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January 22

downloads now screwed up

Wikipedia has changed its download format and it is not an improvement. The neologism for such improvements is "deprovements, " i.e. taking some function that was well-established, workable, convenient and efficient and making it the antithesis of those qualities. Too bad. Techs are never happy until they have ruined something good. The rules is: if it can be done, it MUST be done. At one time, the "print" version of the Wiki copy was automatically made into a Pdf which was then zipped onto my desktop. Now I get a grey blob resembling a very heavy fog from which with arcane symbols emerge at the bottom which I have yet to figure out and one has to wait eons for it to translate into a printable form. Then it has to be made into a Pdf to be affixed to the desktop. What's the advantage of the new many stepped system? Why was it changed? I love Wikipedia and support it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.47.38.132 (talk) 01:27, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

What browser are you using? The reason I ask is that a while back Firefox added a default "feature" that is a barrier to direct pdf downloads: a PDF viewer. I found it very annoying. What happens is that instead of downloading the PDF as expected, it previews the PDF file in some format which has a grey background. Accordingly, I'm wondering if it's possibly not Wikipedia that has changed anything and prompted your question, but whether it's this browser change that made you think it was a change here. Anyway, when I go to an article and click on "Download as PDF" from the links under "print/export", it simply downloads as a PDF. But this is only after I fixed Firefox's fix by turning it off. If this is the issue, then see this page with instructions for turning it off. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:48, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Just tried to get a pdf of an article as well. I've never done it before since I've never needed to but it worked fine. Using Win7 and Firefox. I suspect you're right about OP's browser issue. Dismas|^(talk) 01:53, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Arrangement of images in an article

I've been trying to rearrange three images on the Survivor: Cook Islands article. They're currently placed vertically with a bunch of blank space to the left (which is so annoying), so I'm trying to place them horizontally. I've tried placing "|left|", "|center|", and "|right|" in the links, which doesn't totally work for me. I've also got the same issue with the Survivor: South Pacific article. Is there any way to do what I'm trying to do? Survivorfan1995 (talk) 03:46, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

remember first that everyone who looks at the page is going to have a different screen size from 60 inch internet TVs to 2 inch hand helds, and different browsers and fonts and font sizes. Making it look "perfect" for your particular settings will assuredly make it awful for someone else. But the easiest formatting method to get pictures in a row is via the gallery markup. WP:GALLERY. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:14, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Alright, I tried the gallery thing, and something's still wrong with it. When I previewed it, the images didn't show up at all. Instead, there were two blank images with the text "!contestant" and "!finish". How can I make it work? Survivorfan1995 (talk) 04:25, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

You could also try the {{Stack}} template.--ukexpat (talk) 04:41, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, I looked at the instructions, but I'm not sure if that's what I need or not. I don't quite understand. Could anybody help me do this? Again, I'm trying to place the three images horizontally above the chart under the "Contestants" section. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 05:25, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I've used the gallery commands - as was suggested above. I don't know what the problem was when you tried it, since you only previewed it, so I can't see what your settings were. It can help other editors diagnose a problem if you save the page, and then immediately undo your save, as this keeps a record of what you tried, which didn't work, but keeps the page as it was, if another reader comes along. I wonder if you did not remove the "thumb", pixel heights and position parameters when trying to set up the gallery?.
Please note that I did not use a "standard" gallery, as this makes the images rather small, and this in turn makes the relatively long captions rather awkward; so I increased the gallery height, and then tweaked that slightly, so that the captions now fit on two lines. If you don't like it, then just undo it. - Arjayay (talk) 11:15, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I got the feeling that the gallery may have been placed within the table or something, as "contestant" and "finish" are columns there (but I saw this a time earlier at which I could not comment on it. - Purplewowies (talk) 15:59, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

As an almost completely unrelated side note, how come "reality" TV show articles are always physically painful to look at? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 13:23, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I suspect this is to accurately reflect the programmes, which are equally painful to look at ;-) - Arjayay (talk) 14:28, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

And they end up looking more like fan pages than encyclopedia articles.--ukexpat (talk) 14:40, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh okay, thanks!! I've never done a gallery before, so it just wasn't easy to do for a first time. But I think I get it now. I can just use the one you did as a reference. And BTW, I did consider saving the original edit and reverting it like Arjayay said, but I didn't think that'd be appropriate, since wikipedia isn't for test edits. Sorry I took me so long to get back here; it was bedtime for me. oh and just for one more little side note here for User:Ukexpat: another user has significantly cleaned up these Survivor articles, so if they still look like fan pages, just know that they're nothing compared to what they were before ;) Survivorfan1995 (talk) 15:55, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

You are quite right - Wikipedia is not for test edits. In theory you should have copied the article (or section) to your sandbox, tried your options there, and posted the URL of the version along with your explanation, of the problem. However, provided it is reverted immediately, there would be little harm done - certainly considering the thousands of editors who never preview their work - not to mention those that never look at it at all, before leaving the page. Arjayay (talk) 16:48, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I'll keep that suggestion in mind in the future. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 16:58, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I note that Gloss (talk) has just reverted these changes - can I suggest Survivorfan1995 talks to them about this? Arjayay (talk) 18:47, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I saw the discussion over at User:Gloss's talk page about the positioning of the pictures and I'm not really seeing what User:Arjayay was talking about. Can I upload a screenshot here of what it looks like on my end? I don't think anybody really understands one another's explanations here. Survivorfan1995 (talk) 19:01, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Looks like the conversation's moved to User talk:Gloss if anybody'd be interested in contributing further :) Survivorfan1995 (talk) 20:21, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Majid Al Futtaim Group

To whom it may concern,

I am sending you this comment requesting to know more about the admin access of the "Majid Al Futtaim Group" Wikipedia article. I am Taha Benazoun, responsible for Digital Media at Majid AL Futtaim Holding in Dubai (United Arab Emirates), and I wanted to add our logo and other elements to the article, a thing that I can only do through the admin access. I was wondering if you could help me with this issue and advise on how we can solve this, because we, at the company, are not really aware of who holds the admin credentials for the page, which are supposed to be handled by my team.

Looking forward to hearing back from you.

Best Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbenazoun (talk • contribs) 05:40, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Majid Al Futtaim Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

There are a couple of points that your questions bring up.

1. There is no "admin access" to the article Majid Al Futtaim Group. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. Occasionally, articles will be protected for various reasons but that is often not the case. And indeed, the article for Majid Al Futtaim Group can be edited by anyone. (relevant policy: WP:OWN)
2. As an employee of the company, you are strongly discouraged from editing the article itself due to your conflict of interest. We are writing an unbiased encyclopedia and not providing advertising for companies. So it would be best for you to only make suggestions for improvement to the article on the article's talk page which can be found at Talk:Majid Al Futtaim Group. (relevant policy: WP:COI)

So, please, just suggest edits on the talk page of the article. If you request something there, please use the Request edit template to draw attention to it.

Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 07:41, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I see that the article is at present highly promotional, with phrases such as "came on board to provide the lifestyle components". It needs cleaning up by an unbiased editor. I could do it myself, but I fear there wouldn't be much left when I finished. Maproom (talk) 08:21, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I've done a substantial amount of cutting. See what you think now, Maproom. Dismas|^(talk) 08:36, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I think you have improved it hugely. It now looks like an encyclopedia article, rather than a marketing brochure. Maproom (talk) 08:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

The only issue is that the current left content doesn't really describe majid Al Futtaim as it should be. I would really appreciate if the article could at least be updated with the relevant information. While my updates sounded subjective because I am related to the company, the current information is subjective as well because they don't really convey all the relevant information about the group. Please advise how we can improve that. Tbenazoun

The best course of action would be to suggest your changes on the article's talkpage, as Dismas has already suggested. Bear in mind, though, than any changes which are not neutral or supported by reliable sources will not be implemented. Note also that your idea of what the article should be may differ quite substantially from Wikipedia's. Yunshui 雲‍水 12:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Placing the TOC immediately after the first paragraph in the lead

Hello. I seem to be fast becoming a regular at the Help desk. Anyway, I was wondering if it were possible to place the table of contents immediately after the first paragraph in the lead. The article of interest is List of municipalities in Saskatchewan. Currently the TOC is right-floated and at the end of the lead, making it sandwiched awkwardly between the lead and the body.

We are constrained by the guidelines on the matter (#2 and #5 of "Floating the TOC" on the Help:Section page, meaning that we can't put it at the very beginning of the article, before the first paragraph. However, we are also unaware of how to place it immediately after the first paragraph in the lead. Any assistance you can give us would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! AmericanLemming (talk) 07:16, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm not clear on who "we" are but you can put the TOC anywhere you choose by moving the TOC template that is in the article to wherever you want it to display. I'm not sure why it is wrapped in the stack template either. Since you suggest you've been here before, maybe it was pointed out already but I'm not sure why you don't just let the TOC automatically fall where it normally does. I just did a preview of the various layouts and, in my opinion, it looks fine if you just let the page layout automatically put the TOC where it normally goes. Dismas|^(talk) 07:49, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, by "we" I guess I was referring to Hwy43, Mattximus, and myself. (See Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of municipalities in Saskatchewan/archive1.) I am all in favor of putting the TOC in the default position, but Hwy43 and Mattximus have their reasons for putting it where they do, and I can't think of a better reason to put it in the default position besides "that's where I'd put it." Thanks for the quick reply, though! AmericanLemming (talk) 08:17, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. I moved it to the default position and liked it but then saw that I was blundering into the middle of a discussion over the issue, so I reverted my edit. I see that Maproom reverted and agreed with me. So, I guess we both vote for the default position.  :) Dismas|^(talk) 08:39, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I have also started a discussion about it on the article's talk page, where it belongs rather than here. I hope Hwy43 or Mattximus will explain their reasons there. Maproom (talk) 08:43, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

The problem is not the table of contents. The problem is that the lead in List of municipalities in Saskatchewan does not summarize the body of the article with appropriate weight per WP:LEAD. Instead, it is the body of the article. While not related to the TOC positioning issue, WP:LEADSENTENCE specifically reads "The first sentence should tell the nonspecialist reader what (or who) the subject is." If someone told you "Saskatchewan is the sixth-most populous province in Canada with 1,033,381 residents as of 2011 and is the fifth-largest in land area at approximately 588,000 km2 (227,000 sq mi)." would you immediately think "List of municipalities in Saskatchewan"? -- Jreferee (talk) 11:38, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Given that the pages are viewed on everything from 60 inch internet TVs to 2 inch hand helds with every user having different browser, text font and display settings, creating a "perfect" view on your particular device is pretty much guaranteed to give a poor result to someone else, the effort seems pretty much a waste of time. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 12:51, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Agreed, and with that in mind there would have to be overwhelming reasons to move the TOC from its default position.--ukexpat (talk) 14:48, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Question related ton article for creation

Hello, I'm trying to create an article since 27 December 2013. It was declined the first day, then I tried to improve it with the advices of live help chat admins. The article was again declined. I would like to know what I have to do now, since the admin who declined did not answer to my remarks and request to answer. Best regards--2.6.131.146 (talk) 11:49, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

You ask "what you have to do now". One possibility is to accept that the subject of the article is not, by Wikipedia's standards, notable, and that nothing you can do is likely to change this. You have done all that you can, and your failure to establish its notability is not your fault. Maproom (talk) 12:03, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't understand 2 things: 1/ Admins of live chat help said the article is ok 2/ the article exists on other Wikipedias, for example in french. In other side, I have read notable, and in my opinion the article matches wikipeda criteria.--2.6.131.146 (talk) 12:09, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Your opinion regarding notable needs to be backed up by providing a list of source material that amounts to "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" per WP:GNG. As for your draft, do not include any material or sources in the that are not independent reliable sources. Rewrite the draft only using Wikipedia Reliable Sources. The sources cited in the draft need to be independent of the National centre of research in social and cultural anthropology. Also, if you want to persuade people, do no use websites as source material for the article. Try to use only physically printed media, such as newspapers, book, and magazines. Any source material from Newspapers published in Algeria should help out. The draft claims the name of the topic is Centre national de recherche en anthropologie sociale et culturelle. However, there is no "N" in CRASC and I find plenty of source material for the article looking for Centre de recherche en anthropologie sociale et culturelle. For example, summarize this, this in the article. You can find a good number of articles on the CRASC topic at allafrica.com, such as by posting a request at Resource Request. For some reason, you keep focusing on "advices of live help chat admins," which is not how Wikipedia makes its decisions. Wikipedia makes decisions by consensus, not "Admins of live help chat". If User:EagerToddler39 and User:Hasteur agree, we can move the draft to article space and list at WP:AFD as a way of moving this matter forward. -- Jreferee (talk) 12:33, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your help, that's what I was looking for. About CRASC without "N", the original name of the institution is "Centre de recherche en anthropologie sociale et culturelle", but when the government changed it to "Centre national de recherche en anthropologie sociale et culturelle", they kept CRASC because the institution was already notably known under this name. However, some media continue sometimes to use the old name. So I will try later to apply your observations. Cheers--2.6.131.146 (talk) 13:06, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Checking for copyright problems in hidden edits

Dear editors: This stale draft: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Carbohydrate chemistry is extensive and has a number of references as compared to Carbohydrate chemistry. I had planned to ask at WP:Wikiproject Chemistry about about the appropriateness of its content, but there is something that should be checked first. The mainspace article has a section of its edit history hidden because of copyright violations. I want to make sure that the draft version isn't a recreation of those problems. I tried a couple of Google searches on text without result, but the copied document may have been offline. Can someone with access check this for me?

If Wikiproject Chemistry reports it acceptable, would it be acceptable to Afd the mainspace article (which still appears to have copyvios from its one source and is mainly one big "See also"), and move the draft into its place, or would the old article need to be kept in any case for its attributions and redirected? —Anne Delong (talk) 14:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Anne. As far as the copyright issue goes, you're fine; the AFC contains nothing that's remotely similar to the hidden deleted content. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:25, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh, and on the issue of replacing the existing article - if the replacement is approved, then a history merge would probably be the most appropriate course of action. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:26, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I will post at Wikiproject Chemistry. —Anne Delong (talk) 20:28, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Well, apparently they weren't impressed, as the sources were mostly not reliable, so I will not be merging at this time. Thanks anyway for your help.—Anne Delong (talk) 21:42, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Morecambe Bay in Lancashire England

Hello, I have noticed that Morecambe Bay listing does not mention Sailing it is one of the primary sports on Morecambe Bay, sailing out of Morecambe Bay Yacht Club (Morecambe)supporting water sports on the Bay.The Nobby (sailing boat)or Morecambe Bay Shrimper was widely used for fishing on the Bay — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.19.127.193 (talk) 14:39, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

request edit

Valentina Sanchez, Miss New Jersey Teen USA 2014, was born in California-USA. She was not born in Venezuela, as your article states. Please correct your error as soon as possible. She is getting negative responses based on the wrong data your article provided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.54.0.34 (talk) 14:41, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I have removed the unsourced Venezuela claim from Miss Teen USA 2014. I guess that's the article you refer to. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Population Services International

Hi, The list for board of directors for Population Services International (Population Services International) is out of date. The updated list can be found here: http://www.psi.org/about-psi/board Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.200.96.194 (talk • contribs) 14:45, 22 January 2014‎ (UTC)

VOGENAUER Ernst Vogenauer

Dear Sir or Madam Sources : Attestation : In the Wikipedia page about my great oncle the artist Ernst Rudolf Vogenauer (1897-1972) all the informations about his "early life" and "career" are quite right. These informations and CV, that I wrote myself for wikipedia, come directly from our private family archives (state certificates and chronicle of the Vogenauer family by my other great oncle Gottfried Vogenauer written in 1955*, and are not extracted not from a german paper or article. As I am a french lady and also an old lady, I do not know very well how to provide informations for Wikipedia, so I would like you to help me, to confirm these informations about early life and career of my great oncle in the page.

With a lot of thanks and my best wishes 2014. Sincerely yours

E.Caubet-Bachem (born Erika Bachem, great niece of Ernst Rudolf Vogenauer Bayonne in France -2014 January 22th.

NB : * Gottfried Vogenauer was a brother of my great oncle Ernst Rudolf Vogenauer and of my grand-ma Babette Vogenauer spouse Bachem, and of Andreas Vogenauer, all children of the Vogenauer-Haenni family

Erika64FR (talk) 14:59, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

This says 1897-1969 but the Wikipedia article reads 1897-1972. Unless the information is independently source in the article, it probably should be removed. -- Jreferee (talk) 15:33, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Vogenauer taught at the Weissensee East Berlin Academy,[1] which may be the Weissensee Academy of Arts,[2] or Weissensee Art Academy, but I'm not sure which Wikipedia article it is related to. -- Jreferee (talk) 15:40, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Numbered list in two columns

I have a numbered list on my user page HERE. I'd like to put it in two columns, without re-starting numbering at the top of the second column. Is there a way to do that? (Feel free to do it yourself if you'd like -- sometimes that's the easiest way.) Lou Sander (talk) 15:09, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Template:Columns-list is your boy for that particular problem. I've done it for you. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:21, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

1911 revolutionary women's army in China

Though we have an article on Xinhai Revolution, I can find nothing about the revolutionary women's army. I recently uploaded File:An episode in the revolutionary war in China, 1911 - the revolutionary women's army attacks Nanking. Wellcome V0047151.jpg. Any suggestions as to which article might be relevant to make use of this historic illustration? --Fæ (talk) 15:24, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Reference Desk

Which category would a question about how many cigarettes were smoked per day in 2008 go under?--78.156.109.166 (talk) 15:30, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Try the Maths reference desk since this is statistical information being requested. Good luck ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 16:17, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Updating Company Logo

Hello -

I am looking to update the company logo on the Rawlings (company) wikipedia page and cannot determine how to update the logo on that page. Could anyone assist me with this? When we go to the edit screen the only option for updating is the Source for the logo which we have updated but now we need to update the actual logo.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by A deckis (talk • contribs) 16:03, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Please go to WP:FFU and make request that the file be uploaded.--ukexpat (talk) 16:44, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

saving locations on google maps

i use the historic register to locate historic structures for me to visit in different states. i can hit the longitude and latitude cordinates and it will give me the options. i choose google maps and it will bring up the map but i cant save the site. there is no star to light up. if there is and address i can copy it and put it in google maps and the star is available to click on and save. can you tell me how i can do it directly from the register and star the location? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.10.205.226 (talk) 16:08, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:51, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Help with Wikitables

Is there some sort of Help Desk or Instructions Page for creating Wikitables? Specifically, I have the following questions, the answers to which I cannot seem to find. What is the "command" or "code" that allows the creator to control/set the width of the columns in a table? Similarly, what is the "command" or "code" that allows the creator to control/set the height of the rows in a table? Thanks! Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:44, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Help:Table?--ukexpat (talk) 16:52, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I have been playing around with this for quite a while, and I simply can't seem to figure it out. Can someone please tell me the exact command that I need to type in to make every row in the table be the same height? I'd like all the rows (not just some) to be of uniform height. By default (without me specifying a height), each row has a different height (based on the amount of text within that row). Therefore, some rows are taller, some are shorter, and the table does not have a "uniform" look. Thanks so much. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 17:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I am re-posting (moving) this question to Help talk:Table#Help with Wikitables. If anyone has any suggestions to help me, please reply at that Talk page. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:03, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Raun Larose

Raun Larose — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.103.1.122 (talk • contribs)

With what exactly? Samwalton9 (talk) 16:49, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Earshot : request edit : History : Formation and Letting Go

Extended critique of Earshot article

Hello, As Wikipedia strives to be an accurate source of truth and information, a modern day encyclopedia, its success and credibility depends on the veracity of its content. Many people have drawn my attention to the lies and inaccuracies that are written all over the biography of the rock band called "Earshot". Indeed, after reading the biography of "Earshot", I just can't help contacting your organization in sheer respect of Wikipedia and its credibility as well as in respect of the truth and of the people who created the history of Earshot. Earshot's biography in Wikipedia (History : Formation & Letting Go) totally obliterates the truth and states facts that are straight up lies. Those inaccuracies jeopardize the whole concept of encyclopedia that Wikipedia strives to represent. The biography was obviously dictated by major labels at a time where it was easy to make the crowds believe what was politically correct but it is unfortunately very far from the truth... So here is the real story (made of accurate facts and the truth) of how Earshot started. Bear in mind that I have all the necessary proofs (witnesses, pictures, videos, recordings...) to corroborate this accurate description. Here it is : During the Summer of 1998, long time friends Chris Lennon (guitar), Todd Whyatt (drums) and Guy Couturier (bass) decide to start a brand new band in Hollywood California. Before that Chris Lennon used to play guitar for "Justifiable Homicide", Todd Whyatt used to play drums for "I Found God" and Guy Couturier used to play bass for "Transultra" (all those bands were from Hollywood California). Their jams are very productive (a few months later they already have written a few songs) and in November 1998, looking for a singer, they put an ad in "Music Connection" magazine. Wil Martin is among the first batch of singers they audition but the band decides to keep on checking more singers and too keep on writing more material. In January 1999 they record their 1st demo with Daniel Overberger (Stress). "Get Away" and "My Time" are already part of this 4 song demo (without the vocals obviously). The band keeps on auditioning singers and on writing more music. The song "Wake Up" is written during that time and is known among the band as the"tribal" song. "Leave Me Alone" is also written during that period and despite the fact that it was among the band's favorite as well as many A&Rs favorite, that song unfortunately never made it on the debut album "Letting Go". In March of 1999, after having auditioned more than a hundred singers, the band decides to call back Wil Martin and to give him a second trial. He had been working on the vocals of "My Time" but it is his performance on "Wake Up" that convinces Todd Whyatt and Guy Couturier to bring him in the band as the lead vocalist. Chris Lennon is not happy about the decision his bandmates made and he decides to leave the band. Then starts the quest of a guitar player to replace Chris Lennon. Many guitar player auditions follow but no one feels right. The band gets antsy to play live and decides to use an friend (Scott Kohler) to fill in the guitar player position. They play their 1st show at the Dragonfly in Hollywood during the Summer of 1999. A few months later, in November 1999, thanks to their performances at the "Pretty Ugly Club" (taking place at the Dragonfly) and to their friendship with Seth from "Crazy Town", Earshot manages to create a buzz among the industry: their concerts are packed with the majority of the A&Rs of Los Angeles. Michael Beinhorn notices them during one of their shows at the "Dragonfly" and decides to record them in his studio. So under the umbrella of Atlantic Records, Earshot records a 3 song demo ("Headstrong", "Leave me alone", "My Time") with Michael Beinhorn in November 1999. Earshot celebrates the new year 2000 being very excited about the new demo and the potential record deal with Atlantic Records. Unfortunately the deal is poorly negotiated by their manager (Bobby Carlton) and things fall thru at the last minute. So Earshot keeps on showcasing for almost all the labels in town (check the link of their showcase at the Whisky for Fred Durst in March 2000 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNG9_6ixukw&feature=share&list=UUv9s8nSbQkbcAhReVb4evhQ&index=1) but the labels keep on pointing the finger at their weak and inexperienced guitar player (Scott Kohler). So in June 2000 Earshot showcases for Reprise/Warner (David Kahne and Matt Eberle) with an additional guitar player and finally gets the long awaited record deal. Unfortunately the long series of showcases had taken its toll on the band and things had gotten sour during that process between singer Wil Martin and drummer Todd Whyatt : founding member Todd Whyatt is fired the day after the successful showcase... With a brand new record deal under the belt, Earshot is on the look for a new drummer. The band tries out Bobby Alt, Possum Hill (check the link of their performance at the Dragonfly in August 2000 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4-09YZafL0&feature=share&list=UUv9s8nSbQkbcAhReVb4evhQ&index=4) but finally settles for Dieter Hartmann in September 2000. Finally a complete band, Earshot spends the following 5 months at "Cole Rehearsals" to finish the writing/pre-production of their LP. In April 2001 Earshot finally enters the Jim Henson studios in Hollywood. Josh Freese (drums), Troy Van Leeuwen (guitars) and Danny Lohner (guitars) are used to track all the drums and guitars on the LP while bandmates Scott Kohler and Dieter Hartmann are pushed aside during that phase of the recording. Guy Couturier is actually the only band member who records his instrument (bass) at Jim Henson's. After the recording of "Letting Go" is completed Mike Callahan joins the band as rhythm guitar player. In November 2001 Earshot embarks on their 1st US Tour, opening up for Hoobastank throughout the States during a month. After the Christmas brake, in January 2002, last remaining founding member, main songwriter and bassist Guy Couturier is fired because of an interview he made during the previous Tour. His description to a journalist of the recording process of "Letting Go" (heavy use of studio musicians instead of band members for the recording, total absence of collaboration between the band and the producer) is deemed as "politically incorrect" and Guy Couturier is fired on the spot for being a "loose canon" and speaking out the truth... So Guy Couturier got replaced by Johnny Sprague on bass and Earshot kept going as if the 3 founding members (Chris Lennon, Todd Whyatt and Guy Couturier) never even existed... Voila, here is the story I wanted to tell you for the sake of truth, the story of the origin and beginnings of Earshot, the story that never got told by the major labels because it would have made them look bad... It is the true story though and it hurts me to read all the lies in Wikipedia. Do what you want with it, double check all the facts and info if you want, ask me any additional questions if you need, I have said my peace, I trust you to be truthful in your encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iexpandwhileyousellout (talk • contribs) 17:31, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I see that you have also reported these errors in the talk page of the Earshot article. That is the best place to report them. This is not. Maproom (talk) 18:05, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Mediumship. The content on this page is incorrect, as an international tutor on this subject this is a major issue!

Under the heading of Clairalience, purporting to be the correct term used as a sense of smell from the Spirit world, when in actual fact the sense of smell from the spirit world is called Clairolfactus, this is the Latin wording and was put together using Clair meaning Clear, and olfactus in the sensory perception in the seance of smell. As I tutor for the top mediumship organisations in the world I have put some research into what these words are and where the were coined, and the long and short of it is each word is Latin and Greek is exactly what is says it is if you translate it into English.

• Clairvoyance: Clear vision
• Clairaudience: Clear Hearing
• Clairsentience: Clear Feeling.
• These are the three main senses . But a more indept look at breaking them down even more gives us a list of many more.
• Clairasension: Clear clear communication from higher forces like angelic realms.
• Claircognizance: Clear cognat, knowing without having leared this.
• Clairempathic: Clear Empathy, feeling the empathic feelings of the person making the communication
• Clairgraphia: Clear writing, as I. The written word, to see the word written in your mind.
• Clairgustatorus: Clear taste.
• Clairkinesthetic: Clear bodily movement.
• Clairolfactus: Clear Smell
• Clairsomatic: Clear affecting the body
• Clairtackilus: Clear skin sensation
• Clairtangency: Clear tangible, as in feeling a tangible object.

These words are all built on the clear sensening and parts of the human anatomy or the sensory system. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandrabellmac (talk • contribs) 17:31, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

You could, frankly, be anyone, so I'm afraid your claims are not going to be incorporated into this encyclopedia just because you say so. Do any of these words appear in any reliable dictionary? I'm not even sure some of the words in your definitions - especially 'cognat' - are widely understood terms either. AlexTiefling (talk) 17:38, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Problem with Rolfing page

Hi. Once again the Rolfing page contains a large amount of false information in simply the definition of what it is (I am not trying to comment on any controversy about the work itself). I have gone in and fixed it to make it more accurate, but those fixes have been overturned back to the inaccurate information again. Since I get phone calls that ask me why wikipedia is so incorrect, what can I do to make sure that the definition and history (which is grounded in fact) is accurate and to keep people from destroying the correct information?

For example - Rolfing is a trademarked, propriety form of structural integration - which is its own modality, like chiropractic and acupuncture. It is not, nor ever has been, a form of massage. This has been very confusing for people in the past, so I think it is important that wikipedia be correct in describing Rolfing as a form of structural integration. It was the first form of it, and was called Rolfing later as a nickname based on the name of the creater, Dr. Ida P. Rolf.

Yesterday, I fixed three instances of called Rolfing a form of massage, but today all that text is back. That is incorrect and confusing, so why doesn't wikipedia want to be accurate? The only things SI and massage have in common is that there is a table, and the practitioners work with their hands. Everything else is different.

What is the best way to make sure that info is accurate on wikipedia, and not a battle of egos? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbwinter2 (talk • contribs) 17:58, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

This is a content issue, so please use the article's talk/discussion page to discuss changes to the article.--ukexpat (talk) 19:26, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Also see WP:BRD. If you have made an edit and someone has reverted it, the next step is to to engage with them and seek consensus, via their talk page or the talk page of the article. If that is unsuccessful, there are various routes for dispute resolution. I see you are familiar with the talk page process from previous content discussions at the same article, and I note you have been open about your conflict of interest with regard to the subject matter. - Karenjc (talk) 19:32, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

confirmed account

Hi,

I would like to edit a webpage from wikipedia and upload a specific figure in this webpage. Could I do this with my current account status?

Best regards, Katerina — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktsakiri (talk • contribs) 18:20, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

You need to be autoconfirmed in order to upload images to the English Wikipedia. You are apparently are not. However you can upload images to Wikimedia Commons. Ruslik_Zero 18:57, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

But note that you cannot upload any old image to Commons - it has to be freely licensed, see commons:Commons:Licensing.--ukexpat (talk) 19:23, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Removing redirection to publish an article

Hi, I have drafted an article on Terji Skibenaes, it is in my sandbox, and I would like to publish it (and I am ready and able to do so). The thing is that the current link "Terji Skibenæs" is a redirection and leads to the page of Týr (band), and so I cannot publish the article with this title. How could I edit this redirection so I can publish the page on this musician? Thank you very much in advance for your answer, Kind regards, Nath — Preceding unsigned comment added by NathAhti (talk • contribs) 18:46, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

If you look at the history of the redirect you will find that it was redirected because Terji Skibenaes was then a non-notable person. Has anything changed since 2009? Ruslik_Zero 18:52, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

You can make a technical request at WP:RM. But do consider the notability issue first. DES ^(talk) 18:59, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Yes things have changes since 2009, and now an article would be appropriate. So I make a request, following the instructions, in the Talk page of my sandbox, right? I'm not sure how to proceed, as my article is not published yet.. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by NathAhti (talk • contribs) 19:08, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

You have not included any citations in User:NathAhti/sandbox to establish the WP:notability of Terji Skibenaes. Does he pass WP:MUSIC? Can you provide links or publication information to where he has been discussed in some depth in reliable sources that are independent of him, not press releases, not publisher's blurbs, not fan sites, not blogs, and not his own site or facebook page. If you can, i will move your draft into mainspace. DES ^(talk) 19:18, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi NathAhti. The article in your sandbox has no inline citations at all, and nothing to assert how the subject meets WP:BAND, the notability criteria for musicians. If the article went live now, I doubt it would take long before someone nominated it for speedy deletion. - Karenjc (talk) 19:20, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I updated the article, please let me know if you find it acceptable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NathAhti (talk • contribs) 19:40, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

See my comments at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Terji Skibenæs. DES ^(talk) 23:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

image viewing

I have an issue when using the Android App on a Samsung S3 where no embedded images maximise when clicked. This applies to all articles and all image types, all I see is the file name.

For example - on the East India Company page I would like to zoom the map titled Colonial India. Clicking gives me the file name and no image.

Is this a known problem or just for me?

18:58, 22 January 2014 (UTC)94.30.78.34 (talk) 18:58, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

If nobody here knows, you might have better luck here: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. ~:71.20.250.51 (talk) 02:53, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I see it too, on an HTC One. I think WP:VPT might be a better place to bring it up. --ColinFine (talk) 15:48, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Saving an article in the Article Wizard

Hello. I have just finished my article in the Article Wizard. I have created this article before, believed it to be saved and upon logging back found it to be gone. I want to be sure it's saved and submitted before I log out. How do I submit the article for review from the Article Wizard?

Thank you! Nikrs (talk) 22:48, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Nikrs, you can go ahead and save the page in the same way you saved this post, that's fine. Samwalton9 (talk) 23:12, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

For good measure though, select all and copy before you save so that if the save fails, you will still retain the work (or you might even paste it into a text document on your computer).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:25, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

And you can click "Contributions" at top of any page to see your saved edits (if they are later deleted by an administrator then they are not shown). PrimeHunter (talk) 02:38, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Article now is at Zheng Cao. -- Jreferee (talk) 02:41, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

January 23

Completely Appalled by your Profile

I just finished reading the page of my client at his behest and I am completely appalled, though I have read other write-ups in a variety of pages you have. I have never seen such a personal hack job in my life.

By no means is he an angel but this hack job seems another display of Chuck's ability to manipulate public writings. So much of this is untrue that forfeitures are so way off base, did you know the Feds gave him $500k on a property as they could not prove it was from illegally gained monies.

There is quite a bit of misinformation and it needs to be changed these things are not the things you mistakenly say I have no idea who this Japanese man is but he is no authority on this at all. If you are going to tell it, pls do it correctly. I can corroborate everything for you.

I have been of service to numerous high level execs of the music industry and they rely on me to make things right. And this profile is far from right. Though it is a juicy read, its not true. There seemed to be a failure to report the jury tampering that occurred and was reported by another juror on his case. There seemed to be no mention that the proffer agreement had things added to it he never said and this was raised by Shargel to the Judge. There seemed to be no mention that Shargel and the Judge had plenty of history as they used to fight each other when the Judge was the Prosecutor against John Gotti ans Shargel was his lawyer. That some of the laws violated during this case were also created by these two during the Gotti Years. There were faces they affiliated to this case that was on their board in the courtroom that had no charges against them. In the past they have tried to hang him out to dry, the difference this time was that they offered everyone charged a chance to go him if he was pegged the kingpin. A well know individual in jail in Florida was the one to expose this as they offered to drop his time down. And that person said as appealing as it is, he has no interest. I see no mention of the fact of the case he is to be charged in next, had the identical crime happen while he is in jail on Jan. 3, 2014. An associate of 50 Cents, who is a part of G-Unit was shot t death after being out of jail 2 weeks. Hmmm that sounds familiar. Like what they are going to charge him with. The fact that the Feds, asked what he could tell them about Puffy, Al Sharpton and Wyclef. Well he told them that Wyclef killed Tupac and they ran with it and then came back quite angry when they realized he made a fool of them.

There is no mention of his deeds in Haiti, his numerous awards for tv show award productions, you have some of the wrong artists mentioned, etc. And others left out. I need to communicate with someone so that this can read like the truth. I have never seen such a hack job done on someone that was not a serial murderer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.205.59 (talk) 04:00, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Uh... who the bloody hell is your client???? --Orange Mike | Talk 04:04, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

the client would appear to be Jimmy Henchman. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:45, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

and "Chuck" to be Chuck Philips. Maproom (talk) 10:29, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

There is a talk page tab on the article, which is where you should discuss this. You might consider reading WP:COI before adding to the article yourself. Any such additions should be sourced. Britmax (talk) 05:17, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Incorrect year

The album "Take A Ride" by Jayo Felony was actually released in May 30, 1995 not May 30, 1994 as listed on your site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.61.238 (talk) 06:45, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

 Done AllMusic agrees with you, so I have changed the date accordingly. Arjayay (talk) 09:05, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Lost username and password

I have a friend who had a username and password several years ago. He made a few edits, then left. He's back, and wants to start editing again. Is there any way for him to retrieve his old username and password? If he happens to remember his username, is there any way for him to retrieve his password? Lou Sander (talk) 08:51, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Provided they set an e-mail address, and they can still receive mail sent to that address, a new password can be e-mailed, assuming they can remember their user-name. Try to log on with the username and select the "e-mail new password" option on the log-in screen. If they did not set an e-mail address, or no longer have access to it, then unfortunately there is nothing we can do. Arjayay (talk) 09:00, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Following on from the above answer, if they can't remember the user name but they can remember which article(s) they edited (& roughly when), the article history might help to remind them of the user name. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:33, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Harvard ref not working

So what's wrong here? I'm not seeing the problem, but the script is and so I need someone with better wibbly wobbly codey-wodey abilities than I have.

• {{cite book|last1=Stern|first1=E.|last2=Lewinson-Gliboa|first2=A.|last3=Aviram|first3=J.|title=The New Encyclopedia of Archaeological Excavations in the Holy Land|year=1993|authorlink=Ephraim Stern|publisher=Israel Exploration Society & Carta, Simon and Schuster|location=Jerusalem|isbn=0-13-276312-5|ref=harv}

{{sfnp|Stern|Lewinson-Gilboa|Aviram|1993|pp=839–841}

(last bracket removed to display code. I forgot how you put stuff without having the code fire) Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 22 Shevat 5774 09:55, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Is he "Gliboa" or "Gilboa" -- John of Reading (talk) 10:06, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Ah ha! Thanks! For some odd reason my i's were losing the break between the body and dot, but here I can see them just fine. Thank you again!Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 22 Shevat 5774 10:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

@Flinders Petrie: You can make these errors show up very clearly if you install User:Gadget850/HarvErrors.js, as in my common.js. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:16, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

 Comment You can include code without making it fire by enclosing it in <nowiki></nowiki> tags. --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 19:05, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I had HarvErrors on, but it didn't show the specific issue which would need foreknowledge of the proper spelling and a few other things. It just says x doesn't like to anything.

Ah, I think I did <noshow> or some nonsense and wondered why it didn't work. Thanks!Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 22 Shevat 5774 23:59, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

G13. Abandoned Articles for creation submissions

Can someone please tell me where the discussions took place to create that fairly-new CSD criteria? I can't find it. Thanks. 88.104.27.18 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:28, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

This and this appear to be the main discussions, as well as various other talk page messages around that time. Samwalton9 (talk) 11:37, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Perfect, thx. 88.104.27.18 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:48, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

unable to find the link

the link for changing the languages is not found on my account page(sandbox) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Banda Tejaswini (talk • contribs) 12:53, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

The ULS is now opt-in: Preferences → User profile → Enable the Universal Language Selector. --  Gadget850 ^talk 13:29, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Square brackets in URLs

Dear editors: From time to time I come across a situation in which a reference will not display properly because the URL contains square brackets. I've been looking up the percent codes and fixing these manually, but today it occurred to me that others may have had this problem and that it may be possible to call upon a software tool that someone had developed. Is there such a thing? —Anne Delong (talk) 13:00, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

i have just recently had that same issue. dont know what to do about that-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:18, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I am sure a bot could be written to do that, or it could be semi-automated using WP:AWB.--ukexpat (talk) 14:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I think that using {{urlencode:string}} might do the trick, see m:Help:Magic words. DES ^(talk) 15:56, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

The use of urlencode has been discussed many times. It will fix the bracket issue but break slashes. Per the URI specification, the character "/" is supposed to be interpreted as a path separator while the character "%2F" is supposed to be interpreted as the ASCII character "/" and not as a path separator. Thus, many encoded links will not work, such as an arXiv link. --  Gadget850 ^talk 16:41, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Can you give me an example URL with a bracket? I might have something. --  Gadget850 ^talk 16:48, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Here is a whole bunch: http://www.fibt.com/index.php?id=526&tx_pxresults_pi1[sport]=BSW&tx_pxresults_pi1[season]=2012&tx_pxresults_pi1[event]=WC&tx_pxresults_pi1[searchmode]=2&tx_pxresults_pi1[event_id]=29900. With percent encoding: http://www.fibt.com/index.php?id=526&tx_pxresults_pi1%5Bsport%5D=BSW&tx_pxresults_pi1%5Bseason%5D=2012&tx_pxresults_pi1%5Bevent%5D=WC&tx_pxresults_pi1%5Bsearchmode%5D=2&tx_pxresults_pi1%5Bevent_id%5D=29900. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:37, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

guerillabookworm.com

Dear editors: While checking out some abandoned Afc drafts that are being deleted, I came across this article which had a copy-paste duplicate at Afc. It doesn't appear to be very encyclopedic, but a couple of the references looked like they might be book reviews, so I decided to check them out. However, when I click on the links, the web site wants me to download a piece of software (I'd rather not). Is anyone familiar with guerillabookworm.com, and is it a reliable place to find book reviews? —Anne Delong (talk) 13:54, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

the WP:RSN reliable source notice board is probably a good place to go. you can search the archives to see if is been discussed before. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:18, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Doesn't look promising: [3] . Dru of Id (talk) 15:23, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. I left a message there. This article doesn't have much in the way of reliable sources. —Anne Delong (talk) 21:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Malik Shabazz removed my article edit

Dear Sir or Maddam,

I think Malik Shabazz has stepped over the line by not leaving my article edit on the American Jews section "as is". The American Jews page includes a subsection about famous jews in finance which omits Bernie Madoff. I think that it is important to include him in this section because he was one of the most famous financiers of his generation and by linking to his article readers can see the atrocities he committed to other jews.

thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.57.24.103 (talk) 16:57, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

The article history says that your change is not supported by the source that was cited. You should discuss this on the article's talk page. See WP:BRD. RudolfRed (talk) 17:05, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

You added him to a list of German Jewish bankers but he isn't German. And he didn't even have an article before his arrest in 2008 so I doubt how famous he was. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:18, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I suspect that he had more than enough coverage to qualify as notable even before the scandal broke, whether anyone happened to write an article or not. He is surely notable now. But of course WP:BLP and WP:V apply. DES ^(talk) 17:24, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I didn't add him to a list of german jewish bankers, the subsection was jews in finance. To say he didn't have an article until 2008 means he isn't famous is a red herring. I'm pretty sure that Lorde or Lady Gaga didn't have an article until 2008 and they are both very notable. (also a red herring) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.57.24.103 (talk) 17:56, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Your edit [4] was to the list following "German Jewish bankers began to assume a major role in American finance in the 1830s when government and private borrowing to pay for canals, railroads and other internal improvements increased rapidly and significantly.". All the others in the list are German, and also much better fits to the description. Bernie Madoff is alive so when you said "he was one of the most famous financiers of his generation", I assumed "was" meant one of the most famous financiers (a stronger claim than just "famous") when he was a financier before his arrest and conviction. Lorde was 12 in 2008 so that's an odd example. If you mean Lordi then their article was created in 2004.[5] Lady Gaga was created two months before the release of her debut album in 2008. Bernard Madoff founded his firm in 1960. Category:American Jews has thousands of articles even without subcategories. Would Madoff have been important enough as a financier and not a fraudster to be mentioned in American Jews? I doubt it. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:35, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

No I meant Lorde, that was the point that it was a red herring to say that in 2008. The guy was chairman of the Nasdaq and made incredible returns through the recession, had he not been uncovered I think he would have been. Are you suggesting we start a subsection of American Jew fraudsters? If so, I'm offended.

I'm not suggesting a whole subsection for fraudsters but mentioning Madoff in a list of old German financiers is odd when he isn't German and is far more known for fraud. The following paragraph about Jews in the more recent hedge fund industry would probably be a better fit. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:01, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Since he's part of the discussion, I'm just going to ping User:Malik Shabazz and he can reply if he so chooses. Dismas|^(talk) 23:19, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. As I noted in my edit summary, the source cited doesn't mention Madoff (not surprising, since it was published in 1967). The IP editor seems to be oblivious to the sentence, let alone the paragraph, in which he added Madoff's name ("I didn't add him to a list of german jewish bankers"). Actually, that's exactly where you added him. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 01:49, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Feedback on Global surveillance disclosures (2013–present)

Someone made 23 days ago this feedback: It is never clear how new revelations come to light. Does Snowden feed these news organizations regularly with new documents or are they releasing these documents from a stockpile? I responded to it by adding this content and this source. Is there any to give this reader that his question has been answered i.e. a way to show at the feedback post site that the issue is resolved? --P3Y229 (talk • contribs) 17:48, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

news tips

Dear Complaints about law enforcementThank you so much! Kind regards Je Hwa Jin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.241.49.210 (talk) 19:02, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. RudolfRed (talk) 19:21, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Requested images near me?

Helloooo Help Desk!

Many moons ago, I encountered a tool (or a page, or a device.... it was many moons ago) where I could plug in a geographic location, and it would provide a list of all articles with Template:Image requested located within X distance of the specified location (I assume by comparing the geographic coordinates in the article).

Does this tool still exist, and if so, where can I find it? If not, is there some other way to determine articles needing images that are Close To Me(tm)? Thanks in advance. -- saberwyn 19:36, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Is this the tool you have in mind? Deor (talk) 20:26, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Looks to be it. Thanks muchly! -- saberwyn 07:39, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Edit username

Is it possible?--78.156.109.166 (talk) 20:24, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, see changing username for more information. --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 20:41, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

I can't log in.--78.156.109.166 (talk) 09:54, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

How come some templates don't show up on my phone?

When looking at the mobile version of Wikipedia, certain templates including {{ElectionsAL}}, {{ElectionsAZ}}, etc. don't seem to show up. See for example the mobile version of Alabama gubernatorial election, 2014 vs. the ordinary version. Why is this? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 21:40, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

May be due to it being in the navbox table class. - Purplewowies (talk) 22:00, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, that makes sense since the same seems to apply to navboxes at the bottom, which I hadn't noticed. Why though? Was there a discussion where this was decided? – Arms & Hearts (talk) 01:19, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

I tried looking for discussion and couldn't find any. - Purplewowies (talk) 01:23, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

See Bugzilla:53437. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:17, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Need help with changing the Page Title and URL for company page

Hi there,

I need some help with revising our company’s Wikipedia page. I have updated the basic information but need assistance with changing the Page Title and the url of the page.

Current Title and URL: Cloud9 Analytics Cloud9 Analytics

We need to change it to: C9 Inc. and we would like the url to be C9 Inc.

Please advise, thank you! Rachel — Preceding unsigned comment added by C9 Inc. (talk • contribs) 22:27, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Firstly, read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest (and Wikipedia:Username policy - we do not permit usernames which imply representation of a group). 'Your company' does not have a Wikipedia page. 'Our encyclopaedia' appears to however - though as it stands it is entirely unacceptable as encyclopaedic content. We aren't here to provide free advertising space, and the first issue that needs to be addressed is that the article provides no evidence whatsoever that the company meets the relevant Wikipedia notability guidelines - this needs to be demonstrated by citing third-party published reliable sources. When this issue is dealt with (assuming it can be), and the article is rewritten as neutral encyclopaedic content, we can sort out problems with titles and logos. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:37, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Stubified pending rewrite from WP:NPOV with reliable sources. DES ^(talk) 23:50, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

January 24

Name Change On an Article

When you google New Hope Christian College, under the title there is a drop down menu option that says Eugene Bible College, and it's based off of the Wikipedia page. I was curious if we can get that changed to New Hope Christian College rather than Eugene Bible College — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickalvis (talk • contribs) 02:52, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

It's to the right and not in a drop down menu for me, but maybe you have a mobile device with another layout. Our article is already called New Hope Christian College since June 2010 [6] so I don't think Google got "Eugene Bible College" from us. We don't control the Google box and only part of it is taken from us. Here is our standard reply for posts about such Google boxes:

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:08, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Correction on publisher & ISBN for "Bernard Peiffer"

Compendium of Over 2000 Jazz Pianists by Arnie Fox-ISBN-978-1-425-1848-8 Trafford Publishing Please correct under reference 3 of Bernard Peiffer (Speck & ISBN incorrect) Thank you for your work, Arnie Fox-author of "Compendium of Over 2000 Jazz Pianists — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.162.249.25 (talk) 03:19, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I have swapped data for two book references which got mixed up.[7] The year and page number was also wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:41, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Category: Officers of the New Zealand Order of Merit

Dear Wikipedia I note that you haven't included me in the list of Officers of the New Zealand Order of merit. I hope you will remedy this matter as I gained this honour in the Queen's Birthday Honours' List 2006. Sincerely Alistair (aka 07:22, 24 January 2014 (UTC)07:22, 24 January 2014 (UTC)~~Alistair Ptersonallister)Paterson ONZM. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.252.253.219 (talk)

The Category "Officers of the New Zealand Order of Merit" does not attempt to list all officers of the NZoM. It is a list of Wikipedia articles about holders of the office. Maproom (talk) 10:45, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) By definition Category:Officers of the New Zealand Order of Merit is an automatically complied list of the 125 holders who already have the category shown at the bottom of their articles. Names cannot manually be added to this list, they must be category links from an existing article on that individual. As we do not have an article on Alistair Paterson (hence the red-link) the name cannot appear on the category list.
I note in this search that the name Alistair Paterson only occurs 6 times in Wikipedia, and clearly refers to more than one person - I assume you are a poet?
Wikipedia has specific definitions of notability, for people this is at Wikipedia:Notability (people) If, having read this, you feel you are notable enough to merit an article, please do not write it yourself (please see Wikipedia:Autobiography), but request it at Wikipedia:Requested articles. Please understand that, other than requesting the removal of incorrect information, you will have no say in what is said in the article about you, which will not be "your" article, and which may include criticism of you and/or your work, provided that criticism is from a reliable source. - Thanks - Arjayay (talk) 10:52, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Gamma Phi Gamma

I believe that it Would be appropriate to contact the fraternity and get accurate information on it's founding and what they stand for among other things so that there isn't a single page saying that one of their pledges lost a nut and that's all. It not only reflects poorly on the fraternity and what they believe, but also on Wilmington College as a whole — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gamma Phi Gamma1212 (talk • contribs) 07:24, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia only uses information that is confirmed by reliable published sources. It does not accept what organisations say about themselves. If an organisation is notable only for an incident that reflects badly on it, so be it. However the Gamma Phi Gamma article probably ought to be deleted anyway. Maproom (talk) 09:03, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Basically, the only information on the local fraternity chapter is obituaries noting things like 'graduated from Wilmington College, where he was a member of Gamma Phi Gamma' and the news articles covering the Pledge Loses Testicle In Frat Hazing Ritual At Wilmington College one event. The article started by Ktr101 likely will be deleted/redirected per WP:BLP1E. The current place for such information would be articles such as Wilmington College (Ohio) or Hazing in Greek letter organizations if it could be added in a way that maintains the context of the topic. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:34, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Being the oldest local fraternity in America certainly is more than enough for notability, and I am more than willing to expand it, so I will try to do so later today. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 16:32, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

I would say if their claim to be the oldest surviving is true, then it would count for notability, but verifying that claim could be difficult. And after a few minutes googling for them ("gamma phi gamma" "wilmington college" -testicle -hazing 1907), not much shows up.Naraht (talk) 19:15, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Verifying that statement might well require library rather than online research. DES ^(talk) 20:02, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

We could always contact the college for independent verification, although I am sure that there is an organization that would also keep track of this information somewhere, such as a local fraternity version of Panhell. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:34, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Can we measure TOR usage?

At User talk:Jimbo Wales#Proposal: Create a Wikipedia-only read-only TOR exit node I received two responses, only one of which can be true: "no one would use it" and "it would require considerable bandwidth".

Is it possible to figure out what percentage of Wikipedia' traffic is used by TOR users? --Guy Macon (talk) 09:18, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps an editor who maintains User:TorNodeBot or one of the pages at Category:Wikipedia statistics may be able to generate stats for Wikipedia Tor (anonymity network) traffic. I looked through the What Links Here links for Tor (anonymity network) and found Low-Cost Traffic Analysis of Tor in Traffic analysis article as well as

which may or may not help you find an answer to your question. -- Jreferee (talk) 14:13, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Images of book covers

I've created several book articles lately, and I'd like to use some images in them. I seem to remember seeing something about the usability of photos or scans of book covers -- maybe it is OK to use them if certain procedures are followed, or maybe it's something else. Whatever it is, I can't find it right now. Can somebody help? Lou Sander (talk) 14:35, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

WP:Fair use is probably where you can find specifics; but in general, "fair use" can be claimed for an article which is specifically about the subject that the image depicts. —Each instance for the fair use of a copyrighted image must be independantly specified. An example from personal exerience: A cover from a Spider-Man comic book can be used for the article about Spider-Man (comics), but not in Cultural depictions of spiders. This is the template to use for book covers: Template:Non-free book cover — see also: Template:Book rationale. Another thing to consider: the images must be relatively low-rez (so that they can't be used to make plausible counterfeits).

WP:Public domain details information for books where 'fair use' does not apply; typically old books, or where the copyrights are waived.

~I hope this helps, ~E:71.20.250.51 (talk) 18:13, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Also note that Wikipedia's non-free content criteria are more stringent than the "fair use" exceptions to US copyright law.--ukexpat (talk) 20:38, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Download into Excel

> Can I download this list: > List of wars by death toll, into Excel? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.90.110.66 (talk) 17:31, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes you can. If you wish to reuse the content please take note of the rules posted at the foot of the page: "Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License; additional terms may apply. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy." If you would like information on how to import the list into Excel, you might like to use the "text to columns" import wizard (it was called something else in versions before 2010) to separate the death toll from the name of the war and the date; or dump it into a text editor for some pre-processing to make columns before importing it into Excel. Astronaut (talk) 17:46, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

My talk page

May I remove the disruptive text on it?--78.156.109.166 (talk) 20:27, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Which text are you referring to? I don't see anything obviously disruptive on your talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 20:34, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Looked at the closed discussion?--78.156.109.166 (talk) 10:03, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

It says on that talk page that that IP "belongs to EnergiMidt, an Internet service provider, through which multiple users may connect to the Internet via proxy" it is not therefore actually "your" talk page, as other editors can and will use it. Assuming you are not responsible for all the repeated vandalism, leading the the account being blocked on several occasions, your best option is to create an account. Arjayay (talk) 12:22, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I am. No one has used it since I began.--78.156.109.166 (talk) 10:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Reference Desk

Where do I put a question about the Donald Duck comics? And how do solve this: when 2 sections on this here page are the same names, how do I go to the 2nd section under the same name by typing it in the url? You know, by putting # directly after the url and typing the section you need to view and pressing enter and then you jump directly to that section you typed in the url, but then i just go to the 1st section out of the 2 same-named sections?--78.156.109.166 (talk) 20:28, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

If your comics question is not about Wikipedia then you can ask at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment. You can go to a second section with the same title by adding _2 at the end of the url. If there is later only one section of that name on the page then the _2 link will stop working. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:37, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Bad Wave Field Synthesis (WFS) translation to Spanish

The site http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holofon%C3%ADa shouldn't be linked as an Spanish version of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_field_synthesis . The first one is a binaural recording technique while the second one describes a sound spatialization technique based on sound field synthesis. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.56.151.39 (talk) 20:45, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

the connection in the sidebar is made via WP:WIKIDATA and any errors will need to be corrected there. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 21:20, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

January 25

Disambiguation page

Hi there. I don't have much experience with disambiguation pages and I'm hoping you can help. I created the article "three-way bridge", and in the article I discussed both "T-bridges" and "Y-Bridges". I also noticed a disambiguation page called "Y-Bridge". I'd like to let anyone who arrives at the "Y-Bridge" disambiguation page know about the article I created, because that may be what they're looking for. I don't think adding the article I wrote to a "see also" is the way. Should I add a hatnote? Or just leave it. Any help you can give would be appreciated. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:06, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

In this case, just add to the list on Y-Bridge with something like "Three-way bridges, often referred to as Y-Bridges". That should be fine! Samwalton9 (talk) 00:17, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

But Y-Bridges and three-way bridges are the same thing, and the two pages list similar sets of such bridges. My view is that Magnolia677's article should be kept much as it is, and that the dab page Y-Bridge should be replaced by a redirect to it. Maproom (talk) 09:14, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I thought that too when I first saw the DAB page, except there are two bridges listed on the DAB page that really aren't three-way bridges (one is just called the Y-Bridge but is just a highway). Thanks again for your excellent help. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:51, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Infobox award

If you look at the articles for the various Academy Awards (for example, Academy Award for Best Production Design), on the top right there is an infobox. This content, apparently, is placed into the article by typing {{Infobox award}}, along with its parameters. If I want to edit that infobox, where exactly do I find it? I did a bunch of searches, none successful. I am asking about how I can edit the "generic" template for this infobox (such that it impacts all articles employing that infobox). I am not asking about editing the specific content of one infobox in one specific article. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:15, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Joseph. If you look at the documentation page for Template:Infobox award, you can see all the possible fields available in that infobox. In the Academy Award for Best Production Design article, for example, five fields are filled out and you could add more by adding something like | sponsor = Some company within the curly brackets :) Samwalton9 (talk) 00:20, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi. We had an edit conflict, while I was revising my question to clarify what I was asking. My question was ambiguous at first. Please help me with my revised question. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:26, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Ahh ok. If you wanted to do that you would edit the template directly. This is not advisable, however, unless you are experienced with template editing as it's easy to mess up many articles in one edit! If you think a change needs making the best idea would be to post on the template's talk page suggesting the change and explaining why. Samwalton9 (talk) 00:34, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

OK, thanks. For more specific information about this issue, you can see this page: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#Infobox for Academy Awards. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 00:40, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Referencing errors on File:MalikJ.jpg

Reference help requested. please remove error in the referencing. I am not getting how to do. Thanks, Whitepearl1 (talk) 06:31, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I have removed the error message, by adding "{{reflist}}" to the foot of the page. But the whole reference ought be be removed, because

1. File pages do not normally have references, they aren't like articles, designed to be read by users rather than editors.
2. References to Wikipedia are not acceptable, it does not regard itself as a reliable source.

I wonder if what you were trying to do would be achieved by adding a simple link instead. Maproom (talk) 09:24, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I now realise that what you were trying to do is to create a highly-promotional "article" about yourself in your own user page. Maproom (talk) 09:31, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) This seems to relate to your userpage, where you have created a draft biographical article which includes a copy of the image in question. Leaving aside the image question for a second, the material on your userpage has several serious problems. It looks like an article and includes category templates, which are not appropriate in the user namespace. It should either be moved to mainspace or to a user sandbox, minus the category templates and preferably marked with a {{Userspace draft}} template, otherwise it could legitimately be regarded as a WP:FAKEARTICLE and nominated for deletion. Unfortunately the draft as it stands is highly unsuitable for mainspace. It is full of promotional language and peacock terms; many of the references (bare URLs) don't work for me, and those that do don't really serve to assert this person's notability according to the Wikipedia definition. Is this draft article about you or someone you know? If so, please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY and WP:COI. I will move the draft into a user sandbox for you if you wish, because it may be possible to demonstrate this individual's notability with better references.. As for the image file, I'm trying to work out why there are copies at both Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia. You seem to have removed the "unlicensed" tag, but not yet given details of the license under which the image has been released. Unfortunately I don't have much time to sort this out at the moment; maybe another user can pitch in and help regularise the image page(s) at least, retagging if necessary until the license issue is resolved. -Karenjc (talk) 09:41, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I can now see that you have already have a duplicate of your draft at User:Whitepearl1/sandbox and you seem to be under the impression that you have submitted a draft for review (Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk#Review_of_Malik_Muhammad_Jahangir.2FWhitepearl1). You haven't, and for the reasons given above it would be rejected if you did. - Karenjc (talk) 10:29, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

narayana naagha

narayana naagha potos — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.228.29.68 (talk) 09:08, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a particular request? Is it something about photos of M. S. Narayana in connection with the film Naaga? -- Jreferee (talk) 20:34, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Reference help

Dear KarenjecUser_talk:Karenjc

I was trying to create a promotional "article/autobiography" on my user page. The autobiography is of my cousin. I am first time user here and its been over a month since I have been struggling to upload it. I truly dont know how to use terms and whatever but I tried my best.Since a layperson so might jpg files etc also got copied. Like a blank person I am making effort and infact many times wrote to wikipedia for help. Please review my article and give me a success. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitepearl1 (talk • contribs) 12:00, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Whitepearl1. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia. It does not accept any promotional material. All content must be neutral and factual in tone and supported by citations to reliable sources. You are strongly discouraged from writing about your cousin on Wikipedia because you have a conflict of interest and are likely to find it difficult to write a neutral article about him. Your draft demonstrates this, because it is full of non-neutral language: He has proved his skills ..., [He] is proud father of four kids; he has been leading as one of the top most rice exporter from Pakistan whose professional competence and outstanding skills is well acknowledged throughout the world.;For more than two decades he has been a leading industrialist and prominent businessman ... Amongst his marvelous achievements ... These are just a few examples of the unsupported claims and unencyclopaedic language in your draft - this sort of writing belongs in a marketing brochure, not Wikipedia. I understand how confusing Wikipedia can be for a new user, but at the moment your material would need to be completely rewritten before it has any chance of being published here, and you need to find some much better sources that prove your cousin's notability. My advice is: (1) put {{db-author}} at the top of your userpage to get it deleted, and focus on the version in your sandbox. If you don't do this, your userpage will almost certainly be deleted soon as a fake article. (2) Read Wikipedia:Your first article and the other guidance you have been linked to, and decide whether you are capable of writing an article about this man that complies with Wikipedia guidelines on neutrality and notability. (3) if you decide to go ahead, work on the article in your sandbox and, when you are ready, submit it using the article wizard. Ask for help again if you have trouble doing this. - Karenjc (talk) 12:37, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Reference help continued

User_talk:Karenjc

Dear Karenjc, it is not a promotional piece. It is autobiography.check Malik_Muhammad_Asif it is autobiography of other brother. When it is online then why not of any other businessman. Please guide me. I am also writing for newspapers but wikipedia is confusing for me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whitepearl1 (talk • contribs) 13:11, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Whitepearl 1. Please respond to comments in the same section, of the page, rather than starting a new section each time, to avoid confusion. Thank you for pointing out Malik Muhammad Asif. That article also suffers from promotional language and WP:PEACOCK terms, and requires cleanup and checking for neutrality. I will tag it accordingly. it is irrelevant to this discussion because WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument for including anything in Wikipedia. I repeat that the draft in your sandbox is full of promotional and non-neutral language: I have given you examples of the problem sentences above. It is also insufficiently unsupported by references to demonstrate how the subject is notable by Wikipedia standards. He may well be - but you have to say why and show how. It is by definition not an "autobiography" unless the subject wrote it himself, in which case there is an even greater conflict of interest involved. it is currently not an encyclopaedia article - it is a puff piece and unless it is improved there is no point asking for it to be moved into mainspace. "Why not of any other businessman"? Because Wikipedia is not a listings site for business people, Unless they meet the notability criteria for people, people don't warrant an article here, and even if they do, the article must conform to our rules on neutrality. I don't see what more I can tell you. -Karenjc (talk) 14:53, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I have done some cleanup on Malik Muhammad Asif. In particular I have removed the worst of the peacock terms, rewritten a section that was a word-for-word copyright violation of the source website to which it was cited, and converted the bare URLs to proper inline citations. However, it is still in need of better sources to support the claims it makes for the subject's notability, because the existing sources are almost all primary (websites of the organisations for which he works). If you look at the article's edit history you will see what has been done - it may help you understand what the problems are with your own draft. User:DESiegel has now tagged the article for maintenance! explaining what else needs to be done to make it acceptable. - Karenjc (talk) 18:13, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Adding Harvard ref citations to footnotes

I want to add the same Harvard ref citations as in the body of an article to a few footnotes in the article. Unfortunately the usual {{sfnp}} doesn't work in footnotes. What coding should I use instead? Or should I just do (See author year)?Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 24 Shevat 5774 13:20, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

you want to add footnotes to the footnotes? -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:27, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I was going to write that for humour's sake, but I was worried everything might be lost if my phone refreshed so I kept it things to a bare-minimum. Here is the work in question. See, some of the notes require citation in and of themselves as they might not be aparent without extensive foreknowledge of archaeology or related fields for the subject in question.Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 24 Shevat 5774 17:36, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

@Flinders Petrie: Have you tried this? Wikipedia:NOTES#Footnotes:_embedding_references -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:06, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I was able to jury-rig a solution! {{refn|group=note|Tel Kabri, as the name suggests is a [[tel]], a type of mound found from the [[Balkans]] to the [[Punjab region|Punjab]] that is created as a result of the destruction of mudbrick from repeated different periods of occupation of a site.<ref>[[#CITEREFCline2009|Cline (2009)]], pp. 21-22</ref>}} haha! Thanks!Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie | ^{Say Shalom!} 24 Shevat 5774 20:19, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Town of Cutler Bay

The Town of Cutler Bay was never known historically as Cutler Ridge, that is a community name, not a former municipality.The town's boundaries are comprised of Whispering Pines, Saga Bay, Bel Aire, and Lakes by the Bay. The name Cutler Bay was voted on by the electorate. They chose "Cutler" for one of the founders of the area of Off Old Cutler, Dr. Cutler, and "Bay" for the town's eastern boundary, Biscayne Bay. site check history of incorporation in 2005 Town Hall— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sparky31 (talk • contribs)

are you talking about Cutler Bay, Florida?

for a recent and fairly significant issue of a town being create/incorporated there is surprisingly little published about it, even in the local Herald, although it seems that they have redone their site in the past few years and may have done so in a way that confounds search engines. The lead of the article now reflects what i have found in a published source. If you have access to other reliable sources that can provide more detail , you can fix the article yourself or place the sources on the talk page and ask for another editor to incorporate them, or ping me on my talk page. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 17:00, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

update: it appears that @Jreferee: has better googlefu than I do and has added more detail to the history section. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:32, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Editing dead link

It is my pleasure and the broad ambition goal of Wikipedia to provide a reliable, authentic information to readers. To improve the reliability of articles in Wikipedia, a good chance is provided to those who are well versed with specific subject so that they improve the quality of article with authentic information. In the same regard i also pledged to do a little contribution for the betterment. But unfortunately i encountered with a problem. I tried to edit a dead link with a good source of information by putting a new live link,after saving the edit link it was shown. But after 1 day of the work this link was no more available on the Wikipedia page and same dead link has come up again. Now my request is how to replace these dead links with live links and after editing dead links with fresh links, why they are not displayed in the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Javeedamin (talk • contribs) 15:03, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

It really does help if you tell us which article you are talking about. I assume you are talking about Windows Task Manager? Arjayay (talk) 15:41, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Look over Wikipedia:External links and post in this thread why you think Wikipedia:External links supports adding a link to mobilegeeknaut.com in the Windows Task Manager article. -- Jreferee (talk) 17:05, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

If you replace an inline reference without changing the existing article text then the replacement should back up that text. The reference you replaced in [8] was after the sentence "Prior to Windows XP, process names longer than 15 characters in length are truncated." Your replacement [9] says nothing about that. In fact, your reference is about a process which isn't mentioned in the article at all. The author is Javeed Ahmad. Considering your user name I suspect you have a conflict of interest so please use {{request edit}} to make suggetions on the talk page instead of editing the article yourself. See also Wikipedia:External links#Advertising and conflicts of interest. Your link has been removed for the third time. Details of a single process dwm.exe not mentioned in the article appears of low relevance. It seems much more relevant to Desktop Window Manager but again, please make suggestions on the talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:11, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Martinique

This regarding an article that you put on MARTINIQUE. I am from this country and some of your informations are wrong. Serge Letchimy is not the president of this island, he is onlly the mayor of Fort de France, and also the population is not 412.000 like you said, but 392.000 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.161.10 (talk) 15:29, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I have removed Serge Letchimy from the infobox - he is the member of the National Assembly of France for Martinique. I think the problem may be that the article uses "info-box French Region" which on the edit page has a space for "leader" which on the article page appears as "President".
As for the population being 412.000 I cannot see that anywhere in the article at all. The number used, three times in the article, is 390,371, which is sourced to the French Government INSEE statistics. Arjayay (talk) 15:55, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

"President" in the infobox in [10] links to President of the Regional Council and that is indeed Serge Letchimy as the official site shows.[11] "Overseas region of France" is in the heading of the infobox so I don't see a good reason to remove the president, unless he has a minor role compared to other politicians and it would confuse readers to put him in the infobox. Regarding your 412.000 figure:

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:42, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

You are, of course, quite right with your explanation that "President" links to "President of the Regional Council". In a mainland French region, that would probably be more evident. I think the problem is that, as an Island in the Caribbean, the term "President" is easily mis-construed to mean exactly what it says, as the IP who started this thread obviously did, whilst it is the last role mentioned in our article on Serge Letchimy. Is it worth asking for the infobox to be amended, so it is clearer what it means? or do others not see this confusion? - Arjayay (talk) 17:29, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Martinique is a French overseas region and not a country. All French regions have a President and this is the title displayed in other regions. Brevity is valued in infoboxes but I have added an optional leader_title to {{Infobox French region}} (it was already in the documentation but not implemented), and used it in Martinique to display President of the Regional Council without a piped link. I don't know the common terminology of Martinique and will not object if somebody else reverts it. The IP geolocates to New York, called Martinique a country and didn't know the President, so I don't know how well-informed they are of the politics of Martinique. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:39, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks - I think that fully resolves any possible misunderstanding.
WP material is increasingly seen via other websites, and I think we need to consider the implications of this. Our content is misunderstood by juxtaposition, as with the (probable) Google problem above, whilst many re-use sites do not allow the reader to click links, to find any such explanations. - Arjayay (talk) 19:57, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

showing differences by hovering on "diff"

OK, so clicking on "diff" shows the differences between edits. Until recently, I could display the difference merely by hovering with the mouse over the word "diff", but since I tried the Beta, then uninstalled it (not happy with narrow page width) this useful hover feature has gone. How can I restore it? Hogyn Lleol (talk) 18:38, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Which operating system, browser and skin (see Preferences, Appearance) are you using? - Arjayay (talk) 19:10, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

You possibly had popups gudget enabled in the past. Ruslik_Zero 19:18, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Aha, yes it was the popups gadget setting. Many thanks. Thank you (Rather annoying that when I undid the Beta I lost a number of former settings.) Hogyn Lleol (talk) 20:31, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Easy math-mode

I write articles with lots of math formulas, and it is very cumbersome to write <math>...</math> all the time. Is there an easier way to go into math mode? For example, is it possible to use the LaTeX syntax "$...$", and have a bot replace the $ symbols with <math>...</math>? --Erel Segal (talk) 22:11, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

The editing interface varies with settings and browser but do you have a drop-down box below the edit box where you can select "Math and logic"? There you can click "<math></math>" and various math symbols. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:02, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Found it, thanks! −−Erel Segal (talk) 16:02, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Name of article needs changing

An article for an obscure actress Annette Strøyberg has the wrong name. The page calls her Annette Vadim, though her IMDb profile gives her last name as Strøyberg, as do her obituaries in The Guardian and The Sunday Times. The name of the Wiki page needs to be changed. How do you change the title of the article? Kaynow5 (talk) 04:54, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

There seem to be plenty of sources that call her Anette Vadim [12], [13], [14], [15]. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:19, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I have opened a discussion about moving the article, please join and give your rationale at Talk:Annette_Vadim#Requested_move. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 05:35, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

That is not going to do anything. Nobody has posted on that talk page since 2006. I told you, it's a very obscure page. All of the sources you listed are horror books that merely mention her in the cast list for one film where she was credited with that name. It is not the name her Wiki page should go by, considering she only used it for two years of her life. Kaynow5 (talk) 05:47, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

See WP:MOVE for more about how to "move" (i.e. change the name of) a page. And if no one else posts, then the is no opposition and you can simply do the move. DES ^(talk) 06:31, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

CREATED BOOK

Hi

I created a small book but I cant find it now

Please advise Many Thanks Sam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samjd00 (talk • contribs) 06:32, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Samjd00. According to your contribution history, you created an account at the Simple English Wikipedia some days ago and then here at en.Wikipedia yesterday, but this edit to the Help Desk is the first and only edit you have made. When you save a book, you can find it again via the "Show book" link in the menu on the left hand side or in the toolbar. Are you sure you created the book when logged in under this username? Unregistered users can create books but not save them, so if you were editing from an IP address the book will not have been saved. -Karenjc (talk) 09:04, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Special character for "comma"

How do I link directly to the heading "Adoption, name change, marriage" in the article Jack Baker (activist)?

The ASCII Table lists "2C" as the Hex equivalent of a comma, but the following link does not work:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Baker_%28activist%29#Adoption%2C_name_change%2C_marriage

What am I doing wrong?

Y6f&tP4z (talk) 07:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

It appears you want to create an external link from outside Wikipedia. Use .2C:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Baker_%28activist%29#Adoption.2C_name_change.2C_marriage

If you are linking from within Wikipedia, use the standard link markup:

Markup	Renders as
[[Jack Baker (activist)#Adoption, name change, marriage]]	Jack Baker (activist)#Adoption, name change, marriage

--  Gadget850 ^talk 08:10, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

If you click the section in the table of contents then your browser will probably display a working url. You may also be able to right-click the section and choose to copy the url. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Rockford IL, Aviation

One would think that a Woman NASA Engineer who holds a joint Female record would not only be listed under Science but also Under Aviation. I attended school when Janice Voss was growing up and my brother was in her graduating class in high school. Though she died of Breast Cancer a few years ago it would serve the community she lived in to properly document her achievements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug4612 (talk • contribs) 07:36, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Empty <ref>...</ref> tags redacted.

Janice E. Voss is in the categories Category:Female astronauts and Category:Women in engineering. --  Gadget850 ^talk 08:03, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I think you are complaining that Janice E. Voss is not listed under more than one category at List of people from Rockford, Illinois. The list's function is to provide a set of links to the individual articles about these notable people; duplicating the same link elsewhere in the list would be both redundant and confusing. I will alter her list entry to read "astronaut and engineer", though, to better reflect her expertise and achievements. -Karenjc (talk) 09:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

German WP user Hedonil

Is there anyone who speaks German or is active in the German WP. I have been trying to communicate with the German WP user Hedonil, but he is not responsive. He could just be ignoring me for some reason, but I don't see why he would. He seems to be quite active and quite involved in the issue I am interested in (The Wikiview stat tool, which seems to be an improvement on the older stats.grok.se/). I am hoping to communicate with him.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Tony, try to contact him on his German talk page, he speaks English. Best, Sam Sailor ^Sing 20:07, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I can't seem to get a reply from him there in English.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:02, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Searching for regular expressions

How can I search for Wikipedia for articles that contain certain regular expressions? For example, there are often questions concerning citations about whether certain kinds of citation are so rare there is no need to support them in a template, or write a rule about them in a guideline. If it were possible to search for regular expressions, and find articles that match, that would be helpful.

Google with the site specified as en.wikipedia.org isn't satisfactory. First, it doesn't do regular expressions. Second, even if the exact character string is known, Google will return pages from spaces other than article space, and pages that do not contain the exact character string, but rather, stuff Google considers close. Jc3s5h (talk) 16:39, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Grep or Grep may work. -- Jreferee (talk) 17:05, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Those pages say they search article titles. I'm interested in searching the content of the articles. Jc3s5h (talk) 17:11, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

The only way I know to do this is to download a database dump and then use the AWB database scanner to search the text of all articles. That's a big download, though. I can run scans for you, but my latest download is two months out of date. If you watchlist User:John of Reading/Latest download you'll be notified when I have the February database dump. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:27, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, that looks like the sort of thing I'm interested in. Jc3s5h (talk) 19:33, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Submitting a translation about an article

Hi,

I was recently approached by a con artist who wanted me to translate an article. It was only towards the end of my work that I realized that this was an exerpt from a Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism. He sent me a forged money order that was three times the amount I had invoiced him, and he wanted me to send him the balance via Western Union. I didn't, of course, but wasted one week of work, and I would like to offer this to Wikipedia. In the process, I corrected several factual errors that were in the source document (the errors are indicated in the French version). The translation is fragmentary, but I thought you might find it useful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.21.31 (talk) 16:55, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't think the Wikimedia Foundation would want the balance you were able to obtain from the forged money order that you received from the con artist terrorism expert. -- Jreferee (talk) 20:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it's the translation that's being offered. Is this correct? Samwalton9 (talk) 20:41, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

I am unable to create

. Please help me.