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He also claims to have trained the special forces that mopped up the Jonestown experiment.[1] 142.177.170.22 00:54, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

"during 1992, Gritz attracted national attention as the mediator during the government standoff with Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge, Idaho."

I remember a virtual media blackout of Gritz during the 1992 Presidental race. can anyone cite any major media sources that mentioned his name in 1992? 20.137.18.50

"Shambolic" POW rescue missions

Removed the 'shambolic' bit, given that 'shambolic' is not a word. -- Captain Spock

Perhaps trying a dictionary would be of use; [[2]] for one, cherrypicked from Houghton Mifflin. I'll be reverting that. Ravenswing 06:04, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I replaced "shambolic" with "disorderly" since shambolic is regional slang and disorderly is a more common word. - DNewhall

Shambolic is back in for some reason. What is the interest in using this particular word here? It seems that an equally accurate and more agreeable word could be found. m-w.com lists it as "chiefly British", and most other dictionaries that I've consulted describe it as "chifly British slang". It doesn't seem to be a very common word, and while it may technically be acceptable to use here, perhaps a more widely known word would help to convey some kind of meaning to more readers. Would "disorganized" or "disorderly" not be acceptable for some reason? Amoore 22:25, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Racism

I don't believe Bo Gritz is racist as the article alleges. Sometime back I visited his website and there were several pictures of a dark skined girl dancing to praise music. Gritz may be a victim of guilt by association. I wouldn't have anything to do with him myself, not because of his views on race, but because of his views on government. Web_Reader

There is nowhere in the article that claims he is a racist. The article does point out -and it is correct about this- that a couple of groups which claim to be anti-racist criticized him for his associations, particularly with Eustace Mullins. But nowhere does the article say Gritz himself is a racist. However if you believe the wording is still unfair to Gritz, anyone can edit this article so feel free to go ahead and edit it. 70.108.97.172 01:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to take you up on that. There is no indication in this article or the one on Mullins that the sentence is anything other than guilt by association, there is a "citation needed" that has apparently been hanging on that sentence for years. The sentence is also so unclear that until I read the Mullins article I thought it was implying that Mullins was a Jew and Gritz had made some antisemitic comment about him. Actually, as far has been shown so far, Mullins is antisemitic, and Gritz and Mullins have nothing in common aside from having spoken at some of the same events.Enon (talk) 06:44, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have read that he has adopted children of three different races. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.112.57 (talk) 22:04, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how you would characterize the political views of someone who would support the run of david duke in 1988 and then run on the same ticket in 1992, but racist would be one aspect of it. the party itself seems more closely associated with the klu klux klan and christian identity movements which of course have fairly straight forward platforms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.103.16.246 (talk) 01:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems unclear. Another source for information about Gritz, would be the BBC documentary "Louis Therouxs Weird Weekends : Survivalists". In that documentary, Theroux visits Almost Heaven, and talks with others in the area. I believe during that, Richard Butler of Aryan Nations says that Gritz is a multiculturalist, and that he has a non-white wife. My personal thought is that Gritz had contact with these groups because they shared his some of his conspiratorial beliefs, at least in the general theme, although the alleged perpertrators of this conspiracy vary between groups, Gritz seems more to favour the "commies and the US gov" ideas, rather than the "Jews and the US gov" ideas you tend to get from racist conspiracists. Gdfgrsegyjhcc (talk) 18:54, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kidnapping?

Wasn't Bo Gritz accused of kidnapping Linda Wiegand's children and tried for that? I think he was acquitted by the US 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals, but even so, I think that episode deserves mention under the Controversial Activities section of this page.Peter 12:31, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

omissions...

I see no reference in the article to his suicide attempt and ironically bad aim...

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nor do I see any mention of him as david duke's running mate on the 1988 populist party ticket. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.103.16.246 (talk) 00:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Iran Rescue?

Wasn't Gritz involved with Ross Perot's effort to get EDS employees out of Iran in 1979? The page on Perot credits "Bull" Simons with that effort, but I thought Gritz was in on it also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.253.165.30 (talk) 19:27, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Self Promotion & False Claims

The "most highly decorated" description has been removed because it is false. Many of the other claims of Gritz are clearly exagerated or false. Robert L. Howard is probably the most decorated Special Forces officer, and he is real. Dr. B. R. Lang (talk) 02:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"America First ticket"?

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James G "Bo" Gritz does NOT live in Nebraska

The cite you list says nothing about Nebraska other than the masters degree he once earned there.

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Structure of article

This article is a mess. At the moment it is a series of unrelated section detailing various things that he has done. The lede, especially needs to determine what he is notable for and start with that, then detail other activities in descreasing order of notability. Ashmoo (talk) 10:47, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AmPol Cleanup

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