Peter I. Vardy

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Chester Castle listed building

Hi Peter – season's greetings to you. I was out and about in Chester on Christmas Day (taking advantage of the quiet streets!) and photographed the artillery stores in Chester Castle (right) – but I can't find an entry in any of your "Grade II listed buildings in Chester" articles. I assume it should fall under Grade II listed buildings in Chester (south) but before I create a new entry, can you confirm I haven't missed it somewhere else? Dave.Dunford (talk) 18:20, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy Christmas, David! I agree; I cannot find it in any of the lists. I should be very happy for you to add it to "south". I remember being somewhat confused about the buildings around the castle at the time.

Thanks – done. Dave.Dunford (talk) 20:41, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Dave for adding the item. On reflection, "south" refers to south of the river, so I have moved it into the "central" list, where it more correctly fits. Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:57, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

North Yorkshire

Very happy to see you are moving on to North Yorkshire! I will try to write articles on the more notable buildings after you've created the corresponding articles.

Great work once again on the Nottinghamshire series. I think you're just missing articles on listed buildings in the two Gamstons?

Happy New Year! Warofdreams talk 19:58, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year to you too! And thanks for your comments. Gamston, Rushcliffe has only one LB, so that does not make a list - perhaps a reference to it could be made in the village article. I did miss Gamston, Bassetlasw, which has 5 LBs, so I will prepare a list for that. Best wishes, --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:51, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Boughton Lodge

Hi I was about to add this article to the Listed buildings in Great Boughton as that seems the right place for it but I wondered if you thought it didn’t belong there for some reason? Thanks Mccapra (talk) 06:46, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Wow, that takes me back over 10 years. Thanks for your interest. Since the lists were created, Cheshire has been bedevilled by boundary changes. Great Boughton was then a civil parish, but now no longer. Boughton Lodge was not in the parish, but in the eastern part of the city of Chester, known as Boughton (sometime confusingly as Great Boughton). So I included Boughton Lodge in the city list rather than the parish list. Today, I have altered the text of the Great Boughton list, and in the Chester list have linked the Lodge and added the photo from the Lodge article (which I discover I created 13 years ago but later failed to link in the list). Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Then my work here is done! I thought the reason might be to do with boundaries and didn’t want to mess up your work. Thanks for sorting it all out. Mccapra (talk) 10:34, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Lumb near Edenfield (Lancs)

Hi Peter. I was out and about on the Greater Manchester/Lancashire border last week and photographed a couple of listed buildings in Lumb, near Edenfield. I think these should be in Listed buildings in Rawtenstall but I can't find them. Buildings are Lumb Old Hall, Lumb Viaduct and Lumb Bridge. Any idea where the might be or where I should add them? Dave.Dunford (talk) 11:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Dave. It's the nightmare of unparished areas and finding all the included buildings. I did miss these listed buildings and have now added them. Cheers.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:16, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Query

Hello! I'm a long time lurker and admirer of your listed building lists. Do you know which of the Eaton Hall estate lodges was the home of Anne Grosvenor, Duchess of Westminster? Christies wrote that "After her husband's death, Nancy moved to a charming smaller house in the park at Eaton in Cheshire that had been built as a gamekeeper's lodge in the style of a 'cottage orné', with a luncheon room for shooting parties".[1] "Eaton Lodge" is routinely used in references, but it hardly narrows it down on the NHLE. Regards - No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:17, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) - It's the one that looks like this, [2] and it was available for rent, but the brochure just gives a 404 error now. The article says it's Douglas work, so it may be in his biography, which I think Peter has. My copy's in a box but I'll look it up when I can. KJP1 (talk) 14:25, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Fancy meeting you here .... I've found archived brochure but no photos alas. I assume it's listed, but it has had so much work done. No Swan So Fine (talk) 15:01, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, but I cannot be sure. The estate agent says it was designed by John Douglas, which narrows it a bit. Listed buildings in Eaton, west Cheshire includes three buildings with the title "Lodge" designed by Douglas, Upper Belgrave Lodge, Stud Lodge, and Belgrave Lodge. I don't have a copy of the biography. Good luck, --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:08, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Brompton, west North Yorkshire

I found a convenient list of the listed buildings in the other Brompton: [3]. Warofdreams talk 21:34, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Many thanks. I have just started Brompton-on-Swale, which will be followed by the "other Brompton". Cheers. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 07:17, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Broughton, Craven

Here's the list for the Broughton which has more than one listed building: [4]. Warofdreams talk 14:05, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks (lots of boundary stones!). --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 14:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Carlton in Cleveland

Nice work on competing the many, many North Yorkshire parishes beginning with B! I thought this link to the listed buildings in Carlton in Cleveland might be useful. Warofdreams talk 00:54, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for filling the gaps in the index of BLB. And also thanks to you for writing articles on many important listed buildings previously overlooked. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 07:51, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Pilsley, Derbyshire Dales

Hi Peter. When you were compiling your lists for Derbyshire, did you accidentally miss Pilsley, Derbyshire Dales? It's a village and civil parish with a number of listed buildings. There's another Pilsley in Derbyshire (covered at Listed buildings in Pilsley, North East Derbyshire) which might be a reason for the omission. Dave.Dunford (talk) 09:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes, I missed it. Will do it. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 10:30, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Done. Photo opportunities? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:19, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Indeed. I was looking at the Wiki Loves Monuments map and noticed there were rich pickings to be had. I can feel a trip coming on. Thanks for the new article. Dave.Dunford (talk) 16:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 14 § Museum collections

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The Yealands

Hallo Peter, two parishes have been combined into one. I don't know to what extent you keep the lists of listed buildings up to date in cases like this, but you might, or might not, want to merge Listed buildings in Yealand Conyers and Listed buildings in Yealand Redmayne.

(As an aside, if the coords links include "|region:GB", then a click on them offers UK-specific links eg to OS maps on Bing or Streetmap, which can be helpful. A thought: maybe upgrading all those links in all those lists is something someone could write a bot to do as a one-off? I don't know much about bot requests.) PamD 11:07, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Pam. Thanks for your message. Keeping up with changes in parishes is a nightmare. I feel fully occupied with providing links to as many listed buildings as possible in at least a "good enough" manner. At present, I am ploughing through North Yorkshire, which has more parishes than I expected. I would be very happy for someone to make the changes you suggest, but do not feel I have the commitment to do this myself at present. Sorry. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:24, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

I might have a go some time at merging the two Yealands (just down the road from here), and perhaps tweak their coords as I do so. But ought to be getting on with some Real Life stuff. I think I'll make a suggestion at WP: UK Geography about the idea of a bot to fix all coords. All the best, on a miserably wet day. PamD 11:33, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Good idea. It's maybe a bit to do with a balance between comprehensiveness and perfection. The rain has only just started here - north Cheshire. Best wishes, --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 12:45, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Well I decided to go ahead and create Listed buildings in The Yealands (capitalisation of "The" as in Listed buildings in The Gorge, after a bit of thought). I know I still need to reorder the table entries into chronological sequence, but I think everything else has survived my meddling. I'd be reassured if you'd have a look at it, in case I missed any subtleties!

I need to add the War Memorial, but it's lunchtime. Thanks for all your amazing work on these lists! PamD 12:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Well done! It looks fine to me. And thanks for the comments - much appreciated. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 12:13, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Austin and Paley

Greetings Peter – hope all is well! Taking you back some years to your fine work on the Austin and Paley partnership and its variants: while browsing the Hampshire: South edition of the Pevsner Architectural Guides just now I spotted a quote which might be useful. Not sure where to put it, so I'll leave it here if you wish to use it: Temple Moore and Austin & Paley [were] the most original Gothicists working c.1900. (It's comparing the young Giles Gilbert Scott to them in relation to his first church design.) Citation template: O'Brien, Charles; Bailey, Bruce; Pevsner, Nikolaus; Lloyd, David W. (2018). Hampshire: South. The Buildings of England. London: Yale University Press. ISBN 978-0-300-22503-7. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 10:55, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello - Good to hear from you again, and thanks for the info. As you know, the partnership in its various forms designed most of its buildings in the northwest, so it is surprising, to me, to see a reference to them in a Hampshire Pevsner, although I don't think that there is a Hampshire church by them, is there? In the last section of the article is a quotation by Pevsner himself, and I do not feel that the quote in the latest Hampshire Pevsner really adds anything, so I will not disturb the article as it stands. But thanks again for the suggestion and for drawing my attention to it. Best wishes, --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 13:52, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Fylingdales Moor

Well done on completing the lengthy listed buildings in Fylingdales. Fylingdales is unusual in that part of the land in the parish is shared with the parish of Hawsker-cum-Stainsacre. British Listed Buildings covers the two buildings in that area here. As the area is essentially Fylingdales Moor, can I suggest creating an article listed buildings in Fylingdales Moor to cover them, and mention it in the intros to both the Fylingdales and upcoming Hawkser lists? Warofdreams talk 21:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. It certainly took some time to complete - nearly, as your link to BLB revels a listed building in Fylingthorpe that I had missed. I fail to understand why this should be in a "combined" parish, when nearby buildings in the village are in Fylingdales. Anyway I am going to add it to the Fylingdales list, which seems to me the pragmatic solution.

Is Fylingdales Moor an officially recognised area? There is no article about it in Wikipedia. I am reluctant to create the article you suggest unless I can link it to an article describing where and what it is. Thoughts? --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 07:45, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

It is an odd situation, a hangover from before the Enclosure Acts. Winchester's Common Land in Britain lists two other examples in England of land lying in multiple parishes (Hamsterley Common in County Durham, and part of Dartmoor around Woodcock Hill), but a quick check suggests neither of those areas have any listed buildings. Fylingdales Moor is a recognised area in that it's the defined area of a Higher Level Stewardship Partnership, and it's a location referred to in various guides, etc. I think that listing the two buildings in the Fylingdales article is a fair solution, so long as there is a note in the Hawkser article about those two buildings in the parish being listed under Fylingdales. Warofdreams talk 20:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Sounds the best plan. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 07:45, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

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