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Since when is Arena Football a major sport? Wahkeenah 10:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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- For awhile now. Fifty7 23:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Believe it or not, people in America enjoy leagues other than the NFL, the NBA, and MLB. Despite what your opinion may be, Selig claimed that it was the state's first sports title. Considering the relative success of the Arena Football League and the popular status of the Rattlers franchise in Arizona, the statement was wrong, and therefore, so is the sentence you continue to edit in. Fifty7 23:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arena football is not a major sport. However, in the interest of avoiding a dispute, I have simply deleted this bit of trivia because, if you consider arena football a major sport, then it's false; and even if it's true, who cares? Wahkeenah 01:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who are you to delete trivia because "nobody cares"? In that case, we should delete half the site because it's about stuff that nobody would really care about. --TopGear 16:50, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • So, what wording do you suggest instead? "First major sports championship unless you count Arena Football"??? Is it really worth getting into edit jihads about whether this is Arizona's first major league pro championship or not? Wahkeenah 16:57, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

yes, it is worth it. having lived here all my life, i can say that the two arena football titles simply were not held on par with a major sports championship, or even a major college championship. the 1997 university of arizona wildcats basketball title was arguably the pinnacle of arizona sports until the 2001 world series, with the 1976 and 1993 suns teams also in contention. Quietmind 05:18, 29 October 2006 (UTC)Quietmind[reply]

deletion of quotes

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I think it's clear that there are too many quotations in the article, so I'm going to start deleting the ones that don't get hits on google. It's a crude method, but I can't think of anything better. --Kangaru99 16:26, 7 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yankee Bias

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I suggest that the following text be revised to make it NPOV: (from the Game 7 section)

"Rivera appeared to regain control when he fielded Jay Bell's bunt and threw out pinch-runner David Dellucci at third base, however third baseman Scott Brosius held the ball instead of throwing to first for the double play (which would have made two outs in the inning with a runner at second). Midre Cummings was sent in to pinch-run for Damien Miller. With Cummings at second and Bell at first, the next batter, Tony Womack, drove a double down the right-field line that evened the score. Bell went to third and the Yankees pulled the infield in (only necessary because of Brosius' missed double-play opportunity). After Rivera hit Craig Counsell with a 1-1 pitch, the bases were loaded.

The winning run would be batted in with a gentle tap over the heads of the infield. Luis Gonzalez blooped a soft single over Derek Jeter on an 0-1 pitch that plated Jay Bell with the winning run."

Sounds like a Yankees fan wrote that section. Sounds like that Yankees fan wants to convince readers that Scott Brosius lost the game for his team, instead of Mariano Rivera the pitcher who gave up the winning runs. Sounds like that Yankees fan doesn't accept that a "bloop" hit beat their favorite team. Calling it a "gentle tap" seems beyond foolish. Someone please NPOV the bias out of this entry. 97.84.203.211 01:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Was this an upset?

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Hey you know, this Diamondback defeat against the Yankees in the 2001 World Series could be considered as an upset. I mean, the mighty Yankees were a veteran team with all-star players like Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada, Paul O'Neill, Scott Brosius, Mariano Rivera, Andy Pettitte, Roger Clemens, and many more. Also, they dominated baseball the previous five years, having won 4 out of 5 world championships in 1996, 1998, 1999, and 2000. Meanwhile, the Diamondbacks were an upstart team also filled with all-stars like Luis Gonzalez, Jay Bell, Miguel Batista, Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Craig Counsell, and many more. The Diamondback franchise started in 1998, just three years earlier. The Yankee franchise started in 1903, nearly a century earlier. So I think the Yankees had a slight advantage over the D'Backs in terms of franchise history. In addition, the Yankees had a better regular season record (95-65) than the Diamondbacks (92-70). Maybe some people thought that the Diamondbacks, a young inexperienced team, had no chance against the Yankees, a veteran dynasty. I think the Yankees were considered the favorite in this series. Do you? Bigbrainkt (talk) 06:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is an upset. A major one. I remember it perfectly, at the moment that they were 1-1, one of the announcers had said he had gotten word that back home in Ney York, the Yankees already had the championship cake baked for them, next thing you know AZ scores 2 runs out of nowhere and the Yankees dream was shut down. I wonder if they still ate the cake, or if they tossed it.--Mackdanny (talk) 00:38, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Trivial material

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Hi all,

The following section seems extremely trivial, or has material that isn't really that necessary for this particular article.

  • Randy Johnson became the first pitcher since Orel Hershiser in 1988 to be the winning pitcher of the clinching games in the LCS and World Series.
  • The Yankees became the first team to appear in four straight World Series since the 1961-64 Yankees.
  • The Diamondbacks win silenced the "Ex-Cubs Factor" jinx, as the D-backs not only defied the jinx to win the Series, but two of the three (Grace and Gonzalez) actively participated in the Series-winning rally.
  • The Diamondbacks win also ended the tongue-in-cheek "Curse Of The Balboni." In 1985, Kansas City Royals player Steve Balboni set a team record with 36 home runs, and the Royals went on to win their first World Series. Since that time, no team who had employed a 36+ home run player had won the World Series. The Diamondbacks' Luis Gonzalez, with his 57 regular-season home runs, helped the team break the "curse."
  • Diamondbacks manager Bob Brenly had announced the 2000 World Series the previous year with Joe Buck and Tim McCarver.
  • This was the first World Series ever played in the state of Arizona. The Arizona Diamondbacks made their first Major League debut in 1998.
  • The Yankees have lost six World Series in seven games: in 1926 vs. the St. Louis Cardinals, in 1955 vs. the Brooklyn Dodgers, in 1957 vs. the Milwaukee Braves, in 1960 vs. the Pittsburgh Pirates, in 1964 vs. the Cardinals, and in 2001 vs. the Arizona Diamondbacks. In seventh games of the World Series, the Yankees are 5–6.
  • This was the third consecutive World Series game seven to end on a hit with the bases loaded in the bottom of the final inning (Florida Marlins 1997, Minnesota Twins, 1991).
  • As of 2008, this is the last World Series in which the National League had home-field advantage, as they have yet to clinch it under the current All-Star Game format.
  • As of 2007, this is the last World Series not to feature a wild card team.
  • Arizona does not observe daylight saving time. With the week delay this was the first series since 1954 to play all games locally in standard time. Game 2 was scheduled an hour later in Arizona to accommodate the nationwide broadcast.

None of this material seems to "fit" into this article very well. Therefore, I have removed it. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 07:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's a lot more to a sporting event than who won or lost it. Baseball, in particular, is replete with "firsts" and "lasts" and that kind of thing. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 07:12, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(undent) OK, fair comment. I'll merge in the following:

  • The Yankees became the first team to appear in four straight World Series since the 1961-64 Yankees.
  • This was the first World Series ever played in the state of Arizona. The Arizona Diamondbacks made their first Major League debut in 1998.
  • This was the third consecutive World Series game seven to end on a hit with the bases loaded in the bottom of the final inning (Florida Marlins 1997, Minnesota Twins, 1991).
  • As of 2008, this is the last World Series in which the National League had home-field advantage, as they have yet to clinch it under the current All-Star Game format.
  • As of 2007, this is the last World Series not to feature a wild card team.

Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 07:18, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The "Ex-Cubs Factor" is a "curse" along the lines of the "Curse of the Bambino", and deserves mention in the article. It's a well-documented spurious correlation (just as the Curse of the Bambino was). Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 07:23, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can you provide a reliable source? - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 07:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Read the article about it. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 07:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, there was no wikilink to it. Have merged. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 07:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The best trivia re this WS was the irony of it. The second most obvious juicer of 2001, outside of Barry Bonds, was Luis Gonzalez; never hit close to 50 HR's before '01 and never close again. So, the juicer wins the WS with a bloop hit over a drawn-in infield.Dcrasno (talk) 03:27, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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walk-off situation

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I am currently seeing:

"It ended on a Game 7 walk-off hit in the form of a bases-loaded blooper single off the bat of Luis Gonzalez. This was the third World Series to end in this way, including 1997 and 1991."

Will someone out there please reconsider this? 1960, with Bill Mazeroski's famous home run winning that WS for the Pirates, also ended with a walk-off hit in game 7. That 1960 game was in the 9th inning, so if 1991, 1997, and 2001 are extra-inning walk-off-hit endings, you need to specify extra innings. (I know 1991 was extra innings, because that 7th game went into 10th after Lonnie Smith baserunning blunder in 8th eventually led to that game remaining scoreless then.)

Baseball assessment comment

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Article needs refs to be considered for B-class. - Mattingly23 12:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Randy Johnson photo in Yankees uniform?

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Very misleading to have Randy Johnson shown in a Yankees uniform, given that he played for the Diamondbacks during this series. Donutcity (talk)

Arizona Wranglers

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The Arizona Wranglers of the USFL were the first team from Arizona to win a Championship in 1984 68.189.116.74 (talk) 07:50, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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