Talk:Districts of Turkey

Comments

I finally finished the district maps - thank you for your patience! Rarelibra 17:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your contributions! Baristarim 07:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

belde

Is it appropriate to add ''[[tr:belde]]'' to Administrative division, and the equiv on tr:belde? John Vandenberg 05:01, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Bucak

From what I understand, the administrative hierarchy in Turkey is 1) province (İl), 2) district (İlçe), 3a) municipality (Belediye) and 3b) village (Köy). However, the villages are grouped in something called Bucak, which is some kind of sub-district. How is a bucak administrated? From a municipality, or a village within the bucak? Is a bucak at the same level as a belediye?--Pjred (talk) 16:53, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Greater city

I added a paragraph explaining the disprepancy in the population figures of the provinces with greater city. If you add up all district populations the sum is higher than the population of the province. The problem is that the capital city population is counted twice. So the capital city population should be disregarded in addition. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:49, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Rewrite

Is there a way using some kind of vertical chart or a map to represent the different subdivisions of a non-metropolitan district? The article is a little cluttered, so there must be a better way to do this to clarify both the different types of districts, and then all of the different subdivisions of these districts. There needs to be a more concise way to represent this. Perhaps a study of the articles on subdivisions of other nations might help in reconfiguring this page to make it more clear? Simply jamming in paragraph after paragraph actually confuses things. --Criticalthinker (talk) 14:04, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Just a heads-up that I plan on doing the rewrite soon. Things to be done will include reduncing redundant sentences, irrelevant facts (such as some belde being larger than the district center belde they depend on). clarifying administrative division terms, and making clear distinction between the roles of districts in provinces and districts in metropolitan municipalities. Consequently, the opening section of the article will be greatly pared down to make it more clear and concise. Local governments such as Belde/belediye and their different kinds (town belde and ilçe merkezi) will also be given special treatment in the article, but before I do that, I want to know what's the difference between the terms "belde" and "belediye" and which term should be used primarily in the article when refereing to these local governments associated with urbans areas/cities? --Criticalthinker (talk) 15:00, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I've talked with someone here about this, recently, but I wanted some validation so I can feel comfortable with the rewrite. Just so I'm sure, a "district municipality" in a province is simply another name for a "ilçe merkezi/district center/administrative center," right? I understand what a district municipality is in the second municipal tier of a metropolitan municipality in which case all territory and municipal councils within a districts are merged into the district center and thus the entire district essentially becomes a district municipality. But, I just want to make sure what that term means in the non-metropolitan provinces. Also, I understand that one district center/district municipality in a province serves doubly as a provincial municipality. --Criticalthinker (talk) 17:53, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Metropolitan Municiaplities

This article is a bit outdated, isn't it? With the 2013 constitutional redefinition of of metropolitan municipalities to now be coextensive with the provinces they were once included in, there needs to be changes to this page, correct? I just want to make sure before I rewrite this. Currently, for former metropolitan municipalities that had not yet taken in all of the districts in their province (all but two, I believe), you still have central districts bolded. In the new definition of metropolitan municipalities, since every district of a province is now included in these municipalities, there are no more designated central districts in these provinces. Also to that point, perhaps we should also make the distinction between provinces and metropolitan municipalities when naming them on the page to make things more clear. It's probably not enough to simply unbold the central districts and un-indent the number of districts comprising the pre-merged metropolitan muncipalities/provinces. --Criticalthinker (talk) 13:07, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

957 or 919

I've read sources that say there are 919 sub-districts and others that say 957. The Turkish Wikipedia, which I don't understand, says:

Türkiye'de 1999 yılında Düzce'nin il olması ile beraber 81 il ve bunlara bağlı toplam 919[2] ilçe bulunmaktaydı. 2013'den sonra bu sayı 957'ye çıkmıştır. Bulundukları yere göre;

A Google Translate of the above suggests the number increased from 919 to 957 in 2013, but when you open the source referenced you see the number 919 on the page, but not 957. Can someone who understands Turkish (Nedim_Ardoğa?) find out just how many bucak (sorry, I don't know the plural!) there are? Timtranslates (talk) 14:52, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

It's my understandig that sub-districts (bucaklar) were done away with. All that's left below the district level are municipalities (in those provinces remaining which aren't metropolitan municipalities), which are elected local governments as opposed to administrative divisions. So, yeah, seems to me that districts are now the lowest level of central government administration. Not sure when this happened, but they were eliminated. --Criticalthinker (talk) 16:24, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Alphabetical order

It occurred to me I ought to make it clear here, as well as in the edit summaries: When I recently alphabetised the list, because the names are Turkish, I used the Turkish alphabet. This leads to results which look wrong if one disregards the diacriticals, e.g. Simav preceding Şaphane and Cumayeri coming before Çilimli. Before rearranging the list, please make sure you take into account the non-English alphabet. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 04:23, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Poor translation?

I've read this a few times, and still don't know exactly what it means, nor does there seem to be any explanation for why the provices/metropolitan cities are listed like this.

In 16 provinces with greater municipality the total population of the province is not equal to the summation of all district populations. In greater municipalities some (in case of İstanbul and Kocaeli all) districts are within the capital city. Those intracity districts are shown as " (central district) " . The population in central districts is also shown in the boldface capital city. In greater municipalities, the actual population of the province is the sum of all district populations except the boldface capital city

Anyone want to try and explain what this means so this section could be rewritten for clarity? Why wouldn't the population of a "greater municipality" be the sum of all its constituent districts? A capital district may be special in that it's the administrative center, but it's not administatively separate from the province/metropolitan city. --Criticalthinker (talk) 07:24, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Also:

However, many urban provinces, designated as greater municipalities, have a center consisting of multiple districts, such as the provincial capital of Ankara province, The City of Ankara, comprising nine separate districts.

According to who? Is this an official designation? --Criticalthinker (talk) 03:39, 25 April 2022 (UTC)