Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1953–54 FA Cup Qualifying Rounds

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) —Theo polisme 07:57, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1953–54 FA Cup Qualifying Rounds

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The article is a large list of football statistics for the qualifiers of a competition. Delete per WP:NOT as WP:RAWDATA. Odie5533 (talk) 20:48, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The following is a comment posted on my user talk page. I have copied it here because it seems relevant to the discussion --Odie5533 (talk) 21:34, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is the normal number of teams who enter the FA Cup. The external link is there for the results to be verified and that is the normal way for every season in the FA Cup history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_FA_Cup_Qualifying_Rounds and this season is no different. Have a look at previous seasons from 2012-13 to show this.

I take it you are not an association football/soccer fan. The FA Cup is one of the oldest cup competitions ever and so many clubs enter that they have to have so many rounds before it gets into the 1st Round Proper. The seasons in English football is not showing the Qualifying Rounds for many seasons at present, and I am hoping to fill in the gaps right up to the 2007-08 season.

I have done this for many seasons in The Football League Cup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_League_Cup and Scottish League Cup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_League_Cup

This page does not deserve deletion because so many teams enter.

Darrin01

Keep per above. NickSt (talk) 23:34, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As part of a bigger scheme of qualifying rounds by year, which work is being done to complete the missing gaps. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 07:57, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- While some years might be notable, I don't think saying "because XX year was notable, they're all notable" is correct. Legoktm (talk) 10:10, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Several similar articles exist. Faustus37 (talk) 08:23, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

These are strong WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS arguments. I am arguing that the article should be deleted because it is a gigantic wall of statistics. At least it certainly appears to be. --Odie5533 (talk) 09:50, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Modified? Absolutely. It shouldn't be deleted though. Faustus37 (talk) 10:26, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to 1953–54 FA Cup. This cup is definitely notable, however I think Odie is right about this being WP:RAWDATA. Based on a little bit of searching, I can't find enough sources for this specific year's qualifying rounds (what the article is actually about) to meet GNG. Legoktm (talk) 10:10, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I could not find any news articles about the qualifying rounds from 1953-54 either. I searched BritishNewspaperArchive.co.uk. --Odie5533 (talk) 10:21, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:47, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The individual seasons, including qualifying rounds, of the FA Cup are extremely notable and have received significant coverage for more than 100 years! Just because at the moment the article is admittedly just a list of matches, it doesn't mean that prose and a proper article couldn't be written, for example you could write about significant matches or results, any new teams from the previous year, the leagues that the competing teams came from, the regional format of the draws or any number of other things. This book contains all the results and shows how important the Cup is in English football history. Not to mention the endless coverage that the matches would have received in local newspapers and football yearbooks, etc. To the points above, obviously you won't find much coverage online for a competition so long ago, but having online sources is not a requirement for notability. And Odie5533, of course you didn't find anything in the BNA – the archives only go up to 1950 so you aren't likely to find much about 1953–54, are you... BigDom (talk) 13:29, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per BigDom - topic is notable; article needs improving. Giant Snowman 15:02, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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