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File:Dopetrackz logo.png

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:03, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Claims PD-self, also found on https://twitter.com/RadioDopetrackz and https://www.amazon.com/Online-Radio-Dopetrackz/dp/B08G59LC2W. WP:OTRS permission needed. Used on Draft:Dopetrackz Radio. Side note: may indicate a WP:COI issue for that draft. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 12:17, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, should be licensed as a non-free logo but seen as its only used in the draft space it can't be kept. Salavat (talk) 03:18, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - claim of being the copyright holder is not credible nor is it supported by any evidence. -- Whpq (talk) 12:53, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Screenshots from The Wire

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The result of the discussion was: relisted on 2021 May 10. FASTILY 23:33, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

File:Unto Others.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs)

File:Corner Boys.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs)

File:Know Your Place.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs)

File:Misgivings.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs)

File:That's Got His Own.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs)

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File:Everywhere at the End of Time - Complete Edition Image.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted as G7 by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 02:02, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: This image is a montage of six album covers that was generated not by the copyright holder, but by the source indicated on the image page ([1]). As such, it is really no different than a user generated montage. We have WP:MONTAGE policy and WP:NFG guideline standing against such uses. Each one of the images in this file would require a non-free rationale for each use of the item. If we did break out the images, we would not generally permit them to be used on Everywhere at the End of Time (where this image is used) as that article is effectively a discography. Hammersoft (talk) 21:35, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Personally, while I do understand the point behind the montage clause, I feel that it still meets enough of the articles of WP:NFCC for it to be worthy of staying. Let me explain myself.

It goes without saying that it fits the bill for article 1, as unless someone is willing to recreate the covers using random household items, which is a bit of an extreme thing to ask; there is no free equivalent that can be used and still convey what the covers look like.

I am unsure how the file does or does not fit the criteria for article 2, as technically that could apply to every album cover file on wikipedia.

While the montage does not exactly fit the bill for 3A, it definitely fits the criteria for 3B, as anyone who may try to pirate the albums and crops the montage for the covers would find that the individual images are horrendously low resolution, but i know full well that 3B is not the best way to win an argument.

All of the individual images definitely fit the criteria for Article 4, as the record label that owns Everywhere at the End of Time uploaded the entire series on youtube, with the covers also, so keep that in mind.

I will definitely concede defeat for Article 5, since you mentioned all of the ways that the file does not fit regulation.

After skimming over the article for Wikipedia:Image use policy, it seems like a bit of a circular argument, so you can interpret that as you will.

I don't even have to explain why this fits Article 7.

While article 8 seems like it is fairly subjective in its rationalization, i believe that the covers are a very important part of these albums, especially since if this file is deleted the EatEoT article, there will be no contextual images to support the article.

Unless some random user end up posting the file into a non-namespace page for whatever reason, Article 9's criteria are met

The file itself already seems to have it's summary fleshed out enough for one to reasonably consider it as fulfilling Article 10 of NFCC

aaaand that's really it. I hope this has been good enough of an argument for you to relent from deleting the file from wikipedia, but knowing me this probably will not change your conviction, but who knows. I would just be really disappointed if the file was removed, as it would make the EatEoT article incredibly bland, especially now that the individual infoboxes had their files removed. 🜚 Yatagarasu 🜚 16:44, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There's a general prohibition on the use of per album non-free album covers in discography type articles. Having a montage at the beginning of the article doesn't mean there's just one image. It's six images, not one. The rationale for this prohibition goes like this; if the album is sufficiently notable in its own right that we have an article on it, then an album cover on the album specific article is acceptable. If it's not sufficiently notable to have its own article, then no argument can sustain that we have to have an image on a discography that contains the album in question. This applies to all six albums in this case; none of them are notable in their own right. As an entire work, the discography is notable. But, that doesn't grant a permission slip to use every album cover in the article. If there were one album cover that is representative, that might be included. Using all six is against our NFC guideline and isn't permitted. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:01, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - A montage of images for the identification fails to meet WP:NFCC#3. If these each had their own article, individual images for the corresponding article would be fine but not in a collection or list article which this is essentially. -- Whpq (talk) 12:51, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - As the uploader of the file itself, yes, it must be deleted. The article in question tackles a series of albums released from 2016 to 2019. I initially uploaded it in order to summarize all of the album covers on the infobox at once, but then it struck me: infobox images are not for that. Especially in the case of albums, they are for quick identification of the article's subject. And a reader could quickly identify, say, this image, the painting for the last album of the series, as the cover art for Everywhere at the End of Time, and be certain that they're in the right article. Summarizing is what the lead section is for, not the infobox. After this file gets deleted, I'll upload the cover art shown in the previous link and present it there. It would be much less information the reader to digest and much less copyright laws Wikipedia would need to deal with. Wetrorave (talk) 17:39, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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