Talk:Alcyoneus (galaxy)

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Comparison image(?)

I feel like we should not be comparing this to the Milky Way. Comparing the radio lobes (basically galactic farts) against the stellar diameter is just straight up misleading.

If I will make a comparison of Alcyoneus, it would be for other radio galaxies. If one should compare the Milky Way to others, they must compare them at the save wavelength and criteria. SkyFlubbler (talk) 18:16, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That would fall under original research. While not appropriate for Wikipedia. I would certainly be interested in your thoughts on this. Fxmastermind (talk) 10:30, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How does this fall under WP:OR? It does not suggest unverified information.

The point here is consistency. Comparing radio lobes to stellar diameters (which is visible light or near IR) is comparing apples to oranges. They should be of the same wavelength, and the picture on the article uploaded by User:RileyXeon is a bad comparison. By the way, pinging her here. SkyFlubbler (talk) 17:38, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It has been a few months, and I have decided to change the caption in order to clarify the size comparison to be of the jets of Alcyoneus and the Milky Way, and not the galaxy itself.

Consider the audience, the reader

Starting off with complex scientific explainings is not how an encyclopedia works. While it's effort to write out a simple yet educational opening line, it is possible. Fxmastermind (talk) 06:02, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a very complex terminology. It can be easily accessible with the link being provided. SkyFlubbler (talk) 13:49, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Consider matching the style of other articles about the same things, for example

The Andromeda Galaxy (IPA: /ænˈdrɒmɪdə/), also known as Messier 31, M31, or NGC 224 and originally the Andromeda Nebula, is a barred spiral galaxy with diameter of about 46.56 kiloparsecs (152,000 light-years) approximately 2.5 million light-years (770 kiloparsecs) from Earth and the nearest large galaxy to the Milky Way. The galaxy's name stems from the area of Earth's sky in which it appears, the constellation of Andromeda, which itself is named after the princess who was the wife of Perseus in Greek mythology.

Fxmastermind (talk) 14:35, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

compare with below

below

NGC 6872, also known as the Condor Galaxy, is a large barred spiral galaxy of type SB(s)b pec in the constellation Pavo. It is 212 million light-years (65 Mpc) from Earth and is approximately five billion years old. NGC 6872 is interacting with the lenticular galaxy IC 4970, which is less than one twelfth as large. The galaxy has two elongated arms with a stellar diameter of over 522,000 light-years (160,000 pc), and a D_25.5 isophotal diameter of over 717,000 light-years (220,000 pc), making it the largest known spiral galaxy. It was discovered on 27 June 1835 by English astronomer John Herschel.

Fxmastermind (talk) 14:38, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't spam the page. Place a single section and make a coherent response.

Anyway, the examples you've given are for notable galaxies. One is for Andromeda and the other is an NGC entry which is notable for its size.

Alcyoneus is different. It is a radio galaxy. You should compare with other articles of radio galaxies. Take 3C 236, Whirlpool Galaxy and NGC 4151 as an example, which follows the same form. SkyFlubbler (talk) 16:13, 13 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]