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The result was delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:17, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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PROD contested by Elop76 (talk · contribs). Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Mattythewhite (talk) 00:31, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:42, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Just to clarify the nomination. Elop76 (talk · contribs) posted the following to the article's talk page to contest the deletion. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:42, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- why was Jeremy Vuolo's page deleted he has played pro soccer in Finland was the starting keeper foR AC Oulo.???? Elop76 (talk) 13:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - Per nom. The two leages in which Mr. Vuolo has played, Ykkönen and the USPDL, are both not fully-pro, and he has not received significant coverage. As such, this article fails both WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:42, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 17:29, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - AC Oulu reached Finlands top league Veikkausliiga in 2007. Vuolo is a pro player who has played for a pro club and he has just signed with a pro club in Major League Soccer. There is no question he is a professional soccer player. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.212.191.147 (talk) 18:13, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Doesn't matter if he's a professional player or not. What matters is whether he's played at least one match in a fully professional league. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:47, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Finland's second division is a fully professional league. Who indicated it wasnt? User:Elop76 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.212.191.147 (talk) 12:46, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:FPL doesn't list it as a fully professional league. Doesn't necessarily mean it isn't, but a source will be needed that explicitly states it is a fully pro league. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:20, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Do we have to have a source that Spain's First Division is a fully professional league, so as to not delete Leonel Messi's page. User:Elop76 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.212.191.147 (talk) 17:23, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- If you'd have cared to look at WP:FPL then you'd have seen there is. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:54, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- This article [1] from the New York Red Bulls official site declaring the signing of Vuolo explicitly states "The Downingtown, PA native began his professional career in 2011 with then Finnish First Division (Ykkönen) side, AC Oulu." The site is run by MLSsoccer.com, the utmost official source. I'm no Wiki expert, so decide for yourselves. Acmilan10italia (talk) 21:36, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for bringing that to the table, although it makes no mention of the league being fully pro, only that the subject and his club were. Mattythewhite (talk) 21:43, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- This article [1] from the New York Red Bulls official site declaring the signing of Vuolo explicitly states "The Downingtown, PA native began his professional career in 2011 with then Finnish First Division (Ykkönen) side, AC Oulu." The site is run by MLSsoccer.com, the utmost official source. I'm no Wiki expert, so decide for yourselves. Acmilan10italia (talk) 21:36, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- If you'd have cared to look at WP:FPL then you'd have seen there is. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:54, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:11, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete – when Vuolo appeared for Oulou, the team played in the Ykkönen, which is not a fully professional league. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTY. – Kosm1fent 08:35, 13 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - subject have not played for a team in a FPL, but rather for a professional team in a semi-professional league, and fails WP:NFOOTY. Also fails WP:GNG. Mentoz86 (talk) 20:41, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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