- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Sr13 01:28, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Charlie Balfe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
Non-professional footballer. Mattythewhite 12:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I suggest adding Ben Watson (football player) to this AfD, unless it is felt that playing for England at futsal confers notability..... ChrisTheDude 12:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - semi-pro soccer player, so he's not entirely non-professional. We have articles on ARCA racecar drivers, which I would assume is a similar league NASCAR-wise to the sport of soccer. Guroadrunner 12:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:BIO explicitly states that an athlete must have competed in a fully professional league, something neither Balfe nor Watson has done ChrisTheDude 13:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, no offence, but having read the article on ARCA I can't see any meaningful similarity with English football ChrisTheDude 13:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I figure a semi-pro soccer league is a lot like a semi-pro racing series. In NASCAR (and F1), the series ladder basically goes:
- Also, no offence, but having read the article on ARCA I can't see any meaningful similarity with English football ChrisTheDude 13:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:BIO explicitly states that an athlete must have competed in a fully professional league, something neither Balfe nor Watson has done ChrisTheDude 13:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- - NASCAR Nextel Cup // F1 <---- this is what a top-level soccer league sounds like.
- - NASCAR Busch Series // GP2 <---- this is what the MLS sounds like.
- - ARCA or ASA // F3 series <---- this is what a semi-pro soccer league sounds like.
- Not to fork the conversation, just how I figure this fits in. 13:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Guroadrunner (talk • contribs)
- Fair enough, I can see what you're driving at (no pun intended, well, maybe just a bit....), but as stated above per WP:BIO an athlete must have competed in a fully professional league. If articles on semi-professional racing drivers exist then either a) they shouldn't based on that guideline or b) it's been decided that race car drivers aren't considered to be "athletes"..... ChrisTheDude 13:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Not to fork the conversation, just how I figure this fits in. 13:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Guroadrunner (talk • contribs)
- Delete Has not played a game in a fully professional league. Would also support deletion of Ben Watson - the Futsal team merits only an article for itself rather than its (non-notable) players. Number 57 13:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as he has not played in a fully-professional league and there are no reasons to make him an exception. The Watson article should be the subject of a separate AfD, I think, and I would support moving the text to Futsal in England, reworded appropriately. --Malcolmxl5 13:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Nicko (Talk•Contribs) 13:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete footballer who fails notability as per norm. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 20:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Ref (chew)(do) 22:03, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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