey Grin this is Pablo, reaching you because one month ago in June 2024 I was editing the wiki of my grandfather Hugo Daini and put some of the pictures of his works, then saw that your bot CommonsDelinker deleted a bunch of photos of his monuments/sculptures and his profile pic. I read that the first step is asking to the administrator the reason for the deletion.

In this case all the pics of the sculptures and monuments were taken by my grandfather or by my grandmother back in the 60' / 70', or by my aunt Alexandra Daini, then published in a book called Hugo Daini in the 80s - they are both dead and I am their direct relative / heir, while my aunt Alexandra Daini is helping me with this wiki. I also saw that a pic of one of his sculpture takes by me last month was also deleted, which sounds really strange.

Can I ask the reason for the deletion of all this pics? So then I can follow the right path to put them back again.

Thanks Pablo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pablodaini (talk • contribs) 11:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Hello Pablo! I have not deleted your pics, right? So, as you propely noted, you should ask the administrator who deleted them for a reason, but it's even better if you actually read the deletion comment which more often than not contains the reason. I can't really help you, the bot only removes already deleted image links, not the images themselves. grin ✎ 17:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Ah ok thanks - I thought it was your bot that deleted those images. Yes the reason stated is missing permission, which is strange / not true.

I see only now some other comments asking you about deleted images - it's not super-clear for "standard" users like us who actually deleted the image!

I'll contact the right admin, which actually I now see is KRD

Thanks

Pablo Pablodaini (talk) 09:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Missing permission often means exactly that: either the license is missing/wrong, or the image is under copyright and the free license (released by the copyright owner) was not emailed to the permissions email address. Krd usually deletes those which have been missing that for a longer period of time. grin ✎ 12:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Edward Windsor, Lord Downpatrick

Hello there, it looks like your bot deleted the more recent image of this person, so a very old one is now in place. Why did that happen? Can it be reverted, since there's no reason for a nearly 20-year-old image to be used instead of a newer picture? Doctorstrange617 (talk) 17:19, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

The bot cannot delete images. Please see who and why have deleted it (I can't since you haven't told me the exact image name/link). You can freely revert the edits of the bot, but it will not bring back an image someone have deleted. grin ✎ 08:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

Gotcha. It's this image: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=delete&page=File:Eddy_Downpatrick_in_Lo_Manthang,_the_medieval_walled_capital_of_the_Kingdom_of_Lo_in_the_upper_reaches_of_Nepal,_close_to_the_Tibetan_border.jpg Doctorstrange617 (talk) 12:51, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

05:37, 15 September 2024 Aafi deleted page File:Eddy Downpatrick in Lo Manthang, the medieval walled capital of the Kingdom of Lo in the upper reaches of Nepal, close to the Tibetan border.jpg (No permission since 7 September 2024)

The image has been tagged as missing permission since 2024-09-07 and the uploader got a warning here; permission was not established, so the image has been deleted by a random administrator. It may have been related to the fact that the uploader has been permanently banned due to abuse.

In any way, the real author shall be established and then the proper permission from the author should be sent to permissions at wikimedia.org, then any administrator (possibly even myself) can verify the permission and if it is in order then undelete the image, which is - considering the uploader ban - very unlikely. grin ✎ 09:19, 8 October 2024 (UTC)