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The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:28, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Vancouver late at night.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Zazzer (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

cannot distinguish anything in photo, higher-quality photos available Jon Kolbert (talk) 00:43, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:29, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Vancouver rally.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tracker22 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Misleading image. Text was poorly photoshopped over a banner to falsify what it states. Not suitable for inclusion. Jon Kolbert (talk) 00:50, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:29, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sgtpepperremaster.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Beatleswillneverdie (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Nonfree album cover that fails WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC#8. Claimed to be used for identification in the infobox, it is instead used in a section., and really is redundant to the album cover already on the infobox,. Whpq (talk) 01:11, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:29, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Pucajirca form Alpamayo.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 2005biggar (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

low-resolution, published on external website and no EXIF data. Unlikely to be own work Jon Kolbert (talk) 13:19, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:30, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:UK motorway M27.PNG (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Erath (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Vector version available : File:UK-Motorway-M27.svg Jon Kolbert (talk) 13:25, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:30, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:OHARETERM5.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lex839 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

superseded by File:Chicago O'Hare Terminal 5.svg Jon Kolbert (talk) 13:28, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:30, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:ONLF flag.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Orthuberra (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

superseded by File:Flag of Ogaden National Liberation Front(2).svg Jon Kolbert (talk) 14:12, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:31, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:OHARETERM3.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Lex839 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

superseded by File:Chicago O'Hare Terminal 3.svg Jon Kolbert (talk) 14:15, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:31, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Greek merchant navy flag.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Skartsis (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

superseded by File:Greek merchant navy flag.svg Jon Kolbert (talk) 14:19, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:31, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Flagodvranje.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Serbianboy (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

not own work, derivative of another's work. No right for uploader to license as they wish Jon Kolbert (talk) 14:20, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:32, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:New Jersey colours.png (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Tiburon (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

superseded by File:New Jersey colours.svg Jon Kolbert (talk) 14:21, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. There is no evidence that this is a U.S. Federal Government work. If such evidence is provided, the file may be undeleted. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:38, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Official House Portrait Dusty Johnson.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Koncurrentkat (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This image is stated to be public domain as it is a US Federal government work and is attributed by the uploader to the Office of Photography, United States Congress. However, ther eis no evidence provided that this is a federal photo. The source provided is Dustin Johnson's twitter account. Johnson's official federal site provides no photo. Whpq (talk) 17:53, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: keep now that it is used in an article about the work, Repo Man (soundtrack). Should that change, this discussion should be revisited. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:35, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Repo Man CD cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Evrik (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

The soundtrack's front cover is used in Repo Man (film). However, the article subject is the film itself, and the album cover does nothing to help readers understand the film, and removing it wouldn't affect the understanding whatsoever. Also, the soundtrack itself contains songs that were either charted or just released some time before the film, and some of the songs were newer renditions of older songs, like "Secret Agent Man". The article's section about the soundtrack doesn't explain much about the soundtrack itself, and I couldn't find sources saying that the soundtrack made the songs bigger hits. Notable or not, separating the "Soundtrack" section into a separate article would be bad, especially when there aren't enough reliable sources verifying independent notability. Sure, there are reviews, but they are not adequate enough to justify separating the content into a new page. While irreplaceable and (not "or") contextually significant "fair use" content has been acceptable, open and free content has been very encouraged over the years. The cover, even when irreplaceable, would fail WP:NFCC#8 because most readers would already understand the film without needing to know what the soundtrack looks like. Wanting to find out what the soundtrack cover looks like isn't and shouldn't be one of the article's goals. The "Soundtrack" section can be expanded, but that wouldn't justify keeping the image.

Furthermore, the album cover looks similar to the film's theatrical release poster. The cover would also fail WP:NFCC#3a.

I previously PRODded the image, but then the uploader removed the PROD tag, believing that the album cover is necessary just because "the album music is a key part to the film", the cover and the poster have different "key features", and both images visually identify their own different products. However, I found the reasons not adequate enough to keep the album cover. The main issue is whether or not trusting readers to understand the article content without the non-free soundtrack cover. --George Ho (talk) 23:27, 23 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • delete - the original prod rationale was correct. The claim by the uploader on the file talk page that this would be okay if the soundtrack were a separate article is correct, but it isn't a separate article and WP:NFCC#8 is not satisfied. -- Whpq (talk) 13:57, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - First, the album music is a key part to the film, so it is appropriate to have a discussion of the album in the Repo Man (film) article. Second, while the two images are "almost similar," each has key features differing from the other. Finally, this is minimal usage - and each image represents the album and the movie separately. You could split the album information out and it would stand as its own article. --evrik (talk) 15:05, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • But the fact is that the soundtrack is not a separate article. There is no significant sourced commentary about the album cover. That fails to satisfy WP:NFCC#8. WP:NFCC#8 is considered to be satisfied when the non-free image is being used as the primary means of visual identification for the article which is the film. The soundstrack is a section of the article. -- Whpq (talk) 15:17, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per MOS:FILM#Soundtrack. If the soundtrack is truly notable, it can have a standalone article with its own identifying image. But if it is not, then there is no reason to have another identifying non-free image, unless there was something about the soundtrack cover image that warranted critical commentary. Considering that it's just a copy of the film poster, there's definitely nothing that warrants critical commentary. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 16:10, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I went ahead and created a separate article, Repo Man (soundtrack). --evrik (talk) 18:23, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    That seems to work. May need to shore up the soundtrack's notability, lest that article goes to WP:AFD. It looks like 100 Greatest Cult Films has some commentary about the film's soundtrack here. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 19:25, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    IMHO, the separate, stand-alone soundtrack page still looks small enough to merge into the parent film article, especially without the image. I might have to rewrite some sentences when the FFD discussion is over. -- George Ho (talk) 22:07, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, I was not crazy about the creation of a soundtrack article just because its image was on the verge of deletion because before this discussion, nobody in the whole history of the film article thought that the soundtrack should stand alone. Still, this does not directly mean a soundtrack article was never viable. That's why I searched for some soundtrack results as reflected above, and the 100 Cult Films mention indicates to me that standalone notability is possible. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 14:48, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - The creation of an article for the soundtrack seems like an excellent solution. Two solid references for notability and two additional sources is a good start. Nice job! Knulclunk (talk) 20:50, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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