Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Apochi Efetobor Wesley

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The result was Nomination Withdrawn. Article has been sufficiently re-written for me to withdraw my nomination. (non-admin closure) Dusti^{*Let's talk!*} 21:03, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Apochi Efetobor Wesley

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Lack of sufficient references. Google search, for someone who's supposedly a champion, doesn't net any results. Dusti^{*Let's talk!*} 14:20, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination Withdrawn Dusti^{*Let's talk!*} 21:02, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This and this confirm bronze medal at the Commonwealth Games. --Michig (talk) 15:15, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In the article none of the claims are backed up by references. The single reference, images are not references, only indicates that he was present at the 2013 world championships. Medalling in the Commonwealth Games does not meet WP:NBOX even though personally I think it should. To meet notability the article needs some references to support the Nigerian championship which would meet WP:NBOX. I'll change my vote if the article gets fixed/supported.Peter Rehse (talk) 15:50, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The re-write certainly helped. I think the article is now a Keep although I would like to see a reference for Nigerian champion which would clinch WP:NBOX.Peter Rehse (talk) 22:01, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I could not find any direct support for Apochi winning a discrete Nigerian championship. Nigeria held a National Open Boxing Championship in 2013. As winners were to participate in the 2013 world boxing championship and Apochi represented Nigeria, the implication is that he won the championship. However, that is an assumption and therefore I removed that from the article. I did modify the article to incorporate information found while unsuccessfully searching for the Nigerian championship issue. I am finished.--Rpclod (talk) 03:56, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Most sources refer to him as Efetobor Apochi. This confirms he is the Nigerian captain. More coverage: [1]. I didn't find a source for winning the Nigerian championship. A bronze at the Commonwealth Games is a bigger deal than being national champion at amateur level, and should be enough to merit an article. --Michig (talk) 16:08, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Then the article should be named such - what's his actual name? Dusti^{*Let's talk!*} 17:30, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article was already moved to apparently the correct name.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:13, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article now appears at Efetobor Wesley Apochi. I did not make that name change, but I did re-draft the article and provided additional references. Per my below vote, I think that the article now meets notability and verifiability requirements.--Rpclod (talk) 21:07, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Because he has "represented [his] AIBA affiliated country in a continental (or higher) tournament", he has notability per WP:NBOXING. He has received coverage and the article just needs to be improved.--Rpclod (talk) 19:22, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:42, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - I think the existing multiple, independent, reliable sources, in combination with his Commonwealth Games medal, are enough that we should consider the subject notable under the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG, if not the specific notability guideline of WP:NBOX. The caliber of competition at the Commonwealth Games is comparable to the Pan American Games and other world-regional olympiad-style games; I think we can safely exercise our discretion to deem the subject notable without opening the floodgates to other boxers who are less notable. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 14:05, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - per above keep votes. Since no one is voting "delete" I guess we don't need to wait for 1 week before closing it as a "speedy keep". Darreg (talk) 14:14, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Or we just let it run its course - considering the amount of re-write (thanks) that had to be done and the form of the initial deleted article. It was never a Speedy Keep.Peter Rehse (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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