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Helmut Lent

Probably have caught up with your changes now. Nothing major, just small tweaks and the occasional Germanism. Auntieruth55 (talk) 21:20, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I'll catch up with you again this week. If you have time, could you look at a couple of my edits on the GA list Friedrich Freiherr von Hotze, Friedrich Wilhelm, Fürst zu Hohenlohe-Kirchberg, Battle of Ostrach, and/or Army of the Danube? Auntieruth55 (talk) 22:00, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Albert Graf von der Goltz

Hello. First of all, thank you for organizing the aricle. I thought we should have a photo in the infobox, so I searched for one. Unfortunately, it seems that only one exists (depicts the colonel after his Oak Leaves award, in color) but the website is selling photos and subsequently the one I found has a green mark at the middle. I don't know what should be done in this case. If you can help, please let me know. Sepp18 ^Discussion18:08, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Commons Image

Hello again, I was browsing through the article about WWII and, of course, I noticed this picture, and below it, "Licensing: All images [consisting this image] are in the public domain". But, the picture showing Kantaria raising the Soviet flag on the Reichstag (this) is a "faithful digitisation of a unique historic image"... etc etc. So how can the first picture be in the public domain? Sepp18 (talk) 09:03, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

I accidentally found this picture (forgive me if I'm spamming with all my questions). Can this be used as non - free use image on the article "Albert Graf von der Goltz"? Sepp18 (talk) 12:35, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

citations

someone's bot keeps going through and changing them. Makes me crazy. Do you know how to prevent this? 13:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

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Blitzkrieg

Hi.

If I may, are you supporting motion A: having a German doctrinal article and Blitzkrieg article (as am I)? Or motion B: do you also suggesting Blitzkrieg be split into several articles, as the other guy is suggesting (historiography etc)?

Motion A makes sense, motion B doesn't. All the stuff on 'Blitzkrieg' should be in the same article.

Moreover, the other argument was about operational doctrine. The other editor has tried consistently to claim there was one in the German Army. He has failed to provide any concrete evidence. All the sources he has tried to use support the opposite conclusion, or regard his position as highly dubious. Dapi89 (talk) 13:00, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Dapi89, I refer you to Wikipedia:Canvassing#campaigning. Dduff442 (talk) 14:18, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

This about the article, not you. Go away. Dapi89 (talk) 16:54, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

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I've crossed out the nonsense and insulting B.S. Dapi89 (talk) 13:23, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

It's nice to know that any dispute resolution process can only end one way. Dduff442 (talk) 14:31, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

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and let me know when Lent gets to ACR Auntieruth55 (talk) 00:50, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

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WikiBirthday

I saw from here that it's been exactly three years since you joined the project. Happy WikiBirthday! Keep up the good work, rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 16:42, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

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Hello, welcome to Tuesday.

Thanks for the support. I see his strategy is to rritate and in doing so, bait me. I shall ignore him where possible and impossibly spiffing. Lets see where that gets me. To your post on the Blitzkrieg page: He hasn't sourced his edits, so he can be justifiably reverted anyway. It's good to see you are still around and keeping things ticking over (on the Hartmann and Marseille pages). Do you have the Tate book yet? One more thing: A while ago I promised some loss records for Allied fighter units in North Africa for September 1942. I don't have time to do them until August. The time I spend at the Archives goes by very quickly. Neverthless, I have not forgotten. It will probably be a while until I respond again, as I am up to my neck in stuff (that doesn't include sh1t!). Dapi89 (talk) 00:05, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

What makes you say that..... Dapi89 (talk) 17:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Villers-Bocage FAC

Hi MisterBee. I was wondering if you get the chance, if you'd mind dropping by to let us know how you feel about the responses to your comments on the above FAC. Thanks very much, EyeSerene^talk 21:50, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

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Karl Möbius

You may be intresting in this page Karl Möbius (SS officer); i left a message on the talk page earlier this year but no one has gotten back to me. I see you have made a few changes recently. Who ever start the page, do you think they have got him confused with Rolf?--EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 11:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

V-B

Good catch; i dont have access to the source and google books does not provide a snippet/preview. I will be able to access the source next week; i have changed it for now for consistancy for the version most used: Wenke. I should be able to access this source next week, so i will flag it up on the talk page and check it out asap.--EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 13:15, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Joachim Helbig

You might be interested in page 19 of this PDF document. It comes from the Cabinet files "NAVAL, MILITARY AND AIR SITUATION from 12 noon May 8th, to 12 noon May 15 1941"(CAB 66/16/25) and identifies three vessels sunk in Piraeus Harbour that day. Air attack is clearly the stated cause of its demise. Its position was "Off Missolonghi". This might be useful. Dapi89 (talk) 14:23, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

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Marseille

the datas you put are not the same that Robert Tate writes, I did not mess anything I put the note so that you ( I imagined that you should operate change on my contributs) see from where my contributs came from, please do not consider Marseille article like your property :) regards, --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 12:38, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Marseille last victories

Hello I dont watn to start any fight but here in en wiki there are some contributors that are really brutal in deleting others contributs, even if with references and notes... Tate (do you have his book?) states that Marseille shot down 6 Spitfires and one hurricane... it is not just the time... why you dont le me write these informations? You regard them as not important? And If I decide that they are important? Who decides? the one that has mor barnstar and medals?

--Gian piero milanetti (talk) 13:28, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Stern von Afrika

I envy You that you saw his plane rudder... i would like to go to see the place of his last crash and the piramids that the Italian built up for him, anc in Tobruk his clay coffin... I know an Italian ace that met Joachim in Afrika... he showed them how he could hit a petrol bin with a cannon shell fron one km, he was very nice and kind... but Petrosellini told me as well that somebody said that Marseille did not had just an accident. His plane may have been hit by A/A fire... but the Germans put the thing to silence because it did not fit with the legend... I added the Stheinoff sentence as it seems interesting, showing the human side of Marseille, I am afraid it will last little...--Gian piero milanetti (talk) 13:56, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

jOACHEN

I would like you know that I am so interested in Marseille that I put it in a novel that I wrote about Italian pilot of world war two... He is one of main characters, the master of the protagonist, the main character, a young italian pilots... If you knew italian I would like you could read it... regards, --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 21:22, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

La stella d'Africa

Thanks for your kind words... I hope you will agree about the other adds I just wrote down. About the novel, If you are interested I should have some pages translated, I would like to have an opinion from such an experten as You... regards,

--Gian piero milanetti (talk) 06:25, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Medaglie d'Oro al V.M.

I have a book about "Le medaglie d'oro al valor militare" from Ufficio storico dell'Aeronautica Militare... I can have a look... please give me some e mail where I could send you the extract as If I do it here I should lose the copyright... regards

Buon Natale

Merry Christmas from Roma! --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 19:48, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I hope You dont dislike my last contributs to Marseille...

--Gian piero milanetti (talk) 07:40, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

E mail

damn... I dont find where I can click you an e mail... where is it? --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 21:06, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Mail

I dont find the tool box and when i put http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/MisterBee1966 link appears an error page... :(

Ok

I try, thanks...

Found it

Have You got it? :)

Great

Good... enjoy it ( I hope!) Sorry for my poor english! --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 21:34, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Best wishes

From Happy new year I am in Thailand and access to internet is difficult... how is going the reading gian piero

Seile

Thanks for the appreciation even with a bad translation (mine)? Of course you should read more about their friendships in my novel... but I dont have a longer translation Thanks for what you said about Seile... I would use it in my novel if y0ou mind.... Really good year from Phi Phi islands... gian piero --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 14:19, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Lent

a few tweaks in the English. Histories is plural, possessive is history's. A couple of other minor ones in the new prose. Oberfähnrich has no article, so I added the English after the word (in parens). First ensign. Suitable? Nice article. I added support on FAC page. Auntieruth55 (talk) 19:48, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Photos

Many thanks for the message. I will be happy to help. Which pictures are you looking for in particular? I have a large collection of original Hoffmann cards and Hoffmann images that may be helpful. Best Mariaflores1955 (talk) 03:23, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : XLVI (December 2009)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XLVI (December 2009)
From the coordinators Happy New Year to all! I shall take this opportunity to reflect upon the past year. In 2009 our project grew impressively, adding nearly 100 new featured articles and doubling the total number of featured lists. Overall the total number of articles within our scope surpassed 95,000 in 2009, and if these numbers hold steady we will surpass 100,000 articles in 2010. Thank you all for your outstanding efforts. We are currently working on several proposals to improve the project for 2010. These include bringing the Milhist Academy up to full operational status, as well as spicing up and streamlining the task force structure. Also, any help you can offer to clear the current backlog of Military History good article nominations would be appreciated. For the Coordinators, TomStar81 (Talk) 11:10, 26 December 2009 (UTC)	Articles of note New featured articles: Battle of Morotai Castle North Carolina class battleship Xa Loi Pagoda raids New featured lists: List of Brigade of Gurkhas recipients of the Victoria Cross List of World War I aces credited with more than 20 victories New featured pictures: After the War a Medal and Maybe a Job Lincoln assassination conspirators execution National Fund for the Welsh Troops USS Annapolis in the Arctic Yiddish World War I poster New A-Class articles: Battle of Bita Paka Battle of Ostrach Charles Eaton (RAAF officer) Design A-150 battleship Dutch 1913 battleship proposal Helmut Lent Henry Wrigley James Harold Cannan James Whiteside McCay Lebaudy Patrie Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-3 Thomas Baker (aviator)
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Re: Max-Hellmuth Ostermann article

I am in agreement with you that the best way to proceed would be to use the German words in italics and the add the English translation in parenthesis behind the term. TomStar81 (Talk) 09:00, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

No, that cool. I'll take another look just as soon as finish up the Military historian of the year paperwork. I'm just about done with it; another five ro so minutes and I should be back to eyeball your article again. TomStar81 (Talk) 09:41, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Karl Aloys von Furstenberg

took care of the problems of dates etc on Karl Aloys. Question: could you move the FA and GA emblems on your talk page to lower on the page, or to the left? It interferes with the Talkback dropdown menu. Auntieruth55 (talk) 19:03, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

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much better THANKS Auntieruth55 (talk) 20:35, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

will you review that article for GA? Auntieruth55 (talk) 18:50, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

thanks for your help and comments!

thanks for your help with Johann von Klenau, which was promoted to FA yesterday. Auntieruth55 (talk) 19:59, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Lemelsen

Hi there, I checked and the File:JLemelsen.jpg is uploaded exactly the way it was published as Hoffmann postcard. The original postcard has a text confirming the name of subject in question. The picture seems narrow, but that is the way it was preserved in the Hoffmann Archive. Sorry. Mariaflores1955 (talk) 18:37, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

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Luftwaffe eagle crest

Do you have a free image of one that won't get deleted for copyright purposes? I need one for the Luftwaffe History article and its beyond my artistic 'talent' and time to create one. Cheers. Dapi89 (talk) 16:07, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Thankyou! Dapi89 (talk) 13:31, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Any opinions about the revamp on the Luftwaffe article. Dapi89 (talk) 23:14, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, some of those points are raised in the oeprational history. The Defence of the Reich page has some on the lack of aerial defence. I will copy and add some to those bits and pieces. Dapi89 (talk) 14:17, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Erich Hartmann

Can you please check the recent history of the article and note a deletion of a paragraph by an anon who has similarly deleted many passages in other articles showing the Russians in World War II and beyond in a bad light. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 16:17, 2 February 2010 (UTC).

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : XLVII (January 2010)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XLVII (January 2010)
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Günther von Kluge portrait photo

I stumbled upon a discussion from 2008 between you and user Psychonaut regarding his/her removal of a photo from the Günther von Kluge article that you had apparently uploaded. Even though Psychonaut's points about the quality of the image were valid, after studying his/her contributions history, user page and talk page, I've come to the conclusion that he/she is a useless, obnoxious deletionist twit. Instead of performing constructive work, he/she sees removal of material as a panacea. Regardless, I took a stab at retouching the image using GIMP on Linux, with some encouraging results. Take a look for yourself at Wikimedia Commons. More work could be done to remove the flash flare in the center of the image, but that could be rather difficult.
Next time you visit a museum with your camera, I'd suggest bringing along a tripod and avoiding flash photography. Some museums prohibit tripods, probably because they present a trip hazard when the crowds are dense, so you might consider sneaking in a monopod instead, since lighting levels are low and it is practically impossible to hold the camera steady enough to get a unblurred image during the extended exposure times. To avoid the barrel distortion created with short focal lengths, one can step back from the subject and zoom in, i.e., use a longer focal length. To avoid perspective distortion, photographers have historically used a bellows-type view camera, impractical while traveling, or a stepladder, which almost certainly would be considered "over the top", unless prior arrangements have been made with the museum staff. Reflections from museum lights are a tough problem and probably can't be avoided, unfortunately —Quicksilver^{T @} 16:42, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

another A list!

Fraschka, Günther citation? The book is listed in the references, but you have no citation for it. Nice job. Congrats! Auntieruth55 (talk) 02:35, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

also message for you re Helbig here. Auntieruth55 (talk) 16:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Train keeps a'rollin...

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Upcoming coordinator elections

In about two weeks the coordinator election will take place, and I decided to leave a message here on behalf of the current coordinator tranche to urge you to run for coordinator for this upcoming tranche. We feel you would make an outstanding coordinator for the project, and it is our belief that you would easily obtain a spot should you decide to add your name to the running. You are, of course, under no obligation to run, but an editor of your caliber would be a welcome addition to the force. For the coordinators, TomStar81 (Talk) 22:39, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

In response to your question at Tom's talk page, I believe this is what you are looking for: Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Academy/Being a coordinator -MBK₀₀₄ 08:27, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Heh, seems MBK beat me to it. Yes, we do have an academy page which elaborates a little more on the processes by which one becomes a coordinator and what you can expect before, during and after the election. TomStar81 (Talk) 20:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks. By my standards I'm checking my temper rather well. Of course I would never tar one group with the same brush; its a pity our friend doesn't seem to do the the same. Dapi89 (talk) 18:22, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I am not criticising Frieser -I have cited him many times, but the way he is using him. This is not about the sources author, but anb editor. Dapi89 (talk) 13:13, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

frieser

er weiß ganz genau wer frieser ist, frieser werk über den blitzkrieg is das standart werk über diese thematik. er benutzt sein werk, schau den blitzkrieg artikl das ist komplett frieser und dapi hats geschrieben , er besitzt sein buch und verweißt extrem viel auf ihn. außerdem war friser nicht nur mitarbeiter des deutschen militärgeschichtlichen forschungsamtes das buch und seine artikel wurdem von selbigen in auftrag gegeben. das buch ist von 2007. das is einfach nur gesabbel von jemanden der null arguemente hat.... Blablaaa (talk) 23:39, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Unsinn. I am criticising the way he is used, not Frieser himself. See your talk page. Dapi89 (talk) 13:16, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

HMS Jackal (F22)

Hi, you reverted my edit on the article. Note: I took the liberty to revert the revert. According to the source stated in the article it was Gerhard Brenner who struck Jackal. At least the Germans gave him the credit. MisterBee1966 (talk) 16:25, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi there, I originally reverted your change because at that time the link was red - it didn't actually point to an article describing who/what Brenner was - it could have been a person, a destroyer or whatever... hence the link told us nothing, and actually looked like vandalism. Now the link correctly points to an article about a notable pilot... I would suggest that better wording might be something like "... was sunk by a JU-88 piloted by the notable shipping hunter Gerhard Brenner" to put the issue in context. (I'm not sure how anti-shipping aces were described).. regards, Rod. Rcbutcher (talk) 00:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Walter Oesau Burial Site

First off, apologies for the delay. I'd like to stand by my sources. As a matter of fact, I do have access to an email from the Meldorf Museum director mentioning the same fact and having a rememberance in pictures of Oesau.

Having said that, there seems to be a recent block on the information on the concerned period. When recently a friend of mine drove by the museum, they were told that the museum does not wish to discuss this topic. Also, all the historical information from the museum website has been removed.

Lastly, in the article you have mentioned, I do not seem to find any references to Oesau. Would you please help me access the said references ? Thanks.Perseus71 (talk) 14:22, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah! I see. If you notice, its marked as Tombstone not received. It could be possible that Oesau's remains were moved to this place recently ? Its hard to say either way. From what my secondary sources have, Since Oesau was born in the area of Meldorf (Farnewinkel), they had decided to bury him there and create a pictorial memorial for him in the museum. If there has been a recent change of policy, it will be little difficult for me to know or find out about the same. But I have been suspecting something of that sort for some time now. I will certainly check what I can. Perseus71 (talk) 17:03, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Here's another theory. It is possible that the tomb in Berlin (if there indeed is one) is a memorial tomb, and doesn't contain any remains at all. For example - Manfred Von Richthofen is also no longer in Berlin, he was moved to Wiesbaden, where the rest of his family is buried (except his father and brother Lothar, whose remains are now under a soccer field in Poland.) Likewise Oesau's original remains are still at the Friedhof of Meldorf. Only a memorial may be present in Berlin. I do not have access to sufficient information or resources to confirm this. (Am in yankeeland). A German friend of mine who has done extensive work on Oesau (enough for a biography) gave this theory. Hope that helps. Perseus71 (talk) 02:04, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

P.S. Thanks for the Linkage on Luftwaffe Org Page. Perseus71 (talk) 02:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Helbig

Fine. It just seemed odd a pilot undergoing very expesnive (time-wise) training would be allowed to participate in missions as a gunner. They must have been short of them. What about Belgium? Dapi89 (talk) 15:48, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

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Two articles on same subject

Just wanted to see your thoughts. It seems that there are two separate articles that both talk about Luftflotte 1. There's the Luftflotte 1 by that name and also there's Luftwaffe North (Ostland) detachment (Luftflotte 1, Baltic Area). From what I can see, the second one was created perhaps as part of German Air Fleets in World War II ? Question is, are these two identical enough to initiate request for combining ? Please share your thoughts. Thanks. Perseus71 (talk) 12:11, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. You feel we don't need to initiate merger of the two since they are stubs? Perseus71 (talk) 13:32, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Appreciate it. I did left a message on the MILHIST talk page. Few responses. I have added Subst messages to all the contributor talk pages. Perseus71 (talk) 02:32, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Guernica

You should never apologize at least to me on these matters. I reiterate again that Your opinions are of great importance to me. I always value them so always feel free to express them whenever on whatever you want. I don't know if you saw rest of the thread. A friend of mine is working on unofficial biography of Walter Osau. we were discussing Oesau's involvement or opinion if one is known of the incident. I do know Like Mölders, he wasn't there at the time. Luftwaffe had thoroughly rejected the idea as counterproductive in the Strategy document during Wever era. I do not take any German bias in what you said. I had pretty much same thoughts from what I have read so far. Even if its not exactly official, I would still like to find out what people like Oesau thoughts or opinion. So my friend would be able to put it in the documentary. By the way I remember you did say something about Oesau's grandson ? Thanks Perseus71 (talk) 18:54, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Defence of the Reich

Could I press you for your opinion on article quality? Dapi89 (talk) 13:27, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XLVIII (February 2010)
From the coordinators March, as you know, is an election month for our project, when we pick the coordinators for the next six months. We are seeking motivated individuals willing to devote some of their time and energy to the project so it continues to grow and prosper. Also, I am making a personal appeal to each of you, the members of this project, to come out and vote for the candidates that run. These users will be responsible for managing the assessment process, answering questions, and making sure that the project's other needs are met. We have approximately 1,000 users who identify as being a part of our project, yet on average only about one-tenth of that number participate in elections. Moreover, as we typically hold referendums on major issues affecting the project along with these election, those who do not vote miss the opportunity to give their opinion on matters affecting the project as a whole. Remember, one vote always makes a difference. For the coordinators, TomStar81 (Talk) 23:47, 6 February 2010 (UTC)	Articles of note New featured articles: Admiralty Islands campaign Alexander Pentland Anthony Roll Battle of Winterthur (1799) Cedric Howell HMS Calliope (1884) The Disasters of War New featured lists: List of battlecruisers of Germany List of National Treasures of Japan (castles) New featured pictures: Australian military encampment, 1918 Injured Arriving by Boat at Balaklava USS New Jersey, 1918 New A-Class articles: Battle of Taejon Bombardment of Papeete First Battle of Maryang San Henry George Chauvel List of Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves recipients: 1942 Michael J. Daly Nguyen Van Nhung No. 1 Wing RAAF Oswald Watt Red Tail Project Siege of Godesberg (1583) SMS Goeben Yermolayev Yer-2
Project news A discussion has begun concerning our military history manual of style's guideline recommending preemptive disambiguation on the naming of military units. As the outcome of the discussion will likely effect a number of pages within our scope we are seeking input from the community on whether the guideline should be changed. Late last year, several largely inactive task forces were merged. However, the mergers of the Australia and New Zealand task forces did not take place as there was no consensus for a new name. To resolve this, a discussion has begun and all editors are encouraged to participate.
Contest department The Contest Department has completed its thirty-fourth month of competition; and its sixth month under the new scoring system. A total of 82 articles were entered by eight editors. Kumioko came first with 110 points, followed by Sturmvogel 66 with 87 points. They receive the Chevrons and Writer's Barnstar respectively. Honorable mentions go to Auntieruth55 (59) and Ian Rose (36). Binksternet, Cirt, Radeksz and YellowMonkey also fielded entries. Please submit any articles you are working on for the March contest.
Awards and honours Brad101 has been awarded the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves in recognition of his excellent reviewing and work on a sizable number of nautical articles that fall within our scope, producing a number of high-quality articles for the Military history and Ships WikiProjects. The A-Class medal has been awarded to Anotherclown for his work on Operation Coburg, Battle of Bita Paka and First Battle of Maryang San. The A-Class medal with Oak Leaves has been awarded to MisterBee1966 for his work on Max-Hellmuth Ostermann, List of Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves recipients: 1940–1941 and List of Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves recipients: 1942.
Editorial: Reliable sources in military history Across Wikipedia, guidelines have been set up so that editors can vet sources for themselves. Links to some of these and a guide for checking if a source is reliable can be found in an excellent Signpost dispatch written by Ealdgyth (talk · contribs). However, for the majority of military history-related topics, we strive for more than just a basic reliable source. Specifically, we aim for peer-reviewed articles and books over, for example, most websites. Contemporary news articles or accounts can and should be mixed in (if possible) to give a picture of the general view point of the time—were they calm, afraid, unsure of what was going on? Another major tenet is neutrality. If an editor rewrote the article Dieppe Raid using only the official Canadian history, we would have a problem; while it does contain a thorough and in-depth overview, a point-of-view can still be read. For one, it gives an undue amount of focus to Canada's input in the planning of the landing, and it would probably give an undue focus to their troops if a majority of the landing forces hadn't been Canadian. Granted, this is a book written to document that country's role in the Second World War, so you would hope it focuses on them, but this same reason makes it unusable as the primary basis for an article. In this case, you would like to utilize a few recent, peer-reviewed books and journals, the official British, Canadian and German histories, possibly a few books written by historians from the aforementioned countries, and newspapers from that time period. Obviously this is ideal, but you need to represent all three sides in this (the United States would be a fourth, but they played only a minor role in the planning and invading). This neutrality aspect applies especially for battles and to a lesser degree biographies, but it can be utilized in virtually every article in our scope. For example, it could be beneficial to obtain Japanese accounts of B-29 Superfortress bombing raids or non-Puerto Rican peer-reviewed sources for that insular area's role in the Second World War. —Ed (talk • majestic titan) Notes
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Organization of Luftwaffe

Hi MisterBee,

Quick question. Is it necessary or mandatory that citations must be provided for the lists of Fliegerkorps or Fliegerdivisions in this article ? I guess for B Class review, it doesn't matter. But for GA review would it be mandatory ? Please do let me know. Thanks Perseus71 (talk) 00:20, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Cheek

I don't mean to be, but is it possible to do articles on these two: Johann-Joachim Stever and Viktor von Schwedler? Dapi89 (talk) 18:02, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

:) Dapi89 (talk) 18:23, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Pictures and Article

No need to be sorry MisterBee1966, I just thought that the pictures in the articles were okay to use in the lists. Also thank you for defending/removing the deletion of the Alfred Eidel article. DocYako(talk) 11:26 11 March 2010

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I renamed the article, but now have lost the review page. Order of Saint Hubert (Bavarian) Auntieruth55 (talk) 17:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

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what else needs to happen with this? Auntieruth55 (talk) 00:00, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

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Do we have any more Bundes photos for this article? I want to expand it, but pics are lacking. Can anything be done? I have asked two other editors. I had no luck trying before at wiki commons. Dapi89 (talk) 16:25, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I have. But is it worth the effort? It would get questioned if I ever nominated it for GA. I had a job convincing the admin on the Ju 87 page. Dapi89 (talk) 23:37, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Coordinator of the
Military history Project,
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Congrats on your election as Coordinator for the Military history Project. In honor of your achievement, I present you with these stars. TomStar81 (Talk) 00:12, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

election

I'm glad you're taking this responsibility on! Auntieruth55 (talk) 15:19, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure this is your first time getting elected? :) Rin tin tin 1996 (talk) 16:09, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

No problemo :)--EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 16:33, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome - congratulations :) EyeSerene^talk 16:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

As above, congratulations Ranger Steve (talk) 17:53, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Agree well done --Jim Sweeney (talk) 19:11, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Congrats! Good Luck on your time as Coordinator! Lord Oliver ^{I Heard It Through The Olive Branch} 21:52, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Can I just echo all of the above? :-) —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 02:00, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Hearty Congratulations! Long Deserved ! Glad you decided to take on that responsibility!! ' Yes you are welcome.  Perseus 71 ^talk 18:38, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Way to go. Openskye (talk) 01:50, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Dürenstein

FAC could use some more eyes, if you have the time. Auntieruth55 (talk) 17:53, 30 March 2010 (UTC) & I responded to your comments re Saint Hubert Order. Auntieruth55 (talk) 22:27, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you very much for your support on the coordinator elections. I look forward to working with you for at least the next six months. – Joe N 14:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Need Advice - Finger Four Formation

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Hope you could share your thoughts. Although there is an article on Finger Four Formation, many countries developed it in parallel along with Germany during WWII. So do you think details of Luftwaffe's work should be in that article or in one of Luftwaffe Articles ? Thanks '  Perseus 71 ^talk 15:33, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Molder's was one of the articles I had in mind. Since working on Organization of Luftwaffe, I am discovering more and more about Finger Four. My dilemma is, where should the new information go ? If I put it in Molder's Article, would it deviate from Core aim of a Biography ? The Official Finger Four article has become too generic so it really doesn't make sense. The Organization of Luftwaffe had some content, but it really doesn't belong there. (Core aim divergence) Please advice. '  Perseus 71 ^talk 19:03, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I will consolidate the Content. 19:13, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

How do i create an new article if there is already one with the same name

I wanted to create an article for General Fritz Becker, but there is already an article about a German football player named Fritz Becker. User talk:DocYako 18:19, 31 March 2010 UTC

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Is your concern addressed? I don't think it will pass ACR if you still have a concern, so let me know what it is, and I'll deal with it.

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see the citation and notes section Auntieruth55 (talk) 01:03, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Admin?

Have you given any thought to becoming an admin? I've had a look through your contributions, and aside from the lack of edit summaries you appear to meet the qualifications for admin rights on wikipedia. I'd be happy to nominate or co-nominate you if you like. Just something to think about. TomStar81 (Talk) 10:59, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Good afternoon. I saw that you have all 3 volumes of the Wehrmachtberichte 1939-1945. I was wondering - provided you have time, of course - if you could find the report for Oberstleutnant Albert Graf v.d. Goltz, on 3 October 1943 Jake V (talk) 17:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I always forget using this template, even when writing in Greek WP. I'm going to add it to all of "my" articles. By the way, I always think that my articles are somehow negligent compared to your contributions and, needless to say, I'm quite short of sources (living in Greece, little knowledge of German language and no accessibility to such books) - so, can I rely on you when I need similar information? Jake V (talk) 18:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

All right. Thanks a lot again, and good luck if you decide to become an admin! Jake V (talk) 19:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Again, the Wehrmachtbericht reference for GenLt Heribert von Larisch on 12 September 1944 Jake V (talk) 11:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Jake V (talk) 15:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : XLIX (March 2010)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue XLIX (March 2010)
From the coordinators I am pleased to report that the March coordinator elections have concluded, and that 15 members have been selected to serve as coordinators from April to September. Special congratulations go to AustralianRupert, Dank, MisterBee1966, NativeForeigner, Patar knight, and Ranger Steve, all of whom are newly elected coordinators. As we start this new tranche we welcome all returning coordinators, and wish those who decided not to stand for reelection luck as they move on to new things. In other election news, a motion made to extend the coordinator tranche from its current six-month term to one full year gained consensus from the election participants. This will take effect in September, during the next election cycle. For the IX Coordinator Tranche, TomStar81 (Talk) 05:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC)	Articles of note New featured articles: 21st Regiment Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry Battle of Osan Bayern class battleship Dutch 1913 battleship proposal Karl Aloys zu Fürstenberg Mary Rose No. 1 Wing RAAF USS Congress (1799) New featured lists: List of Medal of Honor recipients for the Boxer Rebellion List of Medal of Honor recipients for the Vietnam War List of United States Military Academy alumni (Confederate States Army) New featured topics: Battlecruisers of Germany New featured pictures: Cavalry At Balaklava New A-Class articles: Allan Walters Army of the Danube Battle of Dürenstein Byzantine-Sassanid War of 602–628 HMAS Sydney (R17) Horses in World War I Lê Văn Duyệt Michael P. Murphy Roderic Dallas USS Triton (SSRN-586)
Project news Operation Normandy In May 2008 a small group of editors, operating from a page in Cam's userspace, began work on improving Wikipedia's articles relating to the pivotal Second World War Battle of Normandy that took place in northern France between 6 June and the end of August 1944. Milhist has now adopted this collaboration as our third special project. The aim of Operation Normandy is to bring all core topics—official operations, battles, and the invasion beaches—to featured status by the 70th anniversary of D-Day on 6 June 2014. More information can be found on the project page; any interested editors are most welcome to sign up and help us meet this challenging goal! Henry Allingham World War I Contest Our Henry Allingham World War I Contest ended on 11 March with the following results: in first place was Sturmvogel 66; in second place was Ian Rose; in third place was Dana boomer; and the finalists were Abraham, B.S., Carcharoth, and XavierGreen. The contest produced an incredible 238 recognised article improvements, of which 6 were Featured articles, 13 were A-Class articles and 22 were Good articles. In addition 43 newly created or expanded articles were successfully submitted for the 'Did you know' section on Wikipedia's main page. Our warmest congratulations go to the medallists and finalists, and our grateful thanks go to all participants and particularly to Eurocopter for organizing the contest. Would you like to get more involved in the project? There are many open tasks that could use your help. The project's review department is always in need of input at peer reviews, A-class reviews, FACs and FARs; these can be found here. Also, the project maintains a list of deletion debates for military-related articles that have been nominated for deletion; project members are encouraged to provide their opinions in this forum so that consensus can be established. Finally, if content creation is more what you are looking for, each of the project's 48 task forces maintains a list of requested articles. Your comments are invited in the following ongoing project discussions: Pre-emptive disambiguation. Since 2006 our in-house style guide has recommended disambiguating the titles of articles about military units whether another article of the same name exists or not. The continued need for this practice is under discussion. Merging the Australian and New Zealand task forces. This is the final call for editors to have their say in choosing a name for the shortly-to-be-merged Australian and New Zealand task forces.
Contest department The Contest Department has completed its thirty-fifth month of competition. A total of 66 articles were entered by ten editors. Kumioko came first with 105 points, followed by Lordoliver with 79. They receive the Chevrons and Writer's Barnstar respectively. Honorable mentions go to Auntieruth55 (75), Ian Rose (53), Parsecboy (35), and Historical Perspective (31). Binksternet, Cirt, Radeksz and YellowMonkey also fielded entries. Please submit any articles you are working on for the April contest.
Awards and honours The WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves has been awarded to: Nick-D in recognition of his long and distinguished service as a coordinator of this project from February 2008 to March 2010; sterling efforts on "big picture" subjects, including ten featured articles; and his tireless participation in discussion and review. Sturmvogel 66 in recognition of his distinguished service as a coordinator of this project, extraordinary performance within the Henry Allingham World War I Contest and other extremely valuable contributions to the project. The A-Class medal has been awarded to: Auntieruth55 for her work on Siege of Godesberg (1583), Karl Aloys zu Fürstenberg and Army of the Danube. Kumioko for his work on Smedley Butler, Michael J. Daly and Michael P. Murphy. The A-Class medal with Oak Leaves has been awarded to: Ian Rose for his work on Alexander Pentland, Oswald Watt and Roderic Dallas.
Editorial: Translating article writing to real life I (Ed) am a college student in the United States, and as part of attaining my desired degree, I chose to take a course in Arab-Islamic history. We began in the early 600s and spent some time on the origins of the Islamic conquering of the Sassanid Empire and partial takeover of the Byzantine Empire (c. 634–750). From there, we have moved through the various ages of history, and the class recently began discussing the Ottoman Empire and other Islamic regions of more recent times. As we began discussing the Ottoman Empire's role in the First World War, our professor mentioned that they were blockading the Bosphorus, using it as a chokepoint to cut off needed supplies traveling to Russia's only warm-water port, Sevastopol. An astute classmate, realizing this meant the use of warships, wondered what naval technology was like during this time. The professor turned and asked me to answer the question, as he knew I had been studying naval history and believed that I knew more about the subject. The point of this anecdote is not to boast, but to provoke some thought. By virtue of the research Wikipedia writers must do to write complete, referenced articles, many of us are acquiring knowledge in specialized topics that can surpass even learned scholars. Wikipedia might even provoke some of us into becoming learned scholars through the subjects we find here. To profile one such case, take a look at Parsecboy. Beginning in May 2007, he came across a few essentially empty stubs on German battleship classes. Nearly 3 years later, he's written or collaborated on more than forty articles rated as good or higher, including over a dozen featured articles and a featured list; the majority relate to German warships. The work Parsecboy has done for Wikipedia has had a tremendous impact on his academic career: to complete his undergraduate degree, Parsecboy is currently writing an Honors Thesis that will analyze the British and German battlecruiser squadrons during the First World War. Parsecboy plans to attend graduate school and continue his research in the area, culminating in a dissertation. He comments that "without a doubt, I would not have had nearly as much knowledge and interest in the topic, nor would I have known where to begin researching if I had not become so involved with the topic here on Wikipedia." The knowledge you acquire through writing Wikipedia articles will remain with you for the rest of your life. Try to find a way to use it to your advantage. —Ed (talk • majestic titan) and Parsecboy (talk)
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Hello. I'm not proud to say it, but if you find time, consider checking GenLt Hartwig von Ludwiger. I've significantly expanded it today, and I'm afraid there will be a lot of mistakes. I'm not asking for any extra information because I know it's chaotic, but any feedback about his awards (apart from the RK) would be appreciated. Jake V (talk) 21:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks for the advice. I re-organized sources and fixed references where appropriate (I thought though that it was somehow wise to keep the reference for hs full name in the middle of the sentence). Feel absolutely free to make radical changes, if needed, to those articles. You are far more experienced and I'm sure this will help a lot in enhancing their quality. Jake V (talk) 15:49, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Fixed date format. I'll keep it in mind for the future. Jake V (talk) 18:52, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

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will you review my students' article on the Effect of WWI on children in the US? I'll do the prince later today. Auntieruth55 (talk) 17:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

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will you chime in on War of the Bavarian Succession now at FAC? Auntieruth55 (talk) 18:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

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Wee Bit Odd Question

Hi MisterBee,

I am currently between articles, waiting on the GA review of JG 11 and Luftwaffe Organization. So if you have bandwidth constraints but have some article in mind that you wish expansion, let me know. I did go looking into . it does not seem to have any priority articles. I may still choose something there or the next one in my chronology, JG 2. Please share your thoughts. '  Perseus 71 ^talk 01:26, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Umlauts

Hi MisterBee, just to let you know, I have left a query about umlauts on the talk page of the Knights Cross (G) article which might interest you. Regards RASAM (talk) 19:18, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

RE: Jagdgeschwader 11 Review

Hi MisterBee,

I agree with your point. However, I am not in a position to go hunt for the said book and Google Books does not offer any preview. I will try my luck on MILHISt Logistics Dept. If that does not work then I will have to wait till I could get access to this work. '  Perseus 71 ^talk 02:22, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Have you been following this review? Am I being unreasonable in asking for more operational data, most likely from Prien's books?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:43, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

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GUNTHER SPECHT

Hi Misterebee,

As always thanks for letting me know. You are welcome to change any time you want. That's why I always use {{construct}}. Your tidbit does help. I have a sinking feeling that I am not going to get a whole lot of content on Specht. It will be a miracle if I could take it past B. I have to try though. I did notice you were making changes. I was going to stop mine, thinking you were in the middle of an expansion.

You wouldn't happen to have the page number in Zorner's book ? Any interesting bits he references from those two books ? Thanks in advance and no you are not stepping anywhere. You can make all the changes you want.'  Perseus 71 ^talk 03:17, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

You have changed Anton Dickfeld to Adolf Dickfeld. From this link, you can see that Caldwell & Muller P 91 talks about one Anton Dickfeld that started in JG 52 and ended leading Flieger-HitlerJugend in RLM. This guy would seem different from Adolf Dickfeld. What do you think ? '  Perseus 71 ^talk 02:38, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Ok I am convinced. Especially by your [4] and [5]. Both of them successfully tie what's in the article on him as well as what I discovered on Hitler youth. Obviously Caldwell et. el have got it wrong. Thanks for making me more knowledgeable.

P.S. What's the page number for Zorner's book on the EJG/ZG 26 training and other facts?'  Perseus 71 ^talk 02:05, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the page Numbers. I have started to incorporate this information. '  Perseus 71 ^talk 16:37, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : L (April 2010)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue L (April 2010)
From the coordinators It's been a month since the end of the coordinator elections, and I am proud to inform the project that the IX coordinator tranche is doing well. Our new coordinators are rapidly learning the ropes, and the last of the task forces under consideration for merging have been consolidated into a new task force which should increase productivity and improve quality article output. At the moment the coordinators are discussing preliminary plans for an improved version of The Bugle, and are working with editors from the American Civil War task force who are in the process of organizing a new special project relating to that conflict. It is our hope to see these changes implemented in the upcoming month. Lastly, as many of our members are also in school, we extend our best wishes to all who will be taking final exams both this month and next. For the IX coordinator tranche, TomStar81 (Talk) 22:36, 30 April 2010 (UTC)	Articles of note New featured articles: Battle of Dürenstein Battle of Pulo Aura Battle of Taejon Battle of The Cedars Brougham Castle Cleomenean War Harry Chauvel Japanese battleship Yamato Lester Brain Myles Standish Roderic Dallas USS President (1800) War of the Bavarian Succession New featured lists: Order of battle at the Battle of Camperdown New featured topics: Yamato class battleships New featured portals: Biological warfare New A-Class articles: 22nd Regiment Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry Battle of Chochiwon Battle of Chonan Battle of Naktong Bulge Battle of Pyongtaek Battle of Slater's Knoll Battle of The Cedars Battle of Valcour Island Brian Eaton Douglas MacArthur Heinrich Prinz zu Sayn-Wittgenstein HMAS Australia (1911) Kongō class battlecruiser‎ List of battleships of Germany Massachusetts in the American Civil War Operation Sandblast Order of Saint Hubert (Bavarian) Ordnance QF 25-pounder Short Petlyakov Pe-3 SMS Helgoland Sovetsky Soyuz class battleship
Project news With consensus reached on a new name, the project's Australian military history and New Zealand military history task forces have been merged to form the Australia, New Zealand and South Pacific military history task force (shortcut: WP:ANZSP). Under its wider remit, this task force will also include those islands and regions of the South Pacific not covered by our Southeast Asian military history task force. Coordinators Ian Rose and AustralianRupert have transferred across and will continue to serve as coordinators for the ANZSP task force.
Contest department The Contest Department has completed its thirty-sixth month of competition. A total of 50 articles were entered by eight editors. Parsecboy came first with 126 points, followed by Ian Rose with 73. They receive the Chevrons and Writer's Barnstar respectively. Honorable mentions go to Historical Perspective (72), Auntieruth55 (62), and Kumioko (30). Lordoliver, Binksternet and LeonidasSpartan also fielded entries. Please submit any articles you are working on for the May contest.
Awards and honours The A-Class medal has been awarded to: Auntieruth55 for her work on Battle of Dürenstein, War of the Bavarian Succession and Order of Saint Hubert (Bavarian). Ed! twice for his work on Battle of Osan, Battle of Taejon, Battle of Pyongtaek, Battle of Naktong Bulge, Battle of Chonan and Battle of Chochiwon. Magicpiano for his work on Battle of Ticonderoga (1759), Siege of Fort Ticonderoga (1777) and Battle of The Cedars. Nick-D for his work on Dutch 1913 battleship proposal, No. 1 Wing RAAF and Ordnance QF 25-pounder Short. Saberwyn for his work on Collins class submarine, HMAS Sydney (R17) and HMAS Australia (1911). Sturmvogel 66 for his work on HMS Lion (1910), Yermolayev Yer-2 and Sovetsky Soyuz class battleship. The A-Class medal with Oak Leaves has been awarded to: Hawkeye7 for his work on Vernon Sturdee, Harry Chauvel and Douglas MacArthur. Ian Rose for his work on Allan Walters, Lester Brain and Brian Eaton. Parsecboy for his work on SMS Goeben, SMS Helgoland and List of battleships of Germany.
Editorial: Milhist's special projects This month we're taking a look at the Military history WikiProject's special projects. At present we have three—Operation Great War Centennial, Operation Majestic Titan, and Operation Normandy—with, as Tom mentions in his introduction, a fourth coming on line as this newsletter goes out. Operation Great War Centennial Officially the longest running of our special projects, this started in December 2008 with the ambitious goal of improving our core articles relating to the First World War by June 2014. As it states on the project's page, "the centenary of the start of World War I ... will doubtless be a mammoth commemoration of one of the most significant wars in history, attracting vast interest from schools, universities, veterans groups and the media. It offers us the chance to showcase what a brilliant resource Wikipedia is". With World War I receiving well over 20,000 page views per day on most days, the truth of these words is evident and the opportunity too good to miss. Operation Great War Centennial has compiled a list of over 300 articles covering topics such as battles, geographical areas, people, armaments, and technology; while some have achieved featured or good status, the majority are at B-Class or below, so there is plenty there for willing editors to get their teeth into. Operation Majestic Titan The home of our much-respected and admired "Battleship Cabal", Operation Majestic Titan started in June 2009 with the aim of creating the "single largest featured topic on Wikipedia, centered around the battleships considered, planned, built, operated, canceled, or otherwise recorded." At time of writing the prolific Majestic Titan team has produced an impressive 33 featured articles, 19 A-Class, 60 good articles, three featured topics and six good topics. According to the project's working list, there are only 427 more articles to go... Operation Normandy Although it first appeared in Milhist's pages in March 2010, this project had been formerly operating out of Cam's userspace as the "Normandy Team" since May 2008, making it a contender for our longest-running unofficial special project. Operation Normandy is aiming to create a Featured Topic on the Second World War Battle of Normandy by the 70th Anniversary of D-Day on 6 June 2014. With nine featured articles so far and 29 more to go, progress has been steady. More help, however, is always welcome. Our fourth special project, American Civil War Sesquicentennial, is in the process of organising and at present lacks a name (see this discussion if you have any suggestions). The project will be looking to improve Wikipedia's coverage of the American Civil War by its sesquicentennial anniversary in 2011. The beginning of a drive is always an exciting time to get involved, so interested editors are strongly encouraged to drop by and sign up. Special projects are a great way of organising a long-term collaboration with a specific end-point in mind, and tend to be more goal-oriented and focused than the general task forces or informal working groups. Joining a special project is also a fantastic way to work alongside like-minded editors with whom you'll undoubtedly develop close working relationships; by your third or fourth FA submission you'll hopefully be operating as part of a well-oiled team. Editor roles are many and varied: content writers, source material providers, image- and map-makers, copy editors, reviewers, MoS gurus, wikignomes, specialists and generalists... you're sure to find a job that suits you and benefits the team. If you have an idea for a special project or are already undertaking a collaboration that you think fits in with the ethos of those above, and you'd like to benefit from Milhist's support and infrastructure, consider dropping the coordinators a note. Personally I've found the synergy and teamwork of contributing to a special project (Operation Normandy in my case) to be one of the most rewarding and enjoyable aspects of my time here. I hope you will too. EyeSerenetalk 14:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
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Capitalization of German Terms

Hi Misterbee,

Good Catch. My intention is to make the German terms InitCap. I am very aware of how you feel on this topic. As you can see I am being haphazard in organizing content. I intended my own copy-ed after getting existing content sorted into correct section. Will make sure to keep the point in mind.

Ernst von Leyser

Hello. Unfortunately, not the Wehrmachtbericht this time :), but I'd want you to add reference(s) from Fellgiebel and/or Scherzer. I wasn't able to find any more awards neither in the usual sources nor in the image, so any additions would be, needless to say, appreciated. Keep up the good work! Grüße Jake V (talk) 17:29, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Superb! Thank you! Jake V (talk) 07:50, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Nice one! Of course, I'll need a lot of help in writing his biography; I'll start expanding it in my sandbox as soon as I receive the first information piece. Jake V (talk) 10:12, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Crinius

Crinius. Looks like he ran for office. Auntieruth55 (talk) 18:36, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

• Looks like.....Wilhelm Crinius (50), bisher Direktor bei der Deutsche Philips GmbH,'ist zum Vorsitzenden der Geschäftsführung der Ernst Düllmann GmbH bestellt worden. .here Auntieruth55 (talk) 01:05, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Oh, and there might be something on him (perhaps his wife's name) in here ? Auntieruth55 (talk) 01:14, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Ernst von Leyser

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Wehrmachtberichte for Alexander Löhr

Many thanks for the DYK, of course!

The WB are needed mainly for this one, but since the guy had 10 references, ignore the request unless you have the time. I've got those for 12 October 1941 and 30 (? - either LdW or ww2awards is wrong) May 1942 from LdW, so for those a page and volume reference is enough. The missing wordings are for 12 and 23 April 1941, 8 August 1941, 11 October 1941, 19 and 20 May 1942, 26 June 1944, 19 January and 9 May 1945. If you are too busy to translate them and place them in the article, just put them in bulk in my sandbox. Jake V (talk) 19:59, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : LI (May 2010)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter Issue LI (May 2010)
From the coordinators With Eurocopter's resignation (see editorial below), this month marks the end of his tenure as a project coordinator. Eurocopter has been with the team for almost three years now and will be sorely missed, but he has taken the tough decision that his real life commitments have unfortunately made it too hard for him to focus on his coordinator duties. We wish him good luck in the future, both in real life and on-wiki. Efforts to redesign The Bugle are moving forward and it is our intention to roll out a new format, based on the Signpost, for next month's issue. We hope that this will allow us to provide better coverage of the project's news by allowing more room to expand on the stories we bring to you. If you have any comments or suggestions on what we can do to improve coverage, please let us know. —your IX Coordinator Tranche, May 2010	Articles of note New featured articles: Action of 1 August 1801 Battle of Villers-Bocage Brian Eaton HMAS Australia (1911) HMS Lion (1910) Japanese battleship Tosa New featured lists: List of battleships of Germany New A-Class articles: 102nd Intelligence Wing Battle of Quebec (1775) Bombing of Yawata (June 1944) Deutschland class battleship Indiana class battleship Russian battleship Slava SMS Erzherzog Franz Ferdinand SMS Hannover William Ellis Newton
Project news With consensus reached on a name the American Civil War task force has officially opened our newest special project. Codenamed Brothers at War, its goal will be "...to improve [US Civil War] related Wikipedia articles to featured status, and to see as many of these as possible appear on the main page on their respective 150th anniversaries." The straw poll concerning preemptive disambiguation of military units as outlined by our Manual of Style has been closed, with near unanimous consensus that the current practice of preemptive disambiguation be retained. Thanks to everyone who participated in either the discussion or the straw poll. Members of Operation Majestic Titan have adopted a three-tiered award system to show appreciation to those who have done work on battleship or battlecruiser articles. Formally known as the Titan's Cross, the award has been issued to Parsecboy, Climie.ca, The ed17, and MBK004. The project's official IRC channel (#wikipedia-en-milhist) has been restarted. Project members and anyone interested in military history are encouraged to join us for substantive discussions, social discourse and a few laughs. Instructions on how to get on IRC are available here.
Contest department The Contest Department has completed its thirty-seventh month of competition. A total of 119 articles were entered by nine editors. Buggie111 came first with 139 points, followed by The Bushranger with 120. They receive the Chevrons and Writer's Barnstar respectively. Honorable mentions go to Sturmvogel 66 (115), Parsecboy (86), Ian Rose (56) and Auntieruth55 (52). The ed17, LeonidasSpartan and Historical Perspective also fielded entries. Please submit any articles you are working on for the June contest.
Awards and honours The A-Class medal has been awarded to: Sturmvogel 66 for HMAS Australia (1911), Petlyakov Pe-3 and Russian battleship Slava. The A-Class medal with Oak Leaves has been awarded to: Parsecboy for Deutschland class battleship, SMS Erzherzog Franz Ferdinand and SMS Hannover.
Editorial: Project coordination and constructive editing For those of you who might not know me, I'm Eurocopter. I served as a coordinator of the Military history WikiProject from August 2007 until few days ago, when I decided to resign due to real life issues making it impossible for me to continue to perform project duties on a regular basis. Reflecting on my experience and activities within the project, I decided to write this editorial to set out a few thoughts and offer some advice to interested members. First of all, what does project coordination mean and how does it help the Military history WikiProject? Although the coordinators do not have any real executive powers, they play an important role in project management. To make editing contributions easier for our members we establish guidelines, manage Peer and A-Class reviews, and consult and assist when needed. The primary goal of the coordination team has always been to stimulate the development of quality articles and, once they have been developed, to facilitate maintaining them at a high standard for as long as possible. This has been carried out through the organization of a considerable number of assessment drives, contests and special projects. However, there is still much to be done to make the project one of the best and most active wiki-communities. Coordinator involvement in trying to achieve this, as the central promoters of any activity undertaken within the project, is more than important; the coordination team should stand as an example of civilised and constructive cooperation. Perhaps the most annoying issue—unfortunately quite widespread through the pages of Wikipedia—is POV-dominated conflict. While such a phenomenon might seem inevitable in a community within which hundreds of members of different nationalities with different historical and political views interact, it doesn’t mean we should accept it. The ability to neutrally mediate such conflicts is an important and desirable coordinator function. Secondly, but most importantly in my opinion, is the question of how the project enables editors to contribute effectively. Perhaps you already know how difficult it is to take an article to the highest quality levels such as A-Class or featured status. It is even harder to do this working alone. I believe the best thing the Military history WikiProject has done is to bring together groups of editors with similar interests. As there are very few editors skilled in all the diverse article development areas, you might feel the need for help from editors more experienced in, for example, advanced copy editing, image editing etc. To this end the project provides task forces and special projects where members should always feel encouraged to ask questions, discuss, debate and give advice. Such cooperation is the best way to create properly balanced articles and to establish a neutral point of view. Our Style guide and Academy are also useful in guiding you along the path of writing an article. A final, but vital, part of the collaborative article writing process is editor behaviour when interacting with other editors who are contributing to the same article. Even on those occasions where an editor upsets you or allows their personal opinions to influence their editing, always remain calm, civil and try to reach an agreement. Contributing to Wikipedia is something most of us do as a hobby; time spent in useless conflicts is precious editing time wasted. All in all, the Military history WikiProject is a good meeting point for milhist-interested editors, both beginners and advanced, with someone always there to give help and advice when needed. I wish to thank all my fellow coordinators and project members who keep this beautiful community running. I will certainly miss it! Best regards and happy wiki-editing! Eurocopter (talk) 20:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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Helmut Lent

Was Lent's wife's maiden name "Peterson" or "Petersen"? The text of the article uses both spellings and I could not get a clear answer from online sources. Thanks, caknuck _° needs to be running more often 03:27, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Wehrmachtbericht for J. Blaskowitz

A single one, for Johannes Blaskowitz (27 Sept. 1939), needless to say, still no need to rush it with Löhr Jake V (talk) 12:12, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Please, take you time! Jake V (talk) 19:13, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, I've noticed and I have just finished the translation in my language. It sure helps a lot. Danke schön --Jake V (talk) 08:47, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Otto Pollmann

I notice you wrote a page on Otto Pollman and added this source; I’ve just had a glance at the back catalogue there; would you describe them as a reliable source? Xyl 54 (talk) 12:13, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

I’m OK with the notion he claimed 14 successes, or was credited with them; if Schaulen says he was credited with 14 then the statement is verifiable (I’ve put the reference back in BTW- I thought it was the source of that “most successful submarine hunter" comment)

what I’m querying is the (pretty fanciful) account at the "read-all-about-it" website which, apart from anything else, looks like the repository of a lot of (fairly nasty) fringe theories. I've put an explanation on the talk page.

My assumption about HMS Tigris is based on not finding any other losses attributable to Pollman; the list is here,but I've explained in detail on the talk page. Xyl 54 (talk) 01:03, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

GAs and oil

I've found some additional material that I'll add tomorrow and monday and will let you know. Regarding the oil, it's a political and environmental nightmare. Yes, he should take a stronger stance with BP, but it's going to be difficult since BP is a foreign company. I heard that this weekend he's having a conversation with the British PM, although I'm not sure where that will lead, since BP is a cultural icon in Britain. BP seems to have taken a bunch of shortcuts in drilling the well, including using a cheaper emergency shut off valve, and appears to have been understating also the amount of oil coming out of the valve. Clearly, at this point, they are trying to salvage the well, not necessarily salvage the Gulf, and this is infuriating. The oil will be in Europe at some point, probably later this summer. The amount of damage they have caused is unfathomable. I'm not sure what the president can actually do about it, now that it has happened. I would have hoped that the the requirements were made to use the right possible equipment, but apparently they did not drill the relief wells, which most other companies drill.

The last oyster harvest has finished and the oysters have left the warehouse; the industry is closed until further notice -- indefinitely-- which means thousands out of work.auntieruth (talk) 16:50, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm going out of town tomorrow for the weekend, but will get to Klein, etc., when I get back. In the meantime, Gunther E. Rothenberg and Ramsay Weston Phipps are in GA awaiting some attention. These have a lot more info, although no pictures. auntieruth (talk) 18:54, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

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question

I could use some help on something, and if you could email me, I'll fill you in on the details. auntieruth (talk) 21:39, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Marseille

Now university is over I'm able to pay more attention to aces and aircraft again. I was reading in Tate that his medals were stolen from a Museum. Perhaps this should be mentioned? Do you have confirmation about this Bf 109 is the US that they claim Marseille flew? Is there a good chance of it being so? Dapi89 (talk) 11:01, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Done. Dapi89 (talk) 10:28, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

I have no online reference for this Bf 109. I don't have the book either, although I seem to remember alerting you to its availablility a while back when we were discussing 'the crash 109'. Dapi89 (talk) 10:31, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Tate might have made a mistake to include the Ds. I think he meant the OLs and Ss. The book is full of mistakes, particularly the dates - probably mostly printing errors. Dapi89 (talk) 20:16, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Klein and Defrance ready

Louis Klein and Jean-Marie Defrance should be good to go now. I've got a couple of others in far better shape Ramsay Weston Phipps, Gunther E. Rothenberg, and Michel Ordener. I'll follow up on that email in a day or two as well. auntieruth (talk) 21:27, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Louis Klein? Does it need more? auntieruth (talk) 15:27, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : LII (June 2010)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter: Issue LII (June 2010) Front page Project news Articles Members Editorial

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List of Commando raids on the Atlantic wall

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I have added a tag to this as I believe you still away ? --Jim Sweeney (talk) 11:28, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

List

Welcome back thanks for teh suggestion but I am unable to get the template to work with dates like 26/27 June ? --Jim Sweeney (talk) 13:11, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Werner Kreipe

Hello. Do you have time to put together a basic article on Kreipe. I don't have the sources. Dapi89 (talk) 10:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks. Dapi89 (talk) 21:37, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes. I had a mind to buy it. It might be a good view from the inside. Dapi89 (talk) 09:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Bodenplatte

I have nominated it for GA. What do you make of it? Are you able to review it? Dapi89 (talk) 10:54, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Coningham was C-in-C RAF 2/TAC Air Force rseponsible for air superiority operations in the region. Ninth US Air Force was handed over to Conningham for the Bulge operation. Doolittle was C-in-C Eighth Air Force. It was present on the area, so I put him in the commanders box. Dapi89 (talk) 12:13, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

A recce mission = reconnaissance. Dapi89 (talk) 12:25, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

As far as I can see, he was only the co-ordinator of the Middle Rhine Fighter Sector (JG 2, 4, 11 and 53). JG Division 5 may have come under his command (Girbig says). He organised them and informed the GK about the mission, but the operation was under the co-ordination of Peltz. Dapi89 (talk) 15:24, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

He took part in the meeting of 5 December and met his GK. He told them the target and that Peltz was to lead the op. I am not sure how much he contributed to target selection, dates, orbat, forces etc. Dapi89 (talk) 15:38, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Unternehmen Paula

I've just about exhausted all the sources I have on this subject. Do have anything else? Do you think it might pass a GA? Dapi89 (talk) 17:05, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay. I'll tie the two together. It was the only strategic operation launched by an air force during the campaign. It did not achieve its goals in a strategic sense and the ALA remained active and was not destroyed. Dapi89 (talk) 09:09, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Forces involved: I am unsure which JG escorted which KG. So I have written it down rather than employed a table. Dapi89 (talk) 10:58, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Adolf Galland

After our collaboration on Marseille, I was hoping we could get this one to Featured article status. Its about time he had a decent article. Cheers. Dapi89 (talk) 16:43, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

I think we're off to a decent start with the HC stuff. Hopefully it is detailed enough without being too long. I tried to stick to the key issues. Dapi89 (talk) 20:46, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Do you think the High Command information is a fair reflection of the key issues? Dapi89 (talk) 14:24, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

No. I havn't read it. I have the First & the Last though. I wanted to save it for the personnal issues and perhaps use it in the HC sections. I was unsure though, if it was 100% objective (as it was written by Galland himself). If there is any problems with the edits I have made - they may be incomplete or semi-distorted by Caldwell, Baker and Kaplan - please go a head and ring the changes. And take your time. No rush. Dapi89 (talk) 13:54, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Can you check the award dates with your sources please. Dapi89 (talk) 16:12, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Can you check the details of Galland's post war private life? I remember you said you wanted to stick to his personal life. What do you make of things so far? I think I am going to use The First and the Last now to add some weight to the Baker book. Dapi89 (talk) 23:16, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination for Walter Ohmsen

Hello, please see your nomination of Walter Ohmsen at DYK for comments. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:24, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

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Walter Ohmsen

I liked it. Dapi89 (talk) 19:10, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Walter Ohmsen

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Battle of the Heligoland Bight (1939) ‎

I can't seem to move the light dividing line further to the right. On my computer it looks far too far to the left. Dapi89 (talk) 17:01, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

GA/Walter Ohmsen

B, looks good. I've made some tweaks, etc. You had a few verb choices that seemed odd to me, and a couple other things. Read through and let me know if the meaning has remained the same. left a couple comments on the review page. auntieruth (talk) 18:50, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

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Werner Mölders, Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves in 1941?

Hi, I see you are listed as involved with the Werner Mölders article at the talk page. Could you have a look at my question at Talk:Werner Mölders? Regards, --Kjetil_r 16:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

List of Knight's Cross with Oak Leaves recipients: 1943

I've dropped a few suggestions at the review page. Good luck with the articles. Buggie111 (talk) 14:31, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

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Operation Donnerkeil

Yes. I believe this is in the article - he was promoted Jafu Schiff and took a Comms team on board Scharnhorst. Dapi89 (talk) 09:50, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Cheers Bee. Dapi89 (talk) 12:13, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Adolf Galland

Hello again. Are you able to contribute to the personal life now? I thought perhaps you would be far better off explaining his early life and post-war/later war career. My knowledge extends to the military parts. Dapi89 (talk) 19:50, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

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Otto Kittel

I've made a start on this one. Do you have anything more on his early years? Once more I don't have the details! The Kurowski books say zip about him in this regard. Dapi89 (talk) 09:56, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

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dropping the ball

I really dropped the ball on your article. I apologize. I'm trying to finish my dissertation. Not an excuse, of course, but a reason for my absence. Am I forgiven? auntieruth (talk) 21:22, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

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Otto Kittel

Can you add the Wehrmachtbericht, if any? What do you think? The date of birth for Manfred Kittel is not in the source, but it mentions he was 62 at the time of publishing in 2007 (Kurowski's book I mean) to it stands to reason it was sometime in 1945. Dapi89 (talk) 15:59, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I'm sorry about the deletions, it was required by the GA. I didn't want to take them out and I don't agree with the policy. Nice changes. Dapi89 (talk) 11:22, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Nazi Germany versus German Reich or Greater German Reich

Since when has been technically correct meant much to Wikipedia! I agree the term GGR is the correct term, but arguing the case may not get you anywhere. I favour just "Germany" with the Swastika icon. Dapi89 (talk) 13:24, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

I think that term may have been plagiarised by the Germans! I agree. I just tried it on the Kittel page, but I think now that a distinction needs to be made between just "Germany" (modern) and Nazi Germany (33-45). I think GGR is the better way to get this message across. Problem is the Germany link only goes to the modern nation, while N' Germ' goes to the Third Reich era and GGR is a mouthful. Dapi89 (talk) 13:35, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Douglas Bader

Could you add that please? Dapi89 (talk) 16:07, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Dunker :) Dapi89 (talk) 20:36, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Galland and Tuck

Thanks. Dapi89 (talk) 11:33, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

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Galland

Do you think it is ready for GA? I think I have covered everything in as much detail as I dare. Dapi89 (talk) 09:37, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Do you mind expanding on those parts, as you will understand better what you want? I take it you mean the points about his early gliding career and how that led to his interest in aviation. Dapi89 (talk)

I did it without waiting. Do you think it is enough. Dapi89 (talk) 18:02, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

I've nominated it. As our resident expert on German personnel, both obscure and famous, hope you can help with the review. Dapi89 (talk) 11:48, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm crap with computer language and I don't know the icon for what you want. I tried it and failed. Sorry. Dapi89 (talk) 11:32, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok. I changed the wording to make the article says this. You can put it back where it was if you like. No need for the note now. Dapi89 (talk) 09:48, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Do you think it is worth mentioning the Diamonds story - when Hitler gave him dud ones only for Goring to realise they were stones not diamonds. Dapi89 (talk) 18:23, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Goltz

You're right, actually I thought the abbreviation would be more appropriate throughout the main part. Nevertheless feel free to change it, as I'm a bit short of time these days. All the best, --Jake V (talk) 18:08, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Speaking of abbreviations, by the way, do you know what "z.V." stands for? I have encountered it mostly on officers with the rank of Generalmajor or Generalleutnant, usually aged individuals who were called back from retirement before the outbreak of WWII --Jake V (talk) 19:11, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

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von Malapert

Seems okay. Dapi89 (talk) 18:10, 31 October 2010 (UTC)