Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Summer 2015 Invasion of Syria

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. As this is a copy of anther article with some slight modifications. The user who created it has been blocked for a long-term pattern of ignoring our basic content policies. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:46, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Summer 2015 Invasion of Syria

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Article contains almost exclusively rumors and assumptions about a non-event, while the title suggets an actual invasion has happened. Most of the sources are dodgy weblogs rather than reliable sources. bender235 (talk) 15:41, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Classic WP:CRYSTALBALL, weak sources, non-event.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by G8j!qKb (talk • contribs)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Syria-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 (T·E·C) 02:43, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 (T·E·C) 02:44, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions. — JJMC89 (T·E·C) 02:45, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 15:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:56, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: After all, the shooting has already started. The Financial Times and most Middle Eastern national newspapers aren't something to be sniffed at. If you want to make improvements or move it to a better title, please go ahead. The thing is, is that this thing is actually happening, and deleting an article only to have to bring it back a couple of days later is a total waste of time and bandwidth.Ericl (talk) 17:11, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Turkey–ISIL conflict - The infobox has been copied from this article anyway, with most of the information there as well. Nub Cake (talk) 18:12, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
addendum: You will note that almost ALL the so-called "rumors and assumptions" have been confirmed by the Turkish government in the last day or so. Press conferences do not disseminate rumors. The invasion has to some extent already started and needs an article of it's own. As I said before, it would be a total waste of time and bandwidth take it down and then put it back up in less than a dayEricl (talk) 11:53, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ericl: why not keep as a WP:DRAFT?

Because the event has already started. The Turkish military response, which includes bombing Kurdish targets in Iraq, is ongoing. that it might need to be moved to a better title, (Allied invasion of Syria: 2015 or something) or edited to within an inch of it's life, (which it does, so be my guest) is besides the point. This isn't about some airy-fairy paranoid peverication, it's about stuff like Timeline of the Syrian Civil War (January–July 2014), which was totally forgotten about because the war, like that in Iraq has been going on for a while and people get bored. Think about World War II, everybody knew D-Day was going to happen, however where and when was a top secret. Same here. Only this time there were leaks beforehand. The leaks and reaction to same were worth an article. However, now it's turning into a battle campaign which was long expected. World-Changing events need articlesEricl (talk) 12:20, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This page is simply a more brief copy of the page Turkey–ISIL conflict. The infobox has been copied from there, and the name of this article is misleading. The invasion has not started. The events at the moment have occurred mostly on the Syrian-Turkish border and the fighter jets who have bombed ISIL positions have done so without invading Syrian airspace. Plus, this is not an invasion of Syria targeting the Syrian government. It is a conflict between Turkey and ISIL. Nub Cake (talk) 14:06, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

An invasion of a country has nothing to do with which group's being targeted. Free France took part in D-Day. The Turkish air force has indeed violated Syrian airspace, and according to the good people at the Syrian Human rights observatory, may have bombed a Nusra Front base.Ericl (talk) 14:21, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This doesn't change the fact that it is exactly a copy of the other article. In that case, my opinion is Delete. The invasion consists of Turkish F-16s bombing ISIL headquarters and gathering points from Turkish airspace. Nub Cake (talk) 16:40, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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