Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1172
Techiya1925
editThis most likely belongs to AE, but I'm not ECR so I'm not sure if I can report there. Apparently Techiya1925 committed several 1RR violations in Talk:November 2024 Amsterdam attacks (which is not even why I'm reporting this here), once confronted with that he began casting aspersions and even doubled down after being told to AGF by an admin.
In his talk page, I got the impression that he's accusing everyone who goes against his POV of being either radical Islamic propagandists
or “they/them” computer geeks who hate Jews
. Previously today he got warned for engaging in an edit war. I don't think that such WP:BATTLEGROUND behaviour is useful for the encyclopedia.— 🧀Cheesedealer !!!⚟ 17:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Please make sure that when you are doing your investigation, you look at everything. From the beginning, to the end. In various discussions on the talk page of the article. Techiya1925 (talk) 17:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've blocked the editor for 24 hours due to their continued personal attacks of fellow users. Considering this has been happening on a CTOP, and their clear battleground behavior, I'd support an indef tban from the topic. Isabelle Belato 🏳🌈 19:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think that was very lenient. I might well have blocked for a much longer time for this. Black Kite (talk) 20:16, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, they should be indefinitely blocked until they can prove otherwise for nonsense like that. C F A 💬 20:26, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Huh, I completely glossed over that part of the comment. That's my bad. I've upgraded the block to indef as an individual admin action, although there is some consensus here for such. Isabelle Belato 🏳🌈 21:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think that was very lenient. I might well have blocked for a much longer time for this. Black Kite (talk) 20:16, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Is anyone going to point out the random, completely unprompted, transphobia? Iostn (talk) 21:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Iostn, do you have any diffs of this behavior? Because I've looked over their talk page comments for the past two days and aside from this diff shared by Black Kite, I can see them getting upset over a contentious subject but that's the only attack I can see. I know there is a no tolerance rule for attacks based on race, gender, gender identity, ethnicity and religion but this does seem like an isolated incident. They should have stepped away from the article and its talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 05:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Liz, I could be wrong but I interpreted
"they/them" computer geeks who hate Jews
as a thinly veiled and staggeringly unfriendly allusion to transgender editors. But perhaps they are only mocking antisemitic editors who prefer the singular they. Anything is possible in The New World. Cullen328 (talk) 07:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC) - @Liz basically what Cullen said, although the main reason I mentioned it was because although it was quoted the whole unprovoked nature of it is probably something worth at least noting Iostn (talk) 15:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Iostn and Cullen, thanks for pointing that out. Stating pronoun preference is so common in my little part of the world that I can sometimes be oblivious when it is used as an insult. I don't know if that qualifies a person as transphobic but it was definitely not appropriate. Liz Read! Talk! 23:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- It's a collective insult, like he-she before it. Brazenly weaponized this year, no less. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 01:51, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's a new right-wing talking point. Basically a combination of anti-nonbinary prejudice, but also transphobia as TERFs seem to think nonbinary is a stepping stone to being trans (a la the old canard that bisexuality is a stepping stone to being homosexual). — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 18:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Iostn and Cullen, thanks for pointing that out. Stating pronoun preference is so common in my little part of the world that I can sometimes be oblivious when it is used as an insult. I don't know if that qualifies a person as transphobic but it was definitely not appropriate. Liz Read! Talk! 23:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Liz, I could be wrong but I interpreted
- I appreciate the effort to look at the nuances here, but I would have to respectfully disagree with the idea that this was a light or ambiguous violation. Plenty of users have felt angry and frustrated at times on WP, but it had never descended to a low of making explicitly discriminatory, both Islamophobic and transphobic, comments towards other editors. Connecting transgender people as a whole with hating Jews, is transphobic. Connecting anyone they disagree with on Israel as a "radical Islamic propagandist", a four-fold assumption of them being: 1- Muslim in religion 2- Islamist in thinking 3- radicalized and 4- propagadanist. I have been editing on WP for a decade and I have never encountered this level of unfiltered hate speech. This should be taken extremely seriously. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:57, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Iostn, do you have any diffs of this behavior? Because I've looked over their talk page comments for the past two days and aside from this diff shared by Black Kite, I can see them getting upset over a contentious subject but that's the only attack I can see. I know there is a no tolerance rule for attacks based on race, gender, gender identity, ethnicity and religion but this does seem like an isolated incident. They should have stepped away from the article and its talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 05:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Proposed topic ban from the Israel-Palestine conflict and antisemitism
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Given the unacceptable comments, I think this is the bare minimum, and have no issue with an indefinite block . Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:31, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:31, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry, Edit Reversion, and Harassment
edit- Suspected IPs:
- 76.68.24.171 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 2607:FEA8:571E:CE00:D81A:9C9D:4833:65A4 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 2607:FEA8:571E:CE00:D8C:6DE5:FF66:5C6C (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- Evidence of Sockpuppetry:
- Identical Edit Reversions Across IPs: All three IP addresses reverted my edits in identical ways shortly after each other, suggesting coordinated activity. Contribution Links: 76.68.24.171, 2607:FEA8:571E:CE00:D81A:9C9D:4833:65A4, 2607:FEA8:571E:CE00:D8C:6DE5:FF66:5C6C
- Editing the Same Articles from the Same Location: All three IPs have edited the same articles from what appears to be the same geographical location. IP Location Verification Links: 76.68.24.171, 2607:FEA8:571E:CE00:D81A:9C9D:4833:65A4, 2607:FEA8:571E:CE00:D8C:6DE5:FF66:5C6C
- Harassment and Violation of Civility Policy:
The user has made personal remarks that could be considered harassment, including comments about my location. This violates Wikipedia’s Civility and Personal Attacks policy. Diff Link: Evidence of personal comments
- Description of Disruptive Edit Reversions:
This user has been consistently reverting my edits across multiple articles without clear reason, preventing constructive updates.
- Request for Admin Investigation:
Please investigate this suspected sockpuppetry and harassment. The user’s behavior is creating a disruptive environment and obstructing contributions. - Cerium4B • Talk? • 20:16, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi! It happens that IP users will involuntarily jump across different IPs, and that is not considered sockpuppetry if not done to break policy. In fact, the last two IPs are from the same /64 range (the first half of the IP, which depends on the device, is the same, while the second half can often change randomly). Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Chaotic Enby ok
- but other extended confirmed users are considering that those are different user. And they are saying that the three ip users are not agreeing with my edit.
- is it fair?
- That IP user is not letting me update articles. what should i do? - Cerium4B • Talk? • 20:44, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- As always, the best thing to do when someone is reverting your edits is to discuss it with them. As /64 ranges don't have a unified talk page, and the reverts happened on multiple articles, it might be difficult to find a place to discuss, but I see that they replied to another user at User talk:2607:FEA8:571E:CE00:D8C:6DE5:FF66:5C6C, presumably talking about their reverts of your edits. It can be good to use that as a starting point to discuss the reverts there, especially since they seem to mention policies such as WP:OR. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:12, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Chaotic Enby, I tried to discuss but he cleared the topic from his talk page from another IP address.
- in most edits he mentions this WP:OR policy.
- and what about this ? - Cerium4B • Talk? • 21:55, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Their edit summary isn't very respectful, but the IP is right that this addition was OR and shouldn't have been added without sources. Also, you've both been edit-warring on that page. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:03, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) @Cerium4B: The unregistered user should not have made that gibe about a "poor place", that was uncivil. But as Chaotic Enby says, they have a point. Verifiability—providing references—is one of our basic policies, and that's what the IP is referring to when they talk about WP:OR. Can you find a reference to cite that says Nawabganj National Park is a small forest of Sal trees? Yngvadottir (talk) 22:14, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Yngvadottir
- I’ve added references in that article.
- also giving here — https://www.kalerkantho.com/online/country-news/2019/06/06/777199
- Isn’t 517.61 Hector a small forest?
- I have visited this place many times…! - Cerium4B • Talk? • 22:22, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- As always, the best thing to do when someone is reverting your edits is to discuss it with them. As /64 ranges don't have a unified talk page, and the reverts happened on multiple articles, it might be difficult to find a place to discuss, but I see that they replied to another user at User talk:2607:FEA8:571E:CE00:D8C:6DE5:FF66:5C6C, presumably talking about their reverts of your edits. It can be good to use that as a starting point to discuss the reverts there, especially since they seem to mention policies such as WP:OR. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:12, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
Banned editor seeks to be unblocked: Rishabisajakepauler
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- Rishabisajakepauler (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Rishabisajakepauler/Archive
A person from Texas who is banned per WP:THREESTRIKES has asked to be unblocked. Rishabisajakepauler has used at least 16 sockpuppets and a wide array of IPs to evade his initial block. The bottom of User talk:Rishabisajakepauler contains his incorrectly formatted unblock request from yesterday, saying that he is older and wiser now.
Pinging active editors who have tangled with him in the past: Oshwah, Ad Orientem, Izno, Girth Summit, TheSandDoctor, Firefly, Callanecc, TheAmazingPeanuts, Muhandes, GeneralNotability, Blablubbs, Btspurplegalaxy, RoySmith, ToBeFree, AshMusique, ThedancingMOONpolice, Suffusion of Yellow, Sir Sputnik, CAMERAwMUSTACHE, Cabayi, JBW, Ponyo, Certes and NinjaRobotPirate. Perhaps someone could mentor him. I am not in favor of granting him full pardon at this time. He must earn the community's trust. Binksternet (talk) 23:40, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Based on the sockpuppet investigation page they were socking as recently as October 26 of this year, so the standard offer would not apply, and they were also dropping racial slurs so I do not believe they have matured at all. CAMERAwMUSTACHE (talk) 00:21, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- That's a bad sign. Binksternet (talk) 00:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- No To emphasize your point: October 26, 2024, they used a string of racial slurs to attack another user. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 00:29, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Older but not wiser it would appear. Still showing no potential to be an asset to the community. Sadly this is an all-too-easy decline. Cabayi (talk) 00:38, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose If a problematic editor comes back after a few years, with no recent history of socking, and they can give a clear explanation of what they want to do here and they understand why they were blocked, I'm all for second chances. Sometimes even a third. But there is too much history here. And too much of it is recent. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:42, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Decline unblock per the not wanting to wait 6 months and imautrity. NightWolf1223 <Howl at me•My hunts> 00:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
User:Iranian Zazaki uncivil and WP:NOTHERE
editIranian Zazaki (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Please consider blocking User:Iranian Zazaki. I think this racist nonsensical response to a general notice on their talk page makes it sufficiently clear that they are WP:NOTHERE. Aside from that, their edits so far, nearly all reverted, have been non-constructive, unsourced, and in one case WP:UNCIVIL: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]. R Prazeres (talk) 23:39, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Bbb23 has blocked this editor. Liz Read! Talk! 01:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Personal attacks by User:Gachago
editSee [6] [7] Andre🚐 22:59, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Blocked for a week. No objections to another admin lengthening the block. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 23:10, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- "Ziobitch" is a particularly vile form of ethnonationalist harassment. I have extended the block to indefinite. Cullen328 (talk) 01:57, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
IP Hopper adding the same number all over.
editNormally would give a warning or even 2 then report the IP for vandalism... but we have an IP Hopper going around changing racial figures to the same number everywhere.. I think we may need a range block or something as their using different IPS ....example one - example 2 - example 3. I'm unsure how many articles are affected as I'm just noticing the ones on my watch list.Moxy🍁 02:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- That is two IPs. The /64 ranges are Special:Contributions/2a01:cb00:607:a00::/64 and Special:Contributions/2a02:8440:2502:5da1::/64. Johnuniq (talk) 03:32, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've hardblocked those two /64s for two weeks. Bishonen | tålk 10:29, 10 November 2024 (UTC).
- I've now been alerted to similar disruption on my page for User:2a02:8440:250c:aaa4:5c9d:4864:f7c3:27f5 plus an account, Ydududu, so I've blocked those also. Not sure I'm doing any good with this: are you able to block a larger range, Johnuniq? Bishonen | tålk 13:12, 10 November 2024 (UTC). PS: No, this is not about "disruption on my page"! Bishonen | tålk 15:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC).
- @Bishonen: The range Special:Contributions/2a02:8440:2500::/44 includes 2a02:8440:2502:5da1::/64 and 2a02:8440:250c:aaa4:5c9d:4864:f7c3:27f5 but it has no other recent bad edits. There are some apparently constructive edits at 2024 World Wrestling Championships. Perhaps someone here could report if the /44 range is used for more of these changes. Johnuniq (talk) 03:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I blocked the /44 for two weeks because 2A02:8440:250D:86B5:1052:608B:EB90:8302 made two more of these unexplained/unsourced number changes. Johnuniq (talk) 02:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Bishonen: The range Special:Contributions/2a02:8440:2500::/44 includes 2a02:8440:2502:5da1::/64 and 2a02:8440:250c:aaa4:5c9d:4864:f7c3:27f5 but it has no other recent bad edits. There are some apparently constructive edits at 2024 World Wrestling Championships. Perhaps someone here could report if the /44 range is used for more of these changes. Johnuniq (talk) 03:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've now been alerted to similar disruption on my page for User:2a02:8440:250c:aaa4:5c9d:4864:f7c3:27f5 plus an account, Ydududu, so I've blocked those also. Not sure I'm doing any good with this: are you able to block a larger range, Johnuniq? Bishonen | tålk 13:12, 10 November 2024 (UTC). PS: No, this is not about "disruption on my page"! Bishonen | tålk 15:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC).
- I've hardblocked those two /64s for two weeks. Bishonen | tålk 10:29, 10 November 2024 (UTC).
Persistent unsourced birth date changes by 2001:448A:50E0:0:0:0:0:0/48
edit2001:448A:50E0:0:0:0:0:0/48 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) - /48 has been making long-term unsourced/unexplained birth date changes, and hasn't responded to warnings. /48 has been blocked 3 times previously, most recently in July 2024 for 3 months for "sustained date vandalism". Recent examples of unsourced birth date changes: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Waxworker (talk) 16:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've re-blockd the range for a year. It looks like it's been the same editor on there for years.-- Ponyobons mots 17:08, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Ponyo: The same vandalism has continued from Special:Contribs/2001:448A:50E0::/46. Could you apply a wider block? Thanks. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Another IP editor engaging in disruptive editing
editThis IP user has received numerous warnings - from what I can see here all of their edits are disruptive and being reverted... their current target is floodplain Artem...Talk 06:13, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hello, Artem P75, you are not correctly linking to pages. You don't need the entire "https://en.wikipedia...etc" if you are linking to a page, not an edit. That said, most of these notices that were posted happened some time ago and you have to supply "diffs" or edits that make you think this is an "urgent" or "intractible" case that belongs at ANI. You can't just link to their contributions, you have to point out diffs that violate our policies.
- Also, you have now brought two cases to ANI tonight. As I said, this is a noticeboard for some urgent problems that need to be immediately addressed (like WP:AIV. You haven't demonstrated why this case needs administrator attention. Liz Read! Talk! 07:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- For example, link to their User talk page with a simple User talk:165.228.39.86 rather than the entire URL. Liz Read! Talk! 07:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Okay @Liz Thank you for letting me know! I will take that onboard for the future :) Artem...Talk 10:31, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- For example, link to their User talk page with a simple User talk:165.228.39.86 rather than the entire URL. Liz Read! Talk! 07:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
176.88.165.232 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) has been disruptively and tendentiously editing across multiple pages, arguing that those who disagree with them have political agendas or do not understand policy (or both!). Classic WP:IDHT.
At this talk page discussion, three users (myself, HistoryofIran, and Remsense) attempted to convey to this IP that unreliable sources do not fall under WP:RSOPINION. They refused to listen, and resorted to incivil comments, such as: "sabotaging for political agendas/to suppress opinions", "sabotaging for arbitrary reasons", and around four personal attacks in one diatribe. In the end, we got fed up with their refusal to understand WP:PAGs, and I advised others to move on from the merry-go-round of their WP:LISTEN behaviour.
The IP also started this discussion at RSN to argue the same point. First, ActivelyDisinterested responded, and three times answered whether RSOPINION was a good argument. This was of course not good enough for the IP: "You have not answered". ActivelyDisinterested grew uninterested(!) because of the IP' refusal to WP:LISTEN to others explaining WP:PAGs, and moved on. FactOrOpinion also participated in this discussion; I'd like to say that they and the IP found common ground, but that of course didn't happen. Instead, FactOrOpinion moved on, saying "I've read the relevant policy, and it seems I understand it better than you do...You've had several people tell you "no." At this point, this is a case of WP:LISTEN".
Then, the IP decided to edit war and was blocked for 31h (but not before filing two unfounded, retaliatory reports). Upon their block expiring today, they filed another EW report, once again alleging that everyone else's edits were political in intent. When Crazycomputers declined this report, the IP accused them of taking sides, and claimed that they were "corrupted" and that they, HoI, and myself, are "racists". Crazycomputers grew tired of their refusal to listen to policy, and moved on, saying "this clearly is a case of I didn't hear that".
Anyone else see a pattern here? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:39, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Blocked for one week for making personal attacks. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:29, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Voorts, is it okay if I ping you if this behaviour resumes once the block expires? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- You can, but post something at AN/I so other admins can jump in if I'm not there. voorts (talk/contributions) 13:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Voorts, is it okay if I ping you if this behaviour resumes once the block expires? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I only interacted with them once at the ANEW report and was completely unaware of the rest of this. Having only talked with them briefly, I have to say I'm not terribly surprised at the IDHT trend. After linking them to WP:ONUS and WP:BRD their conclusion was that these pages don't say what they plainly say. (
Nor WP:ONUS neither WP:BRD has such policy. Otherwise, you could revert any edit and then that editor would have been expected to open discussion.
) I strongly suspect that when this user comes back they will return to their previous behavior and simply refuse to listen to anyone about anything. --Chris | Crazycomputers (talk) 01:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Assistance in cleanup of Hamish Ross LTA puppet damage
editNOTE: User intentionally not notified of this, as it appears to be an LTA. Please correct me if I'm wrong for not notifying.
I've blocked Seawolf35 HGAV (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) as a very likely Hamish Ross puppet. As usual, lots of inappropriate warnings. This account has made a lot of edits and I could use some help in cleanup. If someone wants to jump in, please notify here. In the meantime, I'll start from the bottom of the list of edits and work up from there.— rsjaffe 🗣️ 17:10, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I just ran a mass-rollback on all of that account's edits. Any remaining edits are probably page creations that will need manual reverting. I'll start looking through those now. Home Lander (talk) 17:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm also starting to wonder what exactly I'm looking at. This user is acting like Hamish Ross but has other edits that are not like that. Would like an experienced admin to review what is going on. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 17:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Some of the mainspace edits were ok (reversion of actual vandalism); any that got caught by the mass-rollback I did have been self-reverted. Home Lander (talk) 17:25, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Had me worried that I misidentified the LTA. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 17:29, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not saying for certain this is Hamish Ross, but from the limited involvement I've had with them, it seems like it. Home Lander (talk) 17:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Home Lander, in the future, please wait for more confirmation before you mass rollback a user's edits. Mass rollback, like mass deletion, should only happen with obvious vandals and confirmed sockpuppets. Mass rollback is a drastic action to take against an editor. Have you reverted your reversions? Liz Read! Talk! 19:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not saying for certain this is Hamish Ross, but from the limited involvement I've had with them, it seems like it. Home Lander (talk) 17:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Had me worried that I misidentified the LTA. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 17:29, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Some of the mainspace edits were ok (reversion of actual vandalism); any that got caught by the mass-rollback I did have been self-reverted. Home Lander (talk) 17:25, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm also starting to wonder what exactly I'm looking at. This user is acting like Hamish Ross but has other edits that are not like that. Would like an experienced admin to review what is going on. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 17:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rsjaffe: what makes you think this is Hamish Ross? This is the legitimate alt of a user with 8k+ edits. Just from a quick review of this account's reverts, they all look fine. —Ingenuity (t • c) 17:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Checkuser agrees this isn't Hamish. No comment on anything else at this time. -- zzuuzz (talk) 17:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Was opening and closing lots of edit requests, templating IP users, at a rapid rate. As a said above, I started to have some misgivings after going through the edits a second time, looking at the mix of good and bad actions. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 17:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- See, for example: User talk:Book millstones#November 2024.
- However, does look like I was wrong. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 18:04, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Feel free to reverse the block and/or invite the editor here to discuss. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 18:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Unblocked. Came here to say the same thing as Ingenuity. SilverLocust 💬 18:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks,SilverLocust, about the PAID warnings claimed inappropriate. That user created Uplifting Service, which was basically a sourced promo piece for a book, combined with their username, which led me to seek clarification from them, which I got. Seawolf35 HGAV (talk) 18:21, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Seawolf35 HGAV, could you please discuss here with Rsjaffe about your edits that led to this block, and maybe sort out the problems that you two had? Fathoms Below (talk) 18:18, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- There’s not anything to sort out. I’ll just flat out apologize and explain my, in retrospect, incorrect actions. I’m on phone, so this might take a few minutes. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 18:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I noted the automated edit filter report indicating a possible Hamish Ross puppet. I then looked at the editing pattern and saw some odd patterns. Closing others edit requests, rapid templating, often IP addresses, and some unusual activity (e.g. the double template noted above. I then blocked as I was concerned about continued disruption and came here for help. However, after I started delving deeper into the edits to start reverting them, I found that I agreed with more than I disagreed with. At that point, I came back here to say I may have made a mistake, and asked for experienced help.
- Agsin, my sincere apologies for blocking based on an unusual pattern of editing rather than sreviewing each edit. I was over concerned with disruption, as Hamis Ross’s edits cause lots of puzzled and upset reactions. The though this might be that LTA led me to react faster than I normally do and is a lesson learned. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 19:10, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, thanks for the explanation and it is an understandable mistake. Best, Seawolf35 HGAV (talk) 19:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- You too. I hate messing up, and as an admin, the mess ups become very public. I appreciate your graciousness. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 19:26, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Now where can I get me one of those accidental block userboxes. Seawolf35 HGAV (talk) 19:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- You too. I hate messing up, and as an admin, the mess ups become very public. I appreciate your graciousness. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 19:26, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, thanks for the explanation and it is an understandable mistake. Best, Seawolf35 HGAV (talk) 19:20, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- There’s not anything to sort out. I’ll just flat out apologize and explain my, in retrospect, incorrect actions. I’m on phone, so this might take a few minutes. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 18:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Unblocked. Came here to say the same thing as Ingenuity. SilverLocust 💬 18:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
User:136.38.220.43 repeated vandalism after block - requesting speedy block
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User has just come off a block as per their talk page and are spamming "awesome" into various horse related articles(?) extremely quickly.
@Liz I am tagging you in hopes of a fast resolution as you seem to be the most active here... sorry if not appropriate this is my first time raising an AN/I request Artem...Talk 04:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- They have just posted on my talk page Artem...Talk 04:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Blocked for vandalism for 1 week. voorts (talk/contributions) 04:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for a fast response @Voorts Artem...Talk 04:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I was busy elsewhere on the project but luckily Voorts is just as active as I am! Liz Read! Talk! 04:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Artem P75: Next time, you can use Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism to report users with a blatant need to get blocked. ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 16:33, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I see Liz has already told you about this below, happy editing! ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 16:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- No worries @ExclusiveEditor I appreciate your help, thank you! Artem...Talk 21:11, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I see Liz has already told you about this below, happy editing! ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 16:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for a fast response @Voorts Artem...Talk 04:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
2409:40E3:103D:8274:D9A9:8FA1:ED7F:C05E
editRequesting evaluation of 2409:40E3:0:0:0:0:0:0/32's contributions, and recommending a NOTHERE block, upping Black Kite's page block for disruptive editing to indefinite, based on their sketchy contribution history, high revert percentage, and PA's attacking Ocaasi in edit summaries (diff) and on their Talk page in response to an admin warning (here; diff). Mathglot (talk) 23:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- IP addresses should not be indeffed. Requesting indef IP block is not worth it as IP addresses are subject to change. Ahri Boy (talk) 00:06, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have blocked the IP for one week and revoked their talk page access. Cullen328 (talk) 00:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
... probably needs a short block for various personal attacks. C F A 💬 02:45, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Trump nominees
editThere is lots of edit warring (much of it unintentional) at the pages of the recent Trump nominees (Kristi Noem, Pete Hegseth, etc.) as to how to designate them: "nominee", prospective nominee", "presumptive, nominee", etc. I would love a centralized discussion with guidance from someone who knows the correct terminology, but I don't know where to start such a discussion. I checked relevant pages from four years ago, but the same sort of uncertainty existed then, too. StAnselm (talk) 03:08, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I would suggest a request for comment at one of the village pump pages, with incoming links from all affected pages. Also, feel free to request protection on pages experiencing repeat edit warring. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 03:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
IP User disruptive behaviour
editThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
2600:4040:4522:2100:6C29:7904:43C:A130 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) - This IP user is repeatedly engaging in edit wars and vandalizing articles, disrupting content quality and accuracy.
---DelphiLore (talk)
Bigamy?
editAccording to Liz Lloyd's BLP, she married Ed Miliband in 2002. His bio has him married to someone else. Someone may like to fix this. I would, but I've forgotten how. Scott Mac 18:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- ANI isn't really the place for this - WP:BLPN would be a better place. It's no secret that Lloyd and Miliband dated early in their careers, but they were not married. It looks like this assertion started life as two separate assertions (e.g. in this version from 2017), and presumably some helpful but careless copyeditor merged conflated the two facts. I have removed the assertion that she used to be partners with Miliband - it's true, but it's trivia. Girth Summit (blether) 18:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Possible Gaming of Permissions Ethiopian Epic
edit@Ethiopian Epic Only has 13 edits[8] all made in under an hour. 11 were to Government of Japan and the last two were made to Samurai, a semi-protected article. The changes made at Samurai are controversial, and were the subject of a Talk Page discussion. The dispute was also evidence in the Yasuke ArbCom case. The changes to the Samurai article are largely reverting to an earlier version, but done manually. It is unlikely that a new user would rewrite the article using earlier phrasing. It also removed cited material. Tinynanorobots (talk) 12:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- This doesn't look like autoconfirmed gaming, it just looks like editing. I don't see anything in the recent arbcom case that applies here, either. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:51, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Really? 11 minor edits and then a big edit on a protected article? I find these two especially suspicious:[9][10]
- I just mentioned the ArbCom case for context, full disclosure etc. The T-ban on Yasuke, broadly construed, doesn't affect Samurai, right? Tinynanorobots (talk) 13:57, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- The topic ban could, depending on the exact edit. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:08, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I would argue that a textbook example of "broadly construed" would be that a ban on Yasuke extends to the samurai article as well; otherwise "broadly construed" has no meaning. It means "give the topic the widest possible berth." EEng 16:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I see nothing about race in this, it just looks like a content dispute. Secretlondon (talk) 15:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Race had little to do with the Yasuke ArbCom case. Tinynanorobots (talk) 16:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- The topic ban could, depending on the exact edit. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:08, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Tinynanorobots: can you provide a link to the revision of the article you are saying that they have largely reverted to? I tend to agree that that would be an odd coincidence, but without a version to compare against it's hard to evaluate (and I don't particularly want to start guessing). Girth Summit (blether) 14:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, here is a change I made on 5. October[11]. It was changed by a different editor again in October [12] Ethiopian Epic then restored the version from before 5. October, as well as restored the disputed line about retainers. Since I had added some of the stuff that existed before 5. October, this did restore some of my edits as well as revert other contributions. Tinynanorobots (talk) 15:20, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- This is the version that I think is closest to the last version by EE[13] Tinynanorobots (talk) 15:31, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm confused: that literally is the last version by EE. Which version from the past are to compare it against? If giving a link is a problem, just give us a date/time stamp that you are saying they are effectively reverting to. Girth Summit (blether) 18:00, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I am sorry, diff 37 is supposed to be a side by side comparison between the last version by EE and the version at 05:17, 11 September 2024 [14] Tinynanorobots (talk) 18:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I had a look around, and I can see what you're getting at - they have pretty much undone a number of edits that you and others have done at that page. However - 'gaming' autoconfirmed isn't really a thing - the bar for getting an autoconfirmed account is intentionally very low, it's really just there to make it slightly more burdensome for high-speed vandals to be able to target their preferred pages. That article is semi-protected (indefinitely, which is unusual) because of high volumes of anonymous vandalism. Whatever this is, it isn't obvious vandalism. I don't think it's a particularly big deal - they reverted some changes, you have reverted their revert - let's see what happens next. They might not return, or they might engage on the talk page - it's a bit early to be talking about blocking anyone. If you think it's a sock of another account (blocked or otherwise), head over to SPI and put some meat on the bones of your suspicions. Girth Summit (blether) 18:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you very much for looking at the situation and explaining things. At this point, I think I will wait and see what happens. Tinynanorobots (talk) 18:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I must say that I agree with Girth Summit here. Confirmed status is no big deal - it is easy to get the "proper" way, so gaming 10 edits doesn't mean much. If you have suspicions about this editor, or they are being disruptive, then you should pursue other avenues. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:45, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you very much for looking at the situation and explaining things. At this point, I think I will wait and see what happens. Tinynanorobots (talk) 18:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm confused: that literally is the last version by EE. Which version from the past are to compare it against? If giving a link is a problem, just give us a date/time stamp that you are saying they are effectively reverting to. Girth Summit (blether) 18:00, 14 November 2024 (UTC)