- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. No arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:21, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Mark Vartanian (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
Notability not established. No third party sources available to help establish notability. Nikki♥311 02:40, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. —Nikki♥311 02:41, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - Professional career lasted at least 17 years, including a stint with the World Wrestling Federation (admittedly very brief); as noted in a reliable source, was inducted into a hall of fame (admittedly a small one). Notability is borderline but should be sufficient to pass WP:ATHLETE. GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: No offense Gary, but you change you mind too much. Looking at WT:PW#Mark Vartanian, you pretty much said just to delete the article and now you want it kept. Dude, just make up your mind already on articles.--WillC 04:29, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Since then, I have found an article from SLAM! Wrestling confirming his induction in a professional wrestling hall of fame and learned that he had competed in the WWF. I figured it couldn't hurt to add a few references to give people commenting here a more realistic view of the situation. I would have preferred to see the article kept before (I have never made a secret of the fact that pursuing Wikipedia's "sum of all knowledge" goal by deleting content sounds strange to me), but I believe that the actually meets the notability guidelines now. As for changing my mind, I would hope that anyone would be open to changing their mind when presented with information that goes against their earlier beliefs. GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Alright, thanks for the explanation.--WillC 06:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Since then, I have found an article from SLAM! Wrestling confirming his induction in a professional wrestling hall of fame and learned that he had competed in the WWF. I figured it couldn't hurt to add a few references to give people commenting here a more realistic view of the situation. I would have preferred to see the article kept before (I have never made a secret of the fact that pursuing Wikipedia's "sum of all knowledge" goal by deleting content sounds strange to me), but I believe that the actually meets the notability guidelines now. As for changing my mind, I would hope that anyone would be open to changing their mind when presented with information that goes against their earlier beliefs. GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:18, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: No offense Gary, but you change you mind too much. Looking at WT:PW#Mark Vartanian, you pretty much said just to delete the article and now you want it kept. Dude, just make up your mind already on articles.--WillC 04:29, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep The notability isn't huge, but he's notable enough. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:35, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per expansion. Seems to be notable. matt91486 (talk) 20:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Page has been "overridden" (whatever the hell that means). RICK ME DOODLE YOU DOODLE 10:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.