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Four big families of Hong Kong

• Four big families of Hong Kong · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I missed the prod. The "big 4" concept was obsolete in Hong Kong, but it was cited in secondary source in the past, so no such "PROD, concern was: self-identification as "blue-blood" family" —Matthew_hk tc 08:55, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. Hut 8.5 21:06, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Rosemead Preparatory School

• Draft:Rosemead Preparatory School · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

(This user used the preload form for G13 undeletion, but did not specify the name of the Draft they would like undeleted. Consider checking their deleted contributions.) Mrandrewsoong (talk) 10:48, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Hut 8.5 21:07, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

File:Southern Cross University.png

• File:Southern Cross University.png · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

Was deleted as unused after being removed from the article. Intend to re-added to the university article —Aloneinthewild (talk) 20:32, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

• @Aloneinthewild: the deleted version isn't the one which is currently on the university website and it was removed for being old. The fair use guidelines don't allow historical logos to be used in articles. I suggest you upload a newer logo. Hut 8.5 20:58, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

• • I think I was mistaking in thinking this was a crest, which would be fair use like the University of York and Durham University crests. If it is just the old logo then I will upload the new one. Aloneinthewild (talk) 21:06, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

• • • Oh no, it's nothing like that, it's the one you can see here. Hut 8.5 21:09, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

ABC Preon Model (2)

• ABC Preon Model · ( talk | logs | links | watch | afd ) · [revisions]

more notability now —24.205.150.243 (talk) 01:04, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

See above. AfD'd articles are not restored here unless the AfD had very little community participation. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 01:47, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

American Babies

• Draft:American Babies · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

Indie American Rock Band, no reason why it shouldn't be —Timothy J Kukulka 23:33, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Fixed the target - but it was deleted as redundant with the already-existing article. A draft that's a rehash of an existing article isn't accepted. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 23:35, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Feel_Good_Productions

• Draft:Feel_Good_Productions · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Vero.della, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Vero.della (talk) 14:25, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia.

Also see WP:BAND for inclusion criteria. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:15, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

American Sleep Association

• American Sleep Association · ( talk | logs | links | watch | afd ) · [revisions]

Expertise and authority where questioned previously. These issues have been resolved by listing the physicians and scientists who are responsible for the content.

Notability issues have been resolved. A previous notation referenced that was broken-link is now available. Furthermore, there are several notations and references to the organization from respected media sources, academic institutions, and government resources.

Please note that prior to 2016, there was a domain squatter using the exact same entity name. The domain squatter has since been removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleepdoctor1 (talk • contribs) 12:01, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Note: This page was deleted under speedy deletion criterion G4, which means the page is a near-carbon-copy of a page previously deleted via deletion debate. Pages deleted via deletion debate will not be restored here; go to WP:Deletion review or contact the administrator who closed the deletion debate instead. The title is in fact salted because it's been repeatedly re-created without addressing any of the issues brought up in the original AfD debate. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 18:53, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Well, the most recently deleted version is substantially different and expanded from the version that was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Sleep Association. However, the points raised in that discussion about lack of independent significant coverage by independent sources still isn't addressed.

I'd be willing to restore this to draft space for improvement provided it is submitted for review via the WP:AFC process. But it is not a main-space-ready article. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:50, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done. The requester created a draft anyway, so I merged the deleted history there. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:32, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

500 Block Buffalo

• Draft:500 Block Buffalo · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

this is an up and coming art and historical district, no reason it can't have space here —Timothy J Kukulka 23:35, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

The argument you're making is not a good one. See WP:Notability. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 23:37, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Correct. "Up and coming" subjects do not merit Wikipedia articles. A subject cannot be up-and-coming, it must have already arrived. When that happens, feel free to start the draft again. As long as there is no possibility now of the subject being notable, there is no point restoring it. We are not a hosting service for unsuitable material. I won't object if another admin restores it (it's G13 after all) but I personally don't see the point. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:11, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

The requestor has since created a page in mainspace which I've since tagged for G11 speedy deletion. Even if it weren't promotional it's a completely unsourced stub article. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 04:51, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Clubquickly

• Draft:Clubquickly · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I own this website and I want my users to keep them updated with the website.I was quite busy in past few days so I missed to update the article —Rbhargava25 (talk) 06:37, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Please see WP:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI; you are obligated to formally disclose this per our Terms of Use. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 09:17, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

The deleted draft is only three sentences, and promotional ones at that. No value in restoring.

Please comply with WP:PAID. Then you can start over, complying with WP:NPOV while you write. ~Anachronist (talk) 07:00, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

David J Kukulka

• David J. Kukulka · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Tkukulka, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Timothy J Kukulka 23:40, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

What is your connection to David Kukulka? —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 23:41, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:55, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Mamdouh Saif

• Draft:Mamdouh Saif · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Oshotoxx, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Oshotoxx (talk) 07:53, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

wanted to return as a draft —Oshotoxx (talk) 08:06, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as an Articles for creation (AfC) submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Please note that you never submitted the entry for review. When you are ready, you need to click on the button in the AfC submission template that says Submit your draft for review!. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:03, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Potato Chip Rock

• Potato Chip Rock · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch ) · [revisions]

Potato Chip Rock is an iconic tourist attraction in San Diego. It is mentioned on many websites, a quick Google search shows many pages about it, even an official page by the City of Poway. In fact it is so notable that the mayor even used it for a April Fool's Prank. —Boothsift (talk) 17:06, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia uses a far stricter definition of notability than you're using. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 17:46, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:42, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Pyramid Poultry Co.

• Draft:Pyramid Poultry Co. · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Wazmy001, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Wazmy001 (talk) 11:18, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Hut 8.5 15:03, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Wolfgang Grulke

• Draft:Wolfgang Grulke · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I would like to recover the original draft I created, especially all the references, and work on a new version of the article to submit to AFC. Thanks! —Dougvining (talk) 14:56, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done Hut 8.5 15:06, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Baker Twins

• The Baker Twins · ( talk | logs | links | watch | afd | afd2 ) · [revisions]

Reason for undeletion because some hacker deleted it —SamuelParmi1 (talk) 06:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

It was deleted by a administrator as the result of a (low-participation, hence REFUNDable) AfD debate, and the blatant bad faith does not reflect well on you. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 09:44, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

@Clpo13: do you consider yourself a hacker? ~Anachronist (talk) 22:53, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

I know some Python, does that count? clpo13_(talk) 23:00, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

I today undid revision 864925872 by admin Diannaa, who removed AfD template without explanation and in defiance of consensus in this thread. If I exceeded my authority, please feel free to revert my edit. KalHolmann (talk) 01:20, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

@KalHolmann: I reverted it. I don't understand why you restored an AFD template for a discussion that was closed months ago. No one will participate in the discussion once it has been closed. If you want to re-nominate the article for deletion, you will need to start a new discussion. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:50, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

(ec) I restored the deleted article, because a user had re-created it as a draft, which broke the attribution. This version has the attribution, as required by the CC-by license. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 01:53, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

@Diannaa: As I read it, the original page was not deleted on grounds of failed attribution. Am I mistaken? KalHolmann (talk) 02:06, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

The problem is that the draft, which was created on October 19, had no attribution (it was a copy-paste, identical to the deleted article). So I restored the original page, which has the legally required attribution, and redirected the draft to the article. The AFD was closed as "soft delete", which means that the article can be restored on request, so I took the creation of an identical draft to be such a request. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 02:17, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

@Diannaa: So submitting a copy-paste, identical to the deleted article, is equivalent to requesting restoration of a soft-deleted page! That's most impressive. Thank you for explaining. KalHolmann (talk) 02:24, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

It seemed the simplest solution to the attribution problem — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 02:28, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

@Diannaa: It makes me wonder, though, why we even have this page "Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion"—I mean, other than to needlessly complicate matters. KalHolmann (talk) 02:31, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

ARTandMUSIC

• ARTandMUSIC · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

A legitimate indie rock musical group —2605:E000:5AC1:6100:14B4:14FC:43E6:D3D3 (talk) 15:03, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Note: Surely you jest! No page's ever existed under that title (or any reasonable permutation of it) in any reasonable namespace! Are you sure that the page's title, capitalisation and all, is correct? I checked mainspace and draft space, but not userspace as the requesting user is an IP (and as such I wouldn't have the foggiest in whose namespace to search). —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 17:45, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

The IP has no deleted contributions either. Malformed request, not actionable.  Not done. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Alex Heller

• Draft:Alex Heller · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

G13 (to see if the draft should really need to be deleted). —Taku (talk) 23:16, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Hut 8.5 20:47, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Luis Seco

• Draft:Luis Seco · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

G13 (I have no idea about the content of the draft and would like to see if it needs to be deleted). —Taku (talk) 23:18, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Hut 8.5 20:48, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Universal Topology

• Draft:Universal Topology · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

G13 (I don't know if this needs to be deleted). —Taku (talk) 23:19, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

• Not done essentially all of it is taken from the introduction to [1], making it a copyright violation. Hut 8.5 20:53, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Young Justice Bao

• Young Justice Bao · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch ) · [revisions]

This is a 1994 Singaporean TV series that was aired nationally, meets WP:NTV. Very loosely based on a 19th-century novel The Seven Heroes and Five Gallants, several characters (Zhan Zhao, Bai Yutang, Pang Yu etc.) are straight from the book. Whoever deleted it didn't seem to have made any attempt to address the concern ("it has no citations and does not indicate it's importance"). —Timmyshin (talk) 01:08, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. I suggest adding some citations as there aren't any at all. Hut 8.5 20:57, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Moriba Jah

• Draft:Moriba Jah · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, QuiddityEmpowered, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. QuiddityEmpowered (talk) 13:49, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Hut 8.5 21:03, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Egor Kraft

• Egor Kraft · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

What is the main criteria for speedy deletion and what should be changed for keeping the article —Anne Demidova (talk) 20:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Note: This page was deleted under speedy deletion criterion G12, which indicates a page copied and pasted wholesale from another source, or otherwise closely paraphrased from same. G12 deletions will not be overturned here or anywhere else. See WP:Criteria for speedy deletion, WP:Copyright violations, and WP:Neutral point of view. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 23:02, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

User:SchoolsForChiapas/sandbox

• User:SchoolsForChiapas/sandbox · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

User:SchoolsForChiapas/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimberlyelirosa (talk • contribs) 21:19, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:00, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

User:Mythdon

• User:Mythdon · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch | mfd ) · [revisions]

Restore every revision all the way back to the first time the page was created.—Mythdon (talk • contribs) 01:37, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done please don't ask for this to be deleted again. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:04, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
  • I promise last time is the last time. Sorry for any inconvenience or time I've wasted with this.—Mythdon (talk • contribs) 06:17, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Chinese Influence on Japanese Culture undeletion

• Chinese influence on japanese culture · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch ) · [revisions]

The Article is currently being worked on and is needed in order to receive reviews. —Unknown M.W. (talk) 03:55, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Are you looking for User:Unknown M.W./Chinese influence on Japanese culture? The main space article you made only had a statement you were working on it. Since you blanked it, it was deleted. You can recreate if you have useful content to add. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 04:56, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

It might be best to go through WP:AfC, where you can work in relative peace and then seek review when the page is ready for main space. I empathise with the feeling of having one's blank deleted. It happened to me once.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 19:11, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Oleg Atbashian

• Draft:Oleg Atbashian · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

(This user used the preload form for G13 undeletion, but did not specify the name of the Draft they would like undeleted. Consider checking their deleted contributions.) Atbashian (talk) 18:30, 23 October 2018 (UTC) Draft:Oleg Atbashian

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:38, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Rumah Sakit

• Rumah Sakit · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch | afd ) · [revisions]

Requesting userfication of deleted article. I have located additional sources (e.g., [2], [3], [4]) substantiating notability and would like to work from the previous article, in my own space, for potential restoration. No response from deleting admin. —Chubbles (talk) 23:04, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

• Userfied – the page has been restored to the userspace at User:Chubbles/Rumah Sakit. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:49, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Aloysius R. Callaghan

• Aloysius R. Callaghan · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I would like to create an article on this person, and would like to request userification of the article so as to have something to work off of as I create the page for resubmission. —~Darth Stabro^{Talk/Contribs} 03:16, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done @Darth Stabro: see User:Darth Stabro/Aloysius R. Callaghan. Hut 8.5 20:37, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Cloudistics

• Draft:Cloudistics · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Bozhestvo, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Bozhestvo (talk) 10:45, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Hut 8.5 20:39, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Sophie Hicks

• Draft:Sophie Hicks · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Archfashion, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Archfashion (talk) 11:01, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Hut 8.5 20:42, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Dilute (band)

• Dilute (band) · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch ) · [revisions]

Requesting restoration; this article was PRODded twice, which is not supposed to happen. —Chubbles (talk) 11:19, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. Hut 8.5 20:46, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Hisham baeshen

• Hisham baeshen · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

It is famous chef blogger — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.237.86.198 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done, restored to Draft:Hisham baeshen for improvement and submission via WP:AFC. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:41, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Research Administrators Certification Council (RACC)

• Draft:Research Administrators Certification Council (RACC) · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Amgray19, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Amgray19 (talk) 18:47, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Declined pending further information. This was undeleted over six months ago with a pledge that it would be worked on, but no edits were made to improve the entry for resubmission. Articles for creation is not an indefinite hosting service for material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia's article mainspace. We may be willing to restore it again, but only if you provide a definite assurance that you actually intend to work on it and provide a short description of what you intend to do to improve it to meet our policies and guidelines. Please advise. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:45, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Desmond Cole

• Desmond Cole · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch | afd ) · [revisions]

I am working on a brand new version of an article about Cole - at User:Geo Swan/Desmond Cole. I asked the closing administrator to graft the deleted versions to the beginning of User:Geo Swan/Desmond Cole.

They declined, asserting that the previous 2017 article was a cut and paste copyright violation of the webarchive version of Cole's personal webpage from 2007.

A comparison of the deletionpedia version of the Desmond Cole article, and the webarchive version of Cole's personal webpage from 2007, shows zero overlap. There are no repeated paragraphs, no repeated sentences. I simply can't explain why the closing administrator insists there is a copyright problem.

We are all fallible, so I am happy to assume the closing administrator is normally on the ball, and that the copyright violation they think they found is an instance of normal human fallibity -- not their best work.

So, I am requesting grafting of the deleted revisions of Desmond Cole to User:Geo Swan/Desmond Cole, and Talk:Desmond Cole to User talk:Geo Swan/Desmond Cole.

Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 16:41, 24 October 2018 (UTC) —Geo Swan (talk) 16:41, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

There are three versions of the article in the history:

• Two versions deleted in 2006.
• Two versions deleted in 2006, four minutes after the first.
• 22 versions that existed from May to July 2017.

My copyright based objections apply to the four 2006 versions as I interpreted Would you please graft the first revisions of Desmond Cole to User:Geo Swan/Desmond Cole? as referring to the 2006 versions rather than the 2017 ones. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:03, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

• This should not be that difficult.

Obviously the 22 revisions from May to July 2017 are very useful. They contain the references used in 2017. Google used to be a fabulous tool, for wikipedia contributors. But, over the last dozen or so years, google technical staff have tuned it, to make it more useful to advertizers who use google, and google's day to day users. Their tuning have tuned out older and more obscure hits -- no longer shown to us. Great for advertizers and day to day users, but bad for us. So, old references are very useful.

The old revisions also show who worked on the article, useful if a contributor today wanted to contact them for their opinion or advice.

Revisions within that 22 might have valuable material, that someone trimmed, that deserves being re-inserted today.

As for the four revisions from 2006, which I didn't even know existed, until JJE explained here that was the sole reason to deny my request... There is a pretty good chance that the contributor was Cole himself, in which case it would not be a copyright violation, but would be a lapse from WP:COI, and some other policies and guidelines. If the 2006 contributor was Cole himself, or a friend of his, and the wiki-ID had left email contact info, I'd ask them if they had an image of Cole that could be released under a free license, to illustrate the article.

Part of what I wrote on User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus was:

But, when copyrighted material is accidentally, or on purpose, inserted into article space, we don't generally take steps to hide the copyright material from those looking at prior revisions. Generally, we just revert the revision(s) which added copyright material, or replace it with new content that is not a copyright violation. Is it your opinion that the presence of one or more revisions that you think contain copyrighted material justify not restoring revisions that don't contain copyrighted material?

1. Is the existence of deleted revisions that contained copyright violations a good reason to decline to restore deleted revisions that do not contain copyright violations? Surely there is no copyright problem restoring revisions that do not contain material protected by copyright.
2. Is the existence of deleted revisions that contained copyright violations a good reason to decline to restore all deleted revisions when subsequent deleted versions do not contain copyright violations? No one would revert back to the version from 2006 -- even by accident, because it is a dozen years out of date.

So, could someone restore the 22 revisions from 2017, and the talk page, and record here the wiki-ID(s) used for the four revisions from 2006? Geo Swan (talk) 18:03, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: If it were me, I'd restore the whole thing and hide the copyvio diffs. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:47, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

I've done so without the prior page version. Now at User:Geo Swan/Desmond Cole 2. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:57, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

• Great! Jo-Jo Eumerus would it be possible to record, here, the wiki-ID(s) who made the four edits in 2006? It is likely that those edits were made by Cole himself, or someone associated with him. While a lapse from COI, and other guidelines, it is likely they could release a free image of Cole, to illustrate the article. Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 18:20, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

• Geordiemcruer is the editor you seek. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:29, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
• I see the 2017 versions contained an image File:Desmond-cole-amdphotography-17.jpg, but one that triggered some concern for me, so after a google image search I sent an email to the individual I think took it, which I copied to Commons:File_talk:Desmond-cole-amdphotography-17.jpg Geo Swan (talk) 02:45, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Hisham baeshen

• Hisham baeshen · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

It is famous chef blogger — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.237.86.198 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done, restored to Draft:Hisham baeshen for improvement and submission via WP:AFC. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:41, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Research Administrators Certification Council (RACC)

• Draft:Research Administrators Certification Council (RACC) · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Amgray19, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Amgray19 (talk) 18:47, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Declined pending further information. This was undeleted over six months ago with a pledge that it would be worked on, but no edits were made to improve the entry for resubmission. Articles for creation is not an indefinite hosting service for material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia's article mainspace. We may be willing to restore it again, but only if you provide a definite assurance that you actually intend to work on it and provide a short description of what you intend to do to improve it to meet our policies and guidelines. Please advise. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:45, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Desmond Cole

• Desmond Cole · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch | afd ) · [revisions]

I am working on a brand new version of an article about Cole - at User:Geo Swan/Desmond Cole. I asked the closing administrator to graft the deleted versions to the beginning of User:Geo Swan/Desmond Cole.

They declined, asserting that the previous 2017 article was a cut and paste copyright violation of the webarchive version of Cole's personal webpage from 2007.

A comparison of the deletionpedia version of the Desmond Cole article, and the webarchive version of Cole's personal webpage from 2007, shows zero overlap. There are no repeated paragraphs, no repeated sentences. I simply can't explain why the closing administrator insists there is a copyright problem.

We are all fallible, so I am happy to assume the closing administrator is normally on the ball, and that the copyright violation they think they found is an instance of normal human fallibity -- not their best work.

So, I am requesting grafting of the deleted revisions of Desmond Cole to User:Geo Swan/Desmond Cole, and Talk:Desmond Cole to User talk:Geo Swan/Desmond Cole.

Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 16:41, 24 October 2018 (UTC) —Geo Swan (talk) 16:41, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

There are three versions of the article in the history:

• Two versions deleted in 2006.
• Two versions deleted in 2006, four minutes after the first.
• 22 versions that existed from May to July 2017.

My copyright based objections apply to the four 2006 versions as I interpreted Would you please graft the first revisions of Desmond Cole to User:Geo Swan/Desmond Cole? as referring to the 2006 versions rather than the 2017 ones. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 17:03, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

• This should not be that difficult.

Obviously the 22 revisions from May to July 2017 are very useful. They contain the references used in 2017. Google used to be a fabulous tool, for wikipedia contributors. But, over the last dozen or so years, google technical staff have tuned it, to make it more useful to advertizers who use google, and google's day to day users. Their tuning have tuned out older and more obscure hits -- no longer shown to us. Great for advertizers and day to day users, but bad for us. So, old references are very useful.

The old revisions also show who worked on the article, useful if a contributor today wanted to contact them for their opinion or advice.

Revisions within that 22 might have valuable material, that someone trimmed, that deserves being re-inserted today.

As for the four revisions from 2006, which I didn't even know existed, until JJE explained here that was the sole reason to deny my request... There is a pretty good chance that the contributor was Cole himself, in which case it would not be a copyright violation, but would be a lapse from WP:COI, and some other policies and guidelines. If the 2006 contributor was Cole himself, or a friend of his, and the wiki-ID had left email contact info, I'd ask them if they had an image of Cole that could be released under a free license, to illustrate the article.

Part of what I wrote on User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus was:

But, when copyrighted material is accidentally, or on purpose, inserted into article space, we don't generally take steps to hide the copyright material from those looking at prior revisions. Generally, we just revert the revision(s) which added copyright material, or replace it with new content that is not a copyright violation. Is it your opinion that the presence of one or more revisions that you think contain copyrighted material justify not restoring revisions that don't contain copyrighted material?

1. Is the existence of deleted revisions that contained copyright violations a good reason to decline to restore deleted revisions that do not contain copyright violations? Surely there is no copyright problem restoring revisions that do not contain material protected by copyright.
2. Is the existence of deleted revisions that contained copyright violations a good reason to decline to restore all deleted revisions when subsequent deleted versions do not contain copyright violations? No one would revert back to the version from 2006 -- even by accident, because it is a dozen years out of date.

So, could someone restore the 22 revisions from 2017, and the talk page, and record here the wiki-ID(s) used for the four revisions from 2006? Geo Swan (talk) 18:03, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: If it were me, I'd restore the whole thing and hide the copyvio diffs. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:47, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

I've done so without the prior page version. Now at User:Geo Swan/Desmond Cole 2. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:57, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

• Great! Jo-Jo Eumerus would it be possible to record, here, the wiki-ID(s) who made the four edits in 2006? It is likely that those edits were made by Cole himself, or someone associated with him. While a lapse from COI, and other guidelines, it is likely they could release a free image of Cole, to illustrate the article. Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 18:20, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

• Geordiemcruer is the editor you seek. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 18:29, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
• I see the 2017 versions contained an image File:Desmond-cole-amdphotography-17.jpg, but one that triggered some concern for me, so after a google image search I sent an email to the individual I think took it, which I copied to Commons:File_talk:Desmond-cole-amdphotography-17.jpg Geo Swan (talk) 02:45, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Ann S. Zweig

• Draft:Ann S. Zweig (scientist) · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I would like to create an article on this person, and would like to work off the information provided in the deleted article.

—204.85.24.5 (talk) 17:03, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as an Articles for creation (AfC) submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Please note that you never submitted the entry for review. When you are ready, you need to click on the button in the AfC submission template that says Submit your draft for review!. This will need more independent sources to prove notability. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:33, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Michael Avenatti

• Michael Avenatti · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch ) · [revisions]

An old version of the page was deleted at AFD when his primary claim of notability was participating in 24 Hours of Le Mans (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael avenatti); can those revisions be restored to the page history? —power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:00, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:35, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

File:RossBartonED.jpg

• File:RossBartonED.jpg · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

File was deleted under F5 - unused file, Thanks —–Davey2010^Talk 01:09, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done Hut 8.5 06:45, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks Hut 8.5 :) –Davey2010^Talk 09:23, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

बिक्रम मालती

• बिक्रम मालती · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

Enter your reasoning here and then click the "Publish changes" button below —36.252.235.253 (talk) 08:00, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

There is nothing to undelete. I do not see anything by that title in article or Draft space. —C.Fred (talk) 13:49, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm guessing this guy wants the article deleted on ne.wp. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 18:47, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

A. Srinivasa murthy

• Draft:A. Srinivasa Murthy · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

because it a page of a present dubbing artist Enter your reasoning here and then click the "Publish changes" button below —27.62.9.52 (talk) 17:33, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as an Articles for creation (AfC) submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Please note that you never submitted the entry for review. When you are ready, you need to click on the button in the AfC submission template that says Submit your draft for review!. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:48, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Milk Makeup

• Draft:Milk Makeup · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I went to start the articles for creation process for this page only to see it was previously speedily deleted, coded CSD G11 and CSD G13. I wasn’t able to see the previous editor’s draft yet but let me fix this page to Wikipedian standards for company articles. There are more than enough reliable sources to establish its notability. And no, I am not connected to the subject.

Edit:I just realized I’m asking for undeletion of a G11 coded article. —Trillfendi (talk) 20:11, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

If the page was deleted as G13, it obviously wasn't so screaming promotional that G11 was justifiable. It's not uncommon for drafts, especially by newer or COI users, to have a slight bent due to biases. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 21:05, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:25, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Movie Radio Spots

• Movie Radio Spots · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

Enter your reasoning here and then click the "Publish changes" button below —Vbeydler (talk) 08:07, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Admins please note: I've tried to fix this request. This is the first edit by V in over two years. The logs do not show anything so I am not sure what article they are referring to. MarnetteD|Talk 08:15, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Deleted contributions log showed Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Movie Radio Spots. I'm going to restore that to Draft:Movie radio spots. —C.Fred (talk) 15:07, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia.

@Vbeydler: The page is now located at Draft:Movie radio spots for you to work on. —C.Fred (talk) 15:09, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Mohsen Farzi

• Draft:Mohsen Farzi · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Isf1368, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Isf1368 (talk) 08:18, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia.

@Isf1368: Note that a substantial rewrite is needed; please start on that. —C.Fred (talk) 15:11, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Brain Computer Interface Society

• Draft:Brain Computer Interface Society · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Bzallison, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Bzallison (talk) 19:34, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

This was already undeleted once almost a year ago with a pledge that it would be worked on, but no edits were made to improve the entry for resubmission. Articles for creation is not an indefinite hosting service for material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia's article mainspace. We may be willing to restore it again, but only if you provide a definite assurance that you actually intend to work on it and provide a short description of what you intend to do to improve it to meet our policies and guidelines. Please advise. —Cryptic 20:10, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Clinical Forest Therapy

• Draft:Clinical Forest Therapy · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Fichtennadel, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Fichtennadel (talk) 17:29, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Note: in mainspace I would delete this as advertising, please make sure you write in accordance with WP:NPOV. Hut 8.5 10:53, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Eric Li (actor)

• Eric Li (actor) · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

Source of Eric Li: [5] —B dash (talk) 10:17, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done @B dash: I've moved this to Draft:Eric Li (actor). I think we should really have a source other than a celebrity news site covering his wedding. Hut 8.5 10:58, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Trevor Cheek

• Trevor Cheek · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch | afd ) · [revisions]

He has reached WP:NHOCKEY notability with 200 AHL games played, i intend to update it. cheers Triggerbit (talk) 23:40, 27 October 2018 (UTC) —Triggerbit (talk) 23:40, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done @Triggerbit: I've moved it to Draft:Trevor Cheek for you to update. Hut 8.5 11:03, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Gopi Krishna Media Entertainments

• Draft:Gopi Krishna Media Entertainments · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

Enter your reasoning here and then click the "Publish changes" button below —Tcs1208 (talk) 07:52, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done I'd appreciate it if you didn't waste people's time by requesting that a page be deleted and then requesting that it be restored a couple of hours later. Hut 8.5 11:05, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Gasterophilus Nasalis

• Draft:Gasterophilus Nasalis · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Shirt58, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Shirt58 (talk) 10:00, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Sure, no problem at all. Should be Gasterophilus nasalis, with the specific epithet uncapitalised. The article was originally created by Parasistology2018 so it would be pretty much WP:PLAGIARISM if I re-created it myself. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:25, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

You seem to have requested that this be restored and then restored it yourself? I think you can just restore it. Hut 8.5 11:08, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Now  Already done see Draft:Gasterophilus nasalis Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:37, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Robert Diamant, FAIA

• Draft:Robert Diamant, FAIA · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, 2601:644:2:C23B:B54C:226E:B315:690B, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. 2601:644:2:C23B:B54C:226E:B315:690B (talk) 21:12, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:39, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Yuvabalan Manimaran

• Yuvabalan Manimaran · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Yuvabalan, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Jonathan Smith (talk) 06:51, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. see Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Yuvabalan Manimaran. If this is about you please read WP:Autobiography. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:47, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Template:Ltb

• Template:Ltb · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch ) · [revisions]

Surprised this was deleted: I had started using it a week ago and now the uses I've made of this template in still active discussions are broken. —– Uanfala (talk) 10:18, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:50, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

File:Map Passaic County Paterson NJ.gif

• File:Map Passaic County Paterson NJ.gif · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

Deleted by Bot as if orphaned, but in use as actually used in page and described in page as used, not orphaned, not orphaned, not orphaned. -Wikid77 (talk) 11:19, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. Please unorphan it. It appears to be unused. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:52, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Sana Sarfaraz

• Sana Sarfaraz · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch | afd | afd2 ) · [revisions]

Person is notable and nominated at notable award too [6], page should be undeleted, also please check [7], [8] —122.8.46.51 (talk) 11:26, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:55, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

@Graeme Bartlett: This IP range is sock of User:Liborbital. --Saqib (talk) 12:12, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Etoosindia

• Etoosindia · ( talk | logs | links | watch | afd ) · [revisions]

I am really sorry, I was not aware about your promotional content guidelines, so I had updated the content. I will keep in mind not to update any such content from next time. So its a kind request to activate the ETOOSINDIA Wikipedia page. I will be highly grateful & I will make sure this mistake will not happen again. "Publish changes" button below —Lekh92 (talk) 06:43, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

• Not done – this page was deleted as a blatant advertisement under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion and Wikipedia is not to be used as a vehicle for promotion. This does not necessarily mean a suitable article on this topic cannot be created. If it is a notable topic, e.g., multiple reliable, secondary, published sources that are entirely independent of the subject have written about it in substantive detail (not just mere mentions), then a neutrally written article may be possible. This one was written like a commercial. ReaderofthePack (｡◕‿◕｡) 17:35, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:TribalVision

• Draft:TribalVision · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Gwilks401, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. Gwilks401 (talk) 17:34, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

This was restored before with no action taken to improve it. So User:Gwilks401 what do you plan to do? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:25, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Markus Porvari

• Draft:Markus Porvari · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I, Hyperin, request the undeletion of this draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13. Please restore the page as I intend to work on it. —Hyperin (talk) 18:52, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

• Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:26, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

बिक्रम मालती (2)

• Page name goes here · ( talk | logs | links | watch ) · [revisions]

Enter your reasoning here and then click the "Publish changes" button below —All bikram (talk) 10:17, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

It is not on this Wikipedia. See ne:बिक्रम_मालती, it does not appear to be deleted. Perhaps you can ask for undeletion here: ne:विकिपिडिया:प्रबन्धक_सूचनापाटी Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:44, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

This was explained above. Administrators on the English Wikipedia have no authority over what happens on the Nepali Wikipedia. (Can we get someone who reads/writes Nepali to explain this to him?) —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 20:11, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Google Translate produces "नेपाली विकिपीडियामा के हुने हो भने अंग्रेज विकिपीडियामा प्रशासकहरू छैनन्". Hut 8.5 21:57, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Google Translate mangles East and South Asian languages. We'd need someone who can competently read/write the language. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 03:49, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

BiglyBT

• BiglyBT · ( talk | logs | history | links | watch ) · [revisions]

I'm requesting the article be sent to my email. I also disagree with the deletion, as seen in User_talk:Seraphimblade#Speedy Deletion of BiglyBT —Romerojp (talk) 00:46, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

@Romerojp: It's already been userfied to User:Romerojp/BiglyBT. ~Anachronist (talk) 07:05, 30 October 2018 (UTC)